Mass Effect 1 flopped. so are we hyping 2 as a AAA game?

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] yes mlb 09 is exclusiveGrilledCharlie

In System Wars, no it is not. It has already been decided in a very long thread.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Wait but you do realize halo Combat evolved on PC came out two years laters? It pushed the systems neededAnimal-Mother

Thats nice, point still stands, microsoft is concerned about pushing their systems out & securing exclusives for the 360. it doesnt matter that you can get them on PC what matters is that sony & nintendo can't get their hands on them. it maybe leaving PC out but eh when PC jumps into the console war you let me know.

PC is a home console ? since when ? =D, people sit around predicting when Dell 3995 will release ? lol

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] yes mlb 09 is exclusiveGrilledCharlie

In System Wars, no it is not. It has already been decided in a very long thread.

this is not console wars. this is not company wars. this is system wars. the pc counts as much as any other system here. the pc is not the 360. if a game is on the pc and the 360 but not the ps3, the game is still a multiplat. it doesn't get any more logical than that.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Thats nice, point still stands, microsoft is concerned about pushing their systems out & securing exclusives for the 360. it doesnt matter that you can get them on PC what matters is that sony & nintendo can't get their hands on them. it maybe leaving PC out but eh when PC jumps into the console war you let me know.

Euroshinobi

PC is a home console ? since when ? =D, people sit around predicting when Dell 3995 will release ? lol

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] yes mlb 09 is exclusiveGrilledCharlie

In System Wars, no it is not. It has already been decided in a very long thread.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as I know Microsoft receives no compensation for software sold that uses the Windows platform. It is simply an OS that MS has a stranglehold on the market.

MLB 09 is on PS3, PS2 and PSP. 3 seperate systems. Therefore no exclusivity in System Wars.

It's pointless arguing this with me. It won't change.

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

In System Wars, no it is not. It has already been decided in a very long thread.

CaseyWegner

this is not console wars. this is not company wars. this is system wars. the pc counts as much as any other system here. the pc is not the 360. if a game is on the pc and the 360 but not the ps3, the game is still a multiplat. it doesn't get any more logical than that.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] wait but see that doesn't matter. Despite those systems dont get their hands on them The PC does. Ohh the PC isn't part of the console war now? Your changing rules to benefit your standing. I have question. If you have a girlfriend and shes seeing you and someone else on the side. Is she exclusivily your girlfriend?Animal-Mother

PC is a home console ? since when ? =D, people sit around predicting when Dell 3995 will release ? lol

Majority over the few, everytime.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

PC is a home console ? since when ? =D, people sit around predicting when Dell 3995 will release ? lol

Euroshinobi

Majority over the few, everytime.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] No but your missing the point. It plays games and thats enough to disproves your point. But please My question can you please answer it?Animal-Mother

Majority over the few, everytime.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Majority over the few, everytime.

xbox360isgr8t

I'm sorry what ?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is one one console and not on any other, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

Euroshinobi

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title No they dont

Yes they do

http://www.unscripted360.com/2009/03/17/mass-effect-2-still-xbox-360-exclusive/

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184788

http://play.tm/wire/2519567/mass-effect-2-shepherd-is-alive-and-exclusive-to-xbox360-mass-effect-2/

http://whatifgaming.com/mass-effect-2-will-stay-exclusive-at-least-in-home-console-sense

Moar ?

I'm sorry what ?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title No they dont

Euroshinobi

Yes they do

http://www.unscripted360.com/2009/03/17/mass-effect-2-still-xbox-360-exclusive/

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184788

http://play.tm/wire/2519567/mass-effect-2-shepherd-is-alive-and-exclusive-to-xbox360-mass-effect-2/

http://whatifgaming.com/mass-effect-2-will-stay-exclusive-at-least-in-home-console-sense

Moar ?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Majority over the few, everytime.

xbox360isgr8t

How so because i disagree ?

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Over the few? mass effect is not exclusive. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title I hate to disprove you over and over but you do realize people from the REAL world voted on this. Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

In System Wars, no it is not. It has already been decided in a very long thread.

-Traveller-

Correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as I know Microsoft receives no compensation for software sold that uses the Windows platform. It is simply an OS that MS has a stranglehold on the market.

MLB 09 is on PS3, PS2 and PSP. 3 seperate systems. Therefore no exclusivity in System Wars.

It's pointless arguing this with me. It won't change.

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Over the few? mass effect is not exclusive. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title I hate to disprove you over and over but you do realize people from the REAL world voted on this. Euroshinobi

How so because i disagree ?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

I'm sorry what ?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Yes they do

http://www.unscripted360.com/2009/03/17/mass-effect-2-still-xbox-360-exclusive/

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184788

http://play.tm/wire/2519567/mass-effect-2-shepherd-is-alive-and-exclusive-to-xbox360-mass-effect-2/

http://whatifgaming.com/mass-effect-2-will-stay-exclusive-at-least-in-home-console-sense

Moar ?

