Kids that can't read?

[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]

Well, you do live in Canada

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Denji

Hey now American person. I'm pretty sure there's a triple Big Mac some where out there for you to consume :p ZANG

But on a serious note. I think the education system is failing across the board regardless of what country you're in. It's modern western society in general. Hell at this point, I don't think it's a "Canadian problem" or an "American problem" anymore. It's an over all societal problem below the 1% (aka the rest of us).

I can vouche for that. I work at a GameStop in America and there are parents that return games all the time because "it has too much reading in it" :?

[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]

Well, you do live in Canada

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BenderUnit22

Hey now American person. I'm pretty sure there's a triple Big Mac some where out there for you to consume :p ZANG

But on a serious note. I think the education system is failing across the board regardless of what country you're in. It's modern western society in general. Hell at this point, I don't think it's a "Canadian problem" or an "American problem" anymore. It's an over all societal problem below the 1% (aka the rest of us).

:lol: Very true. Even here in Canada, regular Big Macs are a little pricey. Yet, go to the US and they're practically a dollar:?

I may like Big Macs, but there's only so much "Big Mac" I can stand:| Even the doubles go "too far"..

Triple Big Mac?... Sounds as bad as the new KFC Double Down that apparently is only in the U.S. No bun... just two pieces of chicken with the toppings in between haha.

[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]

Well, you do live in Canada

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Ospov

Hey now American person. I'm pretty sure there's a triple Big Mac some where out there for you to consume :p ZANG

But on a serious note. I think the education system is failing across the board regardless of what country you're in. It's modern western society in general. Hell at this point, I don't think it's a "Canadian problem" or an "American problem" anymore. It's an over all societal problem below the 1% (aka the rest of us).

I can vouche for that. I work at a GameStop in America and there are parents that return games all the time because "it has too much reading in it" :?

That's horrible. I would be like "suck it up and read!" with my kid. It's just sad people actually think that way...

Ughhhh these parents should be encouraging their children to read. I mean damn, reading a fantastic book is such a wonderful experience that everyone should enjoy!!!

Triple Big Mac?... Sounds as bad as the new KFC Double Down that apparently is only in the U.S. No bun... just two pieces of chicken with the toppings in between haha.

NamelessJay

Oh god, I had a huge pissed off rant on Facebook about that.:lol:

...and no, it's in Canada too:|:cry:

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"][QUOTE="BenderUnit22"] oUCH! hey if i would have had my choice I woulda been born elsewhere.. [QUOTE="Ospov"]

[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]

Well, you do live in Canada

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Denji

Hey now American person. I'm pretty sure there's a triple Big Mac some where out there for you to consume :p ZANG

But on a serious note. I think the education system is failing across the board regardless of what country you're in. It's modern western society in general. Hell at this point, I don't think it's a "Canadian problem" or an "American problem" anymore. It's an over all societal problem below the 1% (aka the rest of us).

I can vouche for that. I work at a GameStop in America and there are parents that return games all the time because "it has too much reading in it" :?

lmao.. parents these days.

All I did when I was 7 was reading. I wasn't allowed to play video games until the summer... looking back on it, I'm pretty grateful.

Scianix-Black

I did this while i was 7. When i went to 5th grade, i was on the reading level of a High School Senoir.

Nowdays, I rarely read because i'm busy. I might go to the Local Library this summer to catch up.

A Series of Unfortunate Events was a good book series.

[QUOTE="NamelessJay"]

Triple Big Mac?... Sounds as bad as the new KFC Double Down that apparently is only in the U.S. No bun... just two pieces of chicken with the toppings in between haha.

Denji

Oh god, I had a huge pissed off rant on Facebook about that.:lol:

...and no, it's in Canada too:|:cry:

That's horrible. I would be like "suck it up and read!" with my kid. It's just sad people actually think that way...

Denji

You're telling me. 95% of the time it's DS games and I kinda just want to ask them "So were you expecting full voice acting or something on this DS game?" I mean really, come on. If you have a DS you should know that almost every single game has text in it. Well, I guess except for Mario games and some games like that. The more kids are exposed to text the more they'll want to know what it says so they'll be more inclined to learn how to read.

