Digital Foundry Analysis BF4 (PS4 vs Xbone)

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#301 btk2k2
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@danabo said:

@greensand24 said:

@kellykelly:

See you're not doing yourself any favors here because based on those Gifs I think the One shots look better.

Meh ps4 wins I guess based on the DF comparison but for cows to say it destroys it based on a 2-4 frame difference is hilarious. Really?

DF aside though there are some comparison shots that look better on the One.

It only appears to look better on the Xbox One.

If you close your eyes and think of the hardware then the PS4 version looks better.

Only if you like the sharp, high contrast images the X1 puts out. Which you can also achieve by changing the setting on your TV. Here is what it looks like when you have the same sharpness and contrast in both images.

http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif (8MB)

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#302  Edited By danabo
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@btk2k2 said:

@danabo said:

@greensand24 said:

@kellykelly:

See you're not doing yourself any favors here because based on those Gifs I think the One shots look better.

Meh ps4 wins I guess based on the DF comparison but for cows to say it destroys it based on a 2-4 frame difference is hilarious. Really?

DF aside though there are some comparison shots that look better on the One.

It only appears to look better on the Xbox One.

If you close your eyes and think of the hardware then the PS4 version looks better.

Only if you like the sharp, high contrast images the X1 puts out. Which you can also achieve by changing the setting on your TV. Here is what it looks like when you have the same sharpness and contrast in both images.

http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif (8MB)



lol


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#303 kuu2
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Love the DC even after pics come out.

'DF is a paid MSoft shill.'

'SonyGaf has the correct pictures.'

'Bbbbbut it is in 900p.'

And yet The One still looks better in areas and there will be a patch on day one making the game look even better. Sony Fan gets blasted again.

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#304  Edited By btk2k2
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@danabo said:

@btk2k2 said:

@danabo said:

@greensand24 said:

@kellykelly:

See you're not doing yourself any favors here because based on those Gifs I think the One shots look better.

Meh ps4 wins I guess based on the DF comparison but for cows to say it destroys it based on a 2-4 frame difference is hilarious. Really?

DF aside though there are some comparison shots that look better on the One.

It only appears to look better on the Xbox One.

If you close your eyes and think of the hardware then the PS4 version looks better.

Only if you like the sharp, high contrast images the X1 puts out. Which you can also achieve by changing the setting on your TV. Here is what it looks like when you have the same sharpness and contrast in both images.

http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif (8MB)

lol

Xbox One > PS4, confirmed!

Well, only if the image capture has been fucked up. like so http://n4g.com/news/1382809/digital-foundry-admits-to-botching-battlefield-4-ps4-xb1-video-capature#selcomment

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#305  Edited By danabo
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@kuu2 said:

Love the DC even after pics come out.

'DF is a paid MSoft shill.'

'SonyGaf has the correct pictures.'

'Bbbbbut it is in 900p.'

And yet The One still looks better in areas and there will be a patch on day one making the game look even better. Sony Fan gets blasted again.

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

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#306  Edited By tormentos
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@waltefmoney said:

Xbox One version will look even better than the comparisons :)

Yeah and performance will drop to high 20's,dude already the PS4 is as much as 14 FPS faster,there is a reason why AO wasn't included on that demo time i am sure wasn't the reason,AO will deliver a hit to performance on a game that already was running as low as 34 FPS.

@greensand24 said:

@kellykelly:

See you're not doing yourself any favors here because based on those Gifs I think the One shots look better.

Meh ps4 wins I guess based on the DF comparison but for cows to say it destroys it based on a 2-4 frame difference is hilarious. Really?

DF aside though there are some comparison shots that look better on the One.

See the screen i posted a few post up as much as 14 FPS difference in some parts,while having AO on the PS4 version and the xbox version lacking it,AO will deliver a hit to performance so yeah expect even lower frames on the xbox one version.

20 FPS hit across the board basically so yeah,it will hit performance and the PS4 hardware already has been hit,the xbox one version hasn't,so those 2 to 4 with AO could be more like 7 to 10,and much bigger drops on intense scenes.

