The Dark Knight Rises! Box Office update, 160 million opening weekend!

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Not a single thing you mentioned there is anything outside of typical movie fanfare. 'How did he get the bombs on the boats?' He had goons to do it. Who knows. He bribed someone who works for the boat company. Who knows. It doesn't matter. To explain all that would detract from the film. How did batman get a plane to pick him up in China? He's a billionaire who owns his own defense company, having a plane come pick him up isn't a crazy plot hole. And besides, the problem with the Dark Knight Rises isn't so much plot holes as the plot itself. The script is just a mess. The events are way too epic for their own good, the stakes are too high to be relate to and as such the Dark Knight is much more gripping and emotionally involving even though the stakes are vastly lower and the villain isn't anywhere near as ridiculously super-evil. A crazed sociopath putting some bombs on a ferry is not out of this world. A crazed sociopath blowing up half the city and taking its entire populus hostage under threat of nuclear holocaust is something a little more 'hey... this seems kinda silly.' meetroid8

So what is a villian vaporizing a huge city's water supply to make the whole city trip the f*ck out? Is that not out of this world or is it kinda silly?

In high doses it kills you, remember? It doens't just trip you. Rachel almost died

A couple of questions after a few extra viewings of the ending: At the end, why is John Blake given a bag? Is that what Bruce Wayne left him in his will? How in the world did Wayne have time to write that into his will? I assume it was Wayne because the movie later shows coordinates that appear to have directed Blake to the Batcave. Secondly, after giving away the bag, the woman mentions a missing item. The man mentions a strand of pearls. Is he referring to Martha Wayne's pearl necklace that she wore when she was murdered that had been stoled by Selina Kyle? Is that what Kyle was wearing during her last scene with Wayne in Paris? It seems like I already know the answers to these two questions, but if I'm wrong, please correct me. I'm just curious.Genetic_Code

No worries you got it right

I have to ask, does anyone else think the "Wheres the trigger?!" bit was an intentional call back to the "Where are they?!" bit in TDK, I was laughing hard at that!

I'm surprised people enjoyed the twist or were suprised by it, seriously she is a pretty high calibur actress and was pretty obviious she was going to be importatn, plus I felt it was just to add more drama and add another hurdle for Batman to overcome. It took away from Bane a bit, and was just a weak twist nad way to get the plot out. It was obvious from the moment Bane said he was continuing the LOS works that he wanted to end Gotham.

I persoanlly felt the film was weak, stadning on its own. Not enough Catwoman, Bane, or Batman. The pit was really increabaily dull, yeah yeah, Bruce had to overcome and 'rise' but really didnt like how it dragged on. With Batman out of the game, this became a JGL movie. I felt that the football stadium scene was cool, but it lost its luster after its been in trailers forever.

It felt bloated, it really did. It just got to big an they couldn't figure a way to do it. As someone earlier mentioned, I agree that the cliche's weren't handled as well as they should've been.

I don't completely understand the point of Bane's whole take over Gotham either. He broke Batman and wanted to continue LOS plans. He should've won at the Football scene, the movie should've ended there!

The movie had its moments (intro kicked ass) and the acting all around was superb. Bane was great, not as out of left field spectatular as Joker (but im oker fanboy:P) but definatly a worthy seccessor. Catwoman was good, and knew how to rock the Batpod. JGL did good. The entire returning crew was also great!

Overall though, I felt this film was still really weak, maybe I need to watch it again, or I missed something that everyone else got:/

I have to ask, does anyone else think the "Wheres the trigger?!" bit was an intentional call back to the "Where are they?!" bit in TDK, I was laughing hard at that!

I'm surprised people enjoyed the twist or were suprised by it, seriously she is a pretty high calibur actress and was pretty obviious she was going to be importatn, plus I felt it was just to add more drama and add another hurdle for Batman to overcome. It took away from Bane a bit, and was just a weak twist nad way to get the plot out. It was obvious from the moment Bane said he was continuing the LOS works that he wanted to end Gotham.

I persoanlly felt the film was weak, stadning on its own. Not enough Catwoman, Bane, or Batman. The pit was really increabaily dull, yeah yeah, Bruce had to overcome and 'rise' but really didnt like how it dragged on. With Batman out of the game, this became a JGL movie. I felt that the football stadium scene was cool, but it lost its luster after its been in trailers forever.

It felt bloated, it really did. It just got to big an they couldn't figure a way to do it. As someone earlier mentioned, I agree that the cliche's weren't handled as well as they should've been.

