The gaming world moves with consoles, so why do I NEED a gaming PC?

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

The gaming world moves with consoles?

:lol: System Wars gets worse by the minute.

Where did FPSs, online multiplayer, digital download, modding, etc. first happen :lol: ?

TheEroica

The PC will keep doing it's thing and whatever consoles can do better :P

You don't need a Gaming PC, period. They don't offer any true advantages to consoles and are not even taken seriously by devs anymore. They say it has the most eXclusives, but thats just not true when you take into account the ones that are actually worth a damn. PC is niche platform, if you are weird and still like RTS or MMOs or Facebook games, stick with it. Otherwise what your topic states is true, consoles ARE the gaming industry.EvanTheGamer

Uh oh, you can tell you hit a nerve when the pc kids start pulling out the funny pictures! XDEvanTheGamer

Agreed. Damn PC Gamers mad that Consoles have Mods, Superior Graphics, More exclusives, More games, and more Freedom than there 2,000 dollar toys! :lol:

Uh oh, you can tell you hit a nerve when the pc kids start pulling out the funny pictures! XDEvanTheGamer

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]Uh oh, you can tell you hit a nerve when the pc kids start pulling out the funny pictures! XDTheEroica

YOUR experience moves with consoles...because you have to buy a new console to get a new experience. PC just gets them as they come/evolve. I don't see MMOs, RTS, simulation, FPS, horror, RPGs, or anything else evolving on consoles. Fighting and platforming evolve on consoles because they aren't popular with PC, and adventure games to a lesser degree. Not to mention we have all the control schemes, and can modify how almost all of them work to our liking. Nothing provides an all-in-one solution like PC can.

In reality, no console maker or PC controls the flow of evolution or new experiences. It's all up to the developers to create them.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]Uh oh, you can tell you hit a nerve when the pc kids start pulling out the funny pictures! XDChubbyGuy40

YOUR experience moves with consoles...because you have to buy a new console to get a new experience. PC just gets them as they come/evolve. I don't see MMOs, RTS, simulation, FPS, horror, RPGs, or anything else evolving on consoles. Fighting and platforming evolve on consoles because they aren't popular with PC, and adventure games to a lesser degree. Not to mention we have all the control schemes, and can modify how almost all of them work to our liking. Nothing provides an all-in-one solution like PC can.

In reality, no console maker or PC controls the flow of evolution or new experiences. It's all up to the developers to create them.

RPGs are evolving on consoles, Dark Souls is a bright example and most big RPGs from PC like Witcher 2, Skyrim, Mass Effect 1-2-3 are on xbox 360

And games like Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 look like exact copies of the older ones, so where is the evolution ?

The best fps i have played is still Halo btw

"If PC offered a new style of gaming that was a must have experience..."

It doesn't, pure and simple. PC Gaming is the most conservative, traditional platform out there. 10 years ago the majority of us played with Keyboard and Mouse. Today, the majoirty of us play with Keyboard and Mouse. 10 Years from now, we will most likely be playing with Keyboard and Mouse.

Is that bad? No. We don't have to worry about motion controls being a hit and taking over how we control our games.

Consoles offer new experiences in gaming because companies have to market themselves as different than other compeitior consoles. Motion controlls being a hit? Yes.

Is that a bad thing? No, motion controls are pretty good when done properly.

ShadowDeathX

This, although motion controls right now are sorta bad :P. The fact of the matter is PC was and is so ahead of the rest that it doesnt need any change. If it did, gamers would have bought an item that proved so. I love that my PC gives me choice. I am not forced to use all this proprietary junk.

Don't you people ever get tired having the same argument over and over again ?

And games like Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 look like exact copies of the older ones, so where is the evolution ?

loosingENDS

Even Starcraft 2 wasn't an exact copy of SC1, and D3 brings far more changes than SC2 ever did.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Skyrim best version is the one that will get the DLC 30 days before anything else for me

lowe0

What you gonna say after those 30 days when PC gamers get a hold of it and we have all our free mods.

What good do mods do me if I'm already done with the game (one way or another) by then?lowe0

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

And games like Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 look like exact copies of the older ones, so where is the evolution ?

AdrianWerner

Even Starcraft 2 wasn't an exact copy of SC1, and D3 brings far more changes than SC2 ever did.

