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#1 canadianloonie
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Half way through the season, I predicted that if the Saints were to lose at least once in the regular season, they will go all the way and win the Super Bowl.

So, I'm gonna stick with them. Saints over the Colts 101-99. :)

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#2 canadianloonie
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I agree. Other than the sword fighting, I find Wii Sports Resort/MotionPlus really underwhelming.

I was expecting a vast improvement with Table Tennis using the MotionPlus, but honestly I find the differences to the original Wii Tennis hardly noticeable. No matter how I angle or twist the wiimote, how I swing early or late, most of my returns will still end up in the middle of the table...just like Wii Tennis.

Plus, a lot of the mini games (Basketball, Canoeing, Cycling, etc) don't really need the MotionPlus for it to work.

So disappointed. I felt so jipped even though I got it as a Christmas gift.

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#3 canadianloonie
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Wow! It didn't see this coming. But based on Gamespot's GOTY video, it seems like it really deserves it. So, congrats to Demon Souls!

I still won't play it though. The game is too hard for my taste. I definitely won't enjoy it.

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looks like a game that jaysonguy would love.

maybe we should give this to him for Christmas. :P

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#5 canadianloonie
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I dunno...we were kids back then.

But like I said, you can still return games back then. So even though we picked a really bad game, we can still laugh at it, run back to Toys R Us, return it, and arbitrarily pick our next game. I swear...we are the reason why you cannot return opened games anymore. :oops:

Now, we have to read reviews just so we don't waste our money. It's no fun.

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The biggest thing that cracks me up is back in the old days..... you had basically 2 choices when it came to thinking about puchasing a game or not. The game's boxart, and Nintendo Power. Man...... those days were so awesome!

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LOL! Those were the good old days! Boy, I bought a lot of crappy games doing that...

"Let's get Deadly Towers! Take a look at the back, it looks a lot like Zelda!"

Good thing you can still return opened games back then. :)

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1. More support for third party developers. They're struggling and wavering. You gotta help them out.

- Give third party developers incentives **coughmoneymoneymoneycough** to develop AAA Wii Exclusive games.

- More co-developed games (like Metroid Other M) with top third party developers.

2. More games that use the Balance Board and Motion Plus. You made us buy them. Please support them.

3. More casual games. You don't have any casual game announced for 2010. If you lose the casual market, Wii is just like the Gamecube.

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#8 canadianloonie
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No, I'm not saying that making a full on Dead Space game would automatically make a AAA title, but it would have been better than a rail shooter because Visceral is a great developer and they could have capture what made Dead Space so great. And even more important, it would have certainly made the game more marketable, which in the end is the bottom line. But in that case, everybody would have won. And the whole casaul thing is complete nonsense, there are alot of games you can play with friends, especially on the Wii that are easier transfer from Rock Band. Extraction is not a party game, no matter what way you try to sale it like it was suppose to be some kind of game that can appeal to anyone, its not going to fly, because it wasn't. It was a game for "teh hardcorezzzzz!!" EA was really trying to market it to people who already played the original Dead Space. And you don't have to convine me a rail shooter is fun, I know they are. I enjoy HoTD, but guess what Dead Space is not a rail shooter series and EA shouldn't have tried to force it into one. Especially since they were trying to market it to the original Dead Space audience.

Fair Enough. I see your point. I just don't think the a third person Dead Space on the Wii will be any better. It'll be a gimped version.

And lol people would have bought Tri if it was on rails, are you kidding, because now your just grasping at straws. That would be like Nintendo putting Mario Galaxy 2 on rails, people would be more likely burn the Tokyo headquarters to the ground then they would be to just except it and buy it. You don't believe me, look at the sales of Sunshine will Nintendo slightly changed the formula vs the sales of Mario 64 and Galaxy. People bought Tri because it was another high quality console Monster Hunter and people responded by buying in huge numbers. Yes games can sale to extent on name alone, but if the product isn't there all the name recognition in the world wont save it.

It was meant as a joke but with a large dose of truth to it. My point was anything Monster Hunter will sell in Japan. It has nothing to do with quality.

I find it really funny that you're praising Capcom for Monster Hunter Tri. The Monster Hunter series is the epitome of cutting corners and quick lazy cash-ins. Why did Capcom choose Wii over PS3? Because making a Monster Hunter HD would be too much work. Why not simply port the PS2 version to the Wii, call it Tri, and sell millions for doing virtually nothing?

Take a look at the PS2 and PSP versions of Monster Hunter and compare them to Tri. Can you see any differences or improvements? If you played any Monster Hunter game at all, you would know that it's a flawed game. It's NOT a high quality game. You don't get review scores in the 5-6 range for nothing. There are lots of issues that truly takes away from the gameplay. Have Capcom addressed any of the issues? Nope. They know that Monster Hunter sells, so they would just release the same thing over and over again.

