Metroid Prime 4

Metroid Prime 4 thread, read I.

By charizard1605, I noticed.

And it was just him talking the possibility of such a game.

WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!?!? :cry:

And like DarkLink said: another crack at the IP by Team Ninja'd be real nice. Other M was great.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Sakamoto only supervised Prime. Just because he was involved with the series doesn't mean the games were good because of his input.forgot_it

http://www.webcitation.org/5zbF1Z8uq

I think my involvement with Metroid Prime II is like my involvement with the first one - I am advising them as to what kind of flavour they have to adhere to, and the kind of storylines possible - Retro Studios comse up with the story and I say: "Yes, it's the kind of story that's consistent with previous Metroid games" or else: "No, it's got to be changed like this".

Of course, whenever Retro is working on the Metroid games I need to supervise; I'm the person who receives the reports, to find out what's going on and how the title is progressing.

I'm more involved in the GBA version of the next Metroid game, Metroid Zero Mission - in the past game we put emphasis on the storyline, but in Zero Mission I want the game to go back to the basics.

More emphasis on the gameplay, exploration, riddle-solving by action, etc. I am asking each individual artist and designer now to come up with many ideas, and I'm going to use that to set certain goals for Metroid Zero MissionSakamoto

I don't see how that applies to what I said.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Pretty sure Super Metroid was good because of his input.

Pretty sure the Prime games were good because of Super Metroid.

FrozenLiquid

Yeah they are. And it's my opinion anyway so you can't say anything about it, right? :)

I don't see how that applies to what I said.

Cherokee_Jack

The prime games are nothing like super metroid. Advid-Gamer

I don't really care to see another Metroid Prime game.

Metroid Prime 3 was an awesome game but you could tell that Retro was running out of ideas for Metroid in first person, so I'm glad they stopped there and development on the series shifted back to Yoshio Sakamoto. I know a lot of people don't like Other M but I actually really liked it for what it was. I was expecting a Super Metroid type game but I got an action game. Based on my expectations, I was disappointed in Other M, but once I played it with my expectations put aside, I enjoyed what the Project M team set out to accomplish.

The only really big problem I have with Metroid: Other M was that it was holding your hand way too much. It tells you where to go and how to get there, where as Metroid Fusion found a perfect balance of telling you where to go next but not telling you what path you need to take. The combat in Other M is the best of any of the 2D Metroid games, its fun and works well.

So rather than a forth installment of a first person Metroid, I'd rather see something more like what Metroid Fusion was, with Other M's combat of sorts.

[QUOTE="forgot_it"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

http://www.webcitation.org/5zbF1Z8uq

[QUOTE="Sakamoto"]I think my involvement with Metroid Prime II is like my involvement with the first one - I am advising them as to what kind of flavour they have to adhere to, and the kind of storylines possible - Retro Studios comse up with the story and I say: "Yes, it's the kind of story that's consistent with previous Metroid games" or else: "No, it's got to be changed like this".

Of course, whenever Retro is working on the Metroid games I need to supervise; I'm the person who receives the reports, to find out what's going on and how the title is progressing.

I'm more involved in the GBA version of the next Metroid game, Metroid Zero Mission - in the past game we put emphasis on the storyline, but in Zero Mission I want the game to go back to the basics.

More emphasis on the gameplay, exploration, riddle-solving by action, etc. I am asking each individual artist and designer now to come up with many ideas, and I'm going to use that to set certain goals for Metroid Zero MissionCherokee_Jack

I don't see how that applies to what I said.

The citation tells you exactly what Sakamoto was doing for the Prime series, and it sounds like all the praised aspects were influenced by him to an extent.

To be fair, I haven't played Other M but its story looks terrible.Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]To be fair, I haven't played Other M but its story looks terrible.foxhound_fox

MP4 for 3DS could prove VERY interesting.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I think it's more due to franchise growing pains than anything else. They're actually trying to tell a story and develop characters now, which apparently the fans hate.DarkLink77

I think this is the biggest point of contention with hardcore fans. I actually think the storyteling in Other M is utterly terrible, but fun to watch in a cornball kind of way. I'm not sure if uber Samus fans appreciated receiving her character in that manner.

I also have a hunch they hated the sentimentalism.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

I don't see how that applies to what I said.

forgot_it

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]You act like Nintendo's never told a good story before. :P What were the translation issues?foxhound_fox

You're not the only one, foxhound. I thought her characterization was good, just a bit too hammered in and redundant. I'm certainly not against another Metroid with this newly established characterization.

Metroid Prime 4 thread, read I.

By charizard1605, I noticed.

And it was just him talking the possibility of such a game.

WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!?!? :cry:

And like DarkLink said: another crack at the IP by Team Ninja'd be real nice. Other M was great.

mmmwksil

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Metroid Prime 4 thread, read I.

By charizard1605, I noticed.

And it was just him talking the possibility of such a game.

WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!?!? :cry:

And like DarkLink said: another crack at the IP by Team Ninja'd be real nice. Other M was great.

charizard1605

B-B-But!!! That's like the anchorman talking about "news" while still on the air! People will think it's happened! :o

But if there ever is a MP4, let it go back to the MP1 style. No interactions with other people; just our lone heroine with a planet full of nasties out to eat her.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Metroid Prime 4 thread, read I.

By charizard1605, I noticed.

And it was just him talking the possibility of such a game.

WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!?!? :cry:

And like DarkLink said: another crack at the IP by Team Ninja'd be real nice. Other M was great.

mmmwksil

B-B-But!!! That's like the anchorman talking about "news" while still on the air! People will think it's happened! :o

But if there ever is a MP4, let it go back to the MP1 style. No interactions with other people; just our lone heroine with a planet full of nasties out to eat her.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Nintendo gave Sakamoto in charge of being Nintendo Japan's supervisor for Metroid Prime 3, and it was considered the weakest of the trilogy because of his interference and generally misguided ideas about the Metroid franchise. Then, they let him produce Metroid Other M, and at least half the fanbase hated it and wanted him gone.forgot_it

Miyamoto was the Nintendo Japan producer for the first two games, and many speculate that Sakamoto was resentful of it since Miyamoto was not part of the original Metroid team, and Sakamoto felt that he should have been given Miyamoto's position since he was one of the artists who worked on the first game and directed Super Metroid (but I reiterate, he was not the producer). Thus, when Miyamoto stepped back, Sakamoto stepped in and set about trying to put his own stamp on the Metroid franchise and distancing it from Miyamoto's contributions, and by extension, Retro's. When Nintendo actually gave Sakamoto the greenlight to produce and direct a Metroid game for consoles, he gave us Other M, and much fanrage ensued.

Maybe that was the plan :twisted: Or like Metroid Prime 2. I honestly think 2 nailed the atmosphere and the cIassic Metroid feel better than 1, although I think one was more cohesive and consistent than 2 overall.charizard1605

Ehh... I didn't much like 2 :|

I mean, it was more of the same, but at the same time, it felt like a terrible retread. I swear that might've been the first time I've ever experienced that feeling when playing games. Something about MP2 just didn't sit well with me, and despite several attempts to get through the game, I couldn't. I just couldn't.

Will admit I loved the locales of MP2. The Torvus Bog (I think that was the name?) had a hair-raising feel about it, and should've been included as part of the Tallon Overworld in MP1.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Maybe that was the plan :twisted: Or like Metroid Prime 2. I honestly think 2 nailed the atmosphere and the cIassic Metroid feel better than 1, although I think one was more cohesive and consistent than 2 overall.mmmwksil

Ehh... I didn't much like 2 :|

I mean, it was more of the same, but at the same time, it felt like a terrible retread. I swear that might've been the first time I've ever experienced that feeling when playing games. Something about MP2 just didn't sit well with me, and despite several attempts to get through the game, I couldn't. I just couldn't.

Will admit I loved the locales of MP2. The Torvus Bog (I think that was the name?) had a hair-raising feel about it, and should've been included as part of the Tallon Overworld in MP1.

I came into this thread thinking there was an announcement,but alas I am disappointed.Metroid Prime 4 would be awesome though.

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Maybe that was the plan :twisted: Or like Metroid Prime 2. I honestly think 2 nailed the atmosphere and the cIassic Metroid feel better than 1, although I think one was more cohesive and consistent than 2 overall.charizard1605

Ehh... I didn't much like 2 :|

I mean, it was more of the same, but at the same time, it felt like a terrible retread. I swear that might've been the first time I've ever experienced that feeling when playing games. Something about MP2 just didn't sit well with me, and despite several attempts to get through the game, I couldn't. I just couldn't.

Will admit I loved the locales of MP2. The Torvus Bog (I think that was the name?) had a hair-raising feel about it, and should've been included as part of the Tallon Overworld in MP1.

I played MP3 prior to Other M (it was in the month or so leading up to Other M's release), and didn't much like that one either. That retread feeling was still there for me. Much as I loved MP1 (among my favorite games ever), neither MP3 or MP2 stuck. I tried both almost back to back following MP1, as well. I'm a lost cause when it comes to the sequels :P

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Ehh... I didn't much like 2 :|

I mean, it was more of the same, but at the same time, it felt like a terrible retread. I swear that might've been the first time I've ever experienced that feeling when playing games. Something about MP2 just didn't sit well with me, and despite several attempts to get through the game, I couldn't. I just couldn't.

