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#1 WutTimeIsIt
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Does it need one?Espada12
doesnt matter, cuz it doesnt have one.
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#2 WutTimeIsIt
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http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cell/Cell1_v2.html

The PPE is a dual issue, dual threaded, in-order processor. Unlike many modern processors the hardware architecture is an "old ****" RISC design, i.e. the PPE has a relatively simple architecture.

So, the SPUs are not CPU cores with the same functionality as the 360 CPU cores

I think any further debate ends here, since after those shocking to PS3 owners news, we simply can't tell if 8 SPUs + a real CPU are better than 3 real CPUs in real world game applications

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ye first off they are called SPE's not SPU's, but since you cant even figure that much out, i will add you to Adobe's list of ppl who dont know what they are talking about.
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[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]Braid?SpinoRaptor24

OMG, plz stop your hurting the 360's rep.

Braid is an awesome game. You should play it before bashing it.

thats ok, ps3 has Little Big Planet. which has more-then-gaming-time amount of both user, and developer created levels.
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PS3 has one CPU core and 360 has 3 CPU cores, that is the factsobamanian
Wrong, but even so, Thats like saying PS3 has 1 PPE's and 8 SPE's, and 360 has 0 PPE's and 0 SPE's, this is a fact. but does it show much (other than sony's technology being newer, better, and more efficient)? the answer is simple but i will leave you to ponder for hours over it.
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#5 WutTimeIsIt
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i think it will be Final Fantasy Versus 13
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[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Braid was a major hitCherokee_Jack
LMAOOOOO.....that was honestly the funniest thing ive read all night. he makes a valid point tho, when next-gen consoles like 360 have a 2-d game as their best platformer, you know that system is the best.

Yeah, since platformers are the dominant genre here in 1995. :|

it is a dominant genre, lmao at you trying to turn everything into history, look at now for what it is, ppl like awesome platforming games Now too. enjoy Braid.
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Braid?SpinoRaptor24
OMG, plz stop your hurting the 360's rep.
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Braid was a major hitCouth_
LMAOOOOO.....that was honestly the funniest thing ive read all night. he makes a valid point tho, when next-gen consoles like 360 have a 2-d game as their best platformer, you know that system is the best.
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="PS3nut"]

LOL, anyone who saw friday the 13th's X-Play episode can no longer deny the domination of the PS3, God of War 3 is by far the most gorgeous game to date on any system and it will crush any previous game ever released in both reviews and sales.

Not to mention the endless list of such other PS3 exclusives to release this year like, Killzone 2, White Knight Chronicles, Infamous, MLB 09 The Show, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain.

Then to make the same episode of X-Play even better the guy from Microsoft fumbled over the question of how the 360 will compete with all these mega franchise exclusives coming out for PS3 this year, all he kept talking about was that new Xbox Experience, which by the way isn't so new anymore and doesn't hold a candle to HOME, especially when HOME get's it's EA sports complex update in March.

LOL we tried to tell you 360 fanboys the time of the PS3 is nearly upon us and now yourpuny RROD machine will be crushed, ahh i have thirsted for this moment since your over hyped and under achieved game releases of Halo 3, Gears and Mass Effect, and now you'll finally see what a real gaming company can do that has built up real phenomenal hit franchises.

So if i were you 360 boys, i'd run out and trade off that future RROD console of yours and pick up a PS3, because as sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west you will be salivating for a PS3 once these games come out.

yep, pretty sweet. we only have to wait another year.

most Retail websites are stating its due Dec. 31 2009....even if it took longer, that doesnt make 360 any better.
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Steppy_76"]

[QUOTE="Steppy_76"]While you are correct in the SPE being a processor core, you don't know what you are talking about as not all core are created equal. The PPE must feed the SPE's tasks to do, they can't just assign themselves tasks as they see fit. Also with a SPE being dedicated to the OS that takes away two threads that games can use. Theoretically the cell in the PS3 could run 9 threads, but realworld takes two of those away, and at least one of the threads on the PPE is going to be doing nothing but giving tasks to the SPE's.WutTimeIsIt

Steppy, I NEVER disputed that the Cell's SPE's are capable of running calculations. That's their purpose. And we both agree that the SPE's are designated to specific tasks. Essentially being divisions of the whole of the calculations that run the games. But how is a "Core" defined? I would say by the simple criteria that it, unto itself is a fully self running processor covering all the range of calculations needed to run a machine (PC, console, or whatnot) independently.

To put it more simply, of one of those SPE's were seperated, could it run a PC on it's own? The Xenon processor is based on 3 actual cores (based on IBM's PowerPC architecture), each one could actually run a PC or console on it's own (as that's what used to be in Mac computers before th switch to Intel), but in the console configuration, are designed to run in tandem.

Going by your second quote where I highlighted, the SPEs are unable to assign their own tasks. They require what the PPE, the central part of the core, gives them. Each core of the Xenon processor is capable of assigning their own tasks. They are each a self reliant processor.

I would use the analogy of an office. The Cell is one company that has these specialized divisions, which are offices in the main building. Each being very good at their specific tasks, which contributes to the companies operation, but not being able to function as their own company. The Xenon on the other hand is 3 companies, each that could operate independantly in the market, but working together in a partnership for a more effective business model.

once again you dont know anything about what your trying to say, plz educate yourself before you spread around false words. im not even gonna bother correcting you anymore waste of time.

actually i will say one thing cuz its really bugging me, each of those spe's has the capability to run any core instruction set, and at a faster rate then the "actual cores (lmao)" that your talking about. BUT, that wouldnt make Efficient Use of the technology, that would be like going backwards to try to do that. Plz just stop, your embarressing the 360 owners.