I don't completely understand the point of Bane's whole take over Gotham either. He broke Batman and wanted to continue LOS plans. He should've won at the Football scene, the movie should've ended there!

The movie had its moments (intro kicked ass) and the acting all around was superb. Bane was great, not as out of left field spectatular as Joker (but im oker fanboy:P) but definatly a worthy seccessor. Catwoman was good, and knew how to rock the Batpod. JGL did good. The entire returning crew was also great!

Overall though, I felt this film was still really weak, maybe I need to watch it again, or I missed something that everyone else got:/

Bardock47

Spoken in normal conventional, common sense form. However, BINGOBINGO BINGO. Everything is exactly right as to why the movie fell short. It is incredible bloated, very sloppy with an already slow start, and an even more redundant final act. Not to mention the serious tone the movie sets sucks up so much of the "fun" and excitement the movie could have had. I've expressed my disappointment enough in this thread but some very iffy ideas were used indeed.

mexicangordo

Also, agee on the lack of fun. I dont mind dark movies, but this had such lack of just fun. In TDK, Jokers doing what he wants left and right, it suck and Batman is losing, but at least The Joker brings such a fun and intense act to the forefront, you cant wait to see him again and his dashing evil, or there is at least a a scene with Batman to look forward to. This had, Bane wins, so heres some scene of underground cops led by JGL and the recently bed relieved Gordon while Bruce is in the pit.

Also, am I the only one sesing some kind of messgae here. I swear there is an underlying theme, with the entire Wall Street thing, I felt that the movie defiantly had some obvious political undertones, but idk.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Spoken in normal conventional, common sense form. However, BINGOBINGO BINGO. Everything is exactly right as to why the movie fell short. It is incredible bloated, very sloppy with an already slow start, and an even more redundant final act. Not to mention the serious tone the movie sets sucks up so much of the "fun" and excitement the movie could have had. I've expressed my disappointment enough in this thread but some very iffy ideas were used indeed.

Bardock47

Also, am I the only one sesing some kind of messgae here. I swear there is an underlying theme, with the entire Wall Street thing, I felt that the movie defiantly had some obvious political undertones, but idk.

And yes, they were trying to corolate it with the 99% protests.

Today i'm again watching Batman Begins, now i feel it was really a underated movie lol.It should be in same league with TDK and TDKR

indzman

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Spoken in normal conventional, common sense form. However, BINGOBINGO BINGO. Everything is exactly right as to why the movie fell short. It is incredible bloated, very sloppy with an already slow start, and an even more redundant final act. Not to mention the serious tone the movie sets sucks up so much of the "fun" and excitement the movie could have had. I've expressed my disappointment enough in this thread but some very iffy ideas were used indeed.

mexicangordo

Also, am I the only one sesing some kind of messgae here. I swear there is an underlying theme, with the entire Wall Street thing, I felt that the movie defiantly had some obvious political undertones, but idk.

And yes, they were trying to corolate it with the 99% protests.

[QUOTE="indzman"]

Today i'm again watching Batman Begins, now i feel it was really a underated movie lol.It should be in same league with TDK and TDKR

The_Gaming_Baby

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="Bardock47"] Glad I'm not the only one thinking this. I wasn't even comparing it to TDK, I was going in expecting something between TDK and BB. Just a good Nolan movie, and didn't get that. You can imagine how dissapointed I was, i didnt even have ridcualous hype or expectations.

Also, am I the only one sesing some kind of messgae here. I swear there is an underlying theme, with the entire Wall Street thing, I felt that the movie defiantly had some obvious political undertones, but idk.

Bardock47

And yes, they were trying to corolate it with the 99% protests.

Major Spoilers for anyone

Just some nitpicks I had with the movie.

I think the film suffered from what all film trilogy's suffer from, the whole *we gotta make it bigger* mentality that ruins triologys for me like it did with Transformers3.

It almost didn't feel like a Batman film to me rather a typical Terrorist movie where Batman just happens to be in it. Batman Begins and TDK Felt more like a Batman and Gotham movie then The Dark Knight Rises, it felt alittle silly that I was drawn away from the Gotham universe to somehow give a **** about what the world (The US) thinks of the whole Gotham take over thing, yes realistically I assume the Government would step in but idk to me it just took me out of the world unlike its prequels.