[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="NamelessJay"]

Triple Big Mac?... Sounds as bad as the new KFC Double Down that apparently is only in the U.S. No bun... just two pieces of chicken with the toppings in between haha.

PoisoN_Facecam0

Oh god, I had a huge pissed off rant on Facebook about that.:lol:

...and no, it's in Canada too:|:cry:

SHHH! Don't jinx it now! I think we've already crossed the "this can't be real!" line with that "Double Down"...

[QUOTE="Denji"]

That's horrible. I would be like "suck it up and read!" with my kid. It's just sad people actually think that way...

Ospov

You're telling me. 95% of the time it's DS games and I kinda just want to ask them "So were you expecting full voice acting or something on this DS game?" I mean really, come on. If you have a DS you should know that almost every single game has text in it. Well, I guess except for Mario games and some games like that. The more kids are exposed to text the more they'll want to know what it says so they'll be more inclined to learn how to read.

Well, get a kid who's an RPG fan would at least be easier and hook'em into the classics. All text baby! Just like the old days:lol:

[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="NamelessJay"]

Triple Big Mac?... Sounds as bad as the new KFC Double Down that apparently is only in the U.S. No bun... just two pieces of chicken with the toppings in between haha.

PoisoN_Facecam0

Oh god, I had a huge pissed off rant on Facebook about that.:lol:

...and no, it's in Canada too:|:cry:

That and chicken nugget McFlurry's :P

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"][QUOTE="Denji"]

Oh god, I had a huge pissed off rant on Facebook about that.:lol:

...and no, it's in Canada too:|:cry:

Denji

SHHH! Don't jinx it now! I think we've already crossed the "this can't be real!" line with that "Double Down"...

Double Down is a free heartattack. :(

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"][QUOTE="Denji"]

Oh god, I had a huge pissed off rant on Facebook about that.:lol:

...and no, it's in Canada too:|:cry:

NamelessJay

That and chicken nugget McFlurry's :P

Actually I used to work at a Dairy Queen and put a burger patty into a milkshake once and gave it to one of my friends :lol:

[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]

Double Down is a free heartattack. :(

1bigsmoke55

[QUOTE="Denji"]

That's horrible. I would be like "suck it up and read!" with my kid. It's just sad people actually think that way...

Ospov

You're telling me. 95% of the time it's DS games and I kinda just want to ask them "So were you expecting full voice acting or something on this DS game?" I mean really, come on. If you have a DS you should know that almost every single game has text in it. Well, I guess except for Mario games and some games like that. The more kids are exposed to text the more they'll want to know what it says so they'll be more inclined to learn how to read.

I had a guy a couple weeks ago try to return Kirby Superstar Saga because it had too much reading... honestly, how stupid is your child if they can't figure out how to play kirby then maybe you might want to consider putting the money you spend on video games to get them tested for some sort of brain condition.. the kid was 6 for god sake!!!PoisoN_Facecam0

Once some mom turned down a pokemon game because I mentioned that it had a little reading in it. I feel bad for her kid missing out on pokemon :?

[QUOTE="1bigsmoke55"]

[QUOTE="Denji"] So in other words ... :evil: its the perfect food to feed your enemies!! :twisted: [QUOTE="Ospov"]

[QUOTE="Denji"]

That's horrible. I would be like "suck it up and read!" with my kid. It's just sad people actually think that way...

PoisoN_Facecam0

You're telling me. 95% of the time it's DS games and I kinda just want to ask them "So were you expecting full voice acting or something on this DS game?" I mean really, come on. If you have a DS you should know that almost every single game has text in it. Well, I guess except for Mario games and some games like that. The more kids are exposed to text the more they'll want to know what it says so they'll be more inclined to learn how to read.

i didn't mind reading in games. Yakuza 3 is fine with text. Some games i wish that had text instead of Voice acting.

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"][QUOTE="1bigsmoke55"]

You're telling me. 95% of the time it's DS games and I kinda just want to ask them "So were you expecting full voice acting or something on this DS game?" I mean really, come on. If you have a DS you should know that almost every single game has text in it. Well, I guess except for Mario games and some games like that. The more kids are exposed to text the more they'll want to know what it says so they'll be more inclined to learn how to read.