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#307  Edited By danabo
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@tormentos said:


"but teh graphs and specs"

lol

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#308 waltefmoney
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@kuu2 said:

Love the DC even after pics come out.

'DF is a paid MSoft shill.'

'SonyGaf has the correct pictures.'

'Bbbbbut it is in 900p.'

And yet The One still looks better in areas and there will be a patch on day one making the game look even better. Sony Fan gets blasted again.

Well deserved after all the misinformation and all the anti-xbox propaganda. "bu but the developer tools are barely functional, games will look like shit on xbox one, ESRAM holding back, difference bigger than PS2 and original Xbox"

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#309  Edited By Kinthalis
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PS4 - noticeable pop up, lower quality DOF, missing effects, lower resolution, inferior lighting, inferior AA.

Wow. PC for the win.

Just doible checking the video, it looks like the PS4 has a crappy DOF, more like blur filter, while the Xbone has NO depth of field, or an even shittier filter.

The PC's Bokeh depth fo field, on the other hand, is gorgeous. Better than in Crysis 3, IMHO.

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#310  Edited By btk2k2
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@waltefmoney said:
@kuu2 said:

Love the DC even after pics come out.

'DF is a paid MSoft shill.'

'SonyGaf has the correct pictures.'

'Bbbbbut it is in 900p.'

And yet The One still looks better in areas and there will be a patch on day one making the game look even better. Sony Fan gets blasted again.

Well deserved after all the misinformation and all the anti-xbox propaganda. "bu but the developer tools are barely functional, games will look like shit on xbox one, ESRAM holding back, difference bigger than PS2 and original Xbox"

So Higher res + higher average frame rate + more effects does not show that the PS4 is significantly faster than the X1? Sure the X1 pictures look sharp but that can be set up by everybody at home on their TV so if they want the PS4 to have that same appearance of high contrast + sharpened image they can. Those settings are not exclusive to the X1. However the higher res, the better effects, fewer jaggies are all exclusive to the PS4 version.

If you like the look of the X1 images then great, set your TVs contrast and sharpness to 100 and enjoy.

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#311 XBOunity
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That blurred washed out color strikes again. Watched all videos not just df. Wow cant believe it I was expecting a huge difference. Cows are really nervous and trying any angle is all you need to know. Also dissapointed by the scores bf4 is getting 8s

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@Kinthalis said:

PS4 - noticeable pop up, lower quality DOF, missing effects, lower resolution, inferior lighting, inferior AA.

Wow. PC for the win.

Any sane person would never argue that the PC is where the best version will be. I just don't have any time to constantly tweek a PC for optimum performance. The consoles are plug and play. I will say though that all these patches necessary for these systems is totally ridiculous and defeats the purpose of why I buy consoles instead of a PC for gaming.

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#313  Edited By waltefmoney
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@btk2k2 said:

@waltefmoney said:
@kuu2 said:

Love the DC even after pics come out.

'DF is a paid MSoft shill.'

'SonyGaf has the correct pictures.'

'Bbbbbut it is in 900p.'

And yet The One still looks better in areas and there will be a patch on day one making the game look even better. Sony Fan gets blasted again.

Well deserved after all the misinformation and all the anti-xbox propaganda. "bu but the developer tools are barely functional, games will look like shit on xbox one, ESRAM holding back, difference bigger than PS2 and original Xbox"

So Higher res + higher average frame rate + more effects does not show that the PS4 is significantly faster than the X1? Sure the X1 pictures look sharp but that can be set up by everybody at home on their TV so if they want the PS4 to have that same appearance of high contrast + sharpened image they can. Those settings are not exclusive to the X1. However the higher res, the better effects, fewer jaggies are all exclusive to the PS4 version.

If you like the look of the X1 images then great, set your TVs contrast and sharpness to 100 and enjoy.

