@freeryu: Nope, Nier is not a playstation exclusive, neither is Nioh. Nioh had a timed exclusivity but they were on pc pretty quick. I even believe they are or are headed to xbox. Xbox games comes to pc on day one and are not exclusive to xbox, and apart from the Forza and Gears you don't even need to buy it from MS. In fact most first party MS games on pc can be bought elsewhere. Yet they are touted by alot of people as xbox exclusives, hence the quotations.
@freeryu: Yep the windowsstore version of QB is, not the steam version. Most third party xbox "exclusives" on any client where pc gamers actually buys games are not published by MS even though they are on their own platform. Didn't remember that Ryse had 2 player option. I played it by myself. Seemed to me you were asking if they were crossplay or not, hence I answered.
@freeryu: Ryse on steam is not published by MS on PC, and isn't that a singleplayer game? Most pc versions of xbox "exclusives" that are made by third party devs like f ex Ryse, Quantum Break, all the Dead Rising games etc are not published by MS on the big clients.
There is only one Steam version of Halo Wars and it's the Definitive edition. And it only supports other players using the same .EXE version of the game and not the .UWP version of the windows store. So it's only crossplay with xbox gamers if you buy it on the windowsstore.
Most microsoft published games on steam are pc exclusives, like the age games and flight simulator games.
I think KI is the only steam version of a xbox game that does support crossplay with xbox gamers. All the others are like I said pc only, singleplayer or limited to multiplayer with pc gamers only.
@aross2004: LOL right?! I'm fine with evisceration, chopping of heads murdering countless people but goddamn two consenting women kissing is going to far!!! I'm offended due to my religion that specifically states that two people of the same gender kissing is wrong but murder is totally fi... oh wait... why does it smell like hypocrisy in here?
Haven't played this game but from what I can tell it's basically a game based on the series Humans (wich in itself is based on the Swedish series "Real Humans") but with more ties to american slave history. If you like this setting and narrative I recommend watching both the British version of Humans and the Swedish version. Very good series.
@Thanatos2k: Windows licence from gamers only specifically is miniscule. The absolute vast majority of pc using windows are not used at all for gaming. So the income for GAMING from windows licenses from people who would not otherwise get a pc for any other reason is no way near what they get from xbox. That is someone getting a pc JUST to game and use it for nothing else. Otherwise they don't count, they get that money anyway even if you game on xbox and still have a pc for other uses, or don't game at all but buy a pc.
So still your idea is just terrible. They already get that money + the xbox money yet you suggest they drop xbox. Instead of two revenue sources they should go one that isn't really increasing, it's already there.
Dropping xbox does not mean there will be more people getting a pc. Most xbox owners most likely already have a pc even if they don't game on it, and they could just aswell just buy a playstation or nintendo. And the licence is all they get as opposed to all the other income from gamers and devs/publishers they get on xbox.
Dropping xbox as long as it's profitable and just sitting idly hoping more people will buy a pc beacause of it, and shop at the worst game store ever is just insane.
@Thanatos2k: We are talking gaming here. Not office and windows licences wich is what built them their fortune. They already have revenue from that, what we discuss here is to capitalise on gaming specifically. For them to give up xbox on console, wich compared to sony is not doing as well but atleast it is profitable, and going pc, they need to make more on pc alone than they get from pc and xbox now. The move to give up xbox must mean they generate more profit, otherwise it's a shit*y businesspractise and illegal as well as they are obligated to do everything in their power and make smart decisions to generate money for the shareholders.
Every game on xbox regardless if it's their own game or third party nets them money, same with live subscriptions. There are also licence fees devs or publishers pay MS to even be able to release their game on the system. That is not the case on pc, only their own games and games bought on windows store nets them money. Gaming on windows does not generate money for them in itself. And there is no live subscription on pc. And no licensing fees to release the game on pc as it is an open platform. That's why new console games cost 60$ and pc games 40$.
I don't know if you game on pc or not, but if you do I bet WS is the last place you'd ever get a game for pc. If I buy Far Cry 5 on Uplay or Steam, MS get's nothing from it, if a xbox gamer buys it for the console they get a cut.
So yes, their monopoly when it comes to gaming on pc is useless currently.
@Thanatos2k: Yes but the suggestion is to drop xbox and capitalise on pc gamers. How are they going to do that? Windows comes with 99% of pc's anyway regardless if you game or not. So appart from that license pc gamers have no requirement to shell cash at MS for gaming. The "monopoly" is utterly useless currently for MS. And pc gamers are in fact avoiding WS and UWP as much as possible. It's a sh*t plan from a business standpoint. They all will go to Steam, Origin, GOG, Uplay etc before WS. And if they do that MS doesn't get a single dime from gaming on pc.
@Thanatos2k: You mean the kind of monopoly like winamp or winrar had back in the day? What good is it if they get no money for it?
I'm an avid pc gamer and sure I will use windows as an OS. But what do they get from me as a gamer that they wouldn't get from me as a regular pc user? If I'd game on consoles only I'd still need a pc so on their part they get equally as much from a gamer as from a non gamer. And that is one windows license.
The only way they can capitalise on gamers on pc are from sales on windows store, and when it comes to gaming client and/or store they do not have monopoly and they are smaller than any of the other established clients. I'd go as far as to say they are the absolute last resort for a pc gamer to purchase any game they can get elsewhere.
So their "monopoly on pc for gaming" is worth jack sh*t. They get way more from xbox, than they get from gaming on pc.
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