Lol, No FPS can dethrown HALO.

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#1 Serbiam
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They try, they fail....sound familiar. It should...Many devs are trying to out do Halo and what it brought to the table. While some great ideas are out there, nothing compares to halo's, Simple, fun and perfectly balanced gameplay...which was done so well at the time.

I think timing played a huge part, since Halo did it like no other and it did it FIRST for consoles....thats hard for another game with the same genre to over take and make it better. Simply can't get better than what halo has done.

While i know i'll get flamed by the haters, thats fine....its human nature to hate popular things. and i DO know many hate the game simply because its not to there likings, i totally understand and respect peoples opinion.

But you can't ignore the fact that Halo set the bar SO HIGH, that in the end, Halo is still the game most talk about.

IMO, the next to go down will be HAZE, many have already lost interest in it.

Thoughts?

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#2 mo0ksi
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You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.
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#3 Serbiam
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You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.mo0ksi

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

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This is all your opinion. CS > Halo imo.

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#5 noswear
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You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.mo0ksi

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#6 RobbieH1234
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You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.mo0ksi
Agreed.
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#7 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.Serbiam

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

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#8 BumFluff122
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Perfectly balanced? Are you insane?
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#9 Serbiam
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[QUOTE="Serbiam"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.mo0ksi

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

You lost me there, I understand IYO that halo isn't a great game fine...but Review scores, SALES and overall hype surrounding it speaks for its self.

like i said, i respect everyones opinion.

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#10 Serbiam
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Perfectly balanced? Are you insane?BumFluff122

For a controller....yes.

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#11 linkthewindow
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If Halo=the best FPS ever, then how come it has a non-existent online following on PC?
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#12 naval
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true no fps can dethrone halo because halo doesn't has the throne to begin with
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:| I'd rather play Far Cry, Portal, Half Life + episodes, Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, Call of Duty 1, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, e.t.c. anytime.

Halo is good and fun, but not even the superior PC version can match up to the experience those other shooters gave me.

I'd also rather play games from the RTS genre such as Dawn of War + expansions, Company of Heroes, Age of Mythology, Warcraft 3, Command and Conquer Generals and such.

This is my opinion, but I think many other hermits would agree with me.

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#14 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Perfectly balanced? Are you insane?Serbiam

For a controller....yes.

I have no idea what you are talking about. The controller belongs to MS and has nothing to do with Halo. You have the option of switching your controller configuration to a specific game type of which shooters are one of them. Amazingly this controller configuration matches the halo controller configuration to a tee. Basically you have the same exact controller configuration for most of the FPS on the 360.

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#15 chutup
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That's like saying that no anime can dethrone Bleach :|
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That's like saying that no anime can dethrone Bleach :|chutup


What... are you trying to say it can?
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#17 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="Serbiam"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.Serbiam

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

You lost me there, I understand IYO that halo isn't a great game fine...but Review scores, SALES and overall hype surrounding it speaks for its self.

like i said, i respect everyones opinion.

Halo is good. Not great, not amazing. Just good. But yet people give it wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much praise than what it deserves.
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They try, they fail....sound familiar. It should...Many devs are trying to out do Halo and what it brought to the table. While some great ideas are out there, nothing compares to halo's, Simple, fun and perfectly balanced gameplay...which was done so well at the time.

I think timing played a huge part, since Halo did it like no other and it did it FIRST for consoles....thats hard for another game with the same genre to over take and make it better. Simply can't get better than what halo has done.

While i know i'll get flamed by the haters, thats fine....its human nature to hate popular things. and i DO know many hate the game simply because its not to there likings, i totally understand and respect peoples opinion.

But you can't ignore the fact that Halo set the bar SO HIGH, that in the end, Halo is still the game most talk about.

IMO, the next to go down will be HAZE, many have already lost interest in it.

Thoughts?

Serbiam
LOL! Halo is casual, noob trash!!! CoD 4 has already taken Halo 3 and tossed it aside like a last Gen cast off! Soon other FPS like HAZE, R6 Vegas 2, Battlefield Bad Company, SOCOM Conmfrontation and Killzone 2 will further decimate MS's one shining star!
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They try, they fail....sound familiar. It should...Many devs are trying to out do Halo and what it brought to the table. While some great ideas are out there, nothing compares to halo's, Simple, fun and perfectly balanced gameplay...which was done so well at the time.

