GotY 2011 Confirmed

No it doesnt do you even know what nostalgia is? it can be anything related to your past, in nintendos case in SMG they re-use the old music themes on battle ships or make those ****levels over and over again, same enemies, same everything.... which ofcourse exceptions..... Im sorry, but it has nothing to do with insecurity.... I dont find them intellectually stimulating, challenging, interesting ANYMORE.... because tbere is NOTHING there other than a child freindly game that I loved when I was pre-teen... and abit teen.... nothing more than that. Defending against my opinion so badly is more of a sign of your insecurity.PC360Wii

Gears of War 2 and Uncharted 2 are in the past, buddy...

That doesn't even make sense! :lol: What am I so insecure about???

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]

You say that as if complexity ever made a game good.

trollop_scat

^This is really what it all boils down to. The game is intended for young children, as evidenced by its E (10 years or older) rating. Just think about that - the game literally has a target audience of ten years old.

Now lets look at an avid SS defender: ChubbyGuy40. There's a chance that the 40 at the end of his nic is his age. A 40 year old man is hyping a game intended for 10 year olds. I can't comment on that any further due to the overly strict ToS at this site, but it doesn't take much imagination to get creeped out by that.

As far as the 2011 GotY, that's easy. It's Dark Souls hands down, just like Demons Souls before it. Dark Souls is basically what the Diablo franchise should've morphed into instead of that kiddy cartoon style they went with to sell more games to kids with nosey parents...

I lost a few brain cells reading this.

So, for all of you who were wailing about The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword not changing the formula, here goes:charizard1605

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] No it doesnt do you even know what nostalgia is? it can be anything related to your past, in nintendos case in SMG they re-use the old music themes on battle ships or make those ****levels over and over again, same enemies, same everything.... which ofcourse exceptions..... Im sorry, but it has nothing to do with insecurity.... I dont find them intellectually stimulating, challenging, interesting ANYMORE.... because tbere is NOTHING there other than a child freindly game that I loved when I was pre-teen... and abit teen.... nothing more than that. Defending against my opinion so badly is more of a sign of your insecurity.bbkkristian

Gears of War 2 and Uncharted 2 are in the past, buddy...

That doesn't even make sense! :lol: What am I so insecure about???

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] No it doesnt do you even know what nostalgia is? it can be anything related to your past, in nintendos case in SMG they re-use the old music themes on battle ships or make those ****levels over and over again, same enemies, same everything.... which ofcourse exceptions..... Im sorry, but it has nothing to do with insecurity.... I dont find them intellectually stimulating, challenging, interesting ANYMORE.... because tbere is NOTHING there other than a child freindly game that I loved when I was pre-teen... and abit teen.... nothing more than that. Defending against my opinion so badly is more of a sign of your insecurity.bbkkristian

Gears of War 2 and Uncharted 2 are in the past, buddy...

That doesn't even make sense! :lol: What am I so insecure about???

I believe he is calling you insecure because he is in fact the one insecure. He is the one trying to act all mature because he doesn't enjoy somehting that a younger person could also enjoy. Little do people like that know that they are infact less mature since if you were, you wouldn't be trying so hard to be

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] No it doesnt do you even know what nostalgia is? it can be anything related to your past, in nintendos case in SMG they re-use the old music themes on battle ships or make those ****levels over and over again, same enemies, same everything.... which ofcourse exceptions..... Im sorry, but it has nothing to do with insecurity.... I dont find them intellectually stimulating, challenging, interesting ANYMORE.... because tbere is NOTHING there other than a child freindly game that I loved when I was pre-teen... and abit teen.... nothing more than that. Defending against my opinion so badly is more of a sign of your insecurity.vtbob88

Gears of War 2 and Uncharted 2 are in the past, buddy...

That doesn't even make sense! :lol: What am I so insecure about???

I believe he is calling you insecure because he is in fact the one insecure. He is the one trying to act all mature because he doesn't enjoy somehting that a younger person could also enjoy. Little do people like that know that they are infact less mature since if you were, you wouldn't be trying so hard to be

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

That just sounds like a whole lot of back tracking.

bbkkristian

If they be smart about it and make other events while you backtrack, hopefully it's not just straight up backtracking.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

^This is really what it all boils down to. The game is intended for young children, as evidenced by its E (10 years or older) rating. Just think about that - the game literally has a target audience of ten years old.

