[QUOTE="JoeDoe1233"]

So, in conclusion, Halo 3 is teh **** It truly is.
I think we proved it here in this thread. Pretty much every single comment trying to disprove my topic do not make ANY sense at all to someone who has played Halo. For example, although not the only example, Ice. He's an idiot. (uh oh- im getting banned for that!) :shock:

Halo's just fun. I'm not saying it is the best shooter to EVERYBODY, but it certainly is ONE of the BEST and to me it is BY FAR THE BEST.

ice144

I love how you resort to flaming instead of trying to defend your argument.

Why do I have to defend an arguement when you're essentially wounding yourself?

Ice is confused. anyone have a cure-all that he can use?

And besides, why wouldn't I flame you? Flame melts ice. It's the obvious tool

* Seriously though. You have NO clue what you're talking about. You're the epitome of a system wars poster. Have fun!

[QUOTE="butteman12"]

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]I don't think most of the complaints have anything to do with multiplayer (which is what you chose to rant about), but rather the single player campaign, across the ENTIRE series, has been mediocre. Nothing about the single player campaign (in any of the halo installments) has been amazing (outside of the soundtrack). The AI is bad. The environments are bland (in terms of layout and being repetitive. The NPCs are worthless - in a warthog for example, you are left either driving while the NPC blindly shoots or you are left shooting while the NPC blindly drives. The dialogue/audio of the NPCs is incongruous with the rest of the game. The story is nothing spectacular. The weapons, while the variety is decent, have terrible effects. The enemy variety is lacking. And oh yeah, the "ending" of the series was garbage.Cloud_Insurance

1. AI is amazing, kamakaze grunts run at you from behind, enemies flank you. thats very impressive.

2. WOW. the environements for H3 were sooo great (except the Cortana Level), you had levels from snow, to the jungles, to beaches, to deserts and mountains. i have NO idea what you are talking about

3.NPC's aim is pretty good actually and have you played it on Legendary? its very very hard. the dialogue of grunts are kind annoying i give you that but MC's, seargant johnson, cortana elites and arbiter had fantastic voice acting.

4.The story isnt good? LOL!

5.the weapons have lots of variety and each one is very useful for certain parts. dont know what you mean there.

6. there is a pretty good ending if you beat the game on legendary... so your points all fail.

H3 is an amazing FPS...probably the best out there.

1. No its not even close to having good AI. Play some more FPS first. Please, try some PC ones maybe.

2. No way? Snow? Beaches? Deserts? No way! Except when you look at those environments they are nothing but huge empty spaces (outside of the first level). They have almost no objects or geometry to them. Play an FPS like CoD or Resistance or anything else and the indoor and outdoor environments have far more detail. Things like furniture, you know?

3. Again, my gt is G0NE R0GUE,,,

4, Its an opinion shared by many

5. Hmm, I wasn't talking about variety and usefulness. I was talking about the effects of the weapons. Besides your really don't need much more than a BR to beat the game...

6. Oh yeah because having MC actually survive makes the game ending awesome, right?

And here's how I respond to you: You're...

You know what, I dont want to be banned yet, Ill just say that when people ask for a song that represents a song you should post this:

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=SIhrdWt4_a8

There's no cure for idiocity. Just a random fact.

** but on a serious note, DO YOU QUITE REALIZE HOW STUPID YOUR ARGUEMENTS SOUDN TO A HALO PLAYER?

So, in conclusion, Halo 3 is teh **** It truly is.
I think we proved it here in this thread. Pretty much every single comment trying to disprove my topic do not make ANY sense at all to someone who has played Halo. For example, although not the only example, Ice. He's an idiot. (uh oh- im getting banned for that!) :shock:

Halo's just fun. I'm not saying it is the best shooter to EVERYBODY, but it certainly is ONE of the BEST and to me it is BY FAR THE BEST.

[QUOTE="JoeDoe1233"]

You hear many fanboys, in particular Hermits, toss around the idea that Halo is a mediocre game. Besides the fact that their arguement changes from Halo 1 is awful to Halo 1 was great, then to Halo 2 stunk then to Halo 1 and 2 were great but Halo 3 failed, I want to know why people say this.

the way I look at it, there are typically 3 main arguements used

- it does nothing new

- it's nothing by pc standards

- it's only popular, not good

So you guys really think Halo does nothing new? Give me a game that looks like this: http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=udVuT7n2qEE

Seriously, I dare you, do it. I can match COD4 with a game easily, Crysis, or Killzone, or whatever, but I fail to see a game like Halo. An then there's forge which is more so like a funbox which can be used as a map editor and then neat stuff like boarding and that stuff

Next up- nothing by pc standards.---> Is this a serious statement? Pc standards aren't exactly higher for shooters nowadays. Proof? Well just look at COD4 or Bioshock- same game, same score, meaning same scale.

And the last one, ahh... no comment, you guys can figure that one out.

* here's my point: Why do you guys essentially pretend it's not good? It is. Why not just buy a 360 for it, they're not that expensive now. I've been playing Halo 3 strongly for over a year now, and I'm not letting up. Halo 3 is the only game worth a 10 this generation.

Whiteblade999

You do realize the forge isn't a map editor? It's simply moving things around a map. If you want a map editor go play on the pc or some console games where you can create a level and not just move things around.

Halo isn't great but isn't bad either. It is an average game and that is the only thing it has going for it so-to speak. I can think of a few other games I would rather play than it because it doesn't have anything that makes it really stand out aside from Microsofts backing, if Microsoft didn't enter a deal with Bungie for Halo 1 you wouldn't even be playing it today I bet. Saying it's the best game is blatant fanboyism unless you can compare something other than graphics and a mini-sandbox that lets you move things around.

Pc standards? I'm not sure about pc standards but by my personal standards (I'm a hermit who doesn't care about graphics or gore overly) is if the game is fun and has good gameplay than its average unless it has I either haven't seen before or it is done so well it wows me. I am sure there are a lot of others like me. Halo is a game that is in a genre that is saturated with things that have been done to death but it is fun. So I would call it average, not good or bad.

Forge is whatever you want it to be. It can be treated like a map editor (see distortion, grifball, or something like that) but what I personally use it for: f***ing around. Playing a game being floated through space to later be smashed by a box = win

[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

did you play it on 360?

if so play it on pc its worlds better

VendettaRed07

Nope there's not much of a difference at all other than the controls (which don't make anything vastly better/worse). Having said that, HL2 is superb.

hm, i didnt like it on the 360, but i loved it on the pc

While I see it being viable, I hate Halo PC but Halo on the xbox is awesome, that seems strange.

I prefer to play it on the pc personally and I'd give TF2 that nudge also (not as much) and then Portal is something you should play on the 360.

Being a person who plays it at a setting that makes it look like a nice looking xbox (1) title on medium, I'd say that it's a decent shooter. I'd give it a 8. This is coming from someone who thought farcry (pc) was a pos

Meh. HL2's good but I dont find it to be anything extraordinary. It doesn't have that fun factor imo.

One thing that I don't get though: why do people say it has a good story, it barely has one. It has good storytelling, but there's not much going on really. HL2 is the epitome of a generic sci-fi story really, nothing unique going on for the most part. Again though, pretty damn good storytelling.

[QUOTE="JoeDoe1233"]

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]I don't think most of the complaints have anything to do with multiplayer (which is what you chose to rant about), but rather the single player campaign, across the ENTIRE series, has been mediocre. Nothing about the single player campaign (in any of the halo installments) has been amazing (outside of the soundtrack). The AI is bad. The environments are bland (in terms of layout and being repetitive. The NPCs are worthless - in a warthog for example, you are left either driving while the NPC blindly shoots or you are left shooting while the NPC blindly drives. The dialogue/audio of the NPCs is incongruous with the rest of the game. The story is nothing spectacular. The weapons, while the variety is decent, have terrible effects. The enemy variety is lacking. And oh yeah, the "ending" of the series was garbage.ice144

what you said basically proves you haven't played it.

Halo's AI is some of the best. Definately. Enemey AI that is, definately not friendly warthog drivers though (as you said).

That being said, they're damn good gunners and the dialogue is great and fitting, I dont get what you're saying.

And enemy variety, umm... there's 3 overall fractions with sub fractions within the covenenant.

And terrible effects on the weapons? What?

And the ending? Uhh... SPOILER- here it is, http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=VybS1C-4CAk You wouldn't know what this correlates if you haven't played other Halo games, specifically the first.

You seriously just spouted generic arguements against the game. You're proving my point

Halo's A.I. is the best? Hell, even Half-life 2's a.i. is better than halo's, and that's saying something(not counting episode 2, where they vastly improved it).

I recommend you play Bioshock, Half life 2, COD4, or even Prey if you want good and fitting dialogue for an FPS. I shouldn't have to go on the internet to understand what on earth the people in halo are talking about.

The ending was bad. No, disappointing is the better word. Only bioshock rival's it in that area.

The rest that you said I agree with, but let me add a little bit more.

Single-player: I want you to give me one good reason why Halo's sp mode isn't flat out bland compared to most other shooters out there.

Multiplayer: No comment here, pretty good for a console game.

Have you played Halo 3 is the question?
Here's you're one reason you asked for: http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=_s2DWJJh8qY&feature=related that was easy

And yes, I've actually played all those games you recommended.

Here's the ai, it's umm... good? Funny you say HL, because you realize that they quite literally stand and shoot for the most part? lol.

Halo. Gives me shivers.