Metroid Prime 4

Metroid never was about combat.charizard1605

I came here thinking that Nintendo was making a Prime game for the Wii U as a launch title, that would make me buy a Wii U. Thats for sure.

I really like Metroid games and if they make new one 2D/3D style(after the end of Fusion) on the 3DS........i will buy a 3DS just for that.Can you believe this...??lolAtariKidX

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Metroid never was about combat.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Metroid never was about combat.foxhound_fox

Or To say Metroid is "not about combat" is like saying Grand Theft Auto isnt about organized crime.

And I agree, even though Metroid The Other M was no where as good as Metroid Prime, it was still really good. All they have to do is fix a few problems and the game would be almost as great as Metroid Prime (all of them).

i think the perfect evolution in metroid, imo, is in 3rd person i hope someone doesitright

I enjoyed both Metroid Prime and Metroid Other M. So whichever direction the next installment goes I'm pretty much fine with it. I love Metroid.

Think about it for a minute- when did Metroid actually go out of its way to make combat particularly engaging?charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Metroid never was about combat.foxhound_fox

Undoubtedly, I believe that Metroid Prime (and its lesser known sequel Metroid Prime 2) are among the greatest games ever created. The first person immersion is immaculate, the level design demonstrates a cohesiveness that has never since been replicated, the music and sound effects are both simply chilling, the graphics are timeless, and the gameplay structure and controls are spot on perfect. Moreover, the game's excellent, non traditional method of storytelling without breaking you out of the game is genius too.

Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 were incredible games, true blue hardcore games, that from Nintendo were a statement of intent that they too could make incredible hardcore games if they wanted too. Whereas Prime 3 was a bit of a disappointment, I still long for a Retro Studios developed Metroid Prime 4. Maybe one as a launch title for the Wii U? It certainly would sell an incredible amount of systems (remember that Prime was one of the highest selling games on the Gamecube), and it might be the only thing that can revive Metroid after last year's attrocious Other M destroyed everything about it that we hold dear.

What do you guys think?

charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I'd rather have Team Ninja make another one. Other M's faultw were largely not their fault.

DarkLink77

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Mario1331

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

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charizard1605

because thats what we are all waiting for lol

I'd rather have Team Ninja make another one. Other M's faults were largely not their fault.

DarkLink77

I remember when fans were saying that Metroid Prime series was better than Halo series lol.
The third one was bit of a flop to be honest.

The first one was the only decent one. Most likely there will be another one.

I remember when fans were saying that Metroid Prime series was better than Halo series lol.
The third one was bit of a flop to be honest.

The first one was the only decent one. Most likely there will be another one.

g0ddyX

Other m was horrible, no way to team ninja. Yes it was there fault Advid-Gamer

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The gameplay was good, brah. DarkLink77

No, they can hold Metroid Prime 4 or Super Metroid 2. They've aced those designs already.

Make Metroid: Other M 2. That would be frickin' brilliant :D

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

I remember when fans were saying that Metroid Prime series was better than Halo series lol.
The third one was bit of a flop to be honest.

The first one was the only decent one. Most likely there will be another one.

charizard1605

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]Other m was horrible, no way to team ninja. Yes it was there fault foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]Other m was horrible, no way to team ninja. Yes it was there fault foxhound_fox

Itagaki leaving before the game was finished was the source of NGII's problems. Sigma 2 is less cheap, but more bland.

What's this whole Sakamoto and Other M controversy anyway?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]Other m was horrible, no way to team ninja. Yes it was there fault Advid-Gamer

It's not really all opinion. Other M is factually a good game. Whether you appreciate the merits of this game is an entirely different story.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] No it wasn't. It wasn't up there with the bests in the series... but it was better than Hunters and Return of Samus. And it was Sakamoto's decisions that saw to Other M's problems. Much like how it was Itagaki's decisions that saw to Ninja Gaiden II's problems. Team Ninja can shine when given the chance (I hear Sigma II is am incredible improvement on NGII). And the three fan-service boss fights were amazing.FrozenLiquid

It's not really all opinion. Other M is factually a good game. Whether you appreciate the merits of this game is an entirely different story.

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

I remember when fans were saying that Metroid Prime series was better than Halo series lol.
The third one was bit of a flop to be honest.

The first one was the only decent one. Most likely there will be another one.

charizard1605

Nah. Metroid Prime 1 is probably the best game of the lot, but as a series, Halo is better, largely due to its breakthroughs in multiplayer.

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

I remember when fans were saying that Metroid Prime series was better than Halo series lol.
The third one was bit of a flop to be honest.

The first one was the only decent one. Most likely there will be another one.

charizard1605

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]Other m was horrible, no way to team ninja. Yes it was there fault foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] It dosent matter its all opinion, I was a huge metroid fan, hated other m. No point in arguing, but alot of fans were not happy with other mAdvid-Gamer

It's not really all opinion. Other M is factually a good game. Whether you appreciate the merits of this game is an entirely different story.

Nope. I know how lucrative that idea is, but please, this whole idea of 'everything is opinion' gives smart people a headache.

Aristotle sealed critical thinking several thousand years ago. Let's not regress, okay?

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] No it wasn't. It wasn't up there with the bests in the series... but it was better than Hunters and Return of Samus. And it was Sakamoto's decisions that saw to Other M's problems. Much like how it was Itagaki's decisions that saw to Ninja Gaiden II's problems. Team Ninja can shine when given the chance (I hear Sigma II is am incredible improvement on NGII). And the three fan-service boss fights were amazing.FrozenLiquid

It's not really all opinion. Other M is factually a good game. Whether you appreciate the merits of this game is an entirely different story.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]Other m was horrible, no way to team ninja. Yes it was there fault DarkLink77

And to be honest, I don't know how people can like the Sigma series (yes, I'm fully aware I have the sig). It honestly feels..... off. It's like watching Chris Brown trying to imitate Michael Jackson.

