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#1 billyd5301
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It's pretty hard to find PS1 games in pristine condition though. It's easy enough to buy replacement jewel cases but most of the time they are missing the manual and are scratched beyond playable. If you value Final Fantasy as a $60 game complete, what would it's worth be as just 3 discs in okay condition? I'd say $10 or around that. All depends on the condition.
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It's pretty hard to find PS1 games in pristine condition though. It's easy enough to buy replacement jewel cases but most of the time they are missing the manual and are scratched beyond playable. If you value Final Fantasy as a $60 game complete, what would it's worth be as just 3 discs in okay condition? I'd say $10 or around that. All depends on the condition.
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I may have to agree with the snes doom but I'll throw a few more out there. Super Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi on the snes. Same deal. They had the first real 3d effects on a console. Some of the first anyway. And FF7. Not a fan of the game but my roommate played it a lot and the graphics ruined the n64 for me. No comparison. I love to look back at the later games in systems life and see how far they pushed it. Heck look at crysis 2 and mw2 on 360 compared to games like pdz and cod 2. Overall though I like doom snes for the winner. It didn't look as good as pc but close and 3d on a system that had no business having that kind of 3d game... Yeah.
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My typing is bad on my droid but the main drawbacks of the actual machines are a. The price. Mine were $125 a piece and I have 3 of them. You actually need 3 to avoid wasting your supplies. One to fix minor scratches. One for deep scratches and one for buffing. B. Is the supplies. You always have to keep them on hand and while they aren't very expensive they do eat into profit. And c they remove a pretty thick layer on the cd. Once that layer is removed the disc is 10x more prone to scratching again. A nice feature of this method is that you can do every disc on a case by case basis as far as how deep to go.
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I do the same for my customers. I have those machines though. One for refused resurfacing one for buffing. This does a better job in about 1/5 the time.
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Yeah they are. It takes about 10 minutes but they come out. The only game it wouldn't work on was Forza 3. I got the ring out but it still won't play. I'm thinking its just defective.i
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So after a year of owning a game store, searching for a way to fix damaged CDs and wasting a lot of money on resurfacing machines and supplies for them I think I have found the easiest, and most effective way to do it. I always like talking to people on the legacy forums so I will share my find. All you need is:

6inch bench grinder (Got mine at sears.com for $35 with in store pick up)

2 6inch cloth attachments for the grinder (Sears had them but got them at Lowes beforehand for $5 a piece)

1 wax polishing stick, white (Sears again for less than $3.00)

Windex or microfiber towel. Either method works

You can easily get the entire setup for under $80 if you do some browsing.

Scratched CD (Hard to get a good picture of, but totally damaged)

Grinder set up. Make sure there is nothing that can not get some dust on it in the area as the wax will sometimes flake off.

C-Clamps help out with the vibrating

Apply wax stick lightly. If it starts flaking into the area below it then you know you have enough on.

Lightly apply the disc to the pad, HOLD ON TO IT OR IT WILL GO FLYING, left right, left right buffing motion all the way around.

Apply some glass cleaner to the right pad and repeat the buffing process.

Hard to tell but disc is about 95-98% condition afterwards. Could possibly be 100% but it's Scarface for PS2 so I am not putting the extra effort in.

Overall I have fixed GCN Games, and taken the rings out of Xbox 360 games. I haven't really found anything unfixable yet though I am sure it can't remove extremely deep groves, and obviously nothing can fix scratching to the label. Use the wax conservatively or else you have to spend more time taking the wax off. I'll try to answer any questions, good luck!

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I can tell you from owning a game store and seeing most systems on a weekly basis that these are the ones that almost always work: NES (with pin replacement) SNES (ALWAYS) Genesis Master System N64 (ALWAYS) Wii And these are around 50% or less: Original Xbox (Drive sticks a lot) Xbox 360 (Pathetic, I only take the "S" models now because almost every old style 360 has an issue) PS2 fat and slim Atari 2600 (lots of problems, bad controller ports, bad a/v wires, etc) Pretty much everything else falls somewhere in the middle. Now I'm not going into obscurities like the Virtual Boy or Turbo Grafx, but for the most part that is what I see.
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#9 billyd5301
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None of the above. Call around to rental shops and ask if they have a resurfacing machine. I have 2 here in my store. I use one to fix scratches and the other to buff it out. Process takes about 5 minutes and you should expect to pay $3-$5 depending on how bad it is. Heck you could even mail it to me and I'd fix it or you can check Amazon for the Zdag 102. They are about $100.00 and unless you are in business it should last you the rest of your life.
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#10 billyd5301
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It's a thing that not enough people understand, items depreciate in value over time (Unless they're rare and very much sought after). When you've bought a game, the longer you own it, the more likely it's going to go down in value. Besides, the value of money itself depreciates over time anyway due to inflation and such, so old games are cheaper now. I can completely understand your rejection of old PS2 games, they're in abundance in most shops I go to, maybe have a notice or something saying certain game trade-ins are "subject to negotiation" or have a cut-off point for certain games. What In tend to see in Used game stores around where I live is a list of games the store is looking to buy off of customers for trading in, usually popular ones or games that the store doesn't have much of, it might get people who look at it to think "I have that game, and I'm pretty much done with it, maybe I should trade it in for a bit of money."ModeDude
Actually a great idea, thank you! I think I will make a hot list of newer games, and throw some Shadow of the Colossus, FF Games and that type of stuff too. There is really a sweet spot in video games that a lot of people don't realize. Take PS1. PS1 games were at one time $50. Then the PS2 game out and you literally could not GIVE PS1 games away. People would not take them. By that time the few people still playing PS1 had it modded and had every game anyways. But now, PS1 games are almost considered antiques. People want the Crash games, the FF games, the Tomb Raider games, and all of that because that's what they grew up with. A few games like Tactics Ogre, FFVII, Symphony of the Night are worth more now than they were 12 years ago. And now that PS3 is out you can shovel PS2 games into a fire and burn them all day long and no one would care one bit. Come 5 years down the road though the same thing will happen and people will be looking to buy the Jaks, Ratchet and Clank, FFX, etc.