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Also how would you know how many kids are doing heroin or not? you dont know that crowd apparently. thirteen_zombie
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/dcf/du.htm
Here's where I get most of my information.
so you get your information of some statistics on the interent that came from you dont know, not from personal experience? Did you know 89% of statistics are made up, and its that easy, see i just did it. It's a Government site with sources. Personal experiences are only good for a small amount of people.I really don't understand it. I've only been to one concert and that was about three years ago, but it was hell on earth. I see no intelligent reason why anyone would want to go, even if they are a fan of the music.
1. The bands never sound as good live, especially rock bands.
2. There's normally rude, horrible smelling people filling the seats, and they're always very loud.
3. It's hard to enjoy the music when there's people screaming right next to you.
4. You get a generally better sound quality from listening to the music at home.
5. Concerts cost more than two CDs would, and you get more songs from two CDs, at a better sound quality.
There's my five main reasons. It just doesn't make sense for someone to waste their time and money on going to a concert. Why do people do it?
LittleHands134
I've always had this outlook also. Then again, my tinnitus means I can't go anyway.
[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"] Are you talking about a little gateway drug like pot? I really doubt any of your friends were heavily into heroin or meth, you can't just shrug that off. There's a reason that the success rate in rehabs are only about 50%.LittleHands134You are correct about heroin, but musicians don't really do meth. Conversely, high school kids don't do heroin. Musicians and actors do. I don't know about that, a lot of high school aged kids are doing heroin or cocaine. Cocaine I can believe. Not many people shoot heroin around here. At least, in Springfield, VA.
1. The only music I've ever heard that sounded good live were slower folk songs in a small club. As for the rock music, most of it seemed too loud, they forgot some of the words which bothered me, and the instrument/voices sounded a little off at times. 2. Maybe not the first thing, but aren't most concert regulars pretty loud? My perfect concert would be every sitting quietly and enjoying the music. I guess it's too much for people to not act like apes when they're in a large group though. 3. It's loud and offensive. I can hear every word of a song when I listen to it in my ipod or on the computer, but at a concert, I wouldn't be able to make it all out because there would be some loud man next to me singing along with the song. 4. I like polished, it doesn't hurt my ears. 5. Most of the time you can't see them though. Unless you have the best seats in the house, they aren't really that visible, and you still never get to meet them in person. If I really enjoyed a band, I would look for a biography book about the lead singer's life.LittleHands134
1. Apparently you don't like rock music then.
2. Enjoying music does not mean you are acting like an ape. Honestly, I can't sit still and just listen to music. It's boring that way.
3. I can make out the words to the music whether someone is singing near me or not. I'm guessing you wouldn't enjoy a live sporting event either but prefer to watch on TV.
4. Live music doesn't hurt ears. It's the way music was meant to be heard. Pop stars are over polished to cover up the lack of talent. If you'd rather buy programmed music with neglible talent and support that rather than a talented band I don't know what to tell you..
5. Wow. There is still a difference in the experience of a live concert. Even with bad seats you know when a band is good. And reading a biography is more about worship than being entertained live by the individual.
I think I'm still ear-gasming from the Joe Satriani concert 3 months ago. But nobody I'm interested in is coming to town for a while :(Luncbox1
:o Jealous! I've seen Yngwie live before, so together we're like 2/3 of the original G3 lineup :P
Concerts are good because of the atmosphere, and because of the thrill you get from seeing your favourite songs performed live by your favourite artists right in front of you. :)Ninja-HippoIndeed......seeing a favorite band live is teh awesomest. Haven't seen much of you.....good to see you almost live as well.:lol:
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Concerts are good because of the atmosphere, and because of the thrill you get from seeing your favourite songs performed live by your favourite artists right in front of you. :)LJS9502_basicIndeed......seeing a favorite band live is teh awesomest. Haven't seen much of you.....good to see you almost live as well.:lol: I've been buried under a large pile of law essays. I'm finished now though, and thus have returned to tell people why concerts are awesome. I saw the roots just last week actually, and it was fantastic. :P
Well whatever band you saw mustnot have been very good. Take, for example, Radiohead at Lollapalooza.
The weather was perfect and the 150k people in attendance were all really chill and respectful of eachother, for the most part. When performing live, Thom and the boys do things perfectly, if not better than what's recorded on the album. They played 24 songs which is roughly over an over- definately longer than two average-length CDs. That's the most expensive concert I've been to-tickets were $70 dollers for one day, but I've been to some excellent shows for only $12.
Don't let that first experience ruin your entire opinion is what I'm getting at.
