[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]its not.. and anyone who remembers the cartridge days will agree with me... and considering the time it takes to make a game these days paying up to and over 100 people salary for 2 - 5 years without any profit its not to much to ask 70 dollars for a game...volume_three

Damn right! Current average retail cost in Australian dollars for a new game: $99. Cost of Mortal Kombat in Australia for Sega Megadrive (Genesis) upon release: $140.

I would look at 3D Tv's in the future if you didn't have to wear those glasses, If I wanted to wear glasses I would get proper glasses :P

[QUOTE="Wuflungdung"][QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]holy smokes.. sucks to be an AU/NZ MW2 addict.... I found something much better.. its called Battlefield ;)xxgunslingerxx

you guys make more money then we do
cost of living for u guys is just higer in general

isnt ur minium wage like 16 dollars?

I upgraded my 60gb with a 500gb drive it was well worth paying that extra $100 to not have to worry about space at all.

[QUOTE="fm_coyote"]

but you're missing one point, the "reason" behind why car dealers would want to take away your GPS. You can't just say for the hell of it, because Sony had a reason (whether you agree with it or not) for removing Linux prior to leaving its customers with an ultimatum. And it would only be fair to draw an example that also contains such an element.

clicketyclick

yes, but even if you can draw an example that sounds similar to Sony's case, it's still a hypothetical. I could take it one step further and ask you to elaborate on that "misuse." I assume it would be pretty hard to come up with a realistic reason as to why a GPS system would be a threat to car companies/car dealers. I'm still certain you'll be able to come up with something, but chances are, it would be quite a stretch since it's a fictional example.

Anyway, all of that doesn't really matter since the real argument is about the "removal of Linux" and not about the merits of properly drawn examples... So, let's get back to Sony. We all know that there was a cause (i.e. a hack) and an effect (i.e. the removal of Linux). Now you may disagree with the effect, and i obviously have no place to judge your position on this matter, but i fail to see any underhanded tactics that warrant for Sony to be branded as a company that doesn't care about its customers. You think Sony should pay its customers for trying to cover its own a$$ from a realistic threat? That's fine... if that's what you truly believe. But i simply don't see why it should. Of course, this whole "Linux mess" is self-inflicted, and for that, Sony is already paying with its reputation to certain degree... but still, that doesn't change the fact that and Sony had explicit rights to remove Linux without having to worry about compensating any stakeholders and did so for a justifiable reason.

anyway, this is really a difference of opinion, so arguing this any further would be fruitless.

The example can be used on anything currently. the car companies could use the justification that ciminals are using the gps for criminal purposes. its the same thing as ppl could possibly use linux to hack the ps3. there isnt any difference.a company can have any reason and it can be justifiable, they should also be responsible for their actions. I dont promote piracy, but I as a paying consumer should also not be paying for people that do it. There was no warning there was no real explaination. I was given an ultimatum when I turned on my machine to use it when I paid for it. I agree with you we do have a difference of opinion. I just believe companies should beable to act in this way without consequences. A hit to repuation of this kind to a huge corporation means nothing these days because way too many people dont worry. It was like Ipods and Iphones, you get shoddy equipment, but people will just buy new ones cause its trendy.

[QUOTE="Wuflungdung"][QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

It's Sony's software, its theirs to do whatever they want with it. That guy from California isn't going to win this case.

Rakuho

but you're missing one point, the "reason" behind why car dealers would want to take away your GPS. You can't just say for the hell of it, because Sony had a reason (whether you agree with it or not) for removing Linux prior to leaving its customers with an ultimatum. And it would only be fair to draw an example that also contains such an element.

It's Sony's software, its theirs to do whatever they want with it. That guy from California isn't going to win this case.

KamuiFei

Sony is just now starting to profit off PS3 sales. If they dropped the price, they would lose money again.

SupaKoopaTroopa

if anyone have some issue due to some quest bugs in this game.sometime when i select a quest the dot on the map don't show up and i don't know where to go to complete that quest.also when teleporting it happen sometime that i have an eternal black screen and i must restart my ps3 it's very anoying.is there any other mad bugs in these game than that?

silentfox13