Sheep have to admit that it makes the whole Mii avatar thing look weak.SooshyAgain. It's Sims Online with a different name, and a $600 pricetag. :|
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Sheep have to admit that it makes the whole Mii avatar thing look weak.SooshyAgain. It's Sims Online with a different name, and a $600 pricetag. :|
[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="2largeadults"][QUOTE="BaconBallz1337"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]600 dollars...roflmafoa. That's an original argument. Dosen't make it any less valid. Sorry. It was never valid to begin with. People can go until the end of time screaming I'm not paying $600 for ______________________ (fill in the blank with game/feature/hardware flaw of your choice) Whiners. Oh, great argument. :roll: Mii's and Live aren't owned - until Sony can drop the price on the PS3 enough to satisfy the demographic that "Home" is actually targeting. Try to think.Wow, Nintendo's Kiddy Mii's and XBox Live just got owned all in just one video.
PS Home is amazing.
2largeadults
It was never valid to begin with. People can go until the end of time screaming I'm not paying $600 for ______________________ (fill in the blank with game/feature/hardware flaw of your choice) Whiners.
It was never valid to begin with. People can go until the end of time screaming I'm not paying $600 for ______________________ (fill in the blank with game/feature/hardware flaw of your choice) Whiners.
why not a mini garden or world to shape and play in which you can build games while in the back ground stream music and download media. It would be connected to a larger world to meet other gamers and you can invite friend into you garden and they can play the levels you make with challenges and enemies the you create or buy.viva pinata already exists elsewhere.Sony why not do that?
dreman999
[QUOTE="Sooshy"]Sheep have to admit that it makes the whole Mii avatar thing look weak.HeedleGlavinAgain. It's Sims Online with a different name, and a $600 pricetag. :|
Not only is this an old, stale, argument, I'm getting pretty tired of fanboys that pretend the $500 PS3 doesn't exist.
Dire_Weasel
[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]Sheep have to admit that it makes the whole Mii avatar thing look weak.Dire_WeaselAgain. It's Sims Online with a different name, and a $600 pricetag. :|
I can say that price really isn't a factor for me (I have 5 PC's at home), so my decision not to buy Sony if for the obvious reasons. Home won't change that. Their history with online services is pretty poor, and they WILL force out an unfinished, buggy, and overpriced product just to make their $$$. They also have no issues breaking a working product, or randomly justifying price increases. Just because they say home is free, will the free parts be worthwhile or will you need to pay to get what you actually wanted out of the service?Warfust
[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]Sheep have to admit that it makes the whole Mii avatar thing look weak.Dire_WeaselAgain. It's Sims Online with a different name, and a $600 pricetag. :|
How exactly is it 5x better? Statements like that are why people sound stupid when talking about PSHome vs. Live. You haven't even used PSH and I am guessing you have never used XBL if you think that PSHome has the best of what XBL has to offer.I just think it's funny that Lemmings come in calling PS-Home a 3d Myspace and using that as a grounds to bash the incredible idea. If you guys don't notice this, Myspace was the biggest thing to happen to the internet since Google and porn. While 360 users are staring at a list of arcade games to play with their invisible friends, PS3 users will be sharing anything they want on their 60 or 20gb HDD (or more considering they can be replaced by a standard HDD bought from a store, or linked up to an external HDD) and trying to choose who to play in which arcade games on display in their virtual arcade room set with whatever arcade games or bar games they wish to put in it.
I love how arguments like "IPTV will own everything" pop up, when Sony clearly tackled that aspect by introducing a virtual movie theater complete with trailers and full fledged movies. Achievments? How about having a whole room devoted to it where people can easy walk through and see what you did in what games. Don't even get me started on clan support....and areas of PS-Home devoted to what developers for certain games want in their space.
Sony basically took the best of what 360's Live had to offer, the best of what Nintendo's online networking had to offer (basically Miis) and made it 5x better. Hopefully they just implement it the right way....
Spag1091
[QUOTE="Spag1091"]How exactly is it 5x better? Statements like that are why people sound stupid when talking about PSHome vs. Live. You haven't even used PSH and I am guessing you have never used XBL if you think that PSHome has the best of what XBL has to offer.I just think it's funny that Lemmings come in calling PS-Home a 3d Myspace and using that as a grounds to bash the incredible idea. If you guys don't notice this, Myspace was the biggest thing to happen to the internet since Google and porn. While 360 users are staring at a list of arcade games to play with their invisible friends, PS3 users will be sharing anything they want on their 60 or 20gb HDD (or more considering they can be replaced by a standard HDD bought from a store, or linked up to an external HDD) and trying to choose who to play in which arcade games on display in their virtual arcade room set with whatever arcade games or bar games they wish to put in it.