Animal-Mother

You didnt. and its fine you disagree, who's upset ? the point i got across is that you can argue that its not an exclusive till your voice goes out, in the console world, not on gamespot because the gaming world is not limited to gamespot, when people talk about console exclusives Mass effect will be brought up, PC is not a console.

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Over the few? mass effect is not exclusive. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title I hate to disprove you over and over but you do realize people from the REAL world voted on this. Euroshinobi

How so because i disagree ?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Euroshinobi

You didnt. and its fine you disagree, who's upset ? the point i got across is that you can argue that its not an exclusive till your voice goes out, in the console world, not on gamespot because the gaming world is not limited to gamespot, when people talk about console exclusives Mass effect will be brought up, PC is not a console.

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Well, I would argue that MLB 09 is exclusive as far as system wars arguments go, because you can play it on PS3 and not on 360. Let's think about this like humans. Let's discuss with logic and common sense instead of stringent guidelines. At the heart of the matter is that windows is Microsoft just like 360 is. They are essentially different markets for the same animal.GrilledCharlie

Correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as I know Microsoft receives no compensation for software sold that uses the Windows platform. It is simply an OS that MS has a stranglehold on the market.

MLB 09 is on PS3, PS2 and PSP. 3 seperate systems. Therefore no exclusivity in System Wars.

It's pointless arguing this with me. It won't change.

Yet you can also play Mass Effect on PC, so that's 2 different systems. Therefore it is multiplat like MLB 09.

You cannot omit a system just to make your point.

I'm sorry what ?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title No they dont

Euroshinobi

Yes they do

http://www.unscripted360.com/2009/03/17/mass-effect-2-still-xbox-360-exclusive/

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184788

http://play.tm/wire/2519567/mass-effect-2-shepherd-is-alive-and-exclusive-to-xbox360-mass-effect-2/

http://whatifgaming.com/mass-effect-2-will-stay-exclusive-at-least-in-home-console-sense

Moar ?

one of those says "exclusive for a short period of time" and another says "at least in the home console sense."

did you actually read what you linked or did you just get all excited at the mere mention of exclusive?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Sites you pulled up AGAIN to help prove your point. Whatever im done, Mass effect is not exclusive. Two different systems. Two different ways of playing. It's nto exclusive here or in the real world. Sorry I upset you so much.

Animal-Mother

You didnt. and its fine you disagree, who's upset ? the point i got across is that you can argue that its not an exclusive till your voice goes out, in the console world, not on gamespot because the gaming world is not limited to gamespot, when people talk about console exclusives Mass effect will be brought up, PC is not a console.

By the definition of the word, indeed it is.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Sites you pulled up AGAIN to help prove your point. Whatever im done, Mass effect is not exclusive. Two different systems. Two different ways of playing. It's nto exclusive here or in the real world. Sorry I upset you so much.

Animal-Mother

You didnt. and its fine you disagree, who's upset ? the point i got across is that you can argue that its not an exclusive till your voice goes out, in the console world, not on gamespot because the gaming world is not limited to gamespot, when people talk about console exclusives Mass effect will be brought up, PC is not a console.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

You didnt. and its fine you disagree, who's upset ? the point i got across is that you can argue that its not an exclusive till your voice goes out, in the console world, not on gamespot because the gaming world is not limited to gamespot, when people talk about console exclusives Mass effect will be brought up, PC is not a console.

Euroshinobi

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

You didnt. and its fine you disagree, who's upset ? the point i got across is that you can argue that its not an exclusive till your voice goes out, in the console world, not on gamespot because the gaming world is not limited to gamespot, when people talk about console exclusives Mass effect will be brought up, PC is not a console.

Euroshinobi

Hmmm, you know this how? You can't know that as a fact. We in fact know that PC is a console in the strictest sense of the word.

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as I know Microsoft receives no compensation for software sold that uses the Windows platform. It is simply an OS that MS has a stranglehold on the market.

MLB 09 is on PS3, PS2 and PSP. 3 seperate systems. Therefore no exclusivity in System Wars.

It's pointless arguing this with me. It won't change.

-Traveller-

Yet you can also play Mass Effect on PC, so that's 2 different systems. Therefore it is multiplat like MLB 09.

You cannot omit a system just to make your point.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] PC is a console.Animal-Mother

I suppose we just drop it, because you're really not changing my mind.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"] Yes but when people say console they're usualy referring to home consoles, kinda like how when people say americans they're reffering to the USA and not all of the americas, when people talk about pc its usualy.....PC

Euroshinobi

I supposed we just drop it, because you're really not changing my mind.

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] We all know this whole argument is to be able to put a list of 360 exclusives and a list of PS3 exclusives side by side and decide who has bragging rights. So, not getting all caught up in specifics and definitions and looking at what this argument is all about, both Mass Effect and MLB 09 would make it on the list, because you can play it on one system and not the other.GrilledCharlie

Yet you can also play Mass Effect on PC, so that's 2 different systems. Therefore it is multiplat like MLB 09.