Tthe PS4 version is just blurry as ****

Based on all comparisons the performance is pretty much identical between both. Both versions run better than the other one at times, sometimes the PS4 runs way better while in other times the Xbox One version runs better.

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#314 danabo
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Apparently - if you tilt your head, stand on one leg, close one eye and hum - then the PS4 version looks almost as good as the superior Xbox One version.

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#315  Edited By Krelian-co
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hahha, lems are delusional confirmed.

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#316 YD_11
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So are these pics and video supposed to make the ps4 version look better? In some, yes but X1 in some too so i'm not sure where the ownage is supposed to be coming from. The article even says X1 has better qualities than the ps4 in areas just as ps4 does. Is that all the "better" the ps4 is supposed to be?? Lol, hang on to the "better" looking game fanboys while most wont notice and be able to have so much more on the x1.

It looks like the X1 will in fact be the best choice imo.

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PS4 seems to have some sort of blur accross the entire screen and Xbox has some crappy contrast going on. Both are shit console kids have no doubt become acustomed to last gen.

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#318 foliagecounter
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@shawn30 said:

@Couth_ said:

While they both looked like ass, xbone version looks better in some areas. Scaler chip secret sauce?

All BS aside, I cannot tell the difference between them. And to be honest to me the Xbox version looks better. More pics please!

Look at the iphone sized thing on the dashboard of the vehicle... XO has more aliasing... this is further shown by the left side of the windshield directly in front of the driver's face.

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@Kinthalis said:

PS4 - noticeable pop up, lower quality DOF, missing effects, lower resolution, inferior lighting, inferior AA.

Wow. PC for the win.

Just doible checking the video, it looks like the PS4 has a crappy DOF, more like blur filter, while the Xbone has NO depth of field, or an even shittier filter.

The PC's Bokeh depth fo field, on the other hand, is gorgeous. Better than in Crysis 3, IMHO.

ty sherlock

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@foliagecounter: xbox doesnt even have all the effects according to johannson of df. Didnt make it to the video. I lol the xbo once again has better colors. Dat washed out look lol on ps4

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Word is coming out now that old builds were used for these comparisons for both consoles. There is even a rumor from Kevin Dent https://twitter.com/TheKevinDent. That the build that Giess had seen in the environment is not the one that Dice will be showing tonight for X1 that will actually be..............1080p. Don't shoot the messenger but this is confirmed by a Dice dev himself. This is going to be another wild night if all this is true.

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#322 btk2k2
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@waltefmoney said:

@btk2k2 said:

@waltefmoney said:
@kuu2 said:

Love the DC even after pics come out.

'DF is a paid MSoft shill.'

'SonyGaf has the correct pictures.'

'Bbbbbut it is in 900p.'

And yet The One still looks better in areas and there will be a patch on day one making the game look even better. Sony Fan gets blasted again.

Well deserved after all the misinformation and all the anti-xbox propaganda. "bu but the developer tools are barely functional, games will look like shit on xbox one, ESRAM holding back, difference bigger than PS2 and original Xbox"

So Higher res + higher average frame rate + more effects does not show that the PS4 is significantly faster than the X1? Sure the X1 pictures look sharp but that can be set up by everybody at home on their TV so if they want the PS4 to have that same appearance of high contrast + sharpened image they can. Those settings are not exclusive to the X1. However the higher res, the better effects, fewer jaggies are all exclusive to the PS4 version.

If you like the look of the X1 images then great, set your TVs contrast and sharpness to 100 and enjoy.

It's not just that it looks sharper, the PS4 version is just blurry as ****

Based on all comparisons the performance is pretty much identical between both. Both versions run better than the other one at times, sometimes the PS4 runs way better while in other times the Xbox One version runs better.

I think overall the PS4 image looks better. If they are using FXAA it would be nice to see it rendered with and without it to compare but I prefer the fewer jaggies, better lighting, improved reflections of the PS4 version. It does look a bit soft though but I can tweak that with my TV settings if it looks like that on my TV.

