Santa banned from school because of Muslims

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for surrealnumber5
surrealnumber5

23044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#251 surrealnumber5
Member since 2008 • 23044 Posts

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Seriously dude, read the Old Testament. Some of those books do nothing more than justify ethnic cleansing.

Cheesehead9099

I'm well aware of the vileness of the Old Testament. What, may I ask, is your point?

Did an islamic guy trample your lawn or something?

i found out here by some of our local Muslim posters that Islam is a anti-dog religion, that is quite barbaric as dogs rule!

Avatar image for alexside1
alexside1

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#252 alexside1
Member since 2006 • 4412 Posts

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] .... .... yay for thinking that a whole religion is evil! :| It's people like you that stir hate crimes. Honestly. That verse was totally cherry picked. Admit it.dromiceiomimus
The whole religion IS evil. Misogyny is evil. Flogging people for sex outside of marriage is evil. Homophobia is evil. Slavery is evil, antisemitism is evil, and the idea of hell is evil. And, oh look, the Quran condones every ****ing one of those. And here you are, having the arrogance to accuse me of stirring hate crimes purely for pointing out the barbarism of the Quran.

Evil according to what? You?

Avatar image for Cheesehead9099
Cheesehead9099

2849

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#253 Cheesehead9099
Member since 2008 • 2849 Posts
[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] .... .... yay for thinking that a whole religion is evil! :| It's people like you that stir hate crimes. Honestly. That verse was totally cherry picked. Admit it.

The whole religion IS evil. Misogyny is evil. Flogging people for sex outside of marriage is evil. Homophobia is evil. Slavery is evil, antisemitism is evil, and the idea of hell is evil. And, oh look, the Quran condones every ****ing one of those. And here you are, having the arrogance to accuse me of stirring hate crimes purely for pointing out the barbarism of the Quran.

"barbarism of the Quran". Oh god. :| Ok first of all I'm not muslim. So there isn't much of a bias here, at least for me. But I really think that you should reevaluate your stance on islam, because as it stands you have SO MUCH STUFF wrong about it.
Avatar image for surrealnumber5
surrealnumber5

23044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#254 surrealnumber5
Member since 2008 • 23044 Posts
Santa doesn't really have anything to do with any particular religion; he's just a symbol of joy and generosity.UT_Wrestler
and as some of the communist posters here pointed out capitalism, bringing joy and generosity to the masses.
Avatar image for Cheesehead9099
Cheesehead9099

2849

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#255 Cheesehead9099
Member since 2008 • 2849 Posts

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]I'm well aware of the vileness of the Old Testament. What, may I ask, is your point?surrealnumber5

Did an islamic guy trample your lawn or something?

i found out here by some of our local Muslim posters that Islam is a anti-dog religion, that is quite barbaric as dogs rule!

Dogs do rule... hmm.
Avatar image for Cheesehead9099
Cheesehead9099

2849

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#256 Cheesehead9099
Member since 2008 • 2849 Posts
[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]The whole religion IS evil. Misogyny is evil. Flogging people for sex outside of marriage is evil. Homophobia is evil. Slavery is evil, antisemitism is evil, and the idea of hell is evil. And, oh look, the Quran condones every ****ing one of those. And here you are, having the arrogance to accuse me of stirring hate crimes purely for pointing out the barbarism of the Quran.dromiceiomimus
... Are you aware that the Bible also condones many of those things???

Yes, and the bible is also an evil book. What's your point?

My point is that many religions condone these types of things because they were the old fashioned way of thinking. It DOES NOT mean that the entire religion and everyone who follows it is necessarily "evil".
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#257 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]How does that context make any difference? It's still a general statement demanding tribute from non-Muslims and the context provides no evidence that it is anything other.Ninja-Hippo
How can you even say that given the context i just gave you? They were attacked. Their allies betrayed them. They went to battle. Muhammad told his men that any of the arab tribes who betrayed them who they encounter along the way should be given the chance to rejoin them or forced to pay tribute. You're trying to present that as a teaching or something that all non-muslims in the world should be subjugated and forced to pay tax. That's literally so far away from what it actually is its absurd.