You cannot omit a system just to make your point.

1. You know this how?

2. You are omitting and skewing facts to suit your purpose.

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] We all know this whole argument is to be able to put a list of 360 exclusives and a list of PS3 exclusives side by side and decide who has bragging rights. So, not getting all caught up in specifics and definitions and looking at what this argument is all about, both Mass Effect and MLB 09 would make it on the list, because you can play it on one system and not the other.GrilledCharlie

Yet you can also play Mass Effect on PC, so that's 2 different systems. Therefore it is multiplat like MLB 09.

You cannot omit a system just to make your point.

this still doesn't explain why you have to ignore a system in order to make your point. didn't you say something about logic and common sense earlier? what happened? :?

So where did i leave off in this thread ?......ah yes PS3 needs a good RPG exclusive like Mass effect.

and i want Jade empire 2 now !

Euroshinobi

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Yet you can also play Mass Effect on PC, so that's 2 different systems. Therefore it is multiplat like MLB 09.

You cannot omit a system just to make your point.

this still doesn't explain why you have to ignore a system in order to make your point. didn't you say something about logic and common sense earlier? what happened? :?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

So where did i leave off in this thread ?......ah yes PS3 needs a good RPG exclusive like Mass effect.

and i want Jade empire 2 now !

Animal-Mother

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

So where did i leave off in this thread ?......ah yes PS3 needs a good RPG exclusive like Mass effect.

and i want Jade empire 2 now !

Euroshinobi

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360, whats PC ? is it a new home console ? its at war with 360,Wii, PS3 ? girl what you talkin' bout.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

So where did i leave off in this thread ?......ah yes PS3 needs a good RPG exclusive like Mass effect.

and i want Jade empire 2 now !

Euroshinobi

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360

Nah, because PC is a home console. It's a console, that you can have in your home. Soooooo...

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Yet you can also play Mass Effect on PC, so that's 2 different systems. Therefore it is multiplat like MLB 09.

You cannot omit a system just to make your point.

CaseyWegner

this still doesn't explain why you have to ignore a system in order to make your point. didn't you say something about logic and common sense earlier? what happened? :?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

So where did i leave off in this thread ?......ah yes PS3 needs a good RPG exclusive like Mass effect.

and i want Jade empire 2 now !

Euroshinobi

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360

you need to stop this. it's gone on long enough. this is the system wars forum and it's considered trolling to act like the pc doesn't belong.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Wait but mass effect isnt exclusive. It's logic, It's on PC/360 sorry not exclusive two different gaming platforms.Animal-Mother

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360, whats PC ? is it a new home console ? its at war with 360,Wii, PS3 ? girl what you talkin' bout.

Ofcourse i'm omitting it, because a console war is about 360, Wii & ps3, not PC. true this is system wars, but in reality PC isnt going head to head with the rest.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360, whats PC ? is it a new home console ? its at war with 360,Wii, PS3 ? girl what you talkin' bout.

Euroshinobi

Ofcourse i'm omitting it, because a console war is about 360, Wii & ps3, not PC. true this is system wars, but in reality PC isnt going head to head with the rest.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] My point of view is from the average gamer, and the majority outside of this thread. I obviously got caught up in some weird new land where a few have made the rules that they think everyone else in the real world should follow, but they don't.GrilledCharlie

this still doesn't explain why you have to ignore a system in order to make your point. didn't you say something about logic and common sense earlier? what happened? :?

why do sales matter? if a game can be played on more than one system, IT IS NOT EXCLUSIVE. there is no way around this. there's nothing narrow minded about it. you are choosing to ignore a system and that is neither logical nor using common sense.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

So where did i leave off in this thread ?......ah yes PS3 needs a good RPG exclusive like Mass effect.

and i want Jade empire 2 now !

Euroshinobi

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360, whats PC ? is it a new home console ? its at war with 360,Wii, PS3 ? girl what you talkin' bout.

Euroshinobi

Ofcourse i'm omitting it, because a console war is about 360, Wii & ps3, not PC. true this is system wars, but in reality PC isnt going head to head with the rest.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

I'm pretty sure the only home console i can buy mass effect on is 360, whats PC ? is it a new home console ? its at war with 360,Wii, PS3 ? girl what you talkin' bout.

Euroshinobi

Ofcourse i'm omitting it, because a console war is about 360, Wii & ps3, not PC. true this is system wars, but in reality PC isnt going head to head with the rest.

yes it is. for a very long time, i didn't buy a 360 because most of the games i wanted for it were also available on the pc. the existence of the pc as a gaming platform kept me from buying a 360.

But in the console war its not about PC, and what you can play on it.....its whats exclusive on the current gen consoles.

But in the console war its not about PC, and what you can play on it.....its whats exclusive on the current gen consoles.

Euroshinobi

But in the console war its not about PC, and what you can play on it.....its whats exclusive on the current gen consoles.

Euroshinobi

this is not console wars.