Now lets look at an avid SS defender: ChubbyGuy40. There's a chance that the 40 at the end of his nic is his age. A 40 year old man is hyping a game intended for 10 year olds. I can't comment on that any further due to the overly strict ToS at this site, but it doesn't take much imagination to get creeped out by that.

As far as the 2011 GotY, that's easy. It's Dark Souls hands down, just like Demons Souls before it. Dark Souls is basically what the Diablo franchise should've morphed into instead of that kiddy cartoon style they went with to sell more games to kids with nosey parents...

PC360Wii

1. Zelda is targeted for all ages. It has the ability to appeal to both adults and children at the same time. E rating doesnt mean it can only be enjoyed by chilrdren.
2. ChubbyGuy40 is mature enough to not care if the things he enjoys are "childish". That is all there is to it. There are a 3 things in this world I consider childish: 1. To refuse to take responsibilty for your actions... and lack of them. 2. To dephend on those around you and never on yourself. 3. The fear of childishness.
3. Pretty sure a big part of Diablo is items and loot, as well as social features. 2 things lacking severly in Demons Souls. Especially social features.
4. I am in my twenties and I am reading and loving the heck out of The Wizard of Oz. A book suitable for children. What does that make me?

1) Targeted at all ages? no targeted at kids, and former zelda playing adults.... it works on some, fails on others (me for example) due to no top end of anything being presented in the games.

2) Whos afraid of childeshness. the game is designed for kids on an intellectual level and theme.... and yet you lot are the ones afraid of childishness by being so concerned that I am saying you are playing a game designed for kids in int property and appeal.... but because you grew up on them your convinced they are for adults too :roll:

3) cant agree more. and Diablo III doesnt look at all kiddish....

4) Comparing a book to an easily designed kids adventure game is next to impossible.... as like ive said, it isnt the childish "theme" that is the problem, its the property that fails to satisfy me.... zelda is nothing.... what can it provide that skyrim cant on a much grander level and to an adult? exploration? weaponry? action? epic encounters? VOICE ACTING.... lenght?

Its a boring old forumlar that has aged as not stimulating to my mind... end of story really... I was impressed as a kid... im not longer a kid.

The game isn't designed for children either.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]What bugs me even more is when a game does have voice acting, and it's so terrible that it ruins the experience like Shadows of the Damned.

Bigboi500

SOTD=bad voice acting.... does not compute. THe VO was well done imo.

Thats the thing as we can see here that good voice work also falls into opinion. I loved SOTD voice work heck I beat the game 3 times. I didint find the jokes embarrassing at all. The game knows its not trying to be some deep thought provoking game. I dont mind the risk since it would be something different for the series. End of the day no matter what some will like it some will hate it.

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] No it doesnt do you even know what nostalgia is? it can be anything related to your past, in nintendos case in SMG they re-use the old music themes on battle ships or make those ****levels over and over again, same enemies, same everything.... which ofcourse exceptions..... Im sorry, but it has nothing to do with insecurity.... I dont find them intellectually stimulating, challenging, interesting ANYMORE.... because tbere is NOTHING there other than a child freindly game that I loved when I was pre-teen... and abit teen.... nothing more than that. Defending against my opinion so badly is more of a sign of your insecurity.PC360Wii

Gears of War 2 and Uncharted 2 are in the past, buddy...

That doesn't even make sense! :lol: What am I so insecure about???

Still doesn't make sense! I'm insecure? I'm more SECURE about what I believe in! :lol:

There is no set limit on what makes something Nostalgic in terms of time. Yeah, maybe its implied to you, but the technical definition makes it over any period of time.

[QUOTE="vtbob88"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

Gears of War 2 and Uncharted 2 are in the past, buddy...

That doesn't even make sense! :lol: What am I so insecure about???

PC360Wii

I believe he is calling you insecure because he is in fact the one insecure. He is the one trying to act all mature because he doesn't enjoy somehting that a younger person could also enjoy. Little do people like that know that they are infact less mature since if you were, you wouldn't be trying so hard to be

Well if you can enjoy any game, why do you give other people a hard time enjoying a game series that has some of the highest rated games of all time. The general consensus for Zelda games are that they are great, well done, consistently enjoyable games whether or not you do not like them.