I love how arguments like "IPTV will own everything" pop up, when Sony clearly tackled that aspect by introducing a virtual movie theater complete with trailers and full fledged movies. Achievments? How about having a whole room devoted to it where people can easy walk through and see what you did in what games. Don't even get me started on clan support....and areas of PS-Home devoted to what developers for certain games want in their space.
Sony basically took the best of what 360's Live had to offer, the best of what Nintendo's online networking had to offer (basically Miis) and made it 5x better. Hopefully they just implement it the right way....
Bgrngod
ps home offers more then live and its free.Â
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"] How exactly is it 5x better? Statements like that are why people sound stupid when talking about PSHome vs. Live. You haven't even used PSH and I am guessing you have never used XBL if you think that PSHome has the best of what XBL has to offer.playstationhome
ps home offers more then live and its free.Â
Tell me what "more" it offers. Other then 3D lobbies I haven't seen anything that puts PSHome as offering more then XBL.Would 14 cents a day really be so painful after buying a $500 - $600 console?
Okay, I'ma settle the argument right here.
Home is cool.
It's free, and it's 100% optional, so you can still do voice-chat and the join online games without joining Home. Home is like an extra feature on a DVD. They're not needed, yet some people still think they're a really important part of a DVD.
It's an interesting feature. It's not going to push consoles, but it will make people look at Playstation online in a better light.
It's not a copy, it's not a clone.
It's not the greatest thing ever, it's not the worst thing ever.
There.
Xbox Live is something that is incredibly well rounded in just about every aspect and it will keep getting better. About the only gripe that people can actually come up with against it is paying $50/1 year to play. Just goes to show how well implemented the online is. As for PSH...well, about the only thing that it has on Xbox Live is that its' social area is in 3D (ala. Second Life). Other than that it's essentially the same thing except free.
There are things that are missing in PSH that are on XBL though. No unified friends list on PSH (something XBL has had since the Xbox first got XBL), no background downloading, recent players list isn't present, and the PSH is kind of unified but not really totally unified as an online service as XBL is. For example, you can't jump straight into another persons game (on XBL you can actually jump into anyone on the recent players list game as well as people on your friends list). These, among other things. All depends on perception i suppose. Some people are really just against paying to play online (regardless of how seamless the service is). Obviously 6+ million people are paying for XBL (the current userbase of XBL) so the majority of owners think it's a worthwhile price considering $50/1 year is pretty much nothing for most people. People on this forum will try and tell you otherwise however. Ironically enough, the people that whine about the price of XBL are people that, for the most part, have PS3's and spent $600 on the PS3 and/or have multiple consoles. Seeing that only shows these people as hypocrites.
nicely put.Okay, I'ma settle the argument right here.
Home is cool.
It's free, and it's 100% optional, so you can still do voice-chat and the join online games without joining Home. Home is like an extra feature on a DVD. They're not needed, yet some people still think they're a really important part of a DVD.
It's an interesting feature. It's not going to push consoles, but it will make people look at Playstation online in a better light.
It's not a copy, it's not a clone.
It's not the greatest thing ever, it's not the worst thing ever.
There.
topcatyo
[QUOTE="topcatyo"]nicely put.Okay, I'ma settle the argument right here.
Home is cool.
It's free, and it's 100% optional, so you can still do voice-chat and the join online games without joining Home. Home is like an extra feature on a DVD. They're not needed, yet some people still think they're a really important part of a DVD.
It's an interesting feature. It's not going to push consoles, but it will make people look at Playstation online in a better light.
It's not a copy, it's not a clone.
It's not the greatest thing ever, it's not the worst thing ever.
There.
2largeadults
Thanks.
an achievement system is all fine and dandy but i think its a little too late to be implementing it now, Sony should be more focused on getting more games on their system instead of dumb stuff like this. But who knows it might be a hit but this isnt gonna bring Sony anywhere up in my bookYou'd think you'd be into it. I mean you've only wasted 2194 hours of your life on WOW.
MASTERCHIEFUSMA
[QUOTE="Sooshy"]Sheep have to admit that it makes the whole Mii avatar thing look weak.HeedleGlavinAgain. It's Sims Online with a different name, and a $600 pricetag. :|
But I am saying:
"Wow, FFXIII, MGSIV, GT5, GTAIV, WKS, Singstar, Eyetoy, LBP + free online + Blu ray + Sixaxis + Very strong 3rd party support + New original series like Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Uncharted + PSHome has allowed Sony to be in a position to once again dominate the console war".
the-very-best
So what exactly has home changed?
cakeorrdeath
[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]
So what exactly has home changed?
the-very-best
GTAIV, GT5, Madden 07, Burnout 5, Motorstorm = Great for casuals. Singstar, Eyetoy, Little Big Planet, Sims = Great for non gamers. Looks better without Myspace in the equation.....