Bane's performance was done extremely well having to act with body language and eyes only would have been a difficult thing to do for any actor. Banes *death* felt rushed and overall pretty crappy considering how much backstory they gave him compared to The Joker, getting blown upp by Catwomen felt like a kick in the nuts for a overall badass character. And this is my own nitpick but arrrrg why no *Venom* they could have made it believable making it come off as a *wonder drug* but I guess it wouldn't have fit in Nolans Universe.

Robin felt rushed as well, don't get me wrong the character of (Blake) Robin was really done well and felt great giving a perhaps more personal story about what is going on with Gotham and its civilians while providing some nice acting. But the whole shaping into Robin felt really average to me the whole *you wear the same mask THUS I KNOW YOUR BATMAN* felt..stupid to me I would have liked if they expanded on the evolution of Blake becoming into Robin rather then him simply picking off where Batman left off. But I guess it would have drawn out the movie even longer.

Oh and I kinda Wish Dent didn't die the whole Judge scene with Scarcrow would have been soo much better if Dent was the one doing it *You live...*flips coin* you die* Or if Scarcrow put on his mask when he made his verdict.

Overall I pretty decent movie and I assume most will say Dark Knight Rises is better because they were impressed by the flashy lights and bigger set pieces but to me The Dark Knight is way better. Oh and Im a obsessed joker fan so im alittle Biased haha.

[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"][QUOTE="indzman"]

Today i'm again watching Batman Begins, now i feel it was really a underated movie lol.It should be in same league with TDK and TDKR

mitu123

After having seen the Dark Knight Rises twice now (friday and monday) and having let it sink in, I have to rank these movies accordingly

Plot

The Dark Knight>Batman Begins>The Dark Knight Rises

Depth

The Dark Knight>Batman Begins>The Dark Knight Rises

Action

The Dark Knight Rises>Batman Begins>The Dark Knight

Acting

The Dark Knight Rises>The Dark Knight>Batman Begins

Emotion

The Dark Knight=The Dark Knight Rises>Batman Begins

Overall

The Dark Knight>Batman Begins>The Dark Knight Rises

Acting

The Dark Knight Rises>The Dark Knight>Batman Begins

Pikminmaniac

Really?

Mr. Plinkett's review of The Dark Knight Rises!

To me the best part was the ending. SPOILER I love the fact that we saw Bruce and Selina together at the end. What I hate about the comics is how hard the writers always seemed to work at keeping the two apart. It just got annoying after a while...a while in the comic world means freaking decades.

To me the best part was the ending. SPOILER I love the fact that we saw Bruce and Selina together at the end. What I hate about the comics is how hard the writers always seemed to work at keeping the two apart. It just got annoying after a while...a while in the comic world means freaking decades.

rzepak

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Acting

The Dark Knight Rises>The Dark Knight>Batman Begins

sammyjenkis898

Really?

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Acting

The Dark Knight Rises>The Dark Knight>Batman Begins

The_Gaming_Baby

Really?

but in the Dark Knight Rises we get

-Christian Bale's best performance

-Michael Caine's best performance

-Gary Oldman's best performance

-an outstanding performance from Anne Hathaway

-an outstanding performance from Joseph Gorden-levitt

-an outstanding performance from Tom Hardy

Sure, Heath Ledger and Aaran Eckhart are amazing in The Dark Knight, but the acting as a whole is better in Rises IMO

When you could hear what Bane was saying that is.

When you could hear what Bane was saying that is.

TheFallenDemon

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

When you could hear what Bane was saying that is.

mitu123

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Nor did I, in fact, I wrote a mini-pre review a day or two before the movie and posted it here. I told people to prepare for disappointment but as it turnedout, a majority of OT are one sided Bat fanboys (go figure?) and only saw the good. I never expressed it was a bad film, nor do I even think TDK is a great film but this movie was a huge disappointment imo. Just very unsatisfying--relyingtoo much on the ending to make people forget how bad some parts were.

And yes, they were trying to corolate it with the 99% protests.

Blake135

Major Spoilers for anyone

Just some nitpicks I had with the movie.

I think the film suffered from what all film trilogy's suffer from, the whole *we gotta make it bigger* mentality that ruins triologys for me like it did with Transformers3.

It almost didn't feel like a Batman film to me rather a typical Terrorist movie where Batman just happens to be in it. Batman Begins and TDK Felt more like a Batman and Gotham movie then The Dark Knight Rises, it felt alittle silly that I was drawn away from the Gotham universe to somehow give a **** about what the world (The US) thinks of the whole Gotham take over thing, yes realistically I assume the Government would step in but idk to me it just took me out of the world unlike its prequels.