And like I brought up before to someone else, do you count all Pixar movies as little kids movies and unenjoyable? I would assume so since they are seen as highly reviewed movies

BTW where are you getting all this info, you just kinda posted it without any links backing it up.

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

That just sounds like a whole lot of back tracking.

GD1551

If they be smart about it and make other events while you backtrack, hopefully it's not just straight up backtracking.

A bunch of zelda avatars assuming im insecure because I call and easy kids adventure game for what it is.... and yet I play pretty much anygame regaurdless of theme. funny that.... but unlike zelda it has to be up to date, have some depth and be .... good.PC360Wii

An easy shallow kids adventure game that has a higher score average than your favorite game :)

I'm referring to Ocarina of Time if you're not aware.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]

You say that as if complexity ever made a game good.

trollop_scat

^This is really what it all boils down to. The game is intended for young children, as evidenced by its E (10 years or older) rating. Just think about that - the game literally has a target audience of ten years old.

Now lets look at an avid SS defender: ChubbyGuy40. There's a chance that the 40 at the end of his nic is his age. A 40 year old man is hyping a game intended for 10 year olds. I can't comment on that any further due to the overly strict ToS at this site, but it doesn't take much imagination to get creeped out by that.

As far as the 2011 GotY, that's easy. It's Dark Souls hands down, just like Demons Souls before it. Dark Souls is basically what the Diablo franchise should've morphed into instead of that kiddy cartoon style they went with to sell more games to kids with nosey parents...

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="vtbob88"]

I believe he is calling you insecure because he is in fact the one insecure. He is the one trying to act all mature because he doesn't enjoy somehting that a younger person could also enjoy. Little do people like that know that they are infact less mature since if you were, you wouldn't be trying so hard to be

vtbob88

Well if you can enjoy any game, why do you give other people a hard time enjoying a game series that has some of the highest rated games of all time. The general consensus for Zelda games are that they are great, well done, consistently enjoyable games whether or not you do not like them.

And like I brought up before to someone else, do you count all Pixar movies as little kids movies and unenjoyable? I would assume so since they are seen as highly reviewed movies

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

^This is really what it all boils down to. The game is intended for young children, as evidenced by its E (10 years or older) rating. Just think about that - the game literally has a target audience of ten years old.

Now lets look at an avid SS defender: ChubbyGuy40. There's a chance that the 40 at the end of his nic is his age. A 40 year old man is hyping a game intended for 10 year olds. I can't comment on that any further due to the overly strict ToS at this site, but it doesn't take much imagination to get creeped out by that.

As far as the 2011 GotY, that's easy. It's Dark Souls hands down, just like Demons Souls before it. Dark Souls is basically what the Diablo franchise should've morphed into instead of that kiddy cartoon style they went with to sell more games to kids with nosey parents...

PC360Wii

1. Zelda is targeted for all ages. It has the ability to appeal to both adults and children at the same time. E rating doesnt mean it can only be enjoyed by chilrdren.
2. ChubbyGuy40 is mature enough to not care if the things he enjoys are "childish". That is all there is to it. There are a 3 things in this world I consider childish: 1. To refuse to take responsibilty for your actions... and lack of them. 2. To dephend on those around you and never on yourself. 3. The fear of childishness.
3. Pretty sure a big part of Diablo is items and loot, as well as social features. 2 things lacking severly in Demons Souls. Especially social features.
4. I am in my twenties and I am reading and loving the heck out of The Wizard of Oz. A book suitable for children. What does that make me?

1) Targeted at all ages? no targeted at kids, and former zelda playing adults.... it works on some, fails on others (me for example) due to no top end of anything being presented in the games.

2) Whos afraid of childeshness. the game is designed for kids on an intellectual level and theme.... and yet you lot are the ones afraid of childishness by being so concerned that I am saying you are playing a game designed for kids in int property and appeal.... but because you grew up on them your convinced they are for adults too :roll:

3) cant agree more. and Diablo III doesnt look at all kiddish....

4) Comparing a book to an easily designed kids adventure game is next to impossible.... as like ive said, it isnt the childish "theme" that is the problem, its the property that fails to satisfy me.... zelda is nothing.... what can it provide that skyrim cant on a much grander level and to an adult? exploration? weaponry? action? epic encounters? VOICE ACTING.... lenght?

Its a boring old forumlar that has aged as not stimulating to my mind... end of story really... I was impressed as a kid... im not longer a kid.

1+2. Wind Waker and Majora's Mask have intelligent stories. Much more intelligent than anything ever put out by Blizzard. Zelda is targeted for all ages.

Oh boy Skyrim. What a terrible game that is gonna be.

1. I prefer to explore the more varied environments seen in Zelda than the bland environments seen so far in Skyrim. Furthermore, why is it that they have kept showing the same area over and over again, something is fishy.
2. Action in Skyrim looks terrible, unless you enjoy melee combat that is composed of rubbing your weapon on the enemy till he dies. Oh and dual wielding weapons is completely pointless according to previews I have read. So, so much for that feature.
3. You mean fighting the enemy that uses the same tactics over and over again is epic that gets old fast. Furthermore, Bethesda messed up the dragons entirely. Instead of limiting the number of dragons and focused on making each dragon unique, they made the dragons infinite and generic. Besides fighting dragons will get old pretty fast. They will lose their edge quickly.
4. Voice acting sucks 99% of the time anyway.

Furthermore, Skyward Sword will most likely have better story, level design, boss design, puzzle design, writing, ect.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]A bunch of zelda avatars assuming im insecure because I call and easy kids adventure game for what it is.... and yet I play pretty much anygame regaurdless of theme. funny that.... but unlike zelda it has to be up to date, have some depth and be .... good.bobcheeseball

An easy shallow kids adventure game that has a higher score average than your favorite game :)

I'm referring to Ocarina of Time if you're not aware.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]A bunch of zelda avatars assuming im insecure because I call and easy kids adventure game for what it is.... and yet I play pretty much anygame regaurdless of theme. funny that.... but unlike zelda it has to be up to date, have some depth and be .... good.bobcheeseball

An easy shallow kids adventure game that has a higher score average than your favorite game :)

"Those meddling kids!!"

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

1. Zelda is targeted for all ages. It has the ability to appeal to both adults and children at the same time. E rating doesnt mean it can only be enjoyed by chilrdren.
2. ChubbyGuy40 is mature enough to not care if the things he enjoys are "childish". That is all there is to it. There are a 3 things in this world I consider childish: 1. To refuse to take responsibilty for your actions... and lack of them. 2. To dephend on those around you and never on yourself. 3. The fear of childishness.
3. Pretty sure a big part of Diablo is items and loot, as well as social features. 2 things lacking severly in Demons Souls. Especially social features.
4. I am in my twenties and I am reading and loving the heck out of The Wizard of Oz. A book suitable for children. What does that make me?

Maroxad

1) Targeted at all ages? no targeted at kids, and former zelda playing adults.... it works on some, fails on others (me for example) due to no top end of anything being presented in the games.

2) Whos afraid of childeshness. the game is designed for kids on an intellectual level and theme.... and yet you lot are the ones afraid of childishness by being so concerned that I am saying you are playing a game designed for kids in int property and appeal.... but because you grew up on them your convinced they are for adults too :roll:

3) cant agree more. and Diablo III doesnt look at all kiddish....

4) Comparing a book to an easily designed kids adventure game is next to impossible.... as like ive said, it isnt the childish "theme" that is the problem, its the property that fails to satisfy me.... zelda is nothing.... what can it provide that skyrim cant on a much grander level and to an adult? exploration? weaponry? action? epic encounters? VOICE ACTING.... lenght?

Its a boring old forumlar that has aged as not stimulating to my mind... end of story really... I was impressed as a kid... im not longer a kid.

1+2. Wind Waker and Majora's Mask have intelligent stories. Much more intelligent than anything ever put out by Blizzard. Zelda is targeted for all ages.

Oh boy Skyrim. What a terrible game that is gonna be.

1. I prefer to explore the more varied vistas seen in Zelda than the bland environments seen so far in Skyrim. Furthermore, why is it that they have kept showing the same area over and over again, something is fishy.
2. Action in Skyrim looks terrible, unless you enjoy melee combat that is composed of rubbing your weapon on the enemy till he dies. Oh and dual wielding weapons is completely pointless according to previews I have read. So, so much for that feature.
3. You mean fighting the enemy that uses the same tactics over and over again is epic that gets old fast. Furthermore, Bethesda messed up the dragons entirely. Instead of limiting the number of dragons and focused on making each dragon unique, they made the dragons infinite and generic. Besides fighting dragons will get old pretty fast. They will lose their edge quickly. Voice acting sucks 99% of the time anyway.

