Mass Effect 1 flopped. so are we hyping 2 as a AAA game?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Heh mmk i'm gonna try this again, i dont know why you're being all hostile towards it lol, yes in the real world PC is a platform but also in the real world when a console game is exclusive on one console its called an exclusive :/ i'm not denying anything everyone knows ME is on PC. but its also not on any other console but 360.....Its all about 360, Wii, PS3........System wars focuses on all of them.....but the majority of everyone else does not. and thats the real world for ya

Euroshinobi

you contradict your whole arguement. Tell me how many consoles is ME on? Because you just said that the PC is a platform but ME is exclusive on one of them. How can something be exclusive if it's at 2 different places. Thats like saying I have an exclusive relationship with my girlfriend while she gets to cheat on me.

If you refuse to understand what i meant, then the argument is over.

More than often Discussions tend to be all about consoles, not Pc, you can argue with everyone who calls mass effect 360 exclusive all you want its not gonna change anything in a discussion of console exclusive games Mass effect will be brought up. Halo too.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

you contradict your whole arguement. Tell me how many consoles is ME on? Because you just said that the PC is a platform but ME is exclusive on one of them. How can something be exclusive if it's at 2 different places. Thats like saying I have an exclusive relationship with my girlfriend while she gets to cheat on me.

Euroshinobi

If you refuse to understand what i meant, then the argument is over.

More than often Discussions tend to be all about consoles, not Pc, you can argue with everyone who calls mass effect 360 exclusive all you want its not gonna change anything in a discussion of console exclusive games Mass effect will be brought up. Halo too.

PC is a console you called it one

yes in the real world PC is a platform

Euroshinobi

Please this is system wars and the PC is involved there is a groupd called the hermits, ME is not exclusive. It's not barred down to one system/platform/or console It's playable on two different ones. Sorry to say the PC is not involved here is to say there's no milk in ice cream

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

The majority of the other sites only care about console news, so they'll seperate PC from all other platforms. and i just rather not fight it.....saying hey guys you're wrong change it now ! and get bombarded by loads of fanboys and what not lol

CaseyWegner

why should they count as exclusive when they're multiplat? :?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] PC games that are also on 360 SHOULD count in the exclusive argument. Any games that are on one console and not the other are considered exclusive. Otherwise, games like MLB 09 The Show don't count, because they are also on the PS2.GrilledCharlie

why should they count as exclusive when they're multiplat? :?

Why do you continue to bring system wars into this when i clearly said outside it ? :/ do you just skim through everything without actualy reading it ? honestly you're acting like a child now

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] PC games that are also on 360 SHOULD count in the exclusive argument. Any games that are on one console and not the other are considered exclusive. Otherwise, games like MLB 09 The Show don't count, because they are also on the PS2.GrilledCharlie

why should they count as exclusive when they're multiplat? :?

ps3 owners can play mass effect if they have a pc. that's why it's a multiplat.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] PC games that are also on 360 SHOULD count in the exclusive argument. Any games that are on one console and not the other are considered exclusive. Otherwise, games like MLB 09 The Show don't count, because they are also on the PS2.GrilledCharlie

why should they count as exclusive when they're multiplat? :?

Unless they own a PC. Then your argument is flawed. Which it is int he 1st place.

Why do you continue to bring system wars into this when i clearly said outside it ? :/ do you just skim through everything without actualy reading it ? honestly you're acting like a child now

Euroshinobi

Inside, outside. It doesn't matter. It is an objective fact that Mass Effect is not a 360 exclusive.

Why do you continue to bring system wars into this when i clearly said outside it ? :/ do you just skim through everything without actualy reading it ?

Euroshinobi

More than often Discussions tend to be all about consoles, not PcEuroshinobi

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Why do you continue to bring system wars into this when i clearly said outside it ? :/ do you just skim through everything without actualy reading it ? honestly you're acting like a child now

Tragic_Kingdom7

Inside, outside. It doesn't matter. It is an objective fact that Mass Effect is not a 360 exclusive.

Ofcourse. but its also not on the Wii or ps3......and if i ever make a list of 360 exclusive games to get someone to buy a 360 Mass effect will be on that list period.

Why do you continue to bring system wars into this when i clearly said outside it ? :/ do you just skim through everything without actualy reading it ? honestly you're acting like a child now

Euroshinobi

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Why do you continue to bring system wars into this when i clearly said outside it ? :/ do you just skim through everything without actualy reading it ? honestly you're acting like a child now

Euroshinobi

Inside, outside. It doesn't matter. It is an objective fact that Mass Effect is not a 360 exclusive.

Ofcourse. but its also not on the Wii or ps3......and if i ever make a list of 360 exclusive games to get someone to buy a 360 Mass effect will be on that list period.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Why do you continue to bring system wars into this when i clearly said outside it ? :/ do you just skim through everything without actualy reading it ? honestly you're acting like a child now

Euroshinobi

Inside, outside. It doesn't matter. It is an objective fact that Mass Effect is not a 360 exclusive.

Ofcourse. but its also not on the Wii or ps3......and if i ever make a list of 360 exclusive games to get someone to buy a 360 Mass effect will be on that list period.

why do them a disservice?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] PC games that are also on 360 SHOULD count in the exclusive argument. Any games that are on one console and not the other are considered exclusive. Otherwise, games like MLB 09 The Show don't count, because they are also on the PS2.GrilledCharlie

why should they count as exclusive when they're multiplat? :?

True that.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Why do you continue to bring system wars into this when i clearly said outside it ? :/ do you just skim through everything without actualy reading it ? honestly you're acting like a child now

Euroshinobi

Inside, outside. It doesn't matter. It is an objective fact that Mass Effect is not a 360 exclusive.

Ofcourse. but its also not on the Wii or ps3......and if i ever make a list of 360 exclusive games to get someone to buy a 360 Mass effect will be on that list period.

If the person was trying to decide between a PS3 or a 360, yes, I would put Mass Effect in the 360's column. But I wouldn't call it exclusive, because it isn't. I would simply label it as agame that you can get on the 360 that you can't get on the PS3.

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why should they count as exclusive when they're multiplat? :?

Animal-Mother

It makes sense because in the console exclusive argument, any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. Can PS3 owners play Mass Effect? No. Can 360 owners play KZ2? No. When people make 360 / PS3 exclusive lists and compare them, they are listing games that either one can play and not the other. Saying that a game that is on PC and 360 is not exclusive is an attempt to shrink one side's list.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Any game that is on the PS3 and not the 360 should be considered an exclusive, and vice versa. The whole exclusive argument is just to be able to say, "we get to play this game, and you don't". That is why any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. 360 owners don't get to play KZ2, just like PS3 owners don't get to play Mass Effect.Which is what is really at the heart of the exclusive argument, right?GrilledCharlie

It makes sense because in the console exclusive argument, any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. Can PS3 owners play Mass Effect? No. Can 360 owners play KZ2? No. When people make 360 / PS3 exclusive lists and compare them, they are listing games that either one can play and not the other. Saying that a game that is on PC and 360 is not exclusive is an attempt to shrink one side's list.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Any game that is on the PS3 and not the 360 should be considered an exclusive, and vice versa. The whole exclusive argument is just to be able to say, "we get to play this game, and you don't". That is why any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. 360 owners don't get to play KZ2, just like PS3 owners don't get to play Mass Effect.Which is what is really at the heart of the exclusive argument, right?GrilledCharlie

It makes sense because in the console exclusive argument, any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. Can PS3 owners play Mass Effect? No. Can 360 owners play KZ2? No. When people make 360 / PS3 exclusive lists and compare them, they are listing games that either one can play and not the other. Saying that a game that is on PC and 360 is not exclusive is an attempt to shrink one side's list.

this isn't the console wars forum.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Any game that is on the PS3 and not the 360 should be considered an exclusive, and vice versa. The whole exclusive argument is just to be able to say, "we get to play this game, and you don't". That is why any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. 360 owners don't get to play KZ2, just like PS3 owners don't get to play Mass Effect.Which is what is really at the heart of the exclusive argument, right?GrilledCharlie

It makes sense because in the console exclusive argument, any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. Can PS3 owners play Mass Effect? No. Can 360 owners play KZ2? No. When people make 360 / PS3 exclusive lists and compare them, they are listing games that either one can play and not the other. Saying that a game that is on PC and 360 is not exclusive is an attempt to shrink one side's list.

The PC is a gaming system in the real world and under System Wars. You can't just omit it, or narrow your categories just to make your point. Things don't work like that.

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why should they count as exclusive when they're multiplat? :?

CaseyWegner

ps3 owners can play mass effect if they have a pc. that's why it's a multiplat.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Any game that is on the PS3 and not the 360 should be considered an exclusive, and vice versa. The whole exclusive argument is just to be able to say, "we get to play this game, and you don't". That is why any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. 360 owners don't get to play KZ2, just like PS3 owners don't get to play Mass Effect.Which is what is really at the heart of the exclusive argument, right?GrilledCharlie

ps3 owners can play mass effect if they have a pc. that's why it's a multiplat.

Yes, if PC's didn't exist.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Any game that is on the PS3 and not the 360 should be considered an exclusive, and vice versa. The whole exclusive argument is just to be able to say, "we get to play this game, and you don't". That is why any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. 360 owners don't get to play KZ2, just like PS3 owners don't get to play Mass Effect.Which is what is really at the heart of the exclusive argument, right?GrilledCharlie

ps3 owners can play mass effect if they have a pc. that's why it's a multiplat.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Any game that is on the PS3 and not the 360 should be considered an exclusive, and vice versa. The whole exclusive argument is just to be able to say, "we get to play this game, and you don't". That is why any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. 360 owners don't get to play KZ2, just like PS3 owners don't get to play Mass Effect.Which is what is really at the heart of the exclusive argument, right?GrilledCharlie

ps3 owners can play mass effect if they have a pc. that's why it's a multiplat.

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

ps3 owners can play mass effect if they have a pc. that's why it's a multiplat.

nmaharg

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] But they can't play it on PS3. That is what makes it count as an exclusive.GrilledCharlie

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Inside, outside. It doesn't matter. It is an objective fact that Mass Effect is not a 360 exclusive.

Tragic_Kingdom7

Ofcourse. but its also not on the Wii or ps3......and if i ever make a list of 360 exclusive games to get someone to buy a 360 Mass effect will be on that list period.

If the person was trying to decide between a PS3 or a 360, yes, I would put Mass Effect in the 360's column. But I wouldn't call it exclusive, because it isn't. I would simply label it as agame that you can get on the 360 that you can't get on the PS3.

....But the friend doesn't care about PC either way......he's wanting to buy a console with great exclusives, so Mass effect name would be brought up, honestly being on gamespot this is the first time i actualy got into an arguement over it not being exclusive because PC.....most others refer to it as exclusive., Gaming sites, magazines, gamestop employees, my grandmother.....everyone and since they are reffering to consoles only, they aren't wrong in saying that :/, i'm not gonna bother explaining to a friend oh yea this game isnt really exclusive though cause you can buy it on PC aswell he doesnt care, he wants a console with great exclusives that aren't on any other console

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] But they can't play it on PS3. That is what makes it count as an exclusive.GrilledCharlie

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Do you understand what exclusive means? Mass Effect clearly isn't exclusive.PS360_Gamer

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Any game that is on the PS3 and not the 360 should be considered an exclusive, and vice versa. The whole exclusive argument is just to be able to say, "we get to play this game, and you don't". That is why any game that is on one console and not the other is considered exclusive. 360 owners don't get to play KZ2, just like PS3 owners don't get to play Mass Effect.Which is what is really at the heart of the exclusive argument, right?GrilledCharlie

ps3 owners can play mass effect if they have a pc. that's why it's a multiplat.

do you know what "exclusive" means?

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Do you understand what exclusive means? Mass Effect clearly isn't exclusive.PS360_Gamer

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

In System Wars, no it is not. It has already been decided in a very long thread.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Ofcourse. but its also not on the Wii or ps3......and if i ever make a list of 360 exclusive games to get someone to buy a 360 Mass effect will be on that list period.

Euroshinobi

If the person was trying to decide between a PS3 or a 360, yes, I would put Mass Effect in the 360's column. But I wouldn't call it exclusive, because it isn't. I would simply label it as agame that you can get on the 360 that you can't get on the PS3.