It's a great new, free feature that is sure to appeal to casuals and non gamers worldwide. Think about it:
PSHome (3D Myspace) + GTAIV, GT5, Madden 07, Burnout 5, Motorstorm = Great for casuals.
PSHome (3D Myspace) + Singstar, Eyetoy, Little Big Planet, Sims = Great for non gamers.
I think it's going to create a very nice sense of community in the Playstation world and it's just another strong way to strengthen Sony's brand name.
People are saying PSHome isn't going to get consumers, and they're absolutely right. PSHome alone won't.
When added to the games I mentioned PSHome will.
the-very-best
^^
I think home is great, I just don't think it will influence sales much at all.
I don't understand how does it appeal to non gamers?
cakeorrdeath
How does it appeal to non gamers?
Like I said before, customization is big worldwide. PSHome will appeal to non gamers the same way The Sims does. Or Nintendogs. Or Pokemon. Know what I mean or am I not making much sense..? I think Sony will advertise it very well to. It's a fantastic feature. I'm really glad to see Sony doing things like this.
the-very-best
[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]^^
I think home is great, I just don't think it will influence sales much at all.
I don't understand how does it appeal to non gamers?
the-very-best
But the customisation comes either from spending money or playing real games, neither of which your non gamer is going to be prepared to do. Added to that as a stand alone system it's not going to have anywhere near the levels of something like the sims in terms of creative freedoms.
Also how is pokemon a non gamer's title?
cakeorrdeath
See, I think that's what we need to be careful about though. We're still not gonna know exactly how deep the customization will be for a while, or if microtransactions will have a significant impact on the customization. The actual program might be free, but again, we won't know the details for a while. Blue-Sphere
Not all of the things in Home cost money though. You can customize many parts without paying anything although there are options to get more unlocked if you pay more (you don't actually need to though).
the-very-best
What do you mean a non gamer is not prepared to play real games?
the-very-best
I know PSHome isn't going to be exactly like the Sims but there's nothing wrong with Sony creating an online community for the Playstation and that's what they're doing. I really don't see what we're arguing about, it's a great feature.
the-very-best
The amount of customisation without spending money or unlocking things from games is obviously going to be very limited. How else are they going to persuade you to spend money on additional stuff?cakeorrdeath
 I just don't see what appeal it has to non gamers.
cakeorrdeath
there are finally other topics than Home being made no need for this to be stickied anymore.....Omni-Slash
there are finally other topics than Home being made no need for this to be stickied anymore.....Omni-SlashPersonally, I think a bit too soon. Still your world, your rules.
I agree there will be limitations. Have you ever played one version of The Sims (You probably have so I'm just going to use my example)? You know when you start the game and you get to create your character/home...there are plenty of options for clothing/hair/face but there are plenty locked as well (as in you have to play the game to unlock them). I think Home will be like that. Plenty unlocked, but plenty locked for those who want more.
the-very-best
Why not? Customization is huge! That's why Sims/Myspace are so popular! PSHome is basically 3D Myspace or Sims Online (with a few added features here and there).
the-very-best
Big difference. The Sims comes with cheat codes that let people un lock everything immediately and even if they don't use that the extra stuff is unlocked by playing the game not some other game or buying each tiny item individually for real money. Plus I really think outside of face and body customisation what are start off with will be very very limited.cakeorrdeath
The people who use Myspace or play the sims didn't buy there PC's in order to use those features. They bought them for work and found that they liked doing these other things. No one is going to go out and by a PS3 just to use Home. Even if the system was $300
cakeorrdeath
LBP
the-very-best
Sony improved their online from 'bad' to 'not that great'...oh wait, its not even out yet, its still bad.
[QUOTE="the-very-best"]LBP
cakeorrdeath
[QUOTE="the-very-best"]LBP
cakeorrdeath
It's not like you HAVE to put effort into The Sims. I just kill my Sims like the psycho I am! And that doesn't take much effort!
It's not like you HAVE to put effort into The Sims. I just kill my Sims like the psycho I am! And that doesn't take much effort!CJL13
The most stupidest thing ever....You didnt watch the video did you? You dont have to walk. You can if you want, hit a button and go immediately where you want to, or do what you want to.
Walk to a cinema to download a movie...
Why not do that in real life?
Thats just dumb... if i watnt to download a movie fast and i dont wanna walk or run in a virtual world and then get it...
it should just like 4 or 5 clicks of a button then u can download the movie...
I dunno bout u guys but this is dumb...
i think the joining party to play a game is good though...
i dunnno lez c if this can overthrow Live..
shank08
The most stupidest thing ever....
Thats just dumb... if i watnt to download a movie fast and i dont wanna walk or run in a virtual world and then get it...
I dunno bout u guys but this is dumb...
i dunnno lez c if this can overthrow Live..
shank08
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