How soon until they take PSN down alltogether though? I assume their new service will be like XBOX live and will charge a fee to play. I don't see them keeping the PSN service up for more than 12 months tops. Unlike PC, all of your online games will become single player games overnight!! I guess there may be a few with dedicated servers, but I am not sure if you would still need PSN to log in. The way I understand it, you have to go through PSN to even use netflix, untlike my Wii. And what happens to all of those who purchased movies through PSN?

I hope you don't think I am SONY bashing, because I believe they will win this next generation, and win big. I think they made mistakes with the PS3 and have learned from those mistakes.

The meds do help some, but not enough. I have sold a huge portion of my possessions because I cannot handle the clutter. Really sucks.

You are so right. I shouldn't be stressing about this. time to Ebay the PS3 and games. Too bad, since I only had it for less than 3 months. Too bad for Sony as well, as I usually purchase alot of games (purchased 15 games in the 3 months I have had it).

I just recently purchased my PS3 (holiday bundle for $200=great deal) and I quickly picked up several games and a couple of extra controllers on the cheap. I am now regretting my purchase due to not being able to play PS3 games on PS4. I know everyone will be all over the, "just keep your ps3...blah, blah, blah, but I have no space for another game system. I have O.C.D really bad (medically diagnosed) and I cannot handle multiple game systems and especially cords everywhere. I was planning to buy The Last of Us, Battlefield 3 or 4, and several other games, but have now cancelled all of my preorders and will not be buying any more games for it. I was even considering some movies on PSN, but apparently those will not work on PS4 either. I do understand they needed to drop the B/C due to the X86 architecture of the new system, but it sucks for many of us with game collections.

Since PSN will not be a part of PS4, how long until they pull the plug on it alltogether? How long will the Last of US online last? $60 for a 12 hour game and a few months of online is not worth it IMHO. Once PSN goes, there goes my Bad Company, Netflix, and most every other game I have (since there is no split screen on most games). Seriously considering selling the whole lot and being done with it. Extremely frustrated.

Exsctly. Loved that SUNS team. Had a Barkley and Marleje jersey that year. I was one of the few who could not stand MJ. Loved the Bulls (pippen, rodman, harper, kukoc, even Longley), but I could not stand that arrogant jerk.

I just played the demo at Best Buy, and did not like it at all. Is there still a way to increase the speed? They seem so slow and clunky. Also had a hard time passing the ball. They kept doing fake passes. And shooting, OMG. could not figure out how to shoot with the sticks. I even thought the graphics were better in 2k11.

Found the answer to my first question. You CANNOT add Barkley to any other team for exhibition or season mode. He is only playable for the dream team game. Apparently, the dream teams do not show up under rosters, so there is no way to trade him or add him. Most of the other players on the dream teams have classic teams that they are on as well, so you CAN trade them around. This is a 100% deal breaker for me. Between that and the crappy a$$ music, I will be cancelling my preorder. So glad I did not go pick it up already.

I am still happy with my 2k11 and as good as it may be, I have no interest in using the right stick to do everything. I like my face buttons for shooting thank you. Playing with Barkley and Iverson together through a season was the only reason I was going to upgrade to this year's edition. I don't play online anyway, and if I did, I wouldn't play this game. 2K got everyone hooked on 2k11, then pulled the servers EA style.

Sorry 2K, ditch the crap music, patch the freezes, quit forcing online down our throats for everything, and let us use our Barkley!!!

thanks for your response. My entertainment center has a shelf under the tv with about 8" of clearance to the top and around 8" on either side. the back is closed in, however. Would I have overheating issues with this new model do you think?

I was wondering if I can take members of the dream team and place them on one of the other teams to play in season or exhibition games. Or is the only way to play as Sir Charles is to play the 92 dream team against the 2012 dream team?

Also read where everything is connected online. What happens if you do not have internet? Will the game freeze or not save at all?

Thanks in advance.

Does anyone else have experience with the new model? They are not yet in stores in my town, but I know some have them already.