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xbots would you please stop with this junk. You aren't going to be charged for assets in your apartment such as shoes and couches. You will earn points by playing games to jazz up your place. You will get dinged for micro transactions the same way you do on xbot live. When you download movies, music and full games. Don't start with your FUD campaign against this.So first Sony lies to you about Killzone 2 E3 Trailer. Now they are using ANOTHER gimmick to get people hooked to this Second Life meets Xbox Live Achievments? Please this is so sad, and now Cows are going to what...hype this as the next Halo 3 killer? *slow claps*
Alright cows, you go have your fun with your $1.00 virtual shoes and your $5 couch, and your $10 movie for 24hours and your $2 shirt, before you know this will cost more than XBL yearly, sad.
Taiko88
[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Yes, Sony ripped off Nintendo. But who cares, this is almost 10x than Nintendo's sloppy system. Admit it, Sony have done well here.JandurinUntil it is released, I believe nothing. I like the potential, though. It all depends on how complete they are and how greedy they are. Sony really have to deliver and they know they have to. I allready have high expectations. I was an unhappy cow waiting for good news. Now that has come I am over the moon :D
Yes, Sony ripped off Nintendo. But who cares, this is almost 10x than Nintendo's sloppy system. Admit it, Sony have done well here.gingerdividtechnically they haven't actually done anything but advertise it yet. I'll wait till it's actually out. haven't we been let down by them so often and recently too?
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Yes, Sony ripped off Nintendo. But who cares, this is almost 10x than Nintendo's sloppy system. Admit it, Sony have done well here.gingerdividUntil it is released, I believe nothing. I like the potential, though. It all depends on how complete they are and how greedy they are. Sony really have to deliver and they know they have to. I allready have high expectations. I was an unhappy cow waiting for good news. Now that has come I am over the moon :D
[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Yes, Sony ripped off Nintendo. But who cares, this is almost 10x than Nintendo's sloppy system. Admit it, Sony have done well here.Ontaintechnically they haven't actually done anything but advertise it yet. I'll wait till it's actually out. haven't we been let down by them so often and recently too? Please dont be realistic :( let me dream :)
[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Yes, Sony ripped off Nintendo. But who cares, this is almost 10x than Nintendo's sloppy system. Admit it, Sony have done well here.JandurinUntil it is released, I believe nothing. I like the potential, though. It all depends on how complete they are and how greedy they are. True, but so far to me (if implemented well) this looks like a good idea for the girls to hang out. I'm tellig you the women love this crap. The wii...my wife and her friends love it (and so do my kids). PS3 is doing a good job of getting femail apeal.
Yes, Sony ripped off Nintendo. But who cares, this is almost 10x than Nintendo's sloppy system. Admit it, Sony have done well here.gingerdivid
Nintendo's sloppy system..So far the Wii has alota nice features..You realize Nintendo's online hasnt yet kicked in yet..No one know what they're planning..
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Yes, Sony ripped off Nintendo. But who cares, this is almost 10x than Nintendo's sloppy system. Admit it, Sony have done well here.mikasaUntil it is released, I believe nothing. I like the potential, though. It all depends on how complete they are and how greedy they are. True, but so far to me (if implemented well) this looks like a good idea for the girls to hang out. I'm tellig you the women love this crap. The wii...my wife and her friends love it (and so do my kids). PS3 is doing a good job of getting femail apeal. Yeah, but $600 really kills that appeal
[QUOTE="Taiko88"]xbots would you please stop with this junk. You aren't going to be charged for assets in your apartment such as shoes and couches. You will earn points by playing games to jazz up your place. You will get dinged for micro transactions the same way you do on xbot live. When you download movies, music and full games. Don't start with your FUD campaign against this.So first Sony lies to you about Killzone 2 E3 Trailer. Now they are using ANOTHER gimmick to get people hooked to this Second Life meets Xbox Live Achievments? Please this is so sad, and now Cows are going to what...hype this as the next Halo 3 killer? *slow claps*
Alright cows, you go have your fun with your $1.00 virtual shoes and your $5 couch, and your $10 movie for 24hours and your $2 shirt, before you know this will cost more than XBL yearly, sad.
iwo4life
But it IS possible that with all the PSHome is going to offer, you may find yourself "nickle-and-diming" your way to over $5 a month worth of stuff (games, clothes, etc.). Is it worth it? That's T.B.D., but to think that the best experiences in PSHome will all be free of charge might be narrow-minded. Just like having to pay for the premium content on Live.
