Digital Foundry Analysis BF4 (PS4 vs Xbone)

@Krelian-co said:

@danabo said:

@Krelian-co said:

@danabo said:

@Krelian-co said:

@danabo said:

Update: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

Some features will not be available at launch, such as “superior graphics” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in another plane of existence where Battlefield 4 did not look better on the Xbox One.

its actually "Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

but hey keep that denial up.

What we have here is seven pages of denial.

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version.

(Unless you tilt your head, stand on one leg, close one eye, and hum.)

Moo.

gotta love those strong arguments from lems.

Everything will be okay.

Can't believe that some people are actually arguing against quantifiable metrics.

@TheMierArmy said:

it does make them look different

Still better ground textures on the Xbox:

@superclocked said:

@TheGuardian03 said:

Nice find...

This needs to be reposted.

Youtube = compression. Video compression pretty much wipes out 900p vs 720p, and even frame-rate differences are unnoticable. (unless there is tearing, or extreme slowdown). Watching a youtube video is not indicative of playing the game directly on your own TV.

That being said, I have no idea if I would even notice the differences side by side. However considering lems constantly claimed ownage last gen if the PS3 droped <80 pixels (several 644p games) - I'd say a 180 vertical pixel difference is pretty damn big. I believe this is a bigger pixel difference than ANY PS3 vs 360 comparison.

Clearly PS4 pumping out higher rez, framerates, etc it's simply the more capable piece of equipment.

That said, the AA blur makes the technically superior version look worse, this is on the part of the devs, not the machines.

@waltefmoney said:

Xbox definitely doesn't have better textures guys, it's just digital foundry messing with the contrast. Because that's what contrast does lol.

It doesn't. Like DF said the ground textures are randomized much like the clothing is and shows it his screenshots. The other screen shows nothing differnt except xbone is stretched larger from being lower rez.

And lol at xbone getting AO. that just= less framerate.

So it begins.

@waltefmoney said:

@TheMierArmy said:

it does make them look different

Still better ground textures on the Xbox:

it definitely looks sharper, wonder if this is also due to the botch settings they used.

I'm very happy that I preordered my PS4......more powerful and cheaper.

@Krelian-co said:

@waltefmoney said:

@btk2k2 said:

@waltefmoney said:

@kuu2 said:

Love the DC even after pics come out.

'DF is a paid MSoft shill.'

'SonyGaf has the correct pictures.'

'Bbbbbut it is in 900p.'

And yet The One still looks better in areas and there will be a patch on day one making the game look even better. Sony Fan gets blasted again.

Well deserved after all the misinformation and all the anti-xbox propaganda. "bu but the developer tools are barely functional, games will look like shit on xbox one, ESRAM holding back, difference bigger than PS2 and original Xbox"

So Higher res + higher average frame rate + more effects does not show that the PS4 is significantly faster than the X1? Sure the X1 pictures look sharp but that can be set up by everybody at home on their TV so if they want the PS4 to have that same appearance of high contrast + sharpened image they can. Those settings are not exclusive to the X1. However the higher res, the better effects, fewer jaggies are all exclusive to the PS4 version.

If you like the look of the X1 images then great, set your TVs contrast and sharpness to 100 and enjoy.

Tthe PS4 version is just blurry as ****

Based on all comparisons the performance is pretty much identical between both. Both versions run better than the other one at times, sometimes the PS4 runs way better while in other times the Xbox One version runs better.

Right....except for the fact that ps4 is running at almost twice the resolution with ambient occlussion, less aliasing and better field of view.

keep spamming nonsense, cant counter facts you know.

DF just admitted that they messed up the comparison, hence why IGNs looks different

A Digital Foundry employee went on NeoGAF to explain what went wrong with their PS4/Xbox One Battlefield 4 visuals comparison:

Here's what the persons said:

"The issue here is simple; Tom had a limited amount of time to capture this stuff and was not able to do so in a normal environment. If mistakes were made normally, it would be easy to go back and correct, but with the way this worked, it wasn't really possible.

Why so different? DF uses their own hardware for capturing while DICE were handing out Elgato boxes to everyone else. The DF hardware is actually much more capable but it works differently and, without the experience of working with these new consoles, I can see a situation where settings were dialed in wrong.

JackFrags used what DICE provided and probably didn't even attempt to change any settings which, in this case, turned out to be for the best."

http://n4g.com/news/1382809/digital-foundry-admits-to-botching-battlefield-4-ps4-xb1-video-capature#selcomment

So this is all moot now

And you are only looking at static images,

The most important part, the famerate, goes to the PS4 also. Well one rumor down, CoD next.

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version.

Definitely.

Wonder Woman looks pleased. "Tis no surprise the ps4 version looks and runs better. However I do not indulge in such man child games."

PC version confirmed. Looks like both consoles are going to be used for exclusives... exclusively.

http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif

Lookin' lovely on the PS4. That resolution gap really makes the difference.

Xigs wanna tell me how the Xbone version looks better again?

honestly i dont see the difference. ps4 all the way though ahhhh yeeaahhhhhh

The colours on the Xbox One look a bit off to me. Looks over saturated, look at the car speedometer on the PS4 it's red on the Xbox One it's pink ?!?.