1bigsmoke55

i didn't mind reading in games. Yakuza 3 is fine with text. Some games i wish that had text instead of Voice acting.

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]I had a guy a couple weeks ago try to return Kirby Superstar Saga because it had too much reading... honestly, how stupid is your child if they can't figure out how to play kirby then maybe you might want to consider putting the money you spend on video games to get them tested for some sort of brain condition.. the kid was 6 for god sake!!!Ospov

Once some mom turned down a pokemon game because I mentioned that it had a little reading in it. I feel bad for her kid missing out on pokemon :?

[QUOTE="1bigsmoke55"]

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"] I had a guy a couple weeks ago try to return Kirby Superstar Saga because it had too much reading... honestly, how stupid is your child if they can't figure out how to play kirby then maybe you might want to consider putting the money you spend on video games to get them tested for some sort of brain condition.. the kid was 6 for god sake!!!PoisoN_Facecam0

i didn't mind reading in games. Yakuza 3 is fine with text. Some games i wish that had text instead of Voice acting.

Rofl.

That does suck. As others have said, anything that encourages the child to read can only be good, surely?

It's even worse when the child themselves wants whatever it is but the parent denies them. I see that quite a bit at the library, 7-8 year olds picking out books to borrow and their parents are like 'Oh no, that's too hard for *you*, look at these picture books' or whatever, and I'm just think FUUU! Let the kid read what they want to try and read.

That does suck. As others have said, anything that encourages the child to read can only be good, surely?

It's even worse when the child themselves wants whatever it is but the parent denies them. I see that quite a bit at the library, 7-8 year olds picking out books to borrow and their parents are like 'Oh no, that's too hard for *you*, look at these picture books' or whatever, and I'm just think FUUU! Let the kid read what they want to try and read.

MissLibrarian

Parents should be encouraging kids to read from an early age. Really early. I learned to read when I was 2. They can introduce them to videogames after they teach them to read and at least spark a slight interest in their kids to want to read books for fun. If parents want their kids to be smart they should raise them to be smart, and that starts very early.bluem00se

Hell, I was counting pretty high and speaking French words before I hit JK (around 3 or 4). I guess that was when Sesame Street was actually good and "working" before "today" touched it.:?

Look at Wii games.

The guys at my school (15-16 yrs old) hate RPG and skip the cut-scenes on all the games, since they have to read.

A teacher tells us to read a book (over 200 pages) and many people begin talking its the biggest book ever.

I was with "Musashi" byYoshikawa Eijion my bag, they told me it was impossible to me to read that :roll:

Well, you do live in Canada

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BenderUnit22

Hey, wait a minute! That's not... erm... wait... what were we talking abou-....

HOCKEY!

My wife is a middle school teacher. Over half her kids can't read, and she's not allowed to fail or discipline them. Thank Bush for the no child left behind BS. Now they can all fail together. ;)TheEldestGod

My wife is a middle school teacher. Over half her kids can't read, and she's not allowed to fail or discipline them. Thank Bush for the no child left behind BS. Now they can all fail together. ;)TheEldestGod

"Nobody loses Bobby! You're the last winner!"
George Carlin said it best...

"Nobody loses Bobby! You're the last winner!"
George Carlin said it best...

Denji

My wife is a middle school teacher. Over half her kids can't read, and she's not allowed to fail or discipline them. Thank Bush for the no child left behind BS. Now they can all fail together. ;)TheEldestGod

[QUOTE="Denji"]

"Nobody loses Bobby! You're the last winner!"
George Carlin said it best...

PoisoN_Facecam0

My wife is a middle school teacher. Over half her kids can't read, and she's not allowed to fail or discipline them. Thank Bush for the no child left behind BS. Now they can all fail together. ;)TheEldestGod

:lol:

You'd think schools would adopt something like that in capitalistic society (i think that last bit is still applicable despite the cluster**** of contradictions in our economic and political system...)

