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[QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"]

Rugby is 10 X better tha American Football, and Football is 1000000000000X better than American Football.

American Football is like a bizarre freak of nature born from Rugby thats played more slowly (every 10 secs its stopped) and is only appealing to a minority. Rugby and Football (north americans call this soccer) are much more appealing and better sports.

Go Pumas Go Argentina !!!!!!!!!!!

Shinedown220

And then you woke up! Rugby and soccer better tnah Football, I laugh at your stupidity, HaHaHa.

Your ignorance is funny. Rugby and Football (soccer) are the 2 most watched events in the world. USA is not the center f the world kid. Just for you info, the Rugby world cup was last years most watched event globally, go suck it up.

Yeah ok, Butt.

the U.S. may as well be the center of the world, noone can stop us!!!!!

soccer is for immigrantsjonnytohotty

LMFAO!!

america has some of the dumbest sports in the world, there is baseball, football, actually it's mostly just those two, but yea you dont need skill for any of them, i thought that people from the crap states are supposed to be tough, why wear all that wussy gear to play a dumb game, where as rugby you dont wear all that sh*t, and dont call your dumb game football, because it is mostly played by your hands, man are people from the crap states stupid lol, and one more thing the people who colonized the states were outcasts from Europe, just think about that nivasan6

Rugby doesn't have 6 foot 8, 330lb players thats why. and the hitting is so much harder.

[QUOTE="qmoney88"]

[QUOTE="rm_fc"][QUOTE="walton13"]As an American who doesn't like madden or "American" football for that matter, I can honestly say that Football is one of the most popular sports in the world. 500 Million people watch the superbowl, and yet theres only 300 million American Citezens... so where'd the rest come from.

To make this clear I am not putting down Football OR Football (Soccer to me), but yes Madden 08 will probably be better this year as they add new things into the mix, but no one can say Football is "dumb" or "unpopular" because The madden series sells about 7 million copies EVERY YEAR.rm_fc

actually yes there is a euro league so you should check ur facts and just because the U.S.A. and europe are the only ones who have football leagues does not mean that there arent other people from other countries who are interested or who would like to get to know the sport a little better, so keep this in ur mind

who the @!?* cares about some lamo national cup!! Only men can play REAL football not some panzy sport with little ferries dancin around some grass acting like theyre playing a real sport! Get that soccer bull*!@# outta here

america has some of the dumbest sports in the world, there is baseball, football, actually it's mostly just those two, but yea you dont need skill for any of them, i thought that people from the crap states are supposed to be tough, why wear all that wussy gear to play a dumb game, where as rugby you dont wear all that sh*t, and dont call your dumb game football, because it is mostly played by your hands, man are people from the crap states stupid lol, and one more thing the people who colonized the states were outcasts from Europe, just think about that nivasan6

Those so called outcasts whopped your a$$, and founded the greatest country in allt the world.

[QUOTE="nivasan6"]america has some of the dumbest sports in the world, there is baseball, football, actually it's mostly just those two, but yea you dont need skill for any of them, i thought that people from the crap states are supposed to be tough, why wear all that wussy gear to play a dumb game, where as rugby you dont wear all that sh*t, and dont call your dumb game football, because it is mostly played by your hands, man are people from the crap states stupid lol, and one more thing the people who colonized the states were outcasts from Europe, just think about that Shinedown220

Rugby doesn't have 6 foot 8, 330lb players thats why. and the hitting is so much harder.

alrite mister bad*!@ lets see you strap on some gear and go 2 minutes with any pro football team! what a freakin joke! all you damn foreigners who think their crap dont stink and that soccer owns all! i would love to see any of your rugby douche bags come play some american football or any of your soccer girlfriends to come play a real mans sport because it takes more skill to play football than any of you will ever see on a soccer field

[QUOTE="nivasan6"]america has some of the dumbest sports in the world, there is baseball, football, actually it's mostly just those two, but yea you dont need skill for any of them, i thought that people from the crap states are supposed to be tough, why wear all that wussy gear to play a dumb game, where as rugby you dont wear all that sh*t, and dont call your dumb game football, because it is mostly played by your hands, man are people from the crap states stupid lol, and one more thing the people who colonized the states were outcasts from Europe, just think about that Shinedown220

Rugby doesn't have 6 foot 8, 330lb players thats why. and the hitting is so much harder.