I think timing played a huge part, since Halo did it like no other and it did it FIRST for consoles....thats hard for another game with the same genre to over take and make it better. Simply can't get better than what halo has done.

While i know i'll get flamed by the haters, thats fine....its human nature to hate popular things. and i DO know many hate the game simply because its not to there likings, i totally understand and respect peoples opinion.

But you can't ignore the fact that Halo set the bar SO HIGH, that in the end, Halo is still the game most talk about.

IMO, the next to go down will be HAZE, many have already lost interest in it.

Thoughts?

Serbiam

CoD4 >> GOTY, Halo 1-3>> toilet paper.

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[QUOTE="Serbiam"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.mo0ksi

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

I disagree about Half-Life not having the same hype as Halo. The hype is there, the marketing is not, Half-Life games sell themselves now. Halo 3 needed 100 million dollar marketing campaigns, Halo's "hype" was generated by the M$ marketing machine and they did a damned fine job of it, as this thread clearly indicates. Brainwashed masses = win for the big guys, Great games that don't need brainwashed masses to stand on their own = win for companies such as Valve. For it's time Half-Life was a masterpiece, same for HL2, can't say that Halo or any of it's sequels were.

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didnt cod4 beat it
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They try, they fail....sound familiar. It should...Many devs are trying to out do Halo and what it brought to the table. While some great ideas are out there, nothing compares to halo's, Simple, fun and perfectly balanced gameplay...which was done so well at the time.

I think timing played a huge part, since Halo did it like no other and it did it FIRST for consoles....thats hard for another game with the same genre to over take and make it better. Simply can't get better than what halo has done.

While i know i'll get flamed by the haters, thats fine....its human nature to hate popular things. and i DO know many hate the game simply because its not to there likings, i totally understand and respect peoples opinion.

But you can't ignore the fact that Halo set the bar SO HIGH, that in the end, Halo is still the game most talk about.

IMO, the next to go down will be HAZE, many have already lost interest in it.

Thoughts?

Serbiam

thats the first time ive heard say that towards halo 3 lmao

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IMO CoD4 is way better than Halo.
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#24 i_Pwn_TheVuhJay
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IMO CoD4 is way better than Halo.theycallmeryan

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#25 whocares4peace
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And its thread like these due to which Halo gets so much hate on these boards.
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how about crysis or call of duty 4? who cares about sales, for all we know people might just buy the game, never play it cause they found out that it was bad and never bothered returning it. and also, you never know how long people will play the games. did COD4 become xbox lives most played game or something. people might still be playing halo 1 and 2 cause they havnt gotten the money to buy a new console or upgrade their PC's to play the new and best, or they are more work oriented in life now that they dont have much time to play that many games (some people ARE like that).

Crysis and COD4 have gotten 9.5 ratings on gamespot as well. please dont bring in other sites, seeing as lemmings bash cows cause of them doing like that. atleast do it urself.

opinion is just opinion, you think halo has the FPS crown and you think that no other FPS can dethrown it from what you think is its rightful place. BUt i can promise you that heaps of people out their dont give a piss dam about halo 1, 2 or 3 - the game probly didnt have the crown in the first place for them.

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#27 skrat_01
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Halo was never on a 'throne'

Quite frankly half life is still yet to be 'dethroned', not even crysis achieved it.

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.Serbiam

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

WoW?
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wow that cave you yours must be great for you to stay in it soooooo long... as for the rest of the WORLD. EVERY mag and article has stated given more stars and glory to CALL OF DUTY 4!!! as a BETTER GAME!!!!

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Umm Call of Duty 4 already has buddy.
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#31 Immortal_Evil
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Yep, all other fps's try but end up shadowing halo.
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.Serbiam

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Er..Half Life 2?

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Don't forget CoD4 quite often tops live playnumbers, despite selling drastically less than Halo 3 on the 360.
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Don't forget CoD4 quite often tops live playnumbers, despite selling drastically less than Halo 3 on the 360.thrones
And it didnt have the mega millions marketing campaign that Halo did.

Methinks that COD4 made much more profit.

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#35 HAZE-Unit
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There is a game called Call of Duty 4 that beat the hell out of Halo, btw Halo is not the king of FPSs.

TimeSplitters series is way way better and more fun than the Halo series.

The fact that you have mentioned HAZE, only proves that you think it is a big competition to Halo and HAZE gonna PWN. :D

I recommend you to play the game when is released before judging, I've wished that HAZE to be multi-console just that gamers enjoy great games from great developers, unfortunately, it went the other way, it is PS3 only.

BTW, the things said about Halo about the timing and all, could be said also to Goldeneye 007, the talent behind that legendary game are the same talent behind HAZE.

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#36 Victor_Kudo
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Halo is a good game, not a great one, nor a revolutionary one. It brings nothing new to the table. It doesn't stand a chance against the likes of Half-Life or Far Cry.
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They try, they fail....sound familiar. It should...Many devs are trying to out do Halo and what it brought to the table. While some great ideas are out there, nothing compares to halo's, Simple, fun and perfectly balanced gameplay...which was done so well at the time.

I think timing played a huge part, since Halo did it like no other and it did it FIRST for consoles....thats hard for another game with the same genre to over take and make it better. Simply can't get better than what halo has done.

While i know i'll get flamed by the haters, thats fine....its human nature to hate popular things. and i DO know many hate the game simply because its not to there likings, i totally understand and respect peoples opinion.

But you can't ignore the fact that Halo set the bar SO HIGH, that in the end, Halo is still the game most talk about.

IMO, the next to go down will be HAZE, many have already lost interest in it.

Thoughts?

Serbiam

Halo is the king in terms of multiplayer FPS games. I find the single player campaign has just got worse and worse since Halo 1

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I thought CoD 4 did that.
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#39 ff7isnumbaone
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please, Gears > halo.
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please, Gears > halo.ff7isnumbaone

Gears of war is a FPS?

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#41 Serbiam
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Had NO idea COD4 was considered that much better over HALO3....sure i saw some awards and praises but COD4 really stomp on Halo 3?

IMO, Halo is a better franchise, but COD4 was damn good.

Like i said, i respect everyones opinion. and i was going by sales and overall awards alone. You can't really argue the fact that halo IS huge, its not talked about for nothing.

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Half Life series hasn't aged well. Half Life 2 Episode 2 felt severely dated. I let my brother borrow Orange Box and he says he is extremely bored by those games. I liked them myself but when you compare a level like Tsavoi Highway to anything in the Half Life series it completely blows away Half Life in terms of epic scope and pure action.

Halo is the Star Wars of FPS. You can hate it all you want and claim Half Life is the "superior" Solaris or something in comparison but that's your right.

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="Serbiam"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.Serbiam

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

You lost me there, I understand IYO that halo isn't a great game fine...but Review scores, SALES and overall hype surrounding it speaks for its self.

like i said, i respect everyones opinion.

Hype created by a COMPANY. is worthless on measuring the quality.. the game had more maerketing than anygame in history.

Review scores are not the best...

Sales ... are not a sign of quality strictyl, but a sign of accessibility.

Halo 3 is a good game, but its so simple its the most half-hearted FPS i have ever played, its ... designed ... for complete newcomers to FPS ... that is it, sure youl try and tell me "But teh skilled players stand out" ... no they dont, they are limited to the mechanics of the game... which are vvery slow to the point where i newby can hold down the trigger on you for 4 seconds and get a kill...

No way of dodging fire = noobified

1-2 hit melee , based on "Person with less health dies" = noobified

Regenerating shield = noobified

Grenade spam centric = noobified

AutoAim heavy Fireing AND Melee = noobified

Its well balanced because there is nothing to the games multiplayer other than spamming these things... you dont even need any real aiming ability.

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#44 Baranga
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Half Life series hasn't aged well. Half Life 2 Episode 2 felt severely dated. I let my brother borrow Orange Box and he says he is extremely bored by those games. I liked them myself but when you compare a level like Tsavoi Highway to anything in the Half Life series it completely blows away Half Life in terms of epic scope and pure action.

Halo is the Star Wars of FPS. You can hate it all you want and claim Half Life is the "superior" Solaris or something in comparison but that's your right.

JiveT

Because games are all about action. Of course he is bored.

I guess you didn't play the last level of Episode 2. That pwnz every other epic battle, ever.

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Halo is Top Tier.
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="Serbiam"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.Crzy1

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

I disagree about Half-Life not having the same hype as Halo. The hype is there, the marketing is not, Half-Life games sell themselves now. Halo 3 needed 100 million dollar marketing campaigns, Halo's "hype" was generated by the M$ marketing machine and they did a damned fine job of it, as this thread clearly indicates. Brainwashed masses = win for the big guys, Great games that don't need brainwashed masses to stand on their own = win for companies such as Valve. For it's time Half-Life was a masterpiece, same for HL2, can't say that Halo or any of it's sequels were.



Totally agree
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Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

You lost me there, I understand IYO that halo isn't a great game fine...but Review scores, SALES and overall hype surrounding it speaks for its self.

like i said, i respect everyones opinion.

Hype created by a COMPANY. is worthless on measuring the quality.. the game had more maerketing than anygame in history.

Review scores are not the best...

Sales ... are not a sign of quality strictyl, but a sign of accessibility.

Halo 3 is a good game, but its so simple its the most half-hearted FPS i have ever played, its ... designed ... for complete newcomers to FPS ... that is it, sure youl try and tell me "But teh skilled players stand out" ... no they dont, they are limited to the mechanics of the game... which are vvery slow to the point where i newby can hold down the trigger on you for 4 seconds and get a kill...

No way of dodging fire = noobified

1-2 hit melee , based on "Person with less health dies" = noobified

Regenerating shield = noobified

Grenade spam centric = noobified

AutoAim heavy Fireing AND Melee = noobified

Its well balanced because there is nothing to the games multiplayer other than spamming these things... you dont even need any real aiming ability.

If halo's so noobified and pro's don't stand out from noobs, you should be number one on the leaderboards... right???

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.Meu2k7

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

You lost me there, I understand IYO that halo isn't a great game fine...but Review scores, SALES and overall hype surrounding it speaks for its self.

like i said, i respect everyones opinion.

Hype created by a COMPANY. is worthless on measuring the quality.. the game had more maerketing than anygame in history.

Review scores are not the best...

Sales ... are not a sign of quality strictyl, but a sign of accessibility.

Halo 3 is a good game, but its so simple its the most half-hearted FPS i have ever played, its ... designed ... for complete newcomers to FPS ... that is it, sure youl try and tell me "But teh skilled players stand out" ... no they dont, they are limited to the mechanics of the game... which are vvery slow to the point where i newby can hold down the trigger on you for 4 seconds and get a kill...

No way of dodging fire = noobified

1-2 hit melee , based on "Person with less health dies" = noobified

Regenerating shield = noobified

Grenade spam centric = noobified

AutoAim heavy Fireing AND Melee = noobified

Its well balanced because there is nothing to the games multiplayer other than spamming these things... you dont even need any real aiming ability.

I'm sorry, but thats just looking for a reason to put halo down, its a game...what do you expect, Halo does require skill, Skill to aim, skill to know when to move and strike, how far to throw a nade...etc. What you said, can be said about any FPS.

IMO, thats a bad excuse. but whatever.

A game doesn't have to be OMFG insaenly hard to be good. does it?

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i know it might not mean much but go to gamebattles.com its like a tournament place where teams play each other ect. halo 3 has a total of 9,000 registered teams this winter season.............cod4 (360) has 28,000! cod4 has triple the amount of teams. halo 3 just feels a lil broken right now. it needs better maps. hopefully the upcoming maps are gonna be good.
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="Serbiam"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]You mean no FPS can dethrown Half Life. Because that sounds more believeable.Serbiam

Not really, Which game has more hype, always talked about and sold like no other?

Hype doesn't mean a damn thing when you got a crappy game at the end. Sure HL didn't get as much hype as Halo. But it's still widly considered to be the best FPS ever made. Anyone else who thinks Halo is king has probably never played Half Life.

I can list a load of games that kill Halo in terms of quality.

You lost me there, I understand IYO that halo isn't a great game fine...but Review scores, SALES and overall hype surrounding it speaks for its self.

like i said, i respect everyones opinion.

Wow... Halo sell like no other for Xbox because at that time, it WAS THE ONLY GOOD GAME AVAILABLE...