If schools would implement something like that then we would be able to use the illiterate kids for mass experimental drug testing :twisted:

What I don't get about those parents is not that their sons/daughters can't read, but when do they think they should start?

Some children get no encouragment. I could read when I was four, and that was because I wanted to, I didn't learn at any school, I learned at home because of my constant inquiries and with the help from my family.

You are on the right track kid...;)with kids like you coming into the world, I no longer fear the future!!! lol

MarcRecon

Hmmmm that does seen like a problem. My sister is 7 and all she does is read practically, when she is done reading then she plays her DS. Idk i dont really remember if i read alot in my childhood. I dont read like a should now, but when i do i enjoy it.

My wife is a middle school teacher. Over half her kids can't read, and she's not allowed to fail or discipline them. Thank Bush for the no child left behind BS. Now they can all fail together. ;)TheEldestGod

Triple Big Mac?... Sounds as bad as the new KFC Double Down that apparently is only in the U.S. No bun... just two pieces of chicken with the toppings in between haha.

NamelessJay

This subject makes me sick, because over the years there has been a slow decline in the education system. Im 22 at the moment, When i was a kid, my mum read books with me, i enjoyed reading, i watched tv, i played video games like sega master system, etc. Even then, i was STILL ahead of my class in reading and understanding words and sentences. I wasnt really that good at actual writing and math though.

But still, the most simplest of tasks, reading, kids now are finding it harder and harder. Just because of the decline of our education system. I hate it. I think its up to the parents sometimes, with things like this, to teach them early, themselves.

I find it hard to believe that with a PC in almost every home nowadays, that kids cannot read as soon as they pop out of their mothers stomache. The problem is that people get lazier and lazier with each generation. They CAN read, they just dont want to and parents dont force it on them. With all the child laws out there they are probably afraid their kid will have them arrested on some "forced to read a game" charge.

Actually, I was behind my entire class in reading and writing English since my parents only knew how to speak Korean at the time, thus teaching me the only language they knew from the day I was born. It took me until grade school to be exposed to English, but I was still behind the entire class. I never took the regular English cirriculum and always went upstairs to be taught the language out of these really boring exercise books while the rest of the class colored and drew leaves on pictures of trees and whatnot. And then I played Pokemon. Being a game being delivered almost completely through text, I picked up on the language after hundreds of hours spent on Catching 'Em All. Now I'm winning essay competitions, earning gold medals in speaking festivals, awarded with exam-based scholarships, and always recieving top marks in my English class, and I owe it all to Pokemon. Moral of the story: play games to learn how to read and write. 8)hazelnutman

I swear Pokemon taught me how to read and write too, I also owe it to Pokemon, like I talked with every person and and read all of what they said even if they didn't want to battle. Thank you Pokemon. :D

I'm dyslexic (Which wasn't picked up upon till I was 16 because my reading was always quite good andthroughout primary education I was in the top reading group) and I can honestly say video games with text in them are one of the main reasons I made it to University. They gave me a push and intrest to read so I could comprehend what was going on in the game (Along with a select few books I enjoyed).

Edit: On topic..... A good PS3 game with no reading, Ratchet and Clank. But to deny any child Pokemon is a sin!

Call me harsh. but at least I'm honest...

These are the same parents that will be blaming the gaming industry for their childrens' violent suicidal rampages, instead of placing the blame on themselves for raising children who are made picked on in high school for being illiterate...

It makes me sick when parents use video games as babysitters and then pass the buck when it comes to real responsibility. There's nothing wrong with gaming...there IS a problem with parents who are lazy with their children.

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Call me harsh. but at least I'm honest...

These are the same parents that will be blaming the gaming industry for their childrens' violent suicidal rampages, instead of placing the blame on themselves for raising children who are made picked on in high school for being illiterate...

It makes me sick when parents use video games as babysitters and then pass the buck when it comes to real responsibility. There's nothing wrong with gaming...there IS a problem with parents who are lazy with their children.

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MistressZero

Nothing harsh about that. I think/say the same thing. It's the truth. The only people who think it's harsh are those who are apart of it and (for some odd reason) sympathize with it with all their "politcial correctness":roll: