Story wasn't that great (way to many characters, pacing in the last third of the game, and the laughable cliche story line "uh I came to america to get away from killing but its all I know how to do). The problem with his story throughout the game is that even after he understands his role as a killer, he complains and makes absurd choices as he goes about it.

We/Niko realize/s early on that killing will follow him to America and become something he has to do. The part that people are complaining about here is that even after he understands this is his new job/life he continues to complain and cry like a confused child, while in some cases acting like he is a remorseless killer.

The combination of these two contrasting views on killing make him look absurd. Either you're someone who is forced to kill as your job, in witch case you deal with it and do your job, or you choose to live a life without killing and choose to do something else. Anyone who chooses to kill for a living, while at the same time both complaining and reveling in the act, tends to appear confused.

The result is a character who acts like a ruthless killer, while at the same time whining and complaining. Interpitation: Confused, whiny, little girl

Vice City was my favorite. The setting was amazing (80s music/cars, beach vibe with the gulf drug trade). It helped that the release date of Vice City had been announced when I bought my PS2 so I skipped 3 and went straight to Vice City (I got the ground breaking 3D open world experience on a superior game which helped my love for it).

GTA 4 was the only one I didn't like (Niko was a bland character, his cousin was annoying, and the overall plot was below average). Reviewers flocked over the graphics and the overrated gimmicks (internet/cellphone). Its one of the most overrated games I have ever played (wasn't a bad game but the 10s across the board and multiple game of year awards where laughable).

I do (with both companies, Sony and Xbox) wonder what in the hell are they waiting for ?

They dragged the last generation 8 freaking years and when its finally time for the next there like "uh still working on games, not ready please wait 2-3 more years" (what exactly are they waiting for ? The last two years of last gen didn't have a ton of exclusives, they could of easily been working on the next gen titles). Its not like the last generation abruptly ended (they purposely dragged it out due to the high production cost from the start)

PC requirements are overkill. Both the 660 and i5 750 are faster than the consoles hardware (you'll be able to play it on less hardware if you don't mind mostly medium some low at 1080P).

The same thing happened on Shadows or Mordor (The minimum for Shadows was a first gen i5 or phenom x4 but people where playing it fine on low clocked i3s and FX series quad cores which are slower clock for clock then the phenoms).

@Ballroompirate said:

Outside of superior BC, mod support and higher resolution/fps everything you said has a positive effect and a negative one

My GTX 970 was $332, that's literally the price of a whole console, hell you can get a Xbone and the MC collection for $349. Cheaper games? again that's depending on the game and if it's on sale, got to love paying $59 for a digital copy of a game

Price's on video cards aren't bad if you look around (I purchased a R9 290 which is like 10 precent slower than a gtx 970 and paid less than $200 brand new). Most of the R9 280s on the shelves where priced $160-180 and offer twice the performance as the consoles (R9 290 and 280s for half the price of the consoles isn't bad considering they smoke it and any above average CPU in the last 5 years is all you need to pair it with).

Cheaper games is almost always (GMG and physical copy preorders where all $50 or less, friend bought the physical for $40 )

What funny about this is in November of 2013 (month the consoles came out) you could by a Tahiti version of the 7870XT for under $150 bucks....... (1.2ghz on stock volts its twice as fast as the consoles GPU).

I wouldn't call twice as fast for 150 bucks "Gpu's cost more than consoles"

Comparatively speaking, this has to be the weakest generation ever. An amd x6 with motherboard was selling for $120 a year before the consoles came out and its a pretty good step up in terms of CPU power (consoles can't even beat a fringe $80 CPU in 2012 prices). Hell even the 7870XT on stock volts was offering twice the GPU power as the consoles by the time they came out ($180 GPU offering twice the performance at launch is embarrassing, it even dropped to $130 the winter that the consoles came out).

My family had something similar happen with AT&T.

The bill was $180 for three generic phones and a smart phone (4 total phones). My family went in there and when they left they had an ipad + one of the generic phones switched to an LG2 and the bill came out the same

From my understanding the AMD octo cores aren't "true" octo cores (the cores share resources between each other). In a true octo core scenario each core has its own resources.

The fact that its not a true octo core + the fact that the architecture is weak (the architecture from an intel i7 920 from 2008 is superior than the current AMD cpu's) are reasons why a quad core intel can outperform the FX 8000/9000 series CPU's

I don't know about comparing price against price to the exact amount but what some fanboys don't realize is that you can spend a little more for something much much better.

I did a build a few months ago for a friend and we spent $600 (with tax and shipping) for the entire tower including windows. He has a much faster CPU (FX 6300) and a GPU that's twice as fast as the consoles + it came with $100 in games (GTX 670 that's factory overclocked by about 10%).

For me to go out and buy a PS4 with tax and online I'm coming home with a $500 bill ($600 bill for the xboxone). He spent $600 with tax/shipping and even got $100 in free games for a system that's twice as fast....... ("buh buh PC gaming is expensive !" ").

I do agree that trying to build for the exact price of the consoles isn't the best idea but spending $100-150 more for something greatly superior is still a fair comparison