[QUOTE="LittleHands134"]1. The only music I've ever heard that sounded good live were slower folk songs in a small club. As for the rock music, most of it seemed too loud, they forgot some of the words which bothered me, and the instrument/voices sounded a little off at times. 2. Maybe not the first thing, but aren't most concert regulars pretty loud? My perfect concert would be every sitting quietly and enjoying the music. I guess it's too much for people to not act like apes when they're in a large group though. 3. It's loud and offensive. I can hear every word of a song when I listen to it in my ipod or on the computer, but at a concert, I wouldn't be able to make it all out because there would be some loud man next to me singing along with the song. 4. I like polished, it doesn't hurt my ears. 5. Most of the time you can't see them though. Unless you have the best seats in the house, they aren't really that visible, and you still never get to meet them in person. If I really enjoyed a band, I would look for a biography book about the lead singer's life.sAndroid17you obviously dont like music.
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Is that your official diagnosis? Sounds like he doesn't like loud... not that he doesn't like music. TC, you sound like you'd enjoy a cIassical recital atmosphere much more than modern music. Frankly, I think most of the people who attend live popular music concerts do so because they ENJOY the noise and the hectic atmosphere. It is exactly what you loathe that they love.
Concerts are good because of the atmosphere, and because of the thrill you get from seeing your favourite songs performed live by your favourite artists right in front of you. :)Ninja-Hippo
Exactly. It's much more of an experience.
you obviously dont like music.[QUOTE="sAndroid17"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]1. The only music I've ever heard that sounded good live were slower folk songs in a small club. As for the rock music, most of it seemed too loud, they forgot some of the words which bothered me, and the instrument/voices sounded a little off at times. 2. Maybe not the first thing, but aren't most concert regulars pretty loud? My perfect concert would be every sitting quietly and enjoying the music. I guess it's too much for people to not act like apes when they're in a large group though. 3. It's loud and offensive. I can hear every word of a song when I listen to it in my ipod or on the computer, but at a concert, I wouldn't be able to make it all out because there would be some loud man next to me singing along with the song. 4. I like polished, it doesn't hurt my ears. 5. Most of the time you can't see them though. Unless you have the best seats in the house, they aren't really that visible, and you still never get to meet them in person. If I really enjoyed a band, I would look for a biography book about the lead singer's life.pianist
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Is that your official diagnosis? Sounds like he doesn't like loud... not that he doesn't like music. TC, you sound like you'd enjoy a cIassical recital atmosphere much more than modern music. Frankly, I think most of the people who attend live popular music concerts do so because they ENJOY the noise and the hectic atmosphere. It is exactly what you loathe that they love.
So you're saying someone who doesn't like Rhianna would go just because they like the atmosphere?
I would only want to see either A Perfect Circle or Zero 7 live, because they are my favourite. I wouldn't go to watch someone live because of the atmosphere.
Most people I know go to watch their favourite bands play because they love their music. I don't think I've ever come across someone who goes because they "ENJOY the noise and hectic atmosphere."
you obviously dont like music.[QUOTE="sAndroid17"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]1. The only music I've ever heard that sounded good live were slower folk songs in a small club. As for the rock music, most of it seemed too loud, they forgot some of the words which bothered me, and the instrument/voices sounded a little off at times. 2. Maybe not the first thing, but aren't most concert regulars pretty loud? My perfect concert would be every sitting quietly and enjoying the music. I guess it's too much for people to not act like apes when they're in a large group though. 3. It's loud and offensive. I can hear every word of a song when I listen to it in my ipod or on the computer, but at a concert, I wouldn't be able to make it all out because there would be some loud man next to me singing along with the song. 4. I like polished, it doesn't hurt my ears. 5. Most of the time you can't see them though. Unless you have the best seats in the house, they aren't really that visible, and you still never get to meet them in person. If I really enjoyed a band, I would look for a biography book about the lead singer's life.pianist
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Is that your official diagnosis? Sounds like he doesn't like loud... not that he doesn't like music. TC, you sound like you'd enjoy a cIassical recital atmosphere much more than modern music. Frankly, I think most of the people who attend live popular music concerts do so because they ENJOY the noise and the hectic atmosphere. It is exactly what you loathe that they love.
You are generalizing as much as he is. It's about seeing the band play. Crowds are a part of it but not the reason people attend the concert. And not liking loud music does not automatically mean he'll like classical.;)So you're saying someone who doesn't like Rhianna would go just because they like the atmosphere?
I would only want to see either A Perfect Circle or Zero 7 live, because they are my favourite. I wouldn't go to watch someone live because of the atmosphere.
Most people I know go to watch their favourite bands play because they love their music. I don't think I've ever come across someone who goes because they "ENJOY the noise and hectic atmosphere."
CBR600-RR
They can hear the music at home. So why go to a concert? For the experience. The noise and hectic atmosphere that he was complaining about are part of that experience. Seeing your favourite musicians play live is simply part of the atmosphere - just part that he wasn't complaining about in his post. The point here was supposed to be a simple one - that people attend concerts because they enjoy the aspects of them that he dislikes.