I'm interested to hear from Major Nelson and the Xbox team on how they view this and what they have up their sleeves.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Yes, Sony ripped off Nintendo. But who cares, this is almost 10x than Nintendo's sloppy system. Admit it, Sony have done well here.mikasaUntil it is released, I believe nothing. I like the potential, though. It all depends on how complete they are and how greedy they are. True, but so far to me (if implemented well) this looks like a good idea for the girls to hang out. I'm tellig you the women love this crap. The wii...my wife and her friends love it (and so do my kids). PS3 is doing a good job of getting femail apeal.
Huh? You tellin' me that girls don't like chainsawing Locusts?
[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="-Pale"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]I think Sony just won the war....-Palelets wait till it actually comes out and see how it works (what you have to pay for) we should all be skeptical about anything that sony promises before it's released. What do you think people have to pay for? well i read they mentioned apartment. and then stuff for your apartment. the music you want to play in your apartment etc. if all you get free is your character, 1 starting outfit and the lobby... well that's not very special. So if you get a free character with loads of clothing already available, a free apartment and from the sounds of things you can play music that's ALREADY on your PS3 hard drive along with videos. So you don't need to download them. I really doubt they'll make you pay for a room. loads of clothing already available? how do you know you don't have to buy other outfits than the one you initially created your character with? How do you know that virtual real estate is free? as for the music and videos. Second Life requires that you pay them a fee in order to upload media to their servers. otherwise other ppl can't see them. how do you know it won't be the same on Home? if you think that you can store it all on your harddrive then it's going to be a spotty community with real estate and content disappearing when ppl turn off their ps3's. also depending on your connection how would you support more than a few ppl going to your apartment and streaming content from your ps3? see how it wouldn't work as easy as you might think?
It's about time Sony actually impressed me with something very innovatitve, that has a ton of potential, but we'll see soon enough whether this PSHome is any good or not, along with possible microtransactions, aside from the free stuff at the beginning. Blue-Sphere
this won't help to beat XBL , it's a game , a second life ripoff . how will PSH make playing Warhawk or Killzone better ? nothing . on XBL you have total freedom of multimedia , chat , Messages , etc, all this while playing games . PSH is a game , not a XBL killer .A game? Yet you call it a Secound Life rip-off, which is not a game. Hmm... also, you have very little, if any, multi media freedoms. Theres a small selection of supported things XBL offers, whereas the PS3 gives you that freedom. And PSN/H will have chat, messaging, etc.
And a total milkage experience :roll: !
Prid3r
[QUOTE="Taiko88"]xbots would you please stop with this junk. You aren't going to be charged for assets in your apartment such as shoes and couches. You will earn points by playing games to jazz up your place. You will get dinged for micro transactions the same way you do on xbot live. When you download movies, music and full games. Don't start with your FUD campaign against this. What are you talking about cow? If you saw the trailer you will be charged for shoes, special cloths, special furniture...sigh you cows are so blindSo first Sony lies to you about Killzone 2 E3 Trailer. Now they are using ANOTHER gimmick to get people hooked to this Second Life meets Xbox Live Achievments? Please this is so sad, and now Cows are going to what...hype this as the next Halo 3 killer? *slow claps*
Alright cows, you go have your fun with your $1.00 virtual shoes and your $5 couch, and your $10 movie for 24hours and your $2 shirt, before you know this will cost more than XBL yearly, sad.
iwo4life
this won't help to beat XBL , it's a game , a second life ripoff . how will PSH make playing Warhawk or Killzone better ? nothing . on XBL you have total freedom of multimedia , chat , Messages , etc, all this while playing games . PSH is a game , not a XBL killer .i guess lemmings can make anything look bad :l
And a total milkage experience :roll: !
Prid3r
[QUOTE="Blue-Sphere"]It's about time Sony actually impressed me with something very innovatitve, that has a ton of potential, but we'll see soon enough whether this PSHome is any good or not, along with possible microtransactions, aside from the free stuff at the beginning. sirk1264
[QUOTE="Blue-Sphere"]It's about time Sony actually impressed me with something very innovatitve, that has a ton of potential, but we'll see soon enough whether this PSHome is any good or not, along with possible microtransactions, aside from the free stuff at the beginning. sirk1264
What bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
I think i'm the only one who dislikes this whole Home approach to an online community.
Graphically, it is hardly charming and appealing to me since it sports a very realistic look. Too realistic I would go so in saying. The Sims, despite having a similar style, at least had some charm to it whereas this has absolutely none. It's trying to pull off making a game lobby into a Sims-lite MMO, but unfortunately that will over complicate matters as far as menus go. It will be essential that it streams flawlessly from the HDD, otherwise I will have to wade through loading screens just to get to a pre-game lobby of all things. I just think Sony are trying to do too much by making it like a living room on your television. They have taken the simple but effective matchmaking approach, and added layer upon layer of un-necessary ideas and a frankly ugly design.
I also think that the way you access the features is all wrong. I mean, a trophy room? A cinema that you have to walk to? All I want to do is scroll down a menu and press play. When I look at it from the rival Xbox 360s point of view, I don't want to turn on my console and have to boot up Home, then walk to each movie and hit play. It will just side track me from what I really want to be watching or downloading. I think again this demonstrates how Sony have over-complicating proceedings to outweigh the rivals. What is really happening to us is that we are being blinded by their pretty lights and ambition. When we do manage to finally see however, it will make us yearn for simpler times.
Call me a hater or skeptic if you want, but that's just the way I feel on the whole Home system. I prefer the lists and simplicity of the Xbox Live blade system over this. I think the idea would have fared better with a charming Mii style cartoon look and Xbox Live simplicity to be honest...
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They're Cows. What else would you expect from them? :PWhat bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
Tsug_Ze_Wind
This is the farthest thing from miis. Miis= useless gimick thats not even used and just something for you to look at, PSH= a useful gimmick thats much more like 2nd life then miis, is a full world where you can make your own house and have alot more custom ability, and you can actually use your little character.What bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
Tsug_Ze_Wind
[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]This is the farthest thing from miis. Miis= useless gimick thats not even used and just something for you to look at, PSH= a useful gimmick thats much more like 2nd life then miis, is a full world where you can make your own house and have alot more custom ability, and you can actually use your little character.What bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
coolguy1111
So basically, "The same, except bettar!!"
Yep. Ripoff.
[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]This is the farthest thing from miis. Miis= useless gimick thats not even used and just something for you to look at, PSH= a useful gimmick thats much more like 2nd life then miis, is a full world where you can make your own house and have alot more custom ability, and you can actually use your little character.What bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
Tsug_Ze_Wind
So basically, "The same, except bettar!!"
Yep. Ripoff.
No, what do you do with your miis? NOTHING. They sit in a room and you look at them. And first off, this is a rip-off of 2nd life/sims, not miis.[QUOTE="Blue-Sphere"]It's about time Sony actually impressed me with something very innovatitve, that has a ton of potential, but we'll see soon enough whether this PSHome is any good or not, along with possible microtransactions, aside from the free stuff at the beginning. sirk1264
[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]This is the farthest thing from miis. Miis= useless gimick thats not even used and just something for you to look at, PSH= a useful gimmick thats much more like 2nd life then miis, is a full world where you can make your own house and have alot more custom ability, and you can actually use your little character.What bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
coolguy1111
[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]This is the farthest thing from miis. Miis= useless gimick thats not even used and just something for you to look at, PSH= a useful gimmick thats much more like 2nd life then miis, is a full world where you can make your own house and have alot more custom ability, and you can actually use your little character.What bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
Rubedo
No, what do you do with your miis? NOTHING. They sit in a room and you look at them. And first off, this is a rip-off of 2nd life/sims, not miis. coolguy1111
So you think no ideas were taken from Miis?
This is the Sony last resort. "When all else fails, just copy everything our competitors are doing." Hell, not even the last resort, more like the first resort.
Sony would have no reason to rip off of the Sims.
I agree 100%, plus, you forgot to mention that this is not a game. What Sony needs to save the sytem and take my money is some good games, because as everyone knows (although the Sony Lovers wont admit it), is that there are no games out right now for the PS3. I played VF5 - its OK, I finished RFOM - its OK, I have MotorStorm - its OK, etc, etc....I think i'm the only one who dislikes this whole Home approach to an online community.
Graphically, it is hardly charming and appealing to me since it sports a very realistic look. Too realistic I would go so in saying. The Sims, despite having a similar style, at least had some charm to it whereas this has absolutely none. It's trying to pull off making a game lobby into a Sims-lite MMO, but unfortunately that will over complicate matters as far as menus go. It will be essential that it streams flawlessly from the HDD, otherwise I will have to wade through loading screens just to get to a pre-game lobby of all things. I just think Sony are trying to do too much by making it like a living room on your television. They have taken the simple but effective matchmaking approach, and added layer upon layer of un-necessary ideas and a frankly ugly design.
I also think that the way you access the features is all wrong. I mean, a trophy room? A cinema that you have to walk to? All I want to do is scroll down a menu and press play. When I look at it from the rival Xbox 360s point of view, I don't want to turn on my console and have to boot up Home, then walk to each movie and hit play. It will just side track me from what I really want to be watching or downloading. I think again this demonstrates how Sony have over-complicating proceedings to outweigh the rivals. What is really happening to us is that we are being blinded by their pretty lights and ambition. When we do manage to finally see however, it will make us yearn for simpler times.
Call me a hater or skeptic if you want, but that's just the way I feel on the whole Home system. I prefer the lists and simplicity of the Xbox Live blade system over this. I think the idea would have fared better with a charming Mii style cartoon look and Xbox Live simplicity to be honest...
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-Spock-
For $600 it better be massive, its the only thing worthwhile on the PS3[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="A2D"] Have you people seen the trailer? This is way beyond a friends list. Sony are providing a virtual world here, if you want to chill out and talk to random people, you can do so. You can take them to your virtual room which I'm sure Sony will be letting you buy plasma tv's etc. to "impress" people. They even showed how you can play multiplayer pool, bowling (Wii sports inspiration?) and other random stuff.
This is far greater than I expected, the potential here is massive.
Bread_or_Decide
Even the haters can't hate on this! lol.
[QUOTE="Rubedo"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]This is the farthest thing from miis. Miis= useless gimick thats not even used and just something for you to look at, PSH= a useful gimmick thats much more like 2nd life then miis, is a full world where you can make your own house and have alot more custom ability, and you can actually use your little character.What bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
coolguy1111
Who are you to say Miis won't be used in future games?
[QUOTE="Rubedo"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]This is the farthest thing from miis. Miis= useless gimick thats not even used and just something for you to look at, PSH= a useful gimmick thats much more like 2nd life then miis, is a full world where you can make your own house and have alot more custom ability, and you can actually use your little character.What bothers me almost as much as this blatant ripoff of competitor's ideas is the cows' reaction to it.
Before: "Achievements are pointless." "OMG Miis, Kidtendo is at it again!! :lol:"
After: "TS&LHBO, we get achievements and Miis!!"
I guess I should be used to it by now...:roll:
coolguy1111
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