Is there still a debate about PC being the best?

Yeh, it's a complete and total fact. Everyone agrees.AAllxxjjnn

if only that were true

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Yep, and it's subjective, but what's objective is that the PC has more AAAs and AAs than consoles.

ElTriforceo

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh, it's a complete and total fact. Everyone agrees.SLIisaownsystem

no SLI is a bit better

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Exclusives for 2009
PC = 49
Xbox = 8
Ps3 = 7


The majority of those games scored above 80 Metacritic and 10 of then above 85 Metacritic. Plus a huge variety of different types: TBS/RTS hybrid, Sim/RTS hybrid, RTS/RPG hybrid, Multiplayer FPS, Freeform FPS, FPS/Adventure hybrid, TBS/RPG hybrid, TBS/RPG hybrid, Combat flight sim, ARPG, Sim, Adventure, Citybuilder. And that's just one fairly slow year for the PC, 2010 will be much better.

MK-Professor

Interesting, how come the PS3 has 33 games scoring 85+ on GameRankings whereas the PC only has 19 ? Maybe it has to do with the fact that quantity =/= quality?

PS3-2009

PC-2009

Also, if you care to investigate further, you will find out that the highest scoring PC exclusive for '09 is Empire: Total War with a score of 88.62. Enjoy your PC (for the record, I also have gaming PC, but rabid hermits annoy me).

Consol gamers have to realize that a pc-game score are no comparable with a console-game score. That is because pc has higher standards than consoles, on the other hand console gamers are easily satisfied with almost everything. For example if a pc game get 8.0 and a consol game get 9.0, that means that the pc game that get 8.0 is better than the consol game with 9.0.

Every year pc's have more and better exclusives than both ps3 and xbox combined together, plus the best multiplats (Not only because of the better graphics but also better online experience, controls, gameplay, mods, and sometimes more content).

Um ok so the new Stalker that came out is better than UC2? Is thats going on?

Um no stop the standards arguement. Its a weak attempt to hide your low scores.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Interesting, how come the PS3 has 33 games scoring 85+ on GameRankings whereas the PC only has 19 ? Maybe it has to do with the fact that quantity =/= quality?

PS3-2009

PC-2009

Also, if you care to investigate further, you will find out that the highest scoring PC exclusive for '09 is Empire: Total War with a score of 88.62. Enjoy your PC (for the record, I also have gaming PC, but rabid hermits annoy me).

DarthBilf

Consol gamers have to realize that a pc-game score are no comparable with a console-game score. That is because pc has higher standards than consoles, on the other hand console gamers are easily satisfied with almost everything. For example if a pc game get 8.0 and a consol game get 9.0, that means that the pc game that get 8.0 is better than the consol game with 9.0.

Every year pc's have more and better exclusives than both ps3 and xbox combined together, plus the best multiplats (Not only because of the better graphics but also better online experience, controls, gameplay, mods, and sometimes more content).

True that.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Yep, and it's subjective, but what's objective is that the PC has more AAAs and AAs than consoles.

ElTriforceo

see for yourself.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA

it's true if we're talking exclusives.

[QUOTE="ElTriforceo"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

Yep, and it's subjective, but what's objective is that the PC has more AAAs and AAs than consoles.

CaseyWegner

see for yourself.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA

it's true if we're talking exclusives.

All consoles combined have more AAA's.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="ElTriforceo"] This statement is false. I thought it was true but this gen it simply isn't. Of all time obviously ya.... but that doesn't count, if all systems had over 20 years of shelf life and was just upgraded (meaning every few years spending $200 on an upgrade) every so often, they'd have just as many.deathtarget04

see for yourself.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA

it's true if we're talking exclusives.

All consoles combined have more AAA's.

good thing we were talking about AAs too.

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

see for yourself.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA

it's true if we're talking exclusives.

CaseyWegner

All consoles combined have more AAA's.

good thing we were talking about AAs too.

good thing this is subjective and Gamespot scores dont mean anything in the real world.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

All consoles combined have more AAA's.

deathtarget04

good thing we were talking about AAs too.

good thing this is subjective and Gamespot scores dont mean anything in the real world.

it's not subjective. it is a fact that gamespot gave the games the scores on that spreadsheet.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]There's a big difference between being able to connect a PC to a TV and get a signal, and having an interface designed to be operated start-to-finish from 10' away using a gamepad.Stinger78

Best possible graphics? yes

Best interface for every game type? No

Nope. I think the PC is the best because of backwards compatibility alone... Well, older games.