No matter how big a player is, getting hit like this does hurt. Rugby has really big players aswell and American rugby offensive players aren't that big aswell, the defenders are the big fat ones.

How many people watch the soccer world cup again? Last time I checked it was more than a billion.FireFalkon

And more than a billion people were bored out of their minds.

[QUOTE="Shinedown220"]

[QUOTE="nivasan6"]america has some of the dumbest sports in the world, there is baseball, football, actually it's mostly just those two, but yea you dont need skill for any of them, i thought that people from the crap states are supposed to be tough, why wear all that wussy gear to play a dumb game, where as rugby you dont wear all that sh*t, and dont call your dumb game football, because it is mostly played by your hands, man are people from the crap states stupid lol, and one more thing the people who colonized the states were outcasts from Europe, just think about that qmoney88

Rugby doesn't have 6 foot 8, 330lb players thats why. and the hitting is so much harder.

alrite mister bad*!@ lets see you strap on some gear and go 2 minutes with any pro football team! what a freakin joke! all you damn foreigners who think their crap dont stink and that soccer owns all! i would love to see any of your rugby douche bags come play some american football or any of your soccer girlfriends to come play a real mans sport because it takes more skill to play football than any of you will ever see on a soccer field

Did you just flame your own Pro- American rugby mate.

[QUOTE="FireFalkon"]How many people watch the soccer world cup again? Last time I checked it was more than a billion.Shinedown220

And more than a billion people were bored out of their minds.

Nice comeback, not. Hmm 1 billion people don't know how to switch channel

ok just to even thingz up.... i'm an american and america really isnt the best country.. Japan is the best imo... i love everything about Japan.... but I will say american football is the greatest sport ever... i will be playing it this year for the glory of my high school.... go Riverhawks!!!! lmaourio1

Get out of this country, NOW. Please just leave.

[QUOTE="Shinedown220"]

[QUOTE="EPaul"]I dont hate american football i tried to understand it by watching the superbowl i find it does flow very well.What i hate is america calling it soccer just because you're the most powerful nation in the world doesn't mean u can change the name of the most popular sport in the worldKrigon

Um, considerring we changed its name, does mean we can.

Well i guess U.S.A and Canada are the only countries in the world that call it Soccer. The rest of the world know it as Football. That means you failed.

American Rugby sucks! :P

Um, he said we couldn't change the name and we did.

[QUOTE="urio1"]ok just to even thingz up.... i'm an american and america really isnt the best country.. Japan is the best imo... i love everything about Japan.... but I will say american football is the greatest sport ever... i will be playing it this year for the glory of my high school.... go Riverhawks!!!! lmaoShinedown220

Get out of this country, NOW. Please just leave.

i would... ooo well who the hell are u to tell me what to do??? i was born here so stfu!!! and i'm living the american dream sooo get over urself... datz right dont be starting with me cuz America really isn't all that great..... and if u dont like Japan why do u have a PS3??? huh dumbasS???? jeez... just go die in a ditch or something

[QUOTE="Shinedown220"]

[QUOTE="urio1"]ok just to even thingz up.... i'm an american and america really isnt the best country.. Japan is the best imo... i love everything about Japan.... but I will say american football is the greatest sport ever... i will be playing it this year for the glory of my high school.... go Riverhawks!!!! lmaourio1

Get out of this country, NOW. Please just leave.

i would... ooo well who the hell are u to tell me what to do??? i was born here so stfu!!! and i'm living the american dream sooo get over urself... datz right dont be starting with me cuz America really isn't all that great..... and if u dont like Japan why do u have a PS3??? huh dumbasS???? jeez... just go die in a ditch or something

[QUOTE="Shinedown220"]