You are generalizing as much as he is. It's about seeing the band play. Crowds are a part of it but not the reason people attend the concert. And not liking loud music does not automatically mean he'll like classical.;)LJS9502_basic
Sheesh. You expect me to list every single reason a person MAY attend a concert in response to a post which made reference to little more than noise and atmosphere? And I didn't say he'd like cIassical music... I said that he'd like the atmosphere of a cIassical recital - which is very much as he describes his 'perfect concert.'
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You are generalizing as much as he is. It's about seeing the band play. Crowds are a part of it but not the reason people attend the concert. And not liking loud music does not automatically mean he'll like classical.;)pianist
Sheesh. You expect me to list every single reason a person MAY attend a concert in response to a post which made reference to little more than noise and atmosphere? And I didn't say he'd like cIassical music... I said that he'd like the atmosphere of a cIassical recital - which is very much as he describes his 'perfect concert.'
I expect not to see concert going due to crowd and noise as the reason. Which is what you said. Most people go for the band. The live experience. Crowds are a part if the band has any notice. But I have yet to encounter anyone that attends concerts for the crowd. He described a folk concert as what he enjoys. The problem is he doesn't like the music and thus doesn't get why anyone attends those concerts.I really don't understand it. I've only been to one concert and that was about three years ago, but it was hell on earth. I see no intelligent reason why anyone would want to go, even if they are a fan of the music.
1. The bands never sound as good live, especially rock bands.
2. There's normally rude, horrible smelling people filling the seats, and they're always very loud.
3. It's hard to enjoy the music when there's people screaming right next to you.
4. You get a generally better sound quality from listening to the music at home.
5. Concerts cost more than two CDs would, and you get more songs from two CDs, at a better sound quality.
There's my five main reasons. It just doesn't make sense for someone to waste their time and money on going to a concert. Why do people do it?
1. You are listening to the wrong bands then. I've heard bands that sound great live.2. I guess it depends on the fan base. I haven't noticed that.
3. Are you kidding? The music is loud. You need to get into the music.
4. You get polished sound...not better. Real music shouldn't be studio fixed.
5. The experience is different. Nothing like seeing a band you enjoy live. Provided they are good live.. What bands have you seen that aren't able to play live?
1. The only music I've ever heard that sounded good live were slower folk songs in a small club. As for the rock music, most of it seemed too loud, they forgot some of the words which bothered me, and the instrument/voices sounded a little off at times. 2. Maybe not the first thing, but aren't most concert regulars pretty loud? My perfect concert would be every sitting quietly and enjoying the music. I guess it's too much for people to not act like apes when they're in a large group though. 3. It's loud and offensive. I can hear every word of a song when I listen to it in my ipod or on the computer, but at a concert, I wouldn't be able to make it all out because there would be some loud man next to me singing along with the song. 4. I like polished, it doesn't hurt my ears. 5. Most of the time you can't see them though. Unless you have the best seats in the house, they aren't really that visible, and you still never get to meet them in person. If I really enjoyed a band, I would look for a biography book about the lead singer's life. 1. Rock music is different from folk music, eg it is meant to be loud! It's live of course it's not going to be pitch-tone perfect. 2. Sitting quitely and enjoying the music? Hmmm I don't think so. I would prefere to be in the mosh to my favourite band like coldplay or something. I go there to be involved and have a good time, I can sit down and sing at home. 3. Answering the same point for the 3rd time, rock concerts are MEANT to be loud. 4. Wear ear-plugs 5. Do you really think you are going to meet them in person, as well as the other 100 000 people with you. They are visible. If they're not, you could read the book.I expect not to see concert going due to crowd and noise as the reason. Which is what you said. Most people go for the band. The live experience. Crowds are a part if the band has any notice. But I have yet to encounter anyone that attends concerts for the crowd. He described a folk concert as what he enjoys. The problem is he doesn't like the music and thus doesn't get why anyone attends those concerts. LJS9502_basic
And so again... they get nothing from a concert that they couldn't get at home if all they're going for is the band. You've misinterpreted what I wrote. I did not write that people ONLY go for the noise and hectic atmosphere. I said most go because they enjoy what he loathes. If the noise or atmosphere bothered them, they wouldn't go. They'd sit at home, like the TC, and listen to their CDs.
I didn't read his post that carefully, but I was under the impression that he DOES like this music... just not performed live. He made reference to the folk music concert as more along the lines of his 'perfect concert,' but it is the atmosphere of a rock concert that has been at the heart of his argument from the beginning. That's what I was addressing. And to a lesser extent, the peculiar response that he must not like music because he doesn't like live rock shows.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I expect not to see concert going due to crowd and noise as the reason. Which is what you said. Most people go for the band. The live experience. Crowds are a part if the band has any notice. But I have yet to encounter anyone that attends concerts for the crowd. He described a folk concert as what he enjoys. The problem is he doesn't like the music and thus doesn't get why anyone attends those concerts. pianist
And so again... they get nothing from a concert that they couldn't get at home if all they're going for is the band. You've misinterpreted what I wrote. I did not write that people ONLY go for the noise and hectic atmosphere. I said most go because they enjoy what he loathes. If the noise or atmosphere bothered them, they wouldn't go. They'd sit at home, like the TC, and listen to their CDs.