Furthermore, Skyward Sword will most likely have better story, level design, boss design, puzzle design, writing, ect.

1. You mean the standard water, fire, air whatever vistas and a whole lot of empty sky? good for you.... double standard right there :roll:

2. Action in zelda looks terrible same old hack n slash which barely improves/changes over the course of the game, oh get that mandatory chest dropped bow or hookshot ready im sure youl need them for the millionth time.... again a massive double standard.... at least skyrim has variety in classes and gameplay styles.... another example of how easily amused zelda fans are.

3. double standard as zelda will have less enemy variety and do the exact same theme... oh but dem 3 hit bosses that do the same patter over and over!. how is that messing up dragons? there will be story ones aswell..... but then I suppose your happier with zeldas generic small idiotic enemies that spawn on fields right.... yea....

if you say so...

Thank you for the great news Charizard! I hope this gets 9.5 and maybe even GOTY now!:) Galaxy 2 was a terrific game, but I have a feeling that as per usual, Zelda is the best IP on Nintendo's consoles!:D (Ok minus Super Metroid...)

Dark Souls is GOTY 2011

I hope it's not as Ocarina of Time-ish as well... Orcarina of Time is! :P

That's the only Zelda game I ever played seriously (it was the GC one), but stopped last summer (2010) after getting the VC SM64.

I just didn't care of the lore of the tree folks. But I liked the game a decent amount, and am willing to finish it.

Another friend of mine is willing to lend me Twilight Princess. This of course, is the same one I bought him 3 (4?) years ago for his birthday. As a Wii-only owner, he constantly says how amazing TP is (he's a huge Zelda fan) and how the 360 and PS3 don't have any games that have compelled him in the same way.

Of course, my face looks like this:

I always tell him the (true) fact that he's never played above two hours of any HD exclusive. A point that *should* shut him down, unfortunetly, this guy was on my old high school debate team, so arguing with him is useless. :P

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

1) Targeted at all ages? no targeted at kids, and former zelda playing adults.... it works on some, fails on others (me for example) due to no top end of anything being presented in the games.

2) Whos afraid of childeshness. the game is designed for kids on an intellectual level and theme.... and yet you lot are the ones afraid of childishness by being so concerned that I am saying you are playing a game designed for kids in int property and appeal.... but because you grew up on them your convinced they are for adults too :roll:

3) cant agree more. and Diablo III doesnt look at all kiddish....

4) Comparing a book to an easily designed kids adventure game is next to impossible.... as like ive said, it isnt the childish "theme" that is the problem, its the property that fails to satisfy me.... zelda is nothing.... what can it provide that skyrim cant on a much grander level and to an adult? exploration? weaponry? action? epic encounters? VOICE ACTING.... lenght?

Its a boring old forumlar that has aged as not stimulating to my mind... end of story really... I was impressed as a kid... im not longer a kid.

PC360Wii

1+2. Wind Waker and Majora's Mask have intelligent stories. Much more intelligent than anything ever put out by Blizzard. Zelda is targeted for all ages.

Oh boy Skyrim. What a terrible game that is gonna be.

1. I prefer to explore the more varied vistas seen in Zelda than the bland environments seen so far in Skyrim. Furthermore, why is it that they have kept showing the same area over and over again, something is fishy.
2. Action in Skyrim looks terrible, unless you enjoy melee combat that is composed of rubbing your weapon on the enemy till he dies. Oh and dual wielding weapons is completely pointless according to previews I have read. So, so much for that feature.
3. You mean fighting the enemy that uses the same tactics over and over again is epic that gets old fast. Furthermore, Bethesda messed up the dragons entirely. Instead of limiting the number of dragons and focused on making each dragon unique, they made the dragons infinite and generic. Besides fighting dragons will get old pretty fast. They will lose their edge quickly. Voice acting sucks 99% of the time anyway.

Furthermore, Skyward Sword will most likely have better story, level design, boss design, puzzle design, writing, ect.