Bane's performance was done extremely well having to act with body language and eyes only would have been a difficult thing to do for any actor. Banes *death* felt rushed and overall pretty crappy considering how much backstory they gave him compared to The Joker, getting blown upp by Catwomen felt like a kick in the nuts for a overall badass character. And this is my own nitpick but arrrrg why no *Venom* they could have made it believable making it come off as a *wonder drug* but I guess it wouldn't have fit in Nolans Universe.

Robin felt rushed as well, don't get me wrong the character of (Blake) Robin was really done well and felt great giving a perhaps more personal story about what is going on with Gotham and its civilians while providing some nice acting. But the whole shaping into Robin felt really average to me the whole *you wear the same mask THUS I KNOW YOUR BATMAN* felt..stupid to me I would have liked if they expanded on the evolution of Blake becoming into Robin rather then him simply picking off where Batman left off. But I guess it would have drawn out the movie even longer.

Oh and I kinda Wish Dent didn't die the whole Judge scene with Scarcrow would have been soo much better if Dent was the one doing it *You live...*flips coin* you die* Or if Scarcrow put on his mask when he made his verdict.

Overall I pretty decent movie and I assume most will say Dark Knight Rises is better because they were impressed by the flashy lights and bigger set pieces but to me The Dark Knight is way better. Oh and Im a obsessed joker fan so im alittle Biased haha.

What seats did you people have at your viewing?

Mine was in the second-to-front row.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

When you could hear what Bane was saying that is.

Bardock47

What seats did you people have at your viewing?

Mine was in the second-to-front row.

TheFallenDemon

Saw it a second time. Still amazing, incredible film. I might go see it a third time. :P

but in the Dark Knight Rises we get

-Christian Bale's best performance

-Michael Caine's best performance

-Gary Oldman's best performance

-an outstanding performance from Anne Hathaway

-an outstanding performance from Joseph Gorden-levitt

-an outstanding performance from Tom Hardy

Sure, Heath Ledger and Aaran Eckhart are amazing in The Dark Knight, but the acting as a whole is better in Rises IMO

Pikminmaniac

Oldman pleading for his son's life is head-and-shoulders above anything he did in The Dark Knight Rises

Every performance you listed is trumped by Ledger's. We get four new performances, two of which being impressive. Cotillard was wasted.

What seats did you people have at your viewing?

Mine was in the second-to-front row.

TheFallenDemon

Front-row and second-to front, for viewings. That was pretty a miserable time for my neck and eye.

What seats did you people have at your viewing?

Mine was in the second-to-front row.

TheFallenDemon

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

What seats did you people have at your viewing?

Mine was in the second-to-front row.

Travo_basic

[QUOTE="Travo_basic"][QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

What seats did you people have at your viewing?

Mine was in the second-to-front row.

Hallenbeck77

When you could hear what Bane was saying that is.

TheFallenDemon

I wouldn't say you couldn't understand him but I sure as hell had to pay more attention when the guy was talking to try and not miss anything, at the start the voice sorta put me off but soon you get used to it.

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

When you could hear what Bane was saying that is.

mitu123

Just saw the movie and am a little let down that there weren't more Batman and Catwoman fight scenes. I'm a little confused with the ending though. I thought there would only be 3 movies and it would be done but they left it open for another one it seems like. What's going on?-sharp-shooter-

I don't think that some of you realize that Batman did die... But Bruce Wayne lived.

I don't think that some of you realize that Batman did die... But Bruce Wayne lived.

MacBoomStick

hurrrr

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

When you could hear what Bane was saying that is.

mitu123

[QUOTE="-sharp-shooter-"]Just saw the movie and am a little let down that there weren't more Batman and Catwoman fight scenes. I'm a little confused with the ending though. I thought there would only be 3 movies and it would be done but they left it open for another one it seems like. What's going on?SaintLeonidas

I am positive that there will not be a spin off trilogy with JGL. Besides, without Nolan it would feel wierd

Back row for me, but I was at an IMAX theater.Hallenbeck77

I like to sit towards the back for IMAX as well. The screen is so big that I feel that I'm too close if I sit anywhere closer than the back 3 rows.

Bane's voice was clear as day for me tooSwift_Boss_A

[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"]Back row for me, but I was at an IMAX theater.CJL182

I like to sit towards the back for IMAX as well. The screen is so big that I feel that I'm too close if I sit anywhere closer than the back 3 rows.

If it's any consolation, a lot of theaters here try to pass off a slightly bigger screen as the genuine thing.