I'm moved to wonder, then, why it doesn't merely refer in that verse to those who betray the Muslims. I'm also to moved to point out that the Quran states clearly that the tax is to ensure that non-Muslims 'feel themselves subdued'. It is an expression of Muslim superiority, and of the subjugation of their victims. The thing is a grotesque, discriminatory poll tax to be levied by the Islamic state; to suggest that it applies purely as some kind of temporary arrangement is absurd.
Avatar image for alexside1
alexside1

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#258 alexside1
Member since 2006 • 4412 Posts
[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] ... Are you aware that the Bible also condones many of those things???

Yes, and the bible is also an evil book. What's your point?

My point is that many religions condone these types of things because they were the old fashioned way of thinking. It DOES NOT mean that the entire religion and everyone who follows it is necessarily "evil".

Funny that he keeps calling things "evil" as a typical religious fanatic. Oh the irony it burns bad.
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#259 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] ... Are you aware that the Bible also condones many of those things???

Yes, and the bible is also an evil book. What's your point?

My point is that many religions condone these types of things because they were the old fashioned way of thinking. It DOES NOT mean that the entire religion and everyone who follows it is necessarily "evil".

You're damn right it was done in the 'old-fashioned way of thinking' - it's barbarianism, and the very idea that it should be a model for modern society is ethically repugnant.
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#260 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]Yes, and the bible is also an evil book. What's your point?alexside1
My point is that many religions condone these types of things because they were the old fashioned way of thinking. It DOES NOT mean that the entire religion and everyone who follows it is necessarily "evil".

Funny that he keeps calling things "evil" as a typical religious fanatic. Oh the irony it burns bad.

Hah - alright, so I'm fanatically opposed to misogyny and homophobia and antisemitism and slavery. Is that bad? I think it's something to be proud of.
Avatar image for alexside1
alexside1

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#261 alexside1
Member since 2006 • 4412 Posts
[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] My point is that many religions condone these types of things because they were the old fashioned way of thinking. It DOES NOT mean that the entire religion and everyone who follows it is necessarily "evil".

Funny that he keeps calling things "evil" as a typical religious fanatic. Oh the irony it burns bad.

Hah - alright, so I'm fanatically opposed to misogyny and homophobia and antisemitism and slavery. Is that bad? I think it's something to be proud of.

Which it base on a book that you call it evil. Can anyone smell the hypocrisy in the morning?
Avatar image for bachilders
bachilders

1430

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#262 bachilders
Member since 2005 • 1430 Posts

Part of growing up is learning to function where you are uncomfortable. This nation is growing babies by the hundreds with crap like this.

Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#263 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="alexside1"] Funny that he keeps calling things "evil" as a typical religious fanatic. Oh the irony it burns bad.

Hah - alright, so I'm fanatically opposed to misogyny and homophobia and antisemitism and slavery. Is that bad? I think it's something to be proud of.

Which it base on a book that you call it evil. Can anyone smell the hypocrisy in the morning?

Try again. I was referring to the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion - I must say, I've never seen 'antisemitism' used to simply mean dislike of the Jewish religion.
Avatar image for Asim90
Asim90

3692

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#264 Asim90
Member since 2005 • 3692 Posts
[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] .... .... yay for thinking that a whole religion is evil! :| It's people like you that stir hate crimes. Honestly. That verse was totally cherry picked. Admit it.

antisemitism is evil,

Arabic is a Semitic language and Muslims are Semites also, so by the real definition of antisemitism, you are antisemitic yourself. Talked yourself into a right one there didn't you.
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#265 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="Asim90"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] .... .... yay for thinking that a whole religion is evil! :| It's people like you that stir hate crimes. Honestly. That verse was totally cherry picked. Admit it.

antisemitism is evil,

Arabic is a Semitic language and Muslims are Semites also, so by the real definition of antisemitism, you are antisemitic yourself. Talked yourself into a right one there didn't you.

Oh, Muslims are a race now? No one tells me anything around he- oh no, wait, you're talking utter ****.
Avatar image for worlock77
worlock77

22552

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#266 worlock77
Member since 2009 • 22552 Posts

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] .... .... yay for thinking that a whole religion is evil! :| It's people like you that stir hate crimes. Honestly. That verse was totally cherry picked. Admit it.Asim90
antisemitism is evil,

Arabic is a Semitic language and Muslims are Semites also, so by the real definition of antisemitism, you are antisemitic yourself. Talked yourself into a right one there didn't you.

Arabs, not Muslims, are Semites. Not all Arabs are Muslim. Not all Muslims are Arabs.

Avatar image for deactivated-59d151f079814
deactivated-59d151f079814

47239

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#267 deactivated-59d151f079814
Member since 2003 • 47239 Posts
... Pretty silly when Santa is a commercial holiday figure, a myth.. It really doesn't hold any relationship with Christianity now.. That being said, I am willing to bet we would hear much GREATER out roar if a Islamic myth figure came to there to give the kids gifts and what not.
Avatar image for alexside1
alexside1

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#268 alexside1
Member since 2006 • 4412 Posts
[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]Hah - alright, so I'm fanatically opposed to misogyny and homophobia and antisemitism and slavery. Is that bad? I think it's something to be proud of.dromiceiomimus
Which it base on a book that you call it evil. Can anyone smell the hypocrisy in the morning?

Try again. I was referring to the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion - I must say, I've never seen 'antisemitism' used to simply mean dislike of the Jewish religion.

I think you misunderstood what antisemitism means.
Avatar image for Cheesehead9099
Cheesehead9099

2849

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#269 Cheesehead9099
Member since 2008 • 2849 Posts

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]Yes, and the bible is also an evil book. What's your point?dromiceiomimus
My point is that many religions condone these types of things because they were the old fashioned way of thinking. It DOES NOT mean that the entire religion and everyone who follows it is necessarily "evil".

You're damn right it was done in the 'old-fashioned way of thinking' - it's barbarianism, and the very idea that it should be a model for modern society is ethically repugnant.

Yes, that's why not many Muslims/Christians interpret those writings in that way anymore. Because they are not fit for modern day society. IT DOES NOT MEAN, in ANY way, that the religion is EVIL.

Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#270 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
... Pretty silly when Santa is a commercial holiday figure, a myth.. It really doesn't hold any relationship with Christianity now.. That being said, I am willing to bet we would hear much GREATER out roar if a Islamic myth figure came to there to give the kids gifts and what not.sSubZerOo
Much of which would come from Muslims themselves, if that myth figure were whom I think you're thinking of. No depictions of the Prophet, remember?
Avatar image for Asim90
Asim90

3692

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#271 Asim90
Member since 2005 • 3692 Posts

[QUOTE="Asim90"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"] antisemitism is evil, worlock77

Arabic is a Semitic language and Muslims are Semites also, so by the real definition of antisemitism, you are antisemitic yourself. Talked yourself into a right one there didn't you.

Arabs, not Muslims, are Semites. Not all Arabs are Muslim. Not all Muslims are Arabs.

Obviously. A large number of Muslims are Arabs though so by definition he is being antisemitic whilst calling others antisemitic. Hypocrisy at the highest level
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#272 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="alexside1"] Which it base on a book that you call it evil. Can anyone smell the hypocrisy in the morning?

Try again. I was referring to the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion - I must say, I've never seen 'antisemitism' used to simply mean dislike of the Jewish religion.

I think you misunderstood what antisemitism means.

I and almost everyone else use it to mean dislike of the Jewish race. By all means use it however you want to, but of course your criticisms won't apply if you're simply wilfully failing to understand what I mean by 'antisemitism'.
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#273 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="Asim90"] Obviously. A large number of Muslims are Arabs though so by definition he is being antisemitic whilst calling others antisemitic. Hypocrisy at the highest level

Shush, please. Are you claiming I look down on Arabs for being of semitic origin?
Avatar image for -Y2J-
-Y2J-

1000

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#274 -Y2J-
Member since 2005 • 1000 Posts

Ohh Just to had Honour Killings are actually semi common in the Uk not alone somewhere else in the world so again i stand by and say its an in general intolerant religion.