Agreed, Dark Souls is like Demons Souls, but the thing is that Dark Souls is a next gen RPG, with a vastly improved combat system, design etc

It is not stuck to cliking the mouse to fight and flat open grounds for the world

SC2 was a big step down too, only human compaign was a downer of epic proportions

Also Diablo 3 new art style reminds me nothing of Diablo, another huge downgrade and let down

SC2 was a big step down too, only human compaign was a downer of epic proportions

Also Diablo 3 new art style reminds me nothing of Diablo, another huge downgrade and let down

loosingENDS

And sorry...but "downraging" isn't a term you can use for art style change.

Bassicaly you should have just written you don't like the changes, instead of making up stuff up about them being exact copies of older titles. which is even more ridiculous seeing as you are bashing the changes in Diablo 3...how is it exact copy if it has enough changes to make you hate it?

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

And games like Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 look like exact copies of the older ones, so where is the evolution ?

loosingENDS

Even Starcraft 2 wasn't an exact copy of SC1, and D3 brings far more changes than SC2 ever did.

Agreed, Dark Souls is like Demons Souls, but the thing is that Dark Souls is a next gen RPG, with a vastly improved combat system, design etc

It is not stuck to cliking the mouse to fight and flat open grounds for the world

SC2 was a big step down too, only human compaign was a downer of epic proportions

Also Diablo 3 new art style reminds me nothing of Diablo, another huge downgrade and let down

Dark Souls and Demons souls are not next gen, good as the games are they are still hack and slash action RPGs running in sub HD.

As for SC2 it scored the same as DS and you really shouldn't make comments like that on games you havn't played.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]What good do mods do me if I'm already done with the game (one way or another) by then?AdrianWerner

PC Gamers need the add-on and DLC because so little comes out whereas consoles get big name games ALL the time.EvanTheGamer

Not sure if your serious.

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]Uh oh, you can tell you hit a nerve when the pc kids start pulling out the funny pictures! XDTheEroica

Your point being that consoles are in the lead now? It was refuted on the first or second page. Consoles only lead the way now in big budget AAA first party game development. They aren't innovating anything new except for perhaps motion controls. PC pioneered DD and has pioneered almost every aspect of console hardware (CD, HDD, HD) and many aspects of console play (online play). Consoles get those big budget AAA titles now such as CoD because there is money to be had there. It doesn't mean that consoles are leading the way in game development nor in the amount of exclusives. Consoles right now have a very high profile because companies are investing money to make them stand out. That shine is starting to fade now. PC still leads the way in exclusives, innovations and is still the driving force behind gaming. It might be more casual now than hardcore (debatable), but nevertheless WoW by itself crushes everything else out there in terms of sheer numbers.

You don't need a Gaming PC, period. They don't offer any true advantages to consoles and are not even taken seriously by devs anymore.

Better graphics/more customizability/mods don't count as true advantages?

They say it has the most eXclusives, but thats just not true when you take into account the ones that are actually worth a damn.

It's your own opinion that the exclusives aren't worth a damn. Too bad it is not shared by everyone. The only fact is that it has more exclusives.

PC is niche platform, if you are weird and still like RTS or MMOs or Facebook games, stick with it.

Yes because of course MMOs and RTS are the only genre of games the PC has :roll:

Otherwise what your topic states is true, consoles ARE the gaming industry.

Weird. Why are PC sales doing so well recently and just keep going up then?

EvanTheGamer

You're obviously a console fanboy who doesn't take his time to figure out what's really going on in the industry.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]Uh oh, you can tell you hit a nerve when the pc kids start pulling out the funny pictures! XDmenes777

Your point being that consoles are in the lead now? It was refuted on the first or second page. Consoles only lead the way now in big budget AAA first party game development. They aren't innovating anything new except for perhaps motion controls. PC pioneered DD and has pioneered almost every aspect of console hardware (CD, HDD, HD) and many aspects of console play (online play). Consoles get those big budget AAA titles now such as CoD because there is money to be had there. It doesn't mean that consoles are leading the way in game development nor in the amount of exclusives. Consoles right now have a very high profile because companies are investing money to make them stand out. That shine is starting to fade now. PC still leads the way in exclusives, innovations and is still the driving force behind gaming. It might be more casual now than hardcore (debatable), but nevertheless WoW by itself crushes everything else out there in terms of sheer numbers.

Unless I miss my guess, PCs also pioneered motion controls too. TrackIR was first released in 2001.

PC Gamers need the add-on and DLC because so little comes out whereas consoles get big name games ALL the time.EvanTheGamer

PC Gamers need the add-on and DLC because so little comes out whereas consoles get big name games ALL the time.EvanTheGamer

Yet, it has the most exclusives... It's kind of funny that, eh?

Oh wait, you'll just say they're not worthwhile, or something along those lines.

Actually it's PC that drives the changes in the industry. Most trends and gameplay ideas are born there. Console gaming is always couple steps behind PC, instead focusing on mainstream and generally being averse to taking chances.

AdrianWerner

PC Gaming evolves? I wouldn't call Zynga type pay to play games evolving, at least not for the better.EvanTheGamer

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]PC Gamers need the add-on and DLC because so little comes out whereas consoles get big name games ALL the time.lundy86_4

Yet, it has the most exclusives... It's kind of funny that, eh?

Oh wait, you'll just say they're not worthwhile, or something along those lines.

I find console 'exclusives' to be console games, which don't interest PC gamers (UC would be cool on PC, but its just another TPS snoozer) PC is the only place to play multiplats, and the only place to play games like SWTOR etc. Really a console is just an affordable PC when you think about it ... so why do you want a PC? Because its a good version of a console!GeorgeCScott

Unfortunately, you have little to back up your assumption that console exclusives do not interest PC gamers.

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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]PC Gamers need the add-on and DLC because so little comes out whereas consoles get big name games ALL the time.GeorgeCScott

Yet, it has the most exclusives... It's kind of funny that, eh?

Oh wait, you'll just say they're not worthwhile, or something along those lines.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]PC Gamers need the add-on and DLC because so little comes out whereas consoles get big name games ALL the time.GeorgeCScott

Yet, it has the most exclusives... It's kind of funny that, eh?

Oh wait, you'll just say they're not worthwhile, or something along those lines.

Can i play Dark Souls, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake, FF13-2, Project Draco, Ryse, Dust, Fable JOurney, Halo 3-Reach, Gears 2-3 etc on PC though ?

On the other hand i can definatly play Witcher 2, Skyrim and Mass Effect 1-2-3 on xbox 360

In fact Mass Effect 3 gets Kinect support and Skyrim gets exclusive DLC on xbox 360, making the 360 version the one of choice for me by far, plus has native pad controls i prefer by far too

[QUOTE="GeorgeCScott"]I find console 'exclusives' to be console games, which don't interest PC gamers (UC would be cool on PC, but its just another TPS snoozer) PC is the only place to play multiplats, and the only place to play games like SWTOR etc. Really a console is just an affordable PC when you think about it ... so why do you want a PC? Because its a good version of a console!lundy86_4

Unfortunately, you have little to back up your assumption that console exclusives do not interest PC gamers.

Unfortunately, you have little to back up your assumption that console exclusives do not interest PC gamers.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Unfortunately, you have little to back up your assumption that console exclusives do not interest PC gamers.

AdrianWerner

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Unfortunately, you have little to back up your assumption that console exclusives do not interest PC gamers.

loosingENDS

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Unfortunately, you have little to back up your assumption that console exclusives do not interest PC gamers.

loosingENDS

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

No need for a gaming PC if you have a console.

No need for a gaming PC if you have a console.

Pug-Nasty

No need for a gaming PC if you have a console.

Pug-Nasty

No need for a gaming PC if you have a console.

Pug-Nasty

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

No need for a gaming PC if you have a console.

SapSacPrime

My laptop runs games very well, but there really isn't a need for a gaming PC when you have a console, since you're getting most of the games anyway.

The logic goes the other way as well, but it's probably cheaper to buy a regular old laptop and a console than it is to buy a gaming PC.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Consoles are so cheap that any pcgamer who has any interest in console exclusives already has one.

wis3boi

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

No need for a gaming PC if you have a console.

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

starjet905

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] - plug PC into TV - plug controller into PC - argument invalidlowe0

gaming pcs are to big to fit on my shelf if i use a controler i will get pwned online fps and rts games which is the reason i even game on pc.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

starjet905

Moving my work PC to the living room to play a game is not reallty my idea of having fun

Same if i had to buy a brand new gaming PC to have in the living room

Also not all PC games have native pad controls

So, these arguments are 100% valid, xbox 360 offers me all PC games i want, for 199$, without having to buy a gaming PC or have one in the living room and all games play the way i prefer, with pad