1. You mean the standard water, fire, air whatever vistas and a whole lot of empty sky? good for you.... double standard right there :roll:

2. Action in zelda looks terrible same old hack n slash which barely improves/changes over the course of the game, oh get that mandatory chest dropped bow or hookshot ready im sure youl need them for the millionth time.... again a massive double standard.... at least skyrim has variety in classes and gameplay styles.... another example of how easily amused zelda fans are.

3. double standard as zelda will have less enemy variety and do the exact same theme... oh but dem 3 hit bosses that do the same patter over and over!. how is that messing up dragons? there will be story ones aswell..... but then I suppose your happier with zeldas generic small idiotic enemies that spawn on fields right.... yea....

if you say so...

1. Which is still more varied than the mountains and snow you get in Skyrim. Not to mention the vistas will most likely have a lot of different themes.
2. It still changes up more than the weapon rubbing you get in Skyrim. Except combat doesnt become a chore. In Oblivion and morrowind my reaction to an enemy was "oh no, not another foe". Whereas in Zelda I am mostly indifferent to encountering enemies. In Oblivion, EACH and EVERY enemy you face is fought the exact same way.
3. No it wont have less enemy variety. Zelda will have less models most likely, but the enemies themselves will be more varied.

Why Skyrim messed up with the dragons? Ever heard of redundancy?

Sure you might go omg a dragon the first 3 times or so, but once you fought your 10th dragon, it just loses its effect. They could have added 50 dragons or so roaming around the gameworld making each and every one unique, but alas they made them infinite and redundant.

And even though the AI isnt perfect in Zelda games, I am sure they are still better than the terrible AI we will most likely see in Skyrim.

Can't wait for this game. Will be amazing.

Let me explain something about the E rating to those of you out there who are obviously confused. When it says E 10+, its stating that the game is suitable for ten year olds, right?

Q: What's the speed of any given naval convoy? A: The top speed of the slowest ship.

This means that while playing Zelda you are doing things that any average ten year old could do. What feeling of accomplishment could one possibly gain from that?

Now look at Dark Souls, a game that makes adults cry out in frustration and pump their fists in elation after completing a particularly difficult part of the game. See the difference?

Ten year olds shouldn't go anywhere near Dark Souls. The oppressive atmospheres, the seriously creepy monsters, the difficulty... kids and simpletons simply cannot hang. The only way Zelda SS wins GotY over Dark Souls is if gamespot replaces their reviewers with a team of 6th grade girls...

trollop_scat

That actually seems.... interesting.

Well I don't like the point about the return to each dungeon, I hate just traveling across a map to grab something and running back. Unless there's a fast travel (there won't be) its going to be obnoxious. The game looks solid in the other points. Zelda's your lady from the stop, Ganon is a noob, and the tri force has never been stolen before.

Let me explain something about the E rating to those of you out there who are obviously confused. When it says E 10+, its stating that the game is suitable for ten year olds, right?

Q: What's the speed of any given naval convoy? A: The top speed of the slowest ship.

This means that while playing Zelda you are doing things that any average ten year old could do. What feeling of accomplishment could one possibly gain from that?

Now look at Dark Souls, a game that makes adults cry out in frustration and pump their fists in elation after completing a particularly difficult part of the game. See the difference?

Ten year olds shouldn't go anywhere near Dark Souls. The oppressive atmospheres, the seriously creepy monsters, the difficulty... kids and simpletons simply cannot hang. The only way Zelda SS wins GotY over Dark Souls is if gamespot replaces their reviewers with a team of 6th grade girls...

trollop_scat

Um...Dark Souls isn't a typical M rated game on the market. The difficulty of that game is exponentially higher than the average so called "mature game". To counter your argument, Gears of War 2 is rated M for mature. I'm fairly certain the average 10 year old would have no problem completing it in the average or above average difficulty.

Also, Donkey Kong Country Returns is also rated E, and for what its worth, its pretty much harder than most of the M rated games on my 360.

So...I hate to break it to you, but your logic is null.

Zelda is Link's girlfriend.

Fan fiction writers have invaded Nintendo successfully.

Fan fiction writers have invaded Nintendo successfully.mmmwksil

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]Fan fiction writers have invaded Nintendo successfully.foxhound_fox

I'm certain Nintendo won't fumble this. :P

I am so dying to play this... probably as much as every other Zelda fan out there.