jwsoul
Just to add that those honour killivs are not religious, I come from the group that always has these problem ( Pakistani and Muslim) honour killings is not a islamic thng because theyhappen in south Asia including India and Sri Lanka, hear are cultural issues, it's similar to female genital mutilation which people think is an iamic thing but its really an African cultural tradition. What a lot of people assume are problems or issues with Islam are really cultural tradition of hose countires bfiremislam that still exist. If you have more questions I'm happy to answer the
Avatar image for worlock77
worlock77

22552

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#275 worlock77
Member since 2009 • 22552 Posts

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Asim90"] Arabic is a Semitic language and Muslims are Semites also, so by the real definition of antisemitism, you are antisemitic yourself. Talked yourself into a right one there didn't you.Asim90

Arabs, not Muslims, are Semites. Not all Arabs are Muslim. Not all Muslims are Arabs.

Obviously. A large number of Muslims are Arabs though so by definition he is being antisemitic whilst calling others antisemitic. Hypocrisy at the highest level

Actually I believe that only around 20% of the world's Muslims are Arabic.

Avatar image for alexside1
alexside1

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#276 alexside1
Member since 2006 • 4412 Posts
[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] My point is that many religions condone these types of things because they were the old fashioned way of thinking. It DOES NOT mean that the entire religion and everyone who follows it is necessarily "evil".

You're damn right it was done in the 'old-fashioned way of thinking' - it's barbarianism, and the very idea that it should be a model for modern society is ethically repugnant.

Yes, that's why not many Muslims/Christians FOLLOW those writings anymore. Because they are not fit for modern day society. IT DOES NOT MEAN, in ANY way, that the religion is EVIL.

I wouldn't use the word "follow' I rather use the word "interpretation".
Avatar image for Cheesehead9099
Cheesehead9099

2849

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#277 Cheesehead9099
Member since 2008 • 2849 Posts
[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]You're damn right it was done in the 'old-fashioned way of thinking' - it's barbarianism, and the very idea that it should be a model for modern society is ethically repugnant.alexside1
Yes, that's why not many Muslims/Christians FOLLOW those writings anymore. Because they are not fit for modern day society. IT DOES NOT MEAN, in ANY way, that the religion is EVIL.

I wouldn't use the word "follow' I rather use the word "interpretation".

Yeah that's a better word. Lemme edit my post.
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#278 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] Yes, that's why not many Muslims/Christians FOLLOW those writings anymore. Because they are not fit for modern day society. IT DOES NOT MEAN, in ANY way, that the religion is EVIL.

On what basis can a Muslim turn around and say to God, 'actually, I don't think your revealed word is fit for modern society - we know better now'?
Avatar image for Asim90
Asim90

3692

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#279 Asim90
Member since 2005 • 3692 Posts
[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]Try again. I was referring to the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion - I must say, I've never seen 'antisemitism' used to simply mean dislike of the Jewish religion.dromiceiomimus
I think you misunderstood what antisemitism means.

I and almost everyone else use it to mean dislike of the Jewish race.

Which is completely wrong. Why can't you comprehend that? Stop being ignorant and just accept it. Antisemitism isn't just antijewish. That's a fallacy created by the media and is constantly used by hypocrites like yourself, and it's incredibly frustrating.
Avatar image for deactivated-59d151f079814
deactivated-59d151f079814

47239

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#280 deactivated-59d151f079814
Member since 2003 • 47239 Posts

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]... Pretty silly when Santa is a commercial holiday figure, a myth.. It really doesn't hold any relationship with Christianity now.. That being said, I am willing to bet we would hear much GREATER out roar if a Islamic myth figure came to there to give the kids gifts and what not.dromiceiomimus
Much of which would come from Muslims themselves, if that myth figure were whom I think you're thinking of. No depictions of the Prophet, remember?

I am not thinking of the specific figure at all.. I am just pointing out YES its a over-reaction thats quite ridiculous.. But if Santa were a Islamic figure coming to these kids giving the gifts, I honestly believe we would see a massive outrage.. Especially with the past few years of people wanting Islam to be expelled from the United States.

Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#281 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="-Y2J-"] Just to add that those honour killivs are not religious, I come from the group that always has these problem ( Pakistani and Muslim) honour killings is not a islamic thng because theyhappen in south Asia including India and Sri Lanka, hear are cultural issues, it's similar to female genital mutilation which people think is an iamic thing but its really an African cultural tradition. What a lot of people assume are problems or issues with Islam are really cultural tradition of hose countires bfiremislam that still exist. If you have more questions I'm happy to answer the

Isn't it an interesting coincidence that these cultural issues arise almost exclusively in Islamic culture? Shocking, really.
Avatar image for worlock77
worlock77

22552

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#282 worlock77
Member since 2009 • 22552 Posts

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] Yes, that's why not many Muslims/Christians FOLLOW those writings anymore. Because they are not fit for modern day society. IT DOES NOT MEAN, in ANY way, that the religion is EVIL. dromiceiomimus
On what basis can a Muslim turn around and say to God, 'actually, I don't think your revealed word is fit for modern society - we know better now'?

On the same basis that Christians and Jews adjust their religion to fit the society they live in.

Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#283 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] Yes, that's why not many Muslims/Christians FOLLOW those writings anymore. Because they are not fit for modern day society. IT DOES NOT MEAN, in ANY way, that the religion is EVIL. worlock77

On what basis can a Muslim turn around and say to God, 'actually, I don't think your revealed word is fit for modern society - we know better now'?

On the same basis that Christians and Jews adjust their religion to fit the society they live in.

Except that Christians and Jews aren't obliged by their religion to believe that their holy books are the word of God. Try again.
Avatar image for deactivated-59d151f079814
deactivated-59d151f079814

47239

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#284 deactivated-59d151f079814
Member since 2003 • 47239 Posts

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] Yes, that's why not many Muslims/Christians FOLLOW those writings anymore. Because they are not fit for modern day society. IT DOES NOT MEAN, in ANY way, that the religion is EVIL. dromiceiomimus
On what basis can a Muslim turn around and say to God, 'actually, I don't think your revealed word is fit for modern society - we know better now'?

:| Christians do this.. So does every religion out there fitting into a first would country thats democratically controlled.. And yeah for a lack of a better way to say it.. We do know better today then we did centuries ago where will killed people for being heretics, witches or other such things.. People can choose what they want to believe in.

Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#285 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="Asim90"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="alexside1"] I think you misunderstood what antisemitism means.

I and almost everyone else use it to mean dislike of the Jewish race.

Which is completely wrong. Why can't you comprehend that? Stop being ignorant and just accept it. Antisemitism isn't just antijewish. That's a fallacy created by the media and is constantly used by hypocrites like yourself, and it's incredibly frustrating.

Lol. As you wish; dislike of the semitic race, then. Either way, I don't look down on people for being of semitic racial origins, so your point is moot. Off you go, now.
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#286 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] Yes, that's why not many Muslims/Christians FOLLOW those writings anymore. Because they are not fit for modern day society. IT DOES NOT MEAN, in ANY way, that the religion is EVIL. sSubZerOo

On what basis can a Muslim turn around and say to God, 'actually, I don't think your revealed word is fit for modern society - we know better now'?

:| Christians do this.. So does every religion out there fitting into a first would country thats democratically controlled.. And yeah for a lack of a better way to say it.. We do know better today then we did centuries ago where will killed people for being heretics, witches or other such things.. People can choose what they want to believe in.

As I said to the last guy who didn't have a clue: 'Except that Christians and Jews aren't obliged by their religion to believe that their holy books are the word of God. Try again.'
Avatar image for Verge_6
Verge_6

20282

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#287 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts
[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]On what basis can a Muslim turn around and say to God, 'actually, I don't think your revealed word is fit for modern society - we know better now'?dromiceiomimus

On the same basis that Christians and Jews adjust their religion to fit the society they live in.

Except that Christians and Jews aren't obliged by their religion to believe that their holy books are the word of God. Try again.