Sure the colours look brighter, but is it correct?

*Greatness not available at launch.

OWN

Ms fucked up again with Gamma, i'm not surprised.

I am surprised we see the same "washed out" Playstation version crappy comparisons we saw early last gen, DF needs to get it together.

#How can someone tell somebody else what looks better to them. I have seen to many Sony fans say that the PS4 version is better right after I say the X1 version looks better to me .

Just adjust the settings on the TV colour saturation until it looks like the Xbox One version... and have a higher res :).

This is what happens when you have a more powerful GPU and faster RAM. Why is this suprising people? It's quite basic, the PS4 is factually inarguably more powerful than the Xbone. What's sad is that both consoles are still ridiculously weak.

It comes down the games at the end of the day, and atm the Xbox is on top, but the PS4 will take over in a year and stay there.

The fact that there is any doubt about which is better just shows how much Sony Fan has been owned. Sony again told their feeble minded fans about 1.8tflops, 50% better looking games, and Sony Fan ate it up. Games actually come out (just like last gen and the gen before that (Dreamcast)) and Sony Fan wants to make every excuse in the book on why the games don't delivery on Sony's lies.

History repeats itself but only those that know history can predict the future. Sony Fan blocks out history like some abused wife or child.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/10/29/battlefield-4s-xbox-one-review-build-was-missing-ambient-occlusion-coming-on-day-one-same-as-ps4pc/

Seems like there was a key feature that didn't even make it into the video's were seeing but will be in the final build of the XBO game

@danabo said:

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version.

Higher contrast is the only difference

Are you on something? They look the same...

AO is day one patch for Xbox. Cry cows. The gap is Not huge. I may keep my pre order. Once devs learn the esram better the gap will be smaller

@seanmcloughlin said:

@danabo said:

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version.

Higher contrast is the only difference

Apart from the better graphics on the Xbox One version, maybe.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/10/29/battlefield-4s-xbox-one-review-build-was-missing-ambient-occlusion-coming-on-day-one-same-as-ps4pc/

boom , gap will close more. Eat it Kelly , I mean Dave keeh

So just wait.... like we did for the PS4 to murder the 360, right?

Seriously, the game that clearly crushes the Xbox One without a doubt does not exist yet. Will it? Maybe, maybe not. Better graphics are likely. A 50% difference is not. Neither of these systems are optimized. Both will get much much better.

@kuu2: There's is no doubt in anyone mind. Far higher res, less aliasing, better framerate. These are all facts. How can ANYONE even discuss this when it's a fact that not only is the PS4 rendering far more, it's doing it all at a better framerate?

This means the Xbone is so weak that it couldn't even keep up with the PS4, after drastically lowering the framerate.

This is just the beginning, look what SONY were able to do with their console when it was just on par with it's competition, now it's far superior. I'm telling you 2-3 years from now the whole Graphics King threads will be dead as even hardcore Xboners won't be able to deny their consoles inferiority.

That's interesting because Xbox One version frame rate already dips. Therefore, with Ambient Occlusion added, it might exacerbate it.

Not only that, but even if you try and discount the DF footage, the IGN and GS footage looks nearly the same as well. IGN comments are split 50/50 in terms of opinions.

dat framerate difference

@shawn30: You're making a fool of yourself. You do no that none of the games have been reviewed yet right? For all you know Knack could get a higher score than all the X1 games.

Yeah, the damage control is LOL.

They are like moths to a flame. A very ugly uncalibrated flame.

While the PS4 is a more natural looking image. Which always pushes the moths away. Just like when you go shopping for a TV. They don't use "cinema mode"... They use "dynamic mode" AKA high contrast and colors, to draw people in.

If you ever have proper calibrated displays to use... You would know right away when something looks artificial.

@danabo said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@danabo said:

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version.

Higher contrast is the only difference

Apart from the better graphics on the Xbox One version, maybe.

What better graphics? They look the same.

@LanceSSJ: Hilarious that being a bit less inferior is a victory for you lol. It's still inferior with a worse framerate and 50% less pixels.

@shawn30: Nope, no waiting, We've already seen it with BF :) Yes, the res and framerate alone prove the 50% percent difference. Are you really this dim? The Xbone FAILS to keep parity even with the PS4 rendering more than 50% more pixels

Looks like the Xbox One version will look even better than we previously thought it would look at launch.

And the PS4 version is still inferior to the PC version, yet cows have been claiming victory for the PS4 today, where's all your posts complaining about them?.

@shawn30: It's damage control from IGN lems. The XO version could look like a PS2 game and they'd damage control, much like what you're doing in this thread. Give it up man, enjoy your XO but stop trying to make yourself feel better by lying to yourself. It's going to be a hard generation for you if you can't live with that fact that PS4 will outclass XO visually. Whether it's 50% or not is irrelevant, (hilarious that you find some sort of victory from it not being exactly what you feel is "50% better" lol) it's better and it's noticeable and that's all that matters. Did Cows try to argue PS2 being more powerful than XB? Just let it go...