So, if you are critcizing EA/Visceral for cutting corners and being lazy, then you should be doubly upset at Capcom...not praise them.

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A 3rd person shooter Dead Space is exactly what people wanted, better graphics doesn't mean a better game. Thats the reason why people say RE4(pick your version) is better than RE5. There was alot they could have done with the Wii that they couldn't do with the the other consoles, sounds coming from the remote, motion controlled weapons like a chainsaw, IR and motion based puzzles, more motion based items like the glow stick. I have Dead Space for the PS3 and I loved it, played it a bunch of times. However if they may a game like that for the Wii, I would be all over it. Those kind of mechanics, the sixaxis just cannot do. I'm sure thier are alot more people who believe that as well. Graphics doesn't make a game superior, its only one part of the experience and Dead Space like RE4 could be an experience that could be better on the Wii than its HD counterparts. Take another game, Shattered Memories, if that was on the HD consoles, the Wii version would be better, because of the way you interact with the game.

You have this idealistic notion that if Extraction was only a 3rd person shooter, then it will suddenly be a AAA, GOTY material. I would love to get a Dead Space Wii game that you've just described, but that isn't happening. Partly because of the Wii's hardware limitation and partly because third parties are no longer willing to devote the time and money in making one knowing Wii's lack of third party support.

So, what will a 3rd person shooter Dead Space be like? Take the PS3 version that you like. Take 60% of that. Add some motion and IR controls. That's a 3rd person Dead Space Wii. It won't be RE4 quality. Can it be done? Sure. Is it likely? No.

Yes Wii owners only buy 1st party games, why? I said it before in another topic, Ants vs Giants. On the other consoles, thier are alternatives to playing Halo, their are games on the console better than 1st party or at least on the level of 1st party. Its not like that on the Wii, publishers come up with half assed efforts, ants against massive GOTY quality giants by Nintendo. Whose going to win that power struggle? If a 3rd party released a game that was on the level of a Zelda, it would sale, hell a game like that RE4 which was a damn port and had already been on 2 consoles sold well. And if this was an attempt a bridge title, this was a stupid attempt. People aren't going to go from playing Wii Sports and Mario Kart to killing mutated babies in Dead Space. Read it out loud and see how little sense it makes. A bridge title is not something thats easy to play, its something with wide market appeal. Dead Space has evenhad problems appealing to the so called hardcore gamers and you think its suppose to be a bridge title because you don't have to move the character? Please.

Well obviously...Dead Space isn't targeting the casual crowd that digs Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and EA Sports Active. They're targeting the younger casual crowd that digs music rhythm games and the like. I know I'm not going to convince you, but on-rail shooters are FUN. It has a great casual appeal. Have a couple of friends over. They want to play something to play together that isn't too involved or complicated. On-rails shooters is the perfect type of game.

All EA did was try and cut corners and claim "its teh hardcore" in hopes of it selling, but all they did was make another ant. The same 3rd parties that are getting burned on the Wii are working on the other consoles, EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Sega, Capcom. The reason they struggle is because people may buy, hell people will buy Modern Warfare before they buy Demon Souls or Halo ODST. Because it is a big budget AAA title. While on the Wii people wont buy Extraction over Mario because Extraction is not a AAA title, its footnote from EA and it deserves to sell like one. When they put the effort in to compete with Nintendo titles they will reap the rewards, look at Tri, it was crushing Nintendo's titles in Japan. But they continue to not, they half ass it, make inferior product and then blame the audience for the failure they brought on themseleves. Look at you, its seems to be working.

Tri sold in Japan because it's "Monster Hunter". What is the difference between Monster Hunter Freedom 2 and Monster Hunter Freedom Unite? Nothing. It's what you would call a lazy effort. It didn't stop Japan from eating it up. If Capcom made an on-rails Monster Hunter game, it would be crushing Nintendo titles in Japan.

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#10 canadianloonie
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First of all how do you know no one wants a third person Dead Space? A third person Resident Evil sold well on Wii and people want more of that (yet we aren't getting more).umcommon

I didn't say no one wants a third person Dead Space. I said it wouldn't have made any difference sales-wise. If you look at this forum, there is a much people who say "I don't want a Me Too game." as there people who say "I don't want an on-rails game." So, the total sales figures will still be the same. The only difference is who actually bought it.

I'm sorry to say that expecting another third party AAA, GOTY quality game like RE4 is unrealistic. There are only a handful of developers that can do that. None of them are doing stuff for the Wii.

It's the chicken or egg question. Gamers blames lack of quality. Developers blames lack of support. Stalemate. :(