Nope. I think the PC is the best because of backwards compatibility alone... Well, older games.

awssk8er716

BC on PC dont feel like it used to.

IMO Console>PC gaming... Like someone said before you have to always upgrade your PC to be able to play today's games but for console... You just by a console and your done. Consoles have better games this gen so im happy right now... Sooner or later i will probably give PC a chance sinse right now, I bought a better pc...

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

All consoles combined have more AAA's.

deathtarget04

good thing we were talking about AAs too.

good thing this is subjective and Gamespot scores dont mean anything in the real world.

First you brag about consoles have more AAA games, then you say scores don't count RIGHT AFTER being told that PC still has more exclusives? :lol: Try to be more subtle when using double standards please.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="ElTriforceo"] This statement is false. I thought it was true but this gen it simply isn't. Of all time obviously ya.... but that doesn't count, if all systems had over 20 years of shelf life and was just upgraded (meaning every few years spending $200 on an upgrade) every so often, they'd have just as many.deathtarget04

see for yourself.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA

it's true if we're talking exclusives.

All consoles combined have more AAA's.

I was one of those that thought hooking up my pc to my TV would be a massive complicated mess. But no. Just got a DVI to HDMI cable and away I go. Use a couple of wireless Xbox controllers and play when friends are over on my couch in front of my 50" TV. Its not hard at all and provides a clearly superior image - you should hear my friends talk about and look at the graphics in amazement. So if you have a nice new HD TV, plug up your PC to it and enjoy - its really very easy to do.

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

see for yourself.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA

it's true if we're talking exclusives.

Arach666

All consoles combined have more AAA's.

When you have decades of PC gaming compared to a five or so year generation of console gaming, it's quite easy to do so, and this is where it becomes flawed, IMO.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

All consoles combined have more AAA's.

Cerberus_Legion

When you have decades of PC gaming compared to a five or so year generation of console gaming, it's quite easy to do so, and this is where it becomes flawed, IMO.

Gamespot PC Game Reviews
(11/15/05 to current)

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] When you need to compare the PC against ALL three other platforms,you know the PC has won.devious742

When you have decades of PC gaming compared to a five or so year generation of console gaming, it's quite easy to do so, and this is where it becomes flawed, IMO.

Do they? :? I always see many PC gamers going far back into the 90s for some of their arguments, or even the PS2/Xbox/DC/Gamecube generation. Meh, best not to generalize. Some PC gamers do this, though. They like to count the entire back catalog of PC games against one console generation.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

When you have decades of PC gaming compared to a five or so year generation of console gaming, it's quite easy to do so, and this is where it becomes flawed, IMO.

Cerberus_Legion

Do they? :? I always see many PC gamers going far back into the 90s for some of their arguments, or even the PS2/Xbox/DC/Gamecube generation. Meh, best not to generalize. Some PC gamers do this, though. They like to count the entire back catalog of PC games against one console generation.

you didn't look at the spreadsheet? :(

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

[QUOTE="devious742"] actually ..these start from when the first console this gen came out..the 360...

CaseyWegner

Do they? :? I always see many PC gamers going far back into the 90s for some of their arguments, or even the PS2/Xbox/DC/Gamecube generation. Meh, best not to generalize. Some PC gamers do this, though. They like to count the entire back catalog of PC games against one console generation.

you didn't look at the spreadsheet? :(

Guess I have to be a little more observant. :P Apologies. :oops:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

Do they? :? I always see many PC gamers going far back into the 90s for some of their arguments, or even the PS2/Xbox/DC/Gamecube generation. Meh, best not to generalize. Some PC gamers do this, though. They like to count the entire back catalog of PC games against one console generation.

Cerberus_Legion

you didn't look at the spreadsheet? :(

Guess I have to be a little more observant. :P Apologies. :oops:

Apology should be accepted. :( That's a cute puppy. :)

Um ok so the new Stalker that came out is better than UC2? Is thats going on?

Um no stop the standards arguement. Its a weak attempt to hide your low scores.

deathtarget04

How dare you are to try to compare the new Stalker with the UC2. Stalker is far better game in every way(atmosphere, graphics, gameplay) on the other hand UC2 is like interactive movie(boring and lame) with no freedom at all and extremely linear.


What low scores??? Do understand that pc's have more and better exclusives?

"Higher standards theory"

For example when the same game get 8.0 in all the three platforms (pc, ps3, 360) that means that:
This pc-game get 8.0 compare to the rest pc-games.
This ps3-game get 8.0 compare to the rest ps3-games.
This 360-game get 8.0 compare to the rest 360-games.

Now if we compare directly pc ps3 360 we will get something like that:
pc-game get 8.0
ps3-game get 4.0
360-game get 4.0

Because the same game on pc run with 1920x1200, 60fps 4xAA 16AF, veryhigh setting, also dedicated servers, ability to use mods etc.
The same game on consoles runs with 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA 0AF, medium setting, also NO dedicated servers, NO ability to use mods etc.
From the above reasons the same game will get different scores.


The higher standards theory is 100% correct because if we have a pc game that deserve 9.0 but this pc game have limitations 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA 0AF, medium setting, also NO dedicated servers, NO ability to use mods do you thing that this game will get a 9.0 compare to the rest pc-games? of course not.

Wait, what? No it doesn't. Games like Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2 are as good if not better than anything on the PC.

DarthBilf

You have to understand that even the worst pc games are better than Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2.

God hermits are elitist :roll:

It all comes down to games and some ppl prefer more then just shooters and mmo

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"] Wait, what? No it doesn't. Games like Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2 are as good if not better than anything on the PC.

MK-Professor

You have to understand that even the worst pc games are better than Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2.

The the biggest pile of **** ive ever heard

God hermits are elitist :roll:

It all comes down to games and some ppl prefer more then just shooters and mmo

13C

So yes 13C,PC is just about shooters and mmo´s...

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Um ok so the new Stalker that came out is better than UC2? Is thats going on?

Um no stop the standards arguement. Its a weak attempt to hide your low scores.

MK-Professor

How dare you are to try to compare the new Stalker with the UC2. Stalker is far better game in every way(atmosphere, graphics, gameplay) on the other hand UC2 is like interactive movie(boring and lame) with no freedom at all and extremely linear.


What low scores??? Do understand that pc's have more and better exclusives?

"Higher standards theory"

For example when the same game get 8.0 in all the three platforms (pc, ps3, 360) that means that:
This pc-game get 8.0 compare to the rest pc-games.
This ps3-game get 8.0 compare to the rest ps3-games.
This 360-game get 8.0 compare to the rest 360-games.

Now if we compare directly pc ps3 360 we will get something like that:
pc-game get 8.0
ps3-game get 4.0
360-game get 4.0

Because the same game on pc run with 1920x1200, 60fps 4xAA 16AF, veryhigh setting, also dedicated servers, ability to use mods etc.
The same game on consoles runs with 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA 0AF, medium setting, also NO dedicated servers, NO ability to use mods etc.
From the above reasons the same game will get different scores.


The higher standards theory is 100% correct because if we have a pc game that deserve 9.0 but this pc game have limitations 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA 0AF, medium setting, also NO dedicated servers, NO ability to use mods do you thing that this game will get a 9.0 compare to the rest pc-games? of course not.

Man you hermits need to get out more.

So how come UC2 won 50 game of the years last year? (Cows keep bragging this)

and i'm sure stalker will do the same lolz.

Face it, consoles are not that far behind PC's in terms of graphics.

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"] Wait, what? No it doesn't. Games like Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2 are as good if not better than anything on the PC.

MK-Professor

You have to understand that even the worst pc games are better than Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2.

You seroius? No please just stop.

Face it, consoles are not that far behind PC's in terms of graphics.

deathtarget04

UC2 is a damn good game thats why it deserved the awards (although batman AA was more deserving)

but that last comment is flat out wrong.

even multiplatform games on the pc compared to the consoles have a significant increase in graphics quality.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Um ok so the new Stalker that came out is better than UC2? Is thats going on?

Um no stop the standards arguement. Its a weak attempt to hide your low scores.

deathtarget04

How dare you are to try to compare the new Stalker with the UC2. Stalker is far better game in every way(atmosphere, graphics, gameplay) on the other hand UC2 is like interactive movie(boring and lame) with no freedom at all and extremely linear.


What low scores??? Do understand that pc's have more and better exclusives?

"Higher standards theory"

For example when the same game get 8.0 in all the three platforms (pc, ps3, 360) that means that:
This pc-game get 8.0 compare to the rest pc-games.
This ps3-game get 8.0 compare to the rest ps3-games.
This 360-game get 8.0 compare to the rest 360-games.

Now if we compare directly pc ps3 360 we will get something like that:
pc-game get 8.0
ps3-game get 4.0
360-game get 4.0

Because the same game on pc run with 1920x1200, 60fps 4xAA 16AF, veryhigh setting, also dedicated servers, ability to use mods etc.
The same game on consoles runs with 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA 0AF, medium setting, also NO dedicated servers, NO ability to use mods etc.
From the above reasons the same game will get different scores.


The higher standards theory is 100% correct because if we have a pc game that deserve 9.0 but this pc game have limitations 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA 0AF, medium setting, also NO dedicated servers, NO ability to use mods do you thing that this game will get a 9.0 compare to the rest pc-games? of course not.

Man you hermits need to get out more.

So how come UC2 won 50 game of the years last year? (Cows keep bragging this)

and i'm sure stalker will do the same lolz.

Face it, consoles are not that far behind PC's in terms of graphics.

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

good thing we were talking about AAs too.

Hanass

good thing this is subjective and Gamespot scores dont mean anything in the real world.

First you brag about consoles have more AAA games, then you say scores don't count RIGHT AFTER being told that PC still has more exclusives? :lol: Try to be more subtle when using double standards please.

Nice one.

Yeah w/e, I dont care at all about scores. I just pointed out that consoles have more AAA's (Hermits keep saying this for some reason)

And no bragging that one persons opinion is the all mighty truth, ha no.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

good thing this is subjective and Gamespot scores dont mean anything in the real world.

deathtarget04

First you brag about consoles have more AAA games, then you say scores don't count RIGHT AFTER being told that PC still has more exclusives? :lol: Try to be more subtle when using double standards please.

Nice one.

Yeah w/e, I dont care at all about scores. I just pointed out that consoles have more AAA's (Hermits keep saying this for some reason)

And no bragging that one persons opinion is the all mighty truth, ha no.

If you didn't care about scores, then you wouldn't be bashing STALKER because it got an 8 here.

Because the same game on pc run with 1920x1200, 60fps 4xAA 16AF, veryhigh setting, also dedicated servers, ability to use mods etc.
The same game on consoles runs with 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA 0AF, medium setting, also NO dedicated servers, NO ability to use mods etc.
From the above reasons the same game will get different scores.


The higher standards theory is 100% correct because if we have a pc game that deserve 9.0 but this pc game have limitations 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA 0AF, medium setting, also NO dedicated servers, NO ability to use mods do you thing that this game will get a 9.0 compare to the rest pc-games? of course not.

MK-Professor

it has nothing to do with that. fact is pc FPSs RTS adventure, Action, and generally most types of games have been around on the pc longer other than sports and platformers. theres more games.

its like this imagine you have 2 food critic. one food critic has gone to 2000 french resturantes in his career the other is just starting and has hit maybe 3.

the first critics standards will be higher honed over the many places visited. it takes a lot more to impress. hes handed out 8s and 9s. his exact standards have been crafted. the other one not so much. he is still learning what to expect.

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Face it, consoles are not that far behind PC's in terms of graphics.

washd123

UC2 is a damn good game thats why it deserved the awards (although batman AA was more deserving)

but that last comment is flat out wrong.

even multiplatform games on the pc compared to the consoles have a significant increase in graphics quality.

I would assume so.

But still compared to a generation ago, Consoles definitley have improved. Whether or not you want to admit it or not, consoles ARE getting better grpahics.

The gap was huge. Now its still noticeable but i bet by in a few more gens they could be neck and neck (Ha just speculating i bet PC hardware will get better also)

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

First you brag about consoles have more AAA games, then you say scores don't count RIGHT AFTER being told that PC still has more exclusives? :lol: Try to be more subtle when using double standards please.

Hanass

Nice one.

Yeah w/e, I dont care at all about scores. I just pointed out that consoles have more AAA's (Hermits keep saying this for some reason)

And no bragging that one persons opinion is the all mighty truth, ha no.

If you didn't care about scores, then you wouldn't be bashing STALKER because it got an 8 here.

Touche again (Man your on a roll)

8 is a great score. But i would have to play it in order to judge its entierty.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Nice one.

Yeah w/e, I dont care at all about scores. I just pointed out that consoles have more AAA's (Hermits keep saying this for some reason)

And no bragging that one persons opinion is the all mighty truth, ha no.

deathtarget04

If you didn't care about scores, then you wouldn't be bashing STALKER because it got an 8 here.

Touche again (Man your on a roll)

8 is a great score. But i would have to play it in order to judge its entierty.

:| Is this some sort of indirect mocking? I had no intention of "dissing" you; I was just pointing out flaws in your reasoning.

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

If you didn't care about scores, then you wouldn't be bashing STALKER because it got an 8 here.

Hanass

Touche again (Man your on a roll)

8 is a great score. But i would have to play it in order to judge its entierty.

:| Is this some sort of indirect mocking?

? No mocking, you've countered my arguements and logic. And i've congratulated you.

No need to get offensive or anything. :P

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"] Wait, what? No it doesn't. Games like Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2 are as good if not better than anything on the PC.

MK-Professor

You have to understand that even the worst pc games are better than Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2.

Man you hermits need to get out more.

So how come UC2 won 50 game of the years last year? (Cows keep bragging this)

and i'm sure stalker will do the same lolz.

deathtarget04

You have to remember that games like UC2 get high score because consoles have very low standards.

All consol gamers find Uncharted 2 an excellent game but that is not true because consol gamers are used to this types of games like interactive movie (boring and lame). I mean it seemed like every five to ten minutes of gameplay that the game stopped to inject a video clip. Also it is slow, boring and has minimal interaction available, like an interactive movie that only 3 things you can do in the game Shoot, Attack, Jump. Also there is no blood when you kill someone and you don't feel convinced when you gun down the bad guys. This game is far too kiddish for my liking. Also you don't have the ability to explore and you can climb only in a few locations, this game just don't give you freedom. There is no ability to approach any problem or situation with any creativity or individualism. It is way too linear and with no replay value. Also it takes a lot of loading times.

Seriously now this game don't deserve more than 3/10
Also there are 49 PC exclusives(for the 2009) that are better than UC2…

Face it, consoles are not that far behind PC's in terms of graphics.

deathtarget04

Graphics quality between consoles and PC's is HUGE….

1920x1200 vs 1280x720 1024x600 250%-360%
4xAA vs2xAA 0xAA 100%
16xAF vs 0xAF 100%
60fps vs 25-30fps 140%
high-resolution textures vs low-resolution textures 100%
verygood lighting, shadows, physics, shaders vs poor lighting, shadows, physics, shaders 400%

So we come to the conclusion that pc's have 1200% better graphics than consoles.

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Man you hermits need to get out more.

So how come UC2 won 50 game of the years last year? (Cows keep bragging this)

and i'm sure stalker will do the same lolz.

MK-Professor

You have to remember that games like UC2 get high score because consoles have very low standards.

All consol gamers find Uncharted 2 an excellent game but that is not true because consol gamers are used to this types of games like interactive movie (boring and lame). I mean it seemed like every five to ten minutes of gameplay that the game stopped to inject a video clip. Also it is slow, boring and has minimal interaction available, like an interactive movie that only 3 things you can do in the game Shoot, Attack, Jump. Also there is no blood when you kill someone and you don't feel convinced when you gun down the bad guys. This game is far too kiddish for my liking. Also you don't have the ability to explore and you can climb only in a few locations, this game just don't give you freedom. There is no ability to approach any problem or situation with any creativity or individualism. It is way too linear and with no replay value. Also it takes a lot of loading times.

Seriously now this game don't deserve more than 3/10
Also there are 49 PC exclusives(for the 2009) that are better than UC2…

Face it, consoles are not that far behind PC's in terms of graphics.

deathtarget04

Graphics quality between consoles and PC's is HUGE….

1920x1200 vs 1280x720 1024x600 250%-360%
4xAA vs2xAA 0xAA 100%
16xAF vs 0xAF 100%
60fps vs 25-30fps 140%
high-resolution textures vs low-resolution textures 100%
verygood lighting, shadows, physics, shaders vs poor lighting, shadows, physics, shaders 400%

So we come to the conclusion that pc's have 1200% better graphics than consoles.

Okay, either this is a shtick, or you need to retake math.

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Man you hermits need to get out more.

So how come UC2 won 50 game of the years last year? (Cows keep bragging this)

and i'm sure stalker will do the same lolz.

MK-Professor

You have to remember that games like UC2 get high score because consoles have very low standards.

All consol gamers find Uncharted 2 an excellent game but that is not true because consol gamers are used to this types of games like interactive movie (boring and lame). I mean it seemed like every five to ten minutes of gameplay that the game stopped to inject a video clip. Also it is slow, boring and has minimal interaction available, like an interactive movie that only 3 things you can do in the game Shoot, Attack, Jump. Also there is no blood when you kill someone and you don't feel convinced when you gun down the bad guys. This game is far too kiddish for my liking. Also you don't have the ability to explore and you can climb only in a few locations, this game just don't give you freedom. There is no ability to approach any problem or situation with any creativity or individualism. It is way too linear and with no replay value. Also it takes a lot of loading times.

Seriously now this game don't deserve more than 3/10
Also there are 49 PC exclusives(for the 2009) that are better than UC2…

Face it, consoles are not that far behind PC's in terms of graphics.

deathtarget04

Graphics quality between consoles and PC's is HUGE….

1920x1200 vs 1280x720 1024x600 250%-360%
4xAA vs2xAA 0xAA 100%
16xAF vs 0xAF 100%
60fps vs 25-30fps 140%
high-resolution textures vs low-resolution textures 100%
verygood lighting, shadows, physics, shaders vs poor lighting, shadows, physics, shaders 400%

So we come to the conclusion that pc's have 1200% better graphics than consoles.

Dear professor. Judging by your utter fanboism, I 'm pretty certain that you don't own a console.Which automatically invalidates your opinion, because to compare two things you must have some rudimentary knowledge of both.

Now, I have both a gaming PC and a console, and I may assure you that I enjoyed Uncharted 2 far more than Crysis. The score of a game reflects the pleasure people get from it. Also, I would give an old game like Thief:The Dark Project a 10/10, even though by your twisted logic it should get 2/10 because it uses low resolution textures and low polygon models.

Graphics quality between consoles and PC's is HUGE….

1920x1200 vs 1280x720 1024x600 250%-360%
4xAA vs2xAA 0xAA 100%
16xAF vs 0xAF 100%
60fps vs 25-30fps 140%
high-resolution textures vs low-resolution textures 100%
verygood lighting, shadows, physics, shaders vs poor lighting, shadows, physics, shaders 400%

So we come to the conclusion that pc's have 1200% better graphics than consoles.

MK-Professor

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

You have to remember that games like UC2 get high score because consoles have very low standards.

All consol gamers find Uncharted 2 an excellent game but that is not true because consol gamers are used to this types of games like interactive movie (boring and lame). I mean it seemed like every five to ten minutes of gameplay that the game stopped to inject a video clip. Also it is slow, boring and has minimal interaction available, like an interactive movie that only 3 things you can do in the game Shoot, Attack, Jump. Also there is no blood when you kill someone and you don't feel convinced when you gun down the bad guys. This game is far too kiddish for my liking. Also you don't have the ability to explore and you can climb only in a few locations, this game just don't give you freedom. There is no ability to approach any problem or situation with any creativity or individualism. It is way too linear and with no replay value. Also it takes a lot of loading times.

Seriously now this game don't deserve more than 3/10
Also there are 49 PC exclusives(for the 2009) that are better than UC2…

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Face it, consoles are not that far behind PC's in terms of graphics.

KiZZo1

Graphics quality between consoles and PC's is HUGE….

1920x1200 vs 1280x720 1024x600 250%-360%
4xAA vs2xAA 0xAA 100%
16xAF vs 0xAF 100%
60fps vs 25-30fps 140%
high-resolution textures vs low-resolution textures 100%
verygood lighting, shadows, physics, shaders vs poor lighting, shadows, physics, shaders 400%

So we come to the conclusion that pc's have 1200% better graphics than consoles.

Dear professor. Judging by your utter fanboism, I 'm pretty certain that you don't own a console.Which automatically invalidates your opinion, because to compare two things you must have some rudimentary knowledge of both.

Now, I have both a gaming PC and a console, and I may assure you that I enjoyed Uncharted 2 far more than Crysis. The score of a game reflects the pleasure people get from it. Also, I would give an old game like Thief:The Dark Project a 10/10, even though by your twisted logic it should get 2/10 because it uses low resolution textures and low polygon models.

Then you haven't even play crysis and also you never had the chance to experience a good gaming system….

I've been gaming on PC's and consoles for years and I prefer console gaming, therefore console gaming > PC gaming FACT! (or yet another subjective opinion, the two things are apparently interchangable on here.) Sorry PC fanboys.Elutheria

Stop lying.