I can't wait for Devil's Third :twisted:

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

It's not really all opinion. Other M is factually a good game. Whether you appreciate the merits of this game is an entirely different story.

FrozenLiquid

Nope. I know how lucrative that idea is, but please, this whole idea of 'everything is opinion' gives smart people a headache.

Aristotle sealed critical thinking several thousand years ago. Let's not regress, okay?

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] No it wasn't. It wasn't up there with the bests in the series... but it was better than Hunters and Return of Samus. And it was Sakamoto's decisions that saw to Other M's problems. Much like how it was Itagaki's decisions that saw to Ninja Gaiden II's problems. Team Ninja can shine when given the chance (I hear Sigma II is am incredible improvement on NGII). And the three fan-service boss fights were amazing.FrozenLiquid

And to be honest, I don't know how people can like the Sigma series (yes, I'm fully aware I have the sig). It honestly feels..... off. It's like watching Chris Brown trying to imitate Michael Jackson.

I can't wait for Devil's Third :twisted:

Nintendo gave Sakamoto in charge of being Nintendo Japan's supervisor for Metroid Prime 3, and it was considered the weakest of the trilogy because of his interference and generally misguided ideas about the Metroid franchise. Then, they let him produce Metroid Other M, and at least half the fanbase hated it and wanted him gone.Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Nintendo gave Sakamoto in charge of being Nintendo Japan's supervisor for Metroid Prime 3, and it was considered the weakest of the trilogy because of his interference and generally misguided ideas about the Metroid franchise. Then, they let him produce Metroid Other M, and at least half the fanbase hated it and wanted him gone.forgot_it

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] It dosent matter its all opinion, I was a huge metroid fan, hated other m. No point in arguing, but alot of fans were not happy with other mTimstuff

It's not really all opinion. Other M is factually a good game. Whether you appreciate the merits of this game is an entirely different story.

After two games, they want him gone? I thought creating Super Metroid would have given him pardon several times over before he is justifiably booted.

In any case, I haven't played Prime 3 yet, but if he's producing games as good as they have been, I say keep him on. Other M was super refreshing, even if it wasn't on par with what he did with Super Metroid.

[QUOTE="forgot_it"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]Nintendo gave Sakamoto in charge of being Nintendo Japan's supervisor for Metroid Prime 3, and it was considered the weakest of the trilogy because of his interference and generally misguided ideas about the Metroid franchise. Then, they let him produce Metroid Other M, and at least half the fanbase hated it and wanted him gone.DarkLink77

If I were given a dollar for everytime I point out the source of all the problems was due to whiny internet fanboys, I'd have a beautiful nest egg :)

[QUOTE="forgot_it"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]Nintendo gave Sakamoto in charge of being Nintendo Japan's supervisor for Metroid Prime 3, and it was considered the weakest of the trilogy because of his interference and generally misguided ideas about the Metroid franchise. Then, they let him produce Metroid Other M, and at least half the fanbase hated it and wanted him gone.DarkLink77

MP1 and MP2 are both amazing. it's really incredible how well the graphics hold up to this day. (no that's not the only reason their good, just a point I wanted to make)

However 3 was really disappointing and i dont know if Retro would be able to make a prime game that could match the 1st two so idk whether or not I'd want MP4. I'd like to see a 3d donkey kong game like Super Mario Galaxy, so maybe Retro will do tht as a follow up to DKC returns.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="forgot_it"]Sakamoto supervised all of the Prime games and directed Super, Fusion and Zero Mission.Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="forgot_it"]Sakamoto supervised all of the Prime games and directed Super, Fusion and Zero Mission.Cherokee_Jack

Pretty sure Super Metroid was good because of his input.

Pretty sure the Prime games were good because of Super Metroid.

Sakamoto supervised all of the Prime games and directed Super, Fusion and Zero Mission.forgot_it

Sakamoto only supervised Prime. Just because he was involved with the series doesn't mean the games were good because of his input.Cherokee_Jack

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I think my involvement with Metroid Prime II is like my involvement with the first one - I am advising them as to what kind of flavour they have to adhere to, and the kind of storylines possible - Retro Studios comse up with the story and I say: "Yes, it's the kind of story that's consistent with previous Metroid games" or else: "No, it's got to be changed like this".

Of course, whenever Retro is working on the Metroid games I need to supervise; I'm the person who receives the reports, to find out what's going on and how the title is progressing.

I'm more involved in the GBA version of the next Metroid game, Metroid Zero Mission - in the past game we put emphasis on the storyline, but in Zero Mission I want the game to go back to the basics.

More emphasis on the gameplay, exploration, riddle-solving by action, etc. I am asking each individual artist and designer now to come up with many ideas, and I'm going to use that to set certain goals for Metroid Zero MissionSakamoto

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] And the "Sakamoto is evil" argument flies right out the window.FrozenLiquid

Pretty sure Super Metroid was good because of his input.

Pretty sure the Prime games were good because of Super Metroid.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Sakamoto only supervised Prime. Just because he was involved with the series doesn't mean the games were good because of his input.Advid-Gamer

Pretty sure Super Metroid was good because of his input.

Pretty sure the Prime games were good because of Super Metroid.

Yeah they are. And it's my opinion anyway so you can't say anything about it, right? :)

[QUOTE="forgot_it"]Sakamoto supervised all of the Prime games and directed Super, Fusion and Zero Mission.foxhound_fox

Within two games (I'm guessing Prime 3 and Other M), he's lost it all, and implicitly can never have it back?

That seems a little absurd to me. I think a lot of people are using him as a scapegoat, to be perfectly honest.