[QUOTE="GreySeal9"] he is one of the OT's resident manchildrenAce6301
Actually that's kind of interesting. A lot of the guys who try to act manly and talk about "mens rights" and stuff are pretty similar to children. So maybe this woman is right, in an odd way. Yeah, MRAs come off as massive manchildren more often than not.
Don't agree with everything they say, but I think it's an interesting discussion nonetheless. Â One thing I definitely disagree on is that it's specific to males. Â This is just anecdotal, but I can point to dozens of examples of woman-children that I know in real life. Â I think this is less about gender and more about the fact that we're living in a society that glorifies the consumption of media and consumer goods, so why wouldn't you expect people to spend tons of money on media and overpriced merchandise? Â It's only being pushed down our throats 24/7.
I also dislike the equivalence drawn between passivity and "man-childishness." Â Just because some men aren't extroverts doesn't mean they sit around all day playing video games, smoking weed, drinking, and doing nothing with their lives. Â I interpret this as a problem of changing gender roles. Â We've moved beyond the days of chivalry and expectations that men always have to make the first move, and now women are having to deal with some of the uncertainty that goes along with that. Â I think more women need to start getting used to the idea that if they like a guy they should ask him out, welcome to the world of equality. Â
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Women asking out guys. If only. Hey, it happens. Some girls do actually decide to take action rather than just give off ambiguous signs of interest. Some realize that we're dumb and absolutely will not pick up on their indirect hints lol.
No healthcare is free. You pay your premiums every year but instead of seeing it come out of your banking account it is taken out of your paycheck before you see it. Either way you still pay premiums every year for health insurance, just through taxes rather then self payment or employers. Also gov'ts have to be funded. If you don't pass a bill saying where the money is going to go then that money stays put and doesn't get sent anywhere. Hence why the gov't is shut down. The gov't didn't shut down last year. The house and senate came to a last minute deal, that didn't happen this year. ferrari2001
If it happened in the US, I would think of it as the "being a decent human being tax". Your tax dollars go to helping people who need it rather than your health insurance dollars lining the pockets of insurance companies who can deny service to anyone for any reason. What goes around comes around.
I think homeschooling is generally a bad idea, not because they might not receive a quality academic education, but because they don't get properly... socialized I guess? I saw a lot of homeschooled kids at community college, and many weren't successful. They just didn't have social skills.
So by empowering women, we've disempowered men, stunting their growth to adulthood? I don't agree. Just because more and more women are out there making a life for themselves doesn't mean men have less opportunity for success. Men can still be men while man-children choose to remain man-children.
The article suggests that it's fear of competition and/or rejection that pushes men to their glass box where they don't need to grow up. I think that's partially why there's such animosity towards feminism these days (on the internet especially). It's because men have always been the primary workforce and the highest educated, and it creates a cognitive dissonance for men who aren't successful or (i.e. the man-child) when feminists say that men have an inherent advantage because of their gender. Rather than thinking that MAYBE there's a shred of truth to that statement, they dismiss it outright because they haven't personally benefited from being male.
I dunno, I'm no sociologist, just a guy who reads a lot of asinine things from man-children on the internet and tries not to get distressed by it.
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