Okay, that list looks really amazing. I just pre-ordered the Gold Remote bundle off Amazon. I'm probably going to carry it around in my pants wherever I go for the first week that I have the game.

Dark Souls ain't got nothing on this.

Well I was going to come in here to say that your answer should be Zelda.But hey you beat me too it! Good on ya. Moving on then, nothing to see here (except the GotY :P)

I pre-ordered my copy already. Don't know about GOTY. Can't decide that until I play it first. Gears of War 3, Uncharted 3, Witcher 2 all have a shot I guess.

i hope its good

The GOTY will have the word Sky in the title.

The GOTY will have the word Sky in the title.

Big_Pecks

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Its about damn time Nintendo takes on a romance sub-narrative.trollop_scat

Sick dude, the game is for ten year olds...

You can push your flawed logic that the game is aimed at 10 year olds all you want, but it won't make it any less flawed.

Sick dude, the game is for ten year olds...

trollop_scat

And? There are plenty of series that are aimed at "children," yet that doesn't stop teenagers, adults, ect from enjoying them. Look at that horrible cartoon My Little Pony. It's aimed at 10 year old girls, but it's majority fanbase is 18-24 year old males.

Let me explain something about the E rating to those of you out there who are obviously confused. When it says E 10+, its stating that the game is suitable for ten year olds, right?

Q: What's the speed of any given naval convoy? A: The top speed of the slowest ship.

This means that while playing Zelda you are doing things that any average ten year old could do. What feeling of accomplishment could one possibly gain from that?

Now look at Dark Souls, a game that makes adults cry out in frustration and pump their fists in elation after completing a particularly difficult part of the game. See the difference?

Ten year olds shouldn't go anywhere near Dark Souls. The oppressive atmospheres, the seriously creepy monsters, the difficulty... kids and simpletons simply cannot hang. The only way Zelda SS wins GotY over Dark Souls is if gamespot replaces their reviewers with a team of 6th grade girls...

trollop_scat

How hilariously incorrect. That's factually false as evidenced by the definition of ESRB's regulations. It's a way to discern that a game is good for anyone above a certain age. So a game that is E +10 is suitable for everyone ABOVE the age of 10. To put this in perspective, GoW is an M game, but is one of the most juvenile games I've played. To judge a game based on its ESRB is foolish to put it lightly.

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Sick dude, the game is for ten year olds...

What the hell is this guys point??? The rating has absolutely nothing to do with the difficulty of the game. The rating takes into account Violence, Language, Drinking, Sexual themes. The people rating the game do not consider the difficulty.

So by tollop_scat's logic, if there was blood added into a zelda game, with not a single thing changed other than that so the entire gameplay and story are the same, it will now be a game meant to challenge "mature" people. Yeah, that makes a good amount of sense.

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Sick dude, the game is for ten year olds...

ChubbyGuy40

And? There are plenty of series that are aimed at "children," yet that doesn't stop teenagers, adults, ect from enjoying them. Look at that horrible cartoon My Little Pony. It's aimed at 10 year old girls, but it's majority fanbase is 18-24 year old males.

I think you are referring to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. I haven't watched it myself but it's reputed to be a high-quality cartoon that is both cleverly written and genuinely entertaining. Read out of that as you will.

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Sick dude, the game is for ten year olds...

trollop_scat

You can push your flawed logic that the game is aimed at 10 year olds all you want, but it won't make it any less flawed.

The game says 10+ on the box!That means parents are supposed to be able to leave their 10 year old kids alone with the game without supervision.

While the game isn't intended soley for 10 year olds, 10 year olds are indeed a big part of the demographic Nintendo intends to sell the game to. Anyone else playing it is playing down to a pre-teen child's level; in terms of simple gameplay mechanics, by-the-numbers fairy tale story, enemy design, level design... a ten year old is considered fit to experience it, according to THEIR logic/reasoning. Not mine.

If you can remain amused by a game suited for a pre-teen, good for you, I guess. Santa may even bring you your copy if you fit in a few good deeds before the end of the year. I'm routing for you...

I like the fact that you think the ESRB define what is and isn't kids material. SMG2, an E game, has IMO the best design of any game this generation. Oh, but I'm supposedly at a "pre-school" level at that point. Herp-de-derp.