....But the friend doesn't care about PC either way......he's wanting to buy a console with great exclusives, so Mass effect name would be brought up, honestly being on gamespot this is the first time i actualy got into an arguement over it not being exclusive because PC.....most others refer to it as exclusive., Gaming sites, magazines, gamestop employees, my grandmother.....everyone and since they are reffering to consoles only, they aren't wrong in saying that :/, i'm not gonna bother explaining to a friend oh yea this game isnt really exclusive though cause you can buy it on PC aswell he doesnt care, he wants a console with great exclusives that aren't on any other console

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Ofcourse. but its also not on the Wii or ps3......and if i ever make a list of 360 exclusive games to get someone to buy a 360 Mass effect will be on that list period.

Euroshinobi

If the person was trying to decide between a PS3 or a 360, yes, I would put Mass Effect in the 360's column. But I wouldn't call it exclusive, because it isn't. I would simply label it as agame that you can get on the 360 that you can't get on the PS3.

....But the friend doesn't care about PC either way......he's wanting to buy a console with great exclusives, so Mass effect name would be brought up, honestly being on gamespot this is the first time i actualy got into an arguement over it not being exclusive because PC.....most others refer to it as exclusive., Gaming sites, magazines, gamestop employees, my grandmother.....everyone and since they are reffering to consoles only, they aren't wrong in saying that :/, i'm not gonna bother explaining to a friend oh yea this game isnt really exclusive though cause you can buy it on PC aswell he doesnt care, he wants a console with great exclusives that aren't on any other console

Gaming hardware manufacturers use exclusive software as a reason for consumers to buy their system.Animal-Mother

Like microsoft used halo to sell the xbox ? though you could still get it on pc ?

:), it doesnt matter, it wasnt on any other console

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Gaming hardware manufacturers use exclusive software as a reason for consumers to buy their system.Euroshinobi

Like microsoft used halo to sell the xbox ? though you could still get it on pc ?

:), it doesnt matter, it wasnt on any other console

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Gaming hardware manufacturers use exclusive software as a reason for consumers to buy their system.Euroshinobi

Like microsoft used halo to sell the xbox ? though you could still get it on pc ?

:), it doesnt matter, it wasnt on any other console

Do you understand what exclusive means? Mass Effect clearly isn't exclusive.nmaharg

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

PS360_Gamer

how is the gameplay different between the ps3 and the ps2?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

PS360_Gamer

Doesn't matter, it as decided that the gameplay was close to being the same, therefore it's not exclusive. You arguing the point here will not mak it exclusive. It was decided in a 1000+ post thread.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

PS360_Gamer

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

ps3 owners can play mass effect if they have a pc. that's why it's a multiplat.

do you know what "exclusive" means?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

PS360_Gamer

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Gaming hardware manufacturers use exclusive software as a reason for consumers to buy their system.Animal-Mother

Like microsoft used halo to sell the xbox ? though you could still get it on pc ?

:), it doesnt matter, it wasnt on any other console

Thats nice, point still stands, microsoft is concerned about pushing their systems out & securing exclusives for the 360. it doesnt matter that you can get them on PC what matters is that sony & nintendo can't get their hands on them. it maybe leaving PC out but eh when PC jumps into the console war you let me know.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

So, is MLB 09 The Show exclusive?

-Traveller-

In System Wars, no it is not. It has already been decided in a very long thread.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] No because its on 3 different systemsCaseyWegner

how is the gameplay different between the ps3 and the ps2?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Like microsoft used halo to sell the xbox ? though you could still get it on pc ?

:), it doesnt matter, it wasnt on any other console

Euroshinobi

Thats nice, point still stands, microsoft is concerned about pushing their systems out & securing exclusives for the 360. it doesnt matter that you can get them on PC what matters is that sony & nintendo can't get their hands on them. it maybe leaving PC out but eh when PC jumps into the console war you let me know.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] No because its on 3 different systems-Traveller-

Doesn't matter, it as decided that the gameplay was close to being the same, therefore it's not exclusive. You arguing the point here will not mak it exclusive. It was decided in a 1000+ post thread.