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#323  Edited By Krelian-co
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@waltefmoney said:

@btk2k2 said:

@waltefmoney said:
@kuu2 said:

Love the DC even after pics come out.

'DF is a paid MSoft shill.'

'SonyGaf has the correct pictures.'

'Bbbbbut it is in 900p.'

And yet The One still looks better in areas and there will be a patch on day one making the game look even better. Sony Fan gets blasted again.

Well deserved after all the misinformation and all the anti-xbox propaganda. "bu but the developer tools are barely functional, games will look like shit on xbox one, ESRAM holding back, difference bigger than PS2 and original Xbox"

So Higher res + higher average frame rate + more effects does not show that the PS4 is significantly faster than the X1? Sure the X1 pictures look sharp but that can be set up by everybody at home on their TV so if they want the PS4 to have that same appearance of high contrast + sharpened image they can. Those settings are not exclusive to the X1. However the higher res, the better effects, fewer jaggies are all exclusive to the PS4 version.

If you like the look of the X1 images then great, set your TVs contrast and sharpness to 100 and enjoy.

Tthe PS4 version is just blurry as ****

Based on all comparisons the performance is pretty much identical between both. Both versions run better than the other one at times, sometimes the PS4 runs way better while in other times the Xbox One version runs better.

Right....except for the fact that ps4 is running at almost twice the resolution with ambient occlussion, less aliasing and better field of view.

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#324 kuu2
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More in depth conversation about it.

https://twitter.com/TheKevinDent/status/395041228619649024

Really weird.

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#325 XBOunity
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@kuu2: can't be right

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#326 waltefmoney
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Xbox definitely doesn't have better textures guys, it's just digital foundry messing with the contrast. Because that's what contrast does lol.

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#327 2mrw
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Ps4 version for me but thats due to the price and the exclusives ... and as a bonus multiplatform games have higher chances of being better on PS4 so its a win win

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#328 danabo
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Update: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

Some features will not be available at launch, such as “superior graphics” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in another plane of existence where Battlefield 4 did not look better on the Xbox One.


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#329 kuu2
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@XBOunity said:

@kuu2: can't be right

I would totally agree but apparently what was released last night was a week or two ago. There has been a lot of talk about dev kits and a recent SDK fix that have made games look down right amazing on X1. Some of the recent video on Ryse would prove that. It is not like having to wait though Dice is having a session tonight with MSoft to go over the game. It will either prove out tonight one way or another.

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@danabo said:

Update: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

Some features will not be available at launch, such as “superior graphics” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in another plane of existence where Battlefield 4 did not look better on the Xbox One.

its actually "Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

but hey keep that denial up.

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#331 Opus_Rea-333
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@Suppaman100 said:

@kellykelly said:

Damn didn't know the Xbone version was this inferior.

to be honest i dont know which one looks better yet!! but so far PS4 wins with 900p.

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#332 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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So basically the Xbone version has higher contrast and crushed blacks?

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#333  Edited By danabo
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@Krelian-co said:

@danabo said:

Update: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

Some features will not be available at launch, such as “superior graphics” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in another plane of existence where Battlefield 4 did not look better on the Xbox One.

its actually "Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

but hey keep that denial up.

What we have here is seven pages of denial.

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version.

(Unless you tilt your head, stand on one leg, close one eye, and hum.)

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#334 Harisemo
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Watching some Jackfrags PS4 videos, it looks better than I expected, very close to PC but the pop in is bad, seriously so annoying! 60FPS, little to non existant jaggies and absolutely no pop in should be a standard for next gen even if they have to cut back in other areas like textures or something.

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#335 superclocked
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@TheGuardian03 said:

Xbone looks better.

and here is one where ps4 is better.

Yeah, far away objects definitely look better on PS4 because of the higher resolution. Close up objects and textures consistently look better on the XB1 version, though. I'm still getting a PS4 first, but the XBox One is going to be a decent buy once MS lowers the price...

