Mass Effect 1 flopped. so are we hyping 2 as a AAA game?

i sure hope not, the 360 version flopped hard, and the game looks clunky. just like the first one.

spike6566

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] How do you measure a flop then? A great review is an opinion by a single person. Great sales are a consensus by millions that agree a game is good.GrilledCharlie

it's explained in one of the stickied threads. a flop here is defined as a game that doesn't meet the score it was hyped to receive from gamespot.

only if it was hyped to score higher than 8.5

remember that a flop doesn't always mean "bad game".

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

That does not sound that easy. and you are not playing it on the PS3 you are streaming it.

You can just plug in a wired 360 controler to the PC and use that 360 controller with the PC. I think there is a way to use the 360 controller with the PS3 too...

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="full_disclosure"]

Jade Empire was a freakin great game! Another game underrated by GS.

full_disclosure

Ahh another one who thinks so......They're talking TOO long making jade empire 2

I'm not sure we'll ever see it. They're making Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 then 3. But one can hope!

Didn't they say it was in developement once ? :( it's horrible that they're coming out with Mass effect 2 before Jade empire 2 xD

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] How do you measure a flop then? A great review is an opinion by a single person. Great sales are a consensus by millions that agree a game is good.GrilledCharlie

it's explained in one of the stickied threads. a flop here is defined as a game that doesn't meet the score it was hyped to receive from gamespot.

Doesn't matter, Mass effect is a 360 exclusive lol, when sites call it an exclusive they're usualy reffering to consoles, Pc doesn't matter in console wars

Euroshinobi

what's the title of this forum again?

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] there is a bunch of programs that lets u use the ps3 controller with ur pc...PS360_Gamer

You can just plug in a wired 360 controler to the PC and use that 360 controller with the PC. I think there is a way to use the 360 controller with the PS3 too...

Doesn't matter, Mass effect is a 360 exclusive lol, when sites call it an exclusive they're usualy reffering to consoles, Pc doesn't matter in console wars

Euroshinobi

What sites? On System Wars we generally go by if it's on more than one system, it's not really exclusive to it.

It isn't a 360 exclusive under System Wars. It's multiplat. Just like it is for PC.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]You can just plug in a wired 360 controler to the PC and use that 360 controller with the PC. I think there is a way to use the 360 controller with the PS3 too...pyromaniac223

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

flopped hard? it missed the mark by one notch. :?

Zero5000X

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Doesn't matter, Mass effect is a 360 exclusive lol, when sites call it an exclusive they're usualy reffering to consoles, Pc doesn't matter in console wars

CaseyWegner

what's the title of this forum again?

System wars. and i'm not reffering to these forums, on a global scale Mass effect will be dubbed a 360 exclusive when rumours popped up that it could be on ps3 and were slowly debunked everything read 'Mass effect still 360 exclusive'

:)

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] ye but theres no ps3/pc only games, so it works in favor of having a ps3 and not having a 360PS360_Gamer

Wait, I don't think you can actually stream it to you PS3 though. I don;t know of any programs that stream a game over a home network, to a console that probably wouldn't allow it.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Doesn't matter, Mass effect is a 360 exclusive lol, when sites call it an exclusive they're usualy reffering to consoles, Pc doesn't matter in console wars

Euroshinobi

what's the title of this forum again?

System wars. and i'm not reffering to these forums, on a global scale Mass effect will be dubbed a 360 exclusive when rumours popped up that it could be on ps3 and were slowly debunked everything read 'Mass effect still 360 exclusive'

:)

and why would you go along with that?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Doesn't matter, Mass effect is a 360 exclusive lol, when sites call it an exclusive they're usualy reffering to consoles, Pc doesn't matter in console wars

Euroshinobi

what's the title of this forum again?

System wars. and i'm not reffering to these forums, on a global scale Mass effect will be dubbed a 360 exclusive when rumours popped up that it could be on ps3 and were slowly debunked everything read 'Mass effect still 360 exclusive'

:)

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what's the title of this forum again?

CaseyWegner

System wars. and i'm not reffering to these forums, on a global scale Mass effect will be dubbed a 360 exclusive when rumours popped up that it could be on ps3 and were slowly debunked everything read 'Mass effect still 360 exclusive'

:)

and why would you go along with that?