I didn't read his post that carefully, but I was under the impression that he DOES like this music... just not performed live. He made reference to the folk music concert as more along the lines of his 'perfect concert,' but it is the atmosphere of a rock concert that has been at the heart of his argument from the beginning. That's what I was addressing. And to a lesser extent, the peculiar response that he must not like music because he doesn't like live rock shows.
Well now there is a difference between hearing a band live and hearing a bands studio work. They are very different experiences. That is why people attend concerts. Heck...my perfect concert would be a performance just for me so I get the best seats in the house and don't have to worry about someone standing directly in front of me. Though crowd energy is cool....it's not the reason for attending the show.I got the impression he's not much of a rock fan. Rock has always been intended to be played loud....even at home. Anyway...off to work,.
Well now there is a difference between hearing a band live and hearing a bands studio work. They are very different experiences. That is why people attend concerts. Heck...my perfect concert would be a performance just for me so I get the best seats in the house and don't have to worry about someone standing directly in front of me. Though crowd energy is cool....it's not the reason for attending the show.
I got the impression he's not much of a rock fan. Rock has always been intended to be played loud....even at home. Anyway...off to work,.
LJS9502_basic
Indeed. That's exactly what I was pointing out. The noise levels and atmosphere are part of the experience that people enjoy, but he doesn't. So if he wants to understand why people 'subject themselves' to something he hates, he just needs to understand that some people LIKE the aspects of a rock concert that he hates. If loud did not contribute to a rock concert or drove people away, musicians wouldn't play loud.
As for energy... just a couple of replies up:
2. Sitting quitely and enjoying the music? Hmmm I don't think so. I would prefere to be in the mosh to my favourite band like coldplay or something. I go there to be involved and have a good time, I can sit down and sing at home.the_kidisblack
I don't think he's alone. I think a lot fewer people would attend rock concerts if this involvement wasn't possible. That's the hectic atmosphere I was referring to.
Have fun at work!
Maybe concerts just arent your thing.
Cause I can't think of many things better than seeing my favorite bands. People have generally always been cool at all the shows I've been to and every band I've seen sounded great.
[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I kind of feel bad for you and what you're missing out on because of your jaded view of music and musicians. But only bad enough to type this. LittleHands134
Here's a list of musicians who died to alcohol or drug related deaths. There's a lot more, these are the only ones I could write down from the list before my hand hurt. My view on musicians is jaded for a reason.
Jimi Hendrix
Janis Joplin
Phil Lynott
Jim Morrison
Sid Vicious
Dennis Wilson
GG Allin
West Arkeen
Chet Baker
John Balance
Lester Bangs
Bix Beiderbecke
John Belushi
Wes Berggren
Dave Bidwell
Tommy Bolin
John Bonham
James Booker
Erik Brodreskift
Herman Brood
Dennis Brown
Rob Buck
Paul Butterfield
Toy Caldwell
Casey Calvert
Leroy Carr
Gene Clark
Sonny Clark
Michael Clarke
Brian Cole
Carl Crack
Darby Crash
Robbin Crosby
Jesse Ed Davis
Keven DuBrow
Tommy Edwards
John Entwistle
Rick Evers
Howie Epstein
Pete Farndon
Brenda Fassie
Zac Foley
Judy Garland
Dwayne Goettel
Sean Greenway
Stacy Guess
Tim Hardin
Eddie Hazel
Tim Hemensley
Billie Holiday
Peter Laughner
Frankie Lymon
David McComb
Robbie McIntosh
Miss Christine
Malcolm Owen
John Panozzo
Charlie Parker
Bon Scott
*Lists every other artist/band here that DID not die from substance abuse* I can 100% guarantee you that my list would be longer than yours.[QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]I kind of feel bad for you and what you're missing out on because of your jaded view of music and musicians. But only bad enough to type this. Sajedene
Here's a list of musicians who died to alcohol or drug related deaths. There's a lot more, these are the only ones I could write down from the list before my hand hurt. My view on musicians is jaded for a reason.
*Lists every other artist/band here that DID not die from substance abuse* I can 100% guarantee you that my list would be longer than yours. *lists ANYONE who died from alcohol/drug abuse* his list proves nothingif you think studio quality is better, then it's obvious you haven't seen a synth band live. they sound roughly the same live as they do in the studio just amplified. they don't make you deaf nearly as much as guitar bands do for a few days. they do however, make everything vibrate more.
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