...Yyyyyyes. They are, actually. :|
Avatar image for worlock77
worlock77

22552

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#288 worlock77
Member since 2009 • 22552 Posts

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]On what basis can a Muslim turn around and say to God, 'actually, I don't think your revealed word is fit for modern society - we know better now'?dromiceiomimus

On the same basis that Christians and Jews adjust their religion to fit the society they live in.

Except that Christians and Jews aren't obliged by their religion to believe that their holy books are the word of God. Try again.

Uhhh, yeah, they are.

Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#289 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

On the same basis that Christians and Jews adjust their religion to fit the society they live in.

worlock77

Except that Christians and Jews aren't obliged by their religion to believe that their holy books are the word of God. Try again.

Uhhh, yeah, they are.

Oh? Care to show me the Christian statement of faith, claming that the Bible is God's word?
Avatar image for -Y2J-
-Y2J-

1000

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#290 -Y2J-
Member since 2005 • 1000 Posts
[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="-Y2J-"] Just to add that those honour killivs are not religious, I come from the group that always has these problem ( Pakistani and Muslim) honour killings is not a islamic thng because theyhappen in south Asia including India and Sri Lanka, hear are cultural issues, it's similar to female genital mutilation which people think is an iamic thing but its really an African cultural tradition. What a lot of people assume are problems or issues with Islam are really cultural tradition of hose countires bfiremislam that still exist. If you have more questions I'm happy to answer the

Isn't it an interesting coincidence that these cultural issues arise almost exclusively in Islamic culture? Shocking, really.

It's not really a coincidence I mean I know what your saying but that's how it is, I'm jus trying to clear up some misinformation. Here is a family down he street from me who are White British and full Muslim converts and they culturally are English, the things I listed would be alien to them as that's not part of their culture or tradition. Don't just think Muslims are from south Asia or Arabs. Hey in man countires and are different people, Chinese Muslims will act Chinese and Mexican Muslims are still culturally Mexican and so forth, this is important to remember
Avatar image for Verge_6
Verge_6

20282

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#291 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts
[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]Except that Christians and Jews aren't obliged by their religion to believe that their holy books are the word of God. Try again.dromiceiomimus

Uhhh, yeah, they are.

Oh? Care to show me the Christian statement of faith, claming that the Bible is God's word?

2 Timothy 3:15-17; "from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work"
Avatar image for Asim90
Asim90

3692

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#292 Asim90
Member since 2005 • 3692 Posts

[QUOTE="Asim90"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]I and almost everyone else use it to mean dislike of the Jewish race. dromiceiomimus
Which is completely wrong. Why can't you comprehend that? Stop being ignorant and just accept it. Antisemitism isn't just antijewish. That's a fallacy created by the media and is constantly used by hypocrites like yourself, and it's incredibly frustrating.

Lol. As you wish; dislike of the semitic race, then. Either way, I don't look down on people for being of semitic racial origins, so your point is moot. Off you go, now.

I find it hilarious that you are trying to dismiss me like I haven't thrown you off your pedestal, maybe because you didn't expect your ignorance to blow up in your own face? The point is, not all semites are jews, so to say that antisemitism is anti-jewish is wrong. Many muslims are semites and you are clearly anti-muslim, so by definition you are a anti-semitic hypocrite. Now off you go.

Avatar image for worlock77
worlock77

22552

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#293 worlock77
Member since 2009 • 22552 Posts

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]Except that Christians and Jews aren't obliged by their religion to believe that their holy books are the word of God. Try again.dromiceiomimus

Uhhh, yeah, they are.

Oh? Care to show me the Christian statement of faith, claming that the Bible is God's word?

Dude, you're just being damned ignorant now.

Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#294 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="Verge_6"] 2 Timothy 3:15-17; "from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work"

Except that that verse is only God-breathed if it's true, and thus if a Christian does not believe that the verse is true, then they are not obliged to believe that the Bible is God-breathed.
Avatar image for Verge_6
Verge_6

20282

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#295 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts
[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] 2 Timothy 3:15-17; "from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work"

Except that that verse is only God-breathed if it's true, and thus if a Christian does not believe that the verse is true, then they are not obliged to believe that the Bible is God-breathed.