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is on one console and not on another, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"]

It doesn't matter, because you still need a PC to play it.pyromaniac223

Wait, I don't think you can actually stream it to you PS3 though. I don;t know of any programs that stream a game over a home network, to a console that probably wouldn't allow it.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

System wars. and i'm not reffering to these forums, on a global scale Mass effect will be dubbed a 360 exclusive when rumours popped up that it could be on ps3 and were slowly debunked everything read 'Mass effect still 360 exclusive'

:)

Euroshinobi

and why would you go along with that?

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is one one console and not on any other, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title No they dont

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

System wars. and i'm not reffering to these forums, on a global scale Mass effect will be dubbed a 360 exclusive when rumours popped up that it could be on ps3 and were slowly debunked everything read 'Mass effect still 360 exclusive'

:)

Euroshinobi

and why would you go along with that?

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is on one console and not on another, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] isnt that obvious?

PS360_Gamer

Wait, I don't think you can actually stream it to you PS3 though. I don;t know of any programs that stream a game over a home network, to a console that probably wouldn't allow it.

The PS3 probably wouldn't allow the processing of that info. Otherwise the system could be used to stream all PC games.

Plugging it straight into the TV also defies your point of playng it through the PS3.

Your point is so obscure and confusing.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"]

It doesn't matter, because you still need a PC to play it.pyromaniac223

Yeah. It is. Which is why you have no point.

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it's explained in one of the stickied threads. a flop here is defined as a game that doesn't meet the score it was hyped to receive from gamespot.

CaseyWegner

only if it was hyped to score higher than 8.5

remember that a flop doesn't always mean "bad game".

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] isnt that obvious?

Yeah. It is. Which is why you have no point.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] isnt that obvious?

PS360_Gamer

Yeah. It is. Which is why you have no point.

Yeah. I'm cutting my wrists right now, but I fail to see how that is relevant.

[QUOTE="full_disclosure"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Ahh another one who thinks so......They're talking TOO long making jade empire 2

Euroshinobi

I'm not sure we'll ever see it. They're making Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 then 3. But one can hope!

Didn't they say it was in developement once ? :( it's horrible that they're coming out with Mass effect 2 before Jade empire 2 xD

I haven't heard anything about it at all! I thought those were 08 rumors. There's nothing about it on their site.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Yeah. It is. Which is why you have no point.

Yeah. I'm cutting my wrists right now, but I fail to see how that is relevant.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] So, a game that get's a rating of 8.5 on gamespot and sells over 2 million copies is a flop? Those are some pretty strict guidelines.GrilledCharlie

only if it was hyped to score higher than 8.5

remember that a flop doesn't always mean "bad game".

You need help.

Here:

"Flops

Certain games become highly anticipated and followed by System Wars, typically high-profile games believed to be "system sellers" (exclusive games of a high caliber that lead to new users buying into a platform). When these games become hyped, a score prediction is made, however sometimes a game fails to receive the review score that was predicted by the posters hyping the title. When a game's actual review score is lower than its predicted review score, it is said to have "flopped".

There is currently some disagreement on a game being considered a "true flop", and growing debate over what review scores "count" for that flop. The official policies of System Wars currently dictate that only GameSpot scores count, however other sites are often used to attempt to predict GameSpot's review scores."

From here.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] So, a game that get's a rating of 8.5 on gamespot and sells over 2 million copies is a flop? Those are some pretty strict guidelines.GrilledCharlie

only if it was hyped to score higher than 8.5

remember that a flop doesn't always mean "bad game".

It depends on if we're talking about a flop in terms of sales or a flop in terms of reviews. In this case, we're talking about reviewes.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] i have a point, but u dont because it sounds like ur unhappy :(PS360_Gamer

Yeah. I'm cutting my wrists right now, but I fail to see how that is relevant.

My "happiness" is plainly not relevant in a discussion about video games. It just isn't.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

System wars. and i'm not reffering to these forums, on a global scale Mass effect will be dubbed a 360 exclusive when rumours popped up that it could be on ps3 and were slowly debunked everything read 'Mass effect still 360 exclusive'

:)

Euroshinobi

and why would you go along with that?

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is on one console and not on another, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

but why go with it even if you know it's wrong?

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Yeah. I'm cutting my wrists right now, but I fail to see how that is relevant.

My "happiness" is plainly not relevant here. It just isn't.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and why would you go along with that?