Will admit I loved the locales of MP2. The Torvus Bog (I think that was the name?) had a hair-raising feel about it, and should've been included as part of the Tallon Overworld in MP1.

mmmwksil

I played MP3 prior to Other M (it was in the month or so leading up to Other M's release), and didn't much like that one either. That retread feeling was still there for me. Much as I loved MP1 (among my favorite games ever), neither MP3 or MP2 stuck. I tried both almost back to back following MP1, as well. I'm a lost cause when it comes to the sequels :P

I'm sorry you didn't like them. Prime 3 was kind of lame compared to the other two, but Prime 2 is incredible. Maybe a Prime 4 will change your mind about sequels? :Pcharizard1605

I'm open to sequels :o Just not Metroid Prime sequels :lol:

Wouldn't mind Metroid: Another M, though. C'MON NINTENDO & TEAM NINJA!!! :x

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]I'm sorry you didn't like them. Prime 3 was kind of lame compared to the other two, but Prime 2 is incredible. Maybe a Prime 4 will change your mind about sequels? :Pmmmwksil

I'm open to sequels :o Just not Metroid Prime sequels :lol:

Wouldn't mind Metroid: Another M, though. C'MON NINTENDO & TEAM NINJA!!! :x

for now, all I want is a new 2d side scrolling metroid, as we havent seen one since the gba.

but I certainly wouldn't mind a new 1st person metroid, but it wouldn't be Prime, since the prime series has ended with the conclusion of prime 3.

I'm also open to another other M type metroid as long as some of the problems it had were rectified.

...basically, I want a new metroid and I don't care what perspective it's in, as long as it's good.

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]I'm sorry you didn't like them. Prime 3 was kind of lame compared to the other two, but Prime 2 is incredible. Maybe a Prime 4 will change your mind about sequels? :Pcharizard1605

I'm open to sequels :o Just not Metroid Prime sequels :lol:

Wouldn't mind Metroid: Another M, though. C'MON NINTENDO & TEAM NINJA!!! :x

I opened this thread thinking it was in development. :(

:x Shame on you Charizard!

:P

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

I'm open to sequels :o Just not Metroid Prime sequels :lol:

Wouldn't mind Metroid: Another M, though. C'MON NINTENDO & TEAM NINJA!!! :x

DarkLink77

Come now, DL. You KNOW you'd be there on day one to pick up a game titled Metroid: Another M.

I opened this thread thinking it was in development. :(

:x Shame on you Charizard!

:P

theuncharted34

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Argh, okay, maybe Prime 4 will change your mind about Metroid Prime sequels then. :x And Metroid: Another M would be an epic name for a sequel to Other M :lol:mmmwksil

Come now, DL. You KNOW you'd be there on day one to pick up a game titled Metroid: Another M.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I opened this thread thinking it was in development. :(

:x Shame on you Charizard!

:P

charizard1605

All right, I will. :P

[spoiler] Not :evil: [/spoiler]

Truth be told, I want Retro to do something else. Namely a sequel to DK 64.

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Another M. :lol: Just when you thought it was safe to get back into Metroid. :oDarkLink77

Come now, DL. You KNOW you'd be there on day one to pick up a game titled Metroid: Another M.

You haven't, but I've heard it from one or two others. ;)

I work hard to make them funny, so I'm happy when people enjoy them. :)

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Come now, DL. You KNOW you'd be there on day one to pick up a game titled Metroid: Another M.

mmmwksil

You haven't, but I've heard it from one or two others. ;)

I work hard to make them funny, so I'm happy when people enjoy them. :)

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

I got excited and thought Ninty announced a Metroid Prime 4 or something. :[

:P

super600

I thought the same thing too.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I opened this thread thinking it was in development. :(

:x Shame on you Charizard!

:P

theuncharted34

All right, I will. :P

Truth be told, I want Retro to do something else. Namely a sequel to DK 64.

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I totally would. By the way, have I told you how much I love your sigs?DarkLink77

You haven't, but I've heard it from one or two others. ;)

I work hard to make them funny, so I'm happy when people enjoy them. :)

Enlighten me :o I've just been changing them manually every morning!!

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

You haven't, but I've heard it from one or two others. ;)

I work hard to make them funny, so I'm happy when people enjoy them. :)

mmmwksil

Enlighten me :o I've just been changing them manually every morning!!

http://sig.grumpybumpers.com

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Oh, get over it, all of you :evil: :Pcharizard1605

All right, I will. :P

Truth be told, I want Retro to do something else. Namely a sequel to DK 64.

Star fox is probably dead now, sadly. At least for a long time.

Maybe F-Zero is too for all I know. GX kind of bombed at retail, it seems Ninty doesn't want to take risks with those franchises anymore.

If anything a new F-Zero is more likely, since it's been much longer since the last F-Zero game.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

All right, I will. :P

Truth be told, I want Retro to do something else. Namely a sequel to DK 64.

theuncharted34

Star fox is probably dead now, sadly. At least for a long time.

Maybe F-Zero is too for all I know. GX kind of bombed at retail, it seems Ninty doesn't want to take risks with those franchises anymore.

If anything a new F-Zero is more likely, since it's been much longer since the last F-Zero game.

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Another M. :lol: Just when you thought it was safe to get back into Metroid. :oDarkLink77

Come now, DL. You KNOW you'd be there on day one to pick up a game titled Metroid: Another M.

Anyways I think it would be nice to see Metroid Prime 4. Won't be looking forward to it as much as I did 3 considering how it turned out though.

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You should get a sig rotater for them all! :oDarkLink77

Enlighten me :o I've just been changing them manually every morning!!

http://sig.grumpybumpers.com

Thanks for that, DL! I'm currently field testing it as we speak... but I'm only getting one image on my end. Let me poke around some more...