I'm pretty sure the verse in question automatically destroys that feeble attempt of a rebuttal.
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#296 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Asim90"] Which is completely wrong. Why can't you comprehend that? Stop being ignorant and just accept it. Antisemitism isn't just antijewish. That's a fallacy created by the media and is constantly used by hypocrites like yourself, and it's incredibly frustrating.Asim90

Lol. As you wish; dislike of the semitic race, then. Either way, I don't look down on people for being of semitic racial origins, so your point is moot. Off you go, now.

I find it hilarious that you are trying to dismiss me like I haven't thrown you off your pedestal, maybe because you didn't expect your ignorance to blow up in your own face? The point is, not all semites are jews, so to say that antisemitism is anti-jewish is wrong. Many muslims are semites and you are clearly anti-muslim, so by definition you are a anti-semitic hypocrite. Now off you go.

Cute. But of course antisemitism IS anti-Jewish, because the Jews are a subset of the semites.
Avatar image for dromiceiomimus
dromiceiomimus

113

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#297 dromiceiomimus
Member since 2010 • 113 Posts
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] 2 Timothy 3:15-17; "from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work"

Except that that verse is only God-breathed if it's true, and thus if a Christian does not believe that the verse is true, then they are not obliged to believe that the Bible is God-breathed.

I'm pretty sure the verse in question automatically destroys that feeble attempt of a rebuttal.

If and only if it's true. You don't really understand the logical issues entailed by self-reference, do you?
Avatar image for deactivated-59d151f079814
deactivated-59d151f079814

47239

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#298 deactivated-59d151f079814
Member since 2003 • 47239 Posts

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]On what basis can a Muslim turn around and say to God, 'actually, I don't think your revealed word is fit for modern society - we know better now'?dromiceiomimus

:| Christians do this.. So does every religion out there fitting into a first would country thats democratically controlled.. And yeah for a lack of a better way to say it.. We do know better today then we did centuries ago where will killed people for being heretics, witches or other such things.. People can choose what they want to believe in.

As I said to the last guy who didn't have a clue: 'Except that Christians and Jews aren't obliged by their religion to believe that their holy books are the word of God. Try again.'

... Yes they are.. :| You ask a extremist on either of those religions and they will say their book is the word of god..

Avatar image for Verge_6
Verge_6

20282

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#299 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"]Except that that verse is only God-breathed if it's true, and thus if a Christian does not believe that the verse is true, then they are not obliged to believe that the Bible is God-breathed.dromiceiomimus
I'm pretty sure the verse in question automatically destroys that feeble attempt of a rebuttal.

If and only if it's true. You don't really understand the logical issues entailed by self-reference, do you?

You've been repeatedly proven wrong since you started posting in this thread. No amount of hackneyed observations is going to change that.

Avatar image for deactivated-59d151f079814
deactivated-59d151f079814

47239

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#300 deactivated-59d151f079814
Member since 2003 • 47239 Posts

[QUOTE="dromiceiomimus"][QUOTE="Asim90"] Which is completely wrong. Why can't you comprehend that? Stop being ignorant and just accept it. Antisemitism isn't just antijewish. That's a fallacy created by the media and is constantly used by hypocrites like yourself, and it's incredibly frustrating.Asim90

Lol. As you wish; dislike of the semitic race, then. Either way, I don't look down on people for being of semitic racial origins, so your point is moot. Off you go, now.

I find it hilarious that you are trying to dismiss me like I haven't thrown you off your pedestal, maybe because you didn't expect your ignorance to blow up in your own face? The point is, not all semites are jews, so to say that antisemitism is anti-jewish is wrong. Many muslims are semites and you are clearly anti-muslim, so by definition you are a anti-semitic hypocrite. Now off you go.

Also to note.. Semitic is a definition of their language group.. Hebrew and Arabic are in the semitic language tree... Though it could be argued that antisemitism was directed towards Jews.. It was coined based upon the Nazi Regime's hatred.. Because if we were take it literally it could mean that you do not favor those languages, not necessarly the people that speak them.