Animal-Mother

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is one one console and not on any other, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title No they dont

Yes they do

http://www.unscripted360.com/2009/03/17/mass-effect-2-still-xbox-360-exclusive/

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184788

http://play.tm/wire/2519567/mass-effect-2-shepherd-is-alive-and-exclusive-to-xbox360-mass-effect-2/

http://whatifgaming.com/mass-effect-2-will-stay-exclusive-at-least-in-home-console-sense

Moar ?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is one one console and not on any other, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

Euroshinobi

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title No they dont

Yes they do

http://www.unscripted360.com/2009/03/17/mass-effect-2-still-xbox-360-exclusive/

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184788

http://play.tm/wire/2519567/mass-effect-2-shepherd-is-alive-and-exclusive-to-xbox360-mass-effect-2/

http://whatifgaming.com/mass-effect-2-will-stay-exclusive-at-least-in-home-console-sense

Moar ?

And the second link says that it wants to keep the ME trilogy exclusive to 360. It's a shame because it already went multiplat.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] So, a game that get's a rating of 8.5 on gamespot and sells over 2 million copies is a flop? Those are some pretty strict guidelines.GrilledCharlie

only if it was hyped to score higher than 8.5

remember that a flop doesn't always mean "bad game".

i didn't say it was a hit. i just told you what the definition of a flop here is.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26719140&tag=topics;title No they dont

Animal-Mother

Yes they do

http://www.unscripted360.com/2009/03/17/mass-effect-2-still-xbox-360-exclusive/

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184788

http://play.tm/wire/2519567/mass-effect-2-shepherd-is-alive-and-exclusive-to-xbox360-mass-effect-2/

http://whatifgaming.com/mass-effect-2-will-stay-exclusive-at-least-in-home-console-sense

Moar ?

I think you mixed up my post a little bit, i said outside gamespot, not in it lol

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Yes they do

http://www.unscripted360.com/2009/03/17/mass-effect-2-still-xbox-360-exclusive/

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=184788

http://play.tm/wire/2519567/mass-effect-2-shepherd-is-alive-and-exclusive-to-xbox360-mass-effect-2/

http://whatifgaming.com/mass-effect-2-will-stay-exclusive-at-least-in-home-console-sense

Moar ?

Euroshinobi

I think you mixed up my post a little bit, i said outside gamespot, not in it lol

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] read who i originally replied to then you will see how it is relevantPS360_Gamer

My "happiness" is plainly not relevant here. It just isn't.

It was a bit snarky at best. I still think you have no point and are just splitting hairs for the sake of it.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and why would you go along with that?

CaseyWegner

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is on one console and not on another, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

but why go with it even if you know it's wrong?

The majority of the other sites only care about console news, so they'll seperate PC from all other platforms. and i just rather not fight it.....saying hey guys you're wrong change it now ! and get bombarded by loads of fanboys and what not lol

Flopped? The game is amazing on the PC.

ME "floped" (if you can really call 8.5 a flop)on the 360 becuse it lacked the polish the PC version had. Both were excellent games enjoyed by many and if makes sense than many would hype a sequal.

But still outside of gamespot the PC is a different platform. So no It's not exclusive. You just found site that said it was. In the real world the PC is a platform and you can't deny that. ME lost it's exclusivity long agoAnimal-Mother

Heh mmk i'm gonna try this again, i dont know why you're being all hostile towards it lol, yes in the real world PC is a platform but also in the real world when a console game is exclusive on one console its called an exclusive :/ i'm not denying anything everyone knows ME is on PC. but its also not on any other console but 360.....Its all about 360, Wii, PS3........System wars focuses on all of them.....but the majority of everyone else does not. and thats the real world for ya

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]But still outside of gamespot the PC is a different platform. So no It's not exclusive. You just found site that said it was. In the real world the PC is a platform and you can't deny that. ME lost it's exclusivity long agoEuroshinobi

Heh mmk i'm gonna try this again, i dont know why you're being all hostile towards it lol, yes in the real world PC is a platform but also in the real world when a console game is exclusive on one console its called an exclusive :/ i'm not denying anything everyone knows ME is on PC. but its also not on any other console but 360.....Its all about 360, Wii, PS3........System wars focuses on all of them.....but the majority of everyone else does not. and thats the real world for ya

how do you know that it's the majority of the real world?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]But still outside of gamespot the PC is a different platform. So no It's not exclusive. You just found site that said it was. In the real world the PC is a platform and you can't deny that. ME lost it's exclusivity long agoEuroshinobi