[QUOTE="urio1"]ok just to even thingz up.... i'm an american and america really isnt the best country.. Japan is the best imo... i love everything about Japan.... but I will say american football is the greatest sport ever... i will be playing it this year for the glory of my high school.... go Riverhawks!!!! lmaourio1

Get out of this country, NOW. Please just leave.

i would... ooo well who the hell are u to tell me what to do??? i was born here so stfu!!! and i'm living the american dream sooo get over urself... datz right dont be starting with me cuz America really isn't all that great..... and if u dont like Japan why do u have a PS3??? huh dumbasS???? jeez... just go die in a ditch or something

Why do you like Japan. We whopped their sneak attacking a$$es.

[QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"]

Rugby is 10 X better tha American Football, and Football is 1000000000000X better than American Football.

American Football is like a bizarre freak of nature born from Rugby thats played more slowly (every 10 secs its stopped) and is only appealing to a minority. Rugby and Football (north americans call this soccer) are much more appealing and better sports.

Go Pumas Go Argentina !!!!!!!!!!!

qmoney88

And then you woke up! Rugby and soccer better tnah Football, I laugh at your stupidity, HaHaHa.

Your ignorance is funny. Rugby and Football (soccer) are the 2 most watched events in the world. USA is not the center f the world kid. Just for you info, the Rugby world cup was last years most watched event globally, go suck it up.

Yeah ok, Butt.

the U.S. may as well be the center of the world, noone can stop us!!!!!

Iraq seems to be doing just fine.

To all the whimpy soccer fans out there, this is whyAmericans like Football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNFFNzEIwcc

[QUOTE="urio1"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"]

[QUOTE="urio1"]ok just to even thingz up.... i'm an american and america really isnt the best country.. Japan is the best imo... i love everything about Japan.... but I will say american football is the greatest sport ever... i will be playing it this year for the glory of my high school.... go Riverhawks!!!! lmaoShinedown220

Get out of this country, NOW. Please just leave.

i would... ooo well who the hell are u to tell me what to do??? i was born here so stfu!!! and i'm living the american dream sooo get over urself... datz right dont be starting with me cuz America really isn't all that great..... and if u dont like Japan why do u have a PS3??? huh dumbasS???? jeez... just go die in a ditch or something

Why do you like Japan. We whopped their sneak attacking a$$es.

lolz honestly idk why... but i was jp b4.... i do love america... but i do hate all the conflicts in this world... but ppl have to realize the world will NEVER be perfect.... Hiroshima and Nagasaki!!! i read about that in history ****and damn dat sounded really really terrible... but idk japan just seems mad awesome to me... Each country is good in their own way... some have mad oil and stuff but uhhh wow how did all this start over madden??? lolzz..... lets not argue with each other and saveour harsh comments for the dumbasses who actually deserve it..

To all the whimpy soccer fans out there, this is whyAmericans like Football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNFFNzEIwcc

Shinedown220

i also hate soccer... football is the best sport ever handz down... IMO

[QUOTE="qmoney88"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"]

Rugby is 10 X better tha American Football, and Football is 1000000000000X better than American Football.

American Football is like a bizarre freak of nature born from Rugby thats played more slowly (every 10 secs its stopped) and is only appealing to a minority. Rugby and Football (north americans call this soccer) are much more appealing and better sports.

Go Pumas Go Argentina !!!!!!!!!!!

navstar29

And then you woke up! Rugby and soccer better tnah Football, I laugh at your stupidity, HaHaHa.

Your ignorance is funny. Rugby and Football (soccer) are the 2 most watched events in the world. USA is not the center f the world kid. Just for you info, the Rugby world cup was last years most watched event globally, go suck it up.

Yeah ok, Butt.

the U.S. may as well be the center of the world, noone can stop us!!!!!

Iraq seems to be doing just fine.

First of allwere not facing Iraq, there on our side, were facing the insergents.

Second of all the allies have killed far more of them, then they have us.

[QUOTE="navstar29"][QUOTE="qmoney88"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"]

Rugby is 10 X better tha American Football, and Football is 1000000000000X better than American Football.