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#336  Edited By FamilyGuyFan507
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I honestly, at least for the time being, until my own eyes see gameplay from both, see to see the difference that makes Playstation 'superior'. Everyone can drop 900p, 60fps all the way. I'm looking right at them, and my eyes have been gifted with beyond perfect sight, and I don't see a difference, not enough to say, "Okay, Xbox One sucks". This is a drastic attempt to rip through the Xbox One.

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#337 XBOunity
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@superclocked: should be getting the xbo it offers more. If you want graphics you go with the superclocked oc. Anyway cant believe bf4 looks great on xbo and thats without AO which is present in pc and ps4 versions. Also dat upscaler looks to be a winner lol

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So, a thread filled with pictures where one version looks better than the other, and vice versa.

I'd say they're both looking about the same judging from the pics. I don't see the big ownage here.

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@freedomfreak said:

So, a thread filled with pictures where one version looks better than the other, and vice versa.

I'd say they're both looking about the same judging from the pics. I don't see the big ownage here.

Yeah sometimes the X1 version looks better than the PS4 one. I'm not really seeing a HUGE difference either. But cows gonna cow

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#340  Edited By TheMierArmy
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@waltefmoney:

@waltefmoney said:

Xbox definitely doesn't have better textures guys, it's just digital foundry messing with the contrast. Because that's what contrast does lol.

it does make them look different

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#341  Edited By Krelian-co
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@danabo said:

@Krelian-co said:

@danabo said:

Update: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

Some features will not be available at launch, such as “superior graphics” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in another plane of existence where Battlefield 4 did not look better on the Xbox One.

its actually "Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

but hey keep that denial up.

What we have here is seven pages of denial.

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version.

(Unless you tilt your head, stand on one leg, close one eye, and hum.)

sure it does, the lower resolution version full of jaggies worse draw distance and not even ambient occlussion looks better, obviously the rest of the people are the ones in denial.

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#342 superclocked
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@TheGuardian03 said:

Nice find...

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#343 StormyJoe
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@I_can_haz: Meh... much to do about nothing, IMO. I guess if I had pre-ordered both, I would get the PS4 version. The graphics comparison is not enough to make me want a PS4 right now.

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#344 FamilyGuyFan507
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@freedomfreak said:

So, a thread filled with pictures where one version looks better than the other, and vice versa.

I'd say they're both looking about the same judging from the pics. I don't see the big ownage here.

This is what my thoughts are. Even if the Xbox One is slightly lower in quality, it's not apparent, and hasn't been in several videos.

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So Digital Foundry has admitted to botching the videos? Good to know, maybe the Xigs can come out and apologise for celebrating prematurely.

That 180p advantage the PS4 enjoys is gonna be markedly visible when it's being rendered natively on a 1080p screen instead of through a compressed Youtube video.

720p on day one. Xbone is finished.

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@seanmcloughlin said:

Yeah sometimes the X1 version looks better than the PS4 one. I'm not really seeing a HUGE difference either. But cows gonna cow

Makes all these rumor threads even more stupid. Oh, how many times we had to hear it was going to run at 1080P and would absolutely destroy the Xbox version.

Now look at them.

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#347  Edited By danabo
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@Krelian-co said:

@danabo said:

@Krelian-co said:

@danabo said:

Update: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

Some features will not be available at launch, such as “superior graphics” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in another plane of existence where Battlefield 4 did not look better on the Xbox One.

its actually "Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

but hey keep that denial up.

What we have here is seven pages of denial.

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version.

(Unless you tilt your head, stand on one leg, close one eye, and hum.)

Moo.

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#348  Edited By JamDev
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All these people thinking the Xbone version looks better is great news for PC gamers.

Instead of spending money on upgrading your graphics card, simply lower your resolution, turn off AA and AO and bump the contrast and sharpness up on your monitor until all the dark colors merge into one black mass and every line is nice and jaggy. Instant BETTER GRAPHICS! for no extra cost.

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#350 StormyJoe
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Just watched the IGN comparison video. I really don't see a difference...