Heh mmk i'm gonna try this again, i dont know why you're being all hostile towards it lol, yes in the real world PC is a platform but also in the real world when a console game is exclusive on one console its called an exclusive :/ i'm not denying anything everyone knows ME is on PC. but its also not on any other console but 360.....Its all about 360, Wii, PS3........System wars focuses on all of them.....but the majority of everyone else does not. and thats the real world for ya

you contradict your whole arguement. Tell me how many consoles is ME on? Because you just said that the PC is a platform but ME is exclusive on one of them. How can something be exclusive if it's at 2 different places. Thats like saying I have an exclusive relationship with my girlfriend while she gets to cheat on me.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

Because outside of gamespot thats how things work ? if a game is on one console and not on another, but is on PC they still call it a 360 exclusive.

Euroshinobi

but why go with it even if you know it's wrong?

The majority of the other sites only care about console news, so they'll seperate PC from all other platforms. and i just rather not fight it.....saying hey guys you're wrong change it now ! and get bombarded by loads of fanboys and what not lol

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

but why go with it even if you know it's wrong?

GrilledCharlie

The majority of the other sites only care about console news, so they'll seperate PC from all other platforms. and i just rather not fight it.....saying hey guys you're wrong change it now ! and get bombarded by loads of fanboys and what not lol

why should they count as exclusive when they're multiplat? :?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]But still outside of gamespot the PC is a different platform. So no It's not exclusive. You just found site that said it was. In the real world the PC is a platform and you can't deny that. ME lost it's exclusivity long agoEuroshinobi

Heh mmk i'm gonna try this again, i dont know why you're being all hostile towards it lol, yes in the real world PC is a platform but also in the real world when a console game is exclusive on one console its called an exclusive :/ i'm not denying anything everyone knows ME is on PC. but its also not on any other console but 360.....Its all about 360, Wii, PS3........System wars focuses on all of them.....but the majority of everyone else does not. and thats the real world for ya

The TC should rename this thread to the "Splitting Hairs" thread.

It's pretty damn simple. 360 is not the only platform that Mass Effect can be played on, so thus Mass Effect is not in any way exclusive to 360. The very definition of exclusive is not compatible with your argument.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]But still outside of gamespot the PC is a different platform. So no It's not exclusive. You just found site that said it was. In the real world the PC is a platform and you can't deny that. ME lost it's exclusivity long agoAnimal-Mother

Heh mmk i'm gonna try this again, i dont know why you're being all hostile towards it lol, yes in the real world PC is a platform but also in the real world when a console game is exclusive on one console its called an exclusive :/ i'm not denying anything everyone knows ME is on PC. but its also not on any other console but 360.....Its all about 360, Wii, PS3........System wars focuses on all of them.....but the majority of everyone else does not. and thats the real world for ya

you contradict your whole arguement. Tell me how many consoles is ME on? Because you just said that the PC is a platform but ME is exclusive on one of them. How can something be exclusive if it's at 2 different places. Thats like saying I have an exclusive relationship with my girlfriend while she gets to cheat on me.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]But still outside of gamespot the PC is a different platform. So no It's not exclusive. You just found site that said it was. In the real world the PC is a platform and you can't deny that. ME lost it's exclusivity long agoAnimal-Mother

Heh mmk i'm gonna try this again, i dont know why you're being all hostile towards it lol, yes in the real world PC is a platform but also in the real world when a console game is exclusive on one console its called an exclusive :/ i'm not denying anything everyone knows ME is on PC. but its also not on any other console but 360.....Its all about 360, Wii, PS3........System wars focuses on all of them.....but the majority of everyone else does not. and thats the real world for ya

you contradict your whole arguement. Tell me how many consoles is ME on? Because you just said that the PC is a platform but ME is exclusive on one of them. How can something be exclusive if it's at 2 different places. Thats like saying I have an exclusive relationship with my girlfriend while she gets to cheat on me.

If you refuse to understand what i meant, then the argument is over.

More than often discussions tend to be all about consoles, not Pc, you can argue with everyone who calls mass effect 360 exclusive all you want its not gonna change anything in a discussion of console exclusive games Mass effect will be brought up. Halo too.