American Football is like a bizarre freak of nature born from Rugby thats played more slowly (every 10 secs its stopped) and is only appealing to a minority. Rugby and Football (north americans call this soccer) are much more appealing and better sports.

Go Pumas Go Argentina !!!!!!!!!!!

Shinedown220

And then you woke up! Rugby and soccer better tnah Football, I laugh at your stupidity, HaHaHa.

Your ignorance is funny. Rugby and Football (soccer) are the 2 most watched events in the world. USA is not the center f the world kid. Just for you info, the Rugby world cup was last years most watched event globally, go suck it up.

Yeah ok, Butt.

the U.S. may as well be the center of the world, noone can stop us!!!!!

Iraq seems to be doing just fine.

First of allwere not facing Iraq, there on our side, were facing the insergents.

Second of all the allies have killed far more of them, then they have us.

A large portion of Iraq, not insergents are not on your side, or don't appreciate your intrusion. Its funny too cause i could have sworn like 4 years ago that bush considered the "mission accomplished" so to speak, lol, he's such a dumb ass. The most killed doesn't dictate how succesful a war is either.

how did a madden post become world politics lol this is amazing

^^^ i dont really support Bush....

dang it finally died

Why everybody call americans to people who lives in the US? cuz everybody that lives in this part of the world is an american you know... cuba, chile, mexico, jamaica, puerto rico... but if you wanna draw a line then people from the US are north americans not plain americans cuz we all are from America...

Gue1

Yea! Make sure you get it RIGHT, and call us "United States of Americans"!

I saw that rugby video and im sure this hurts a lot worse

vid

Wow- there's so much ignorance in this thread by all sides that I wouldn't even begin. So I'll just say two small things, then get on with the real topic at hand.

1. The reason the US calls our football...football is because the sport was originally different. Before, you had to ge tthe end-zone, where you'd receive an opportunity to kick the ball for a point (getting into the end-zone didn't actually score at all). So our 'foot' was the source of scoring and the name has been with us every since. We didn't call it soccer just to be spiteful, like some of you seem to want to believe.

2. This idea that the "real" word for soccer/football is football is laughable at best, especially coming from some of you. If you look at the countries that have English as their native and primary language, the majority of the population (if you added all of those people up) will say soccer, not football. I don't care if in French, Chinese, Japanese, or whatever they use the word 'football' (or some literal translation), the majority of native English speakers say soccer. Now, I'm not saying the British are wrong- though it can result in rather strange conversations, but to act like us Americans are wrong is just flat out stupid.

Regarding Madden 08- it's going to be a trash game like it is every year. The best times to be a football/American football games fan was 2004 and 2005, when the competition was in full swing. As soon as EA bought out the rights to the NFL, the quality of the games (even if I didn't like them to begin with) took a severe nosedive. It's pretty clear that EA has been cutting back on features, which I think they're going to start selling us those missing pieces over PSN.

[QUOTE="EL_MEXICAN"]I dont like football, but why is madden so especial?rac_fan12

Your probably not american in america Football is like mexicos fiestas or something like that

LMAO :lol:

[QUOTE="EL_MEXICAN"]I dont like football, but why is madden so especial?rac_fan12

Your probably not american in america Football is like mexicos fiestas or something like that

Wow- there's so much ignorance in this thread by all sides that I wouldn't even begin. So I'll just say two small things, then get on with the real topic at hand.

1. The reason the US calls our football...football is because the sport was originally different. Before, you had to ge tthe end-zone, where you'd receive an opportunity to kick the ball for a point (getting into the end-zone didn't actually score at all). So our 'foot' was the source of scoring and the name has been with us every since. We didn't call it soccer just to be spiteful, like some of you seem to want to believe.

2. This idea that the "real" word for soccer/football is football is laughable at best, especially coming from some of you. If you look at the countries that have English as their native and primary language, the majority of the population (if you added all of those people up) will say soccer, not football. I don't care if in French, Chinese, Japanese, or whatever they use the word 'football' (or some literal translation), the majority of native English speakers say soccer. Now, I'm not saying the British are wrong- though it can result in rather strange conversations, but to act like us Americans are wrong is just flat out stupid.

Regarding Madden 08- it's going to be a trash game like it is every year. The best times to be a football/American football games fan was 2004 and 2005, when the competition was in full swing. As soon as EA bought out the rights to the NFL, the quality of the games (even if I didn't like them to begin with) took a severe nosedive. It's pretty clear that EA has been cutting back on features, which I think they're going to start selling us those missing pieces over PSN.

Vampyronight

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"]America has changed a lot. It used to be about team work. Now it's about individuals (stars). Futball is about teamwork. Football is about individuals (Payton Manning). Sure, the USA sports requires teammates. But the emphasis is on stardom. Not teamwork. A good futball game in Europe can be 90 mininutes and score 1-0. In the USA, we like our NFL 42-34 scores. In the NBA, we like our 148-136 scores. In the MLB, we like our 12-8 scores. American's just don't have the patients for 90 minutes futball games in which it requires TEAMwork and scores only 1 point. We want it NOW! LIke McDonnals fast-food. Tasty, but not so good for you.Shinedown220

In other words we like our sports entertaining. Who the hell wants to watch a game for 90 min. and have it end 0-0. Not Americans.

i agree gizmo are u sayin football (american) and Basketball dont take teamwork????? if so then uve obviously never played a sport in your life and 1 touchdown is worth 6 points....1 goal in soccer is 1 point so not that fair

[QUOTE="Shinedown220"]

[QUOTE="urio1"]ok just to even thingz up.... i'm an american and america really isnt the best country.. Japan is the best imo... i love everything about Japan.... but I will say american football is the greatest sport ever... i will be playing it this year for the glory of my high school.... go Riverhawks!!!! lmaourio1

Get out of this country, NOW. Please just leave.

i would... ooo well who the hell are u to tell me what to do??? i was born here so stfu!!! and i'm living the american dream sooo get over urself... datz right dont be starting with me cuz America really isn't all that great..... and if u dont like Japan why do u have a PS3??? huh dumbasS???? jeez... just go die in a ditch or something

wow urio1 u are just....well due to moderation i cant tell you what you are....but man livin in america and enjoyin the freedoms of it and your bashing it..."isnt all that great"...im ashamed that ur from america. and what does it matter that he has a ps3??? i got **** that says made in china but dont mean i think they are superior just means they make my stuff. stupid 12 year old kids should go live in a third world country for a while and see if america "isnt all that great" or go tell a veteran that.....

[QUOTE="nivasan6"]america has some of the dumbest sports in the world, there is baseball, football, actually it's mostly just those two, but yea you dont need skill for any of them, i thought that people from the crap states are supposed to be tough, why wear all that wussy gear to play a dumb game, where as rugby you dont wear all that sh*t, and dont call your dumb game football, because it is mostly played by your hands, man are people from the crap states stupid lol, and one more thing the people who colonized the states were outcasts from Europe, just think about that Shinedown220

Those so called outcasts whopped your a$$, and founded the greatest country in allt the world.

LMFAO PWNED they were "outcasts"? pshhh i dont really even need to start on that comment you just made yourself look like a retard

madden 08's gunna own this year no matter what 4 the ps3 even if its 30fbs

417alum

america has some of the dumbest sports in the world, there is baseball, football, actually it's mostly just those two, but yea you dont need skill for any of them, i thought that people from the crap states are supposed to be tough, why wear all that wussy gear to play a dumb game, where as rugby you dont wear all that sh*t, and dont call your dumb game football, because it is mostly played by your hands, man are people from the crap states stupid lol, and one more thing the people who colonized the states were outcasts from Europe, just think about that nivasan6

Wow, I think you need a hug. I think alot of the posters on this thread are showing howshallow and ignorant they are. You know what a paradigm is? If not, look it up. Of course people from different parts of the world with different up-bringings are going to have vastley different opinions on many things, and certainly sports. I would be shocked to go to Ireland or England and find anybody (other than an American)there that thinks soccer (futbol for you haters) is dumb and loves the NFL. This thread was about whether or not Madden 08 was gonna be good, and it's turned into an "Americans are arrogant and dumb," and "USA rules, dude" pi**ing match. Can't we just agree to disagree? Soccer (futbol) IMO is boring. I'd rather watch paint dry. But I don't think people in other parts of the world that love 'futbol' are lame or beneath me, because it's what they grew up on, and that's cool.

my word, theres some people on here that have seriously forgot why they joined in the first place ... our love of games! every country is different, each has its own 'thing' but 'we' surely are all the same, gamers! i'm british and i love football (real football hehe;)) but i dont mind americans calling it soccer, when the players are on the pitch they are both playing exactly the same game by the same rules.

i dont mind healthy disagreement over videogames but seriously i cant be ars*d with this tribal continental sh*t.

[QUOTE="nivasan6"]america has some of the dumbest sports in the world, there is baseball, football, actually it's mostly just those two, but yea you dont need skill for any of them, i thought that people from the crap states are supposed to be tough, why wear all that wussy gear to play a dumb game, where as rugby you dont wear all that sh*t, and dont call your dumb game football, because it is mostly played by your hands, man are people from the crap states stupid lol, and one more thing the people who colonized the states were outcasts from Europe, just think about that bigpymp

Wow, I think you need a hug. I think alot of the posters on this thread are showing howshallow and ignorant they are. You know what a paradigm is? If not, look it up. Of course people from different parts of the world with different up-bringings are going to have vastley different opinions on many things, and certainly sports. I would be shocked to go to Ireland or England and find anybody (other than an American)there that thinks soccer (futbol for you haters) is dumb and loves the NFL. This thread was about whether or not Madden 08 was gonna be good, and it's turned into an "Americans are arrogant and dumb," and "USA rules, dude" pi**ing match. Can't we just agree to disagree? Soccer (futbol) IMO is boring. I'd rather watch paint dry. But I don't think people in other parts of the world that love 'futbol' are lame or beneath me, because it's what they grew up on, and that's cool.

Well said. People are entitled to their preferences. To each his/her own.

I saw that rugby video and im sure this hurts a lot worse

vid

snwboardn08

The thing is both videos showed some awesome tackles, i believe the one without any type of protection would hurt more.

Rugby > American Rugby :P

[QUOTE="snwboardn08"]

I saw that rugby video and im sure this hurts a lot worse

vid

Krigon

The thing is both videos showed some awesome tackles, i believe the one without any type of protection would hurt more.

Rugby > American Rugby :P

did we watch the same video? Im just kidden. im just tiered of all the arguments.

[QUOTE="qmoney88"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"][QUOTE="Shinedown220"][QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"]

Rugby is 10 X better tha American Football, and Football is 1000000000000X better than American Football.

American Football is like a bizarre freak of nature born from Rugby thats played more slowly (every 10 secs its stopped) and is only appealing to a minority. Rugby and Football (north americans call this soccer) are much more appealing and better sports.

Go Pumas Go Argentina !!!!!!!!!!!

navstar29

And then you woke up! Rugby and soccer better tnah Football, I laugh at your stupidity, HaHaHa.

Your ignorance is funny. Rugby and Football (soccer) are the 2 most watched events in the world. USA is not the center f the world kid. Just for you info, the Rugby world cup was last years most watched event globally, go suck it up.

Yeah ok, Butt.

the U.S. may as well be the center of the world, noone can stop us!!!!!

Iraq seems to be doing just fine.

actually no... but you can continue to think that, cuz if you honestly believe that iraq has an upperhand in this fight then you are sadly mistaken my friend, or maybe you work with al qaeda, hmm... Dirka Dirka?!!

Too many pages to read, but I just wanted to point out (even if it has been already) that Soccer is not an American made term. You limey's are the ones who created the term. It's slang for your football. Since we have the superior version of Football we just adapted the term Soccer :P

Futbol Americain to invade England this year with my Dolphins playing the New York Midgets!