Is the USA healthcare system a joke compared to other countries

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[QUOTE="kraychik"]

Of course, blame the system... I wonder if you cried during Chretien's "Friendly Dictatorship" for the same reasons. Spare us your hypocrisy. I will not disagree with you that Harper is hardly cutting things as he should, although you're twisting yourself up in a knot because as a socialist shouldn't you be opposing cuts to the essential public services that need every dime they can get? You don't strike us as a person who supports less government in the Canadian context, although perhaps you just pretend to be a leftist on GameSpot?

My facts on America's increased materialistic wealth over Canada on a per capita basis is indisputable. I've obviously brusied your Canadian ego so you're now resorting to obfuscations. Things vary between states, yes. Things vary between provinces and territories, too. So what? I stated this several times and clearly - I was comparing the average Canadian to the average American. In other words, I'm taking all of Canada into account when comparing it to all of America. The fact is simple - Canada's socialistic leanings make it a poorer country than America. You completely ignored everything I said (predictable, of course) and went into an irrelevant and obvious statement about variations between states and "income inequality" in America. If you want income equality, go to North Korea, they're pretty equal over there.

kraychik

I also find the bolded hilarious especially because this stemmed from me talking to another poster about the differences in the American and Canadian post-secondary education model.

The quality of life is much higher in socialist countries. Education is better in socialist countries. America has a bigger disparity between the middle class and the rich. Life expectancy is lower in American than most socialist countries. Crime is higher as well. America jails the most people in the world and has the greates prision populatiom, plus our prisions are mostly PRIVATE now not federal.

l America has is a greater materialistic quality? Get fvcking real. For the rich we do.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] I didn't insult you. Either way, your fragile Canadian ego has been bruised after America's greater materialistic quality of life was thrown in your face. Clearly some of your earlier illusions have been shattered. kraychik

The quality of life is much higher in socialist countries. Education is better in socialist countries. America has a bigger disparity between the middle class and the rich. Life expectancy is lower in American than most socialist countries. Crime is higher as well. America jails the most people in the world and has the greates prision populatiom, plus our prisions are mostly PRIVATE now not federal.

l America has is a greater materialistic quality? Get fvcking real. For the rich we do.

Ah, the rightist moron. You can't adress the rest of my post. And you haven't broken though any of my narratives, you're a blind right winger. The best universites are in American, but can cost over $100k+ of debt. The U.S's student loan debt is far greater than any other loan. A good amount of our economic problems stems from such high costs.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] I didn't insult you. Either way, your fragile Canadian ego has been bruised after America's greater materialistic quality of life was thrown in your face. Clearly some of your earlier illusions have been shattered. kraychik

The quality of life is much higher in socialist countries. Education is better in socialist countries. America has a bigger disparity between the middle class and the rich. Life expectancy is lower in American than most socialist countries. Crime is higher as well. America jails the most people in the world and has the greates prision populatiom, plus our prisions are mostly PRIVATE now not federal.

l America has is a greater materialistic quality? Get fvcking real. For the rich we do.

The United States accepts thousands of immigrants (more so than any "socialist" country). Of course life expectancy will be lower...many of the countries where these immigrants came from often have horrible health care and nutrition in comparison to the U.S....as for crime, it's common knowledge that immigrants generally commit more crime than people that were born in the country... it's a very narrow minded point of view.

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

The quality of life is much higher in socialist countries. Education is better in socialist countries. America has a bigger disparity between the middle class and the rich. Life expectancy is lower in American than most socialist countries. Crime is higher as well. America jails the most people in the world and has the greates prision populatiom, plus our prisions are mostly PRIVATE now not federal.

l America has is a greater materialistic quality? Get fvcking real. For the rich we do.

Omni-Wrath

Ah, the rightist moron. You can't adress the rest of my post. And you haven't broken though any of my narratives, you're a blind right winger. The best universites are in American, but can cost over $100k+ of debt. The U.S's student loan debt is far greater than any other loan. A good amount of our economic problems stems from such high costs.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Since when did people only admire others based on their political beliefs? Maybe I am really hard to figure out, I never thought I was though.Ace6301

You can't reason with Kraychick. It is impossible.
Whenever he can't come up with a good reason, he go to the "LEFTIST" tactic and insults.

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

The quality of life is much higher in socialist countries. Education is better in socialist countries. America has a bigger disparity between the middle class and the rich. Life expectancy is lower in American than most socialist countries. Crime is higher as well. America jails the most people in the world and has the greates prision populatiom, plus our prisions are mostly PRIVATE now not federal.

l America has is a greater materialistic quality? Get fvcking real. For the rich we do.

kingkong0124

The United States accepts thousands of immigrants (more so than any "socialist" country). Of course life expectancy will be lower...many of the countries where these immigrants came from often have horrible health care and nutrition in comparison to the U.S....as for crime, it's common knowledge that immigrants generally commit more crime than people that were born in the country... it's a very narrow minded point of view.

Immigrants does not fuel crime, so no. Their health is horrible since they can't fvcking afford health care. Illegals can't even get Medicaid.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Ah, another leftist domestic America-hater. What a surprise, you follow me around everywhere because I break through your narratives. The best schools and universities are in America (private schools, of course). I would address the rest of what you said, but.... what's the point? You're boring as hell. Keep coveting the possessions of those that have what you want. Jealousy and resentment compose the backbone of leftist ideology, and you're a testament to that. kingkong0124

Ah, the rightist moron. You can't adress the rest of my post. And you haven't broken though any of my narratives, you're a blind right winger. The best universites are in American, but can cost over $100k+ of debt. The U.S's student loan debt is far greater than any other loan. A good amount of our economic problems stems from such high costs.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Ah, another leftist domestic America-hater. What a surprise, you follow me around everywhere because I break through your narratives. The best schools and universities are in America (private schools, of course). I would address the rest of what you said, but.... what's the point? You're boring as hell. Keep coveting the possessions of those that have what you want. Jealousy and resentment compose the backbone of leftist ideology, and you're a testament to that. Omni-Wrath

The United States accepts thousands of immigrants (more so than any "socialist" country). Of course life expectancy will be lower...many of the countries where these immigrants came from often have horrible health care and nutrition in comparison to the U.S....as for crime, it's common knowledge that immigrants generally commit more crime than people that were born in the country... it's a very narrow minded point of view.

Immigrants does not fuel crime, so no. Their health is horrible since they can't fvcking afford health care. Illegals can't even get Medicaid.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

You can't reason with Kraychick. It is impossible.
Whenever he can't come up with a good reason, he go to the "LEFTIST" tactic and insults.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Ah, another leftist domestic America-hater. What a surprise, you follow me around everywhere because I break through your narratives. The best schools and universities are in America (private schools, of course). I would address the rest of what you said, but.... what's the point? You're boring as hell. Keep coveting the possessions of those that have what you want. Jealousy and resentment compose the backbone of leftist ideology, and you're a testament to that. Omni-Wrath

The United States accepts thousands of immigrants (more so than any "socialist" country). Of course life expectancy will be lower...many of the countries where these immigrants came from often have horrible health care and nutrition in comparison to the U.S....as for crime, it's common knowledge that immigrants generally commit more crime than people that were born in the country... it's a very narrow minded point of view.

Immigrants does not fuel crime, so no. Their health is horrible since they can't fvcking afford health care. Illegals can't even get Medicaid.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Funny thing is, he forgot to mention that things like life expectancy and crime are often skewed.

The United States accepts thousands of immigrants (more so than any "socialist" country). Of course life expectancy will be lower...many of the countries where these immigrants came from often have horrible health care and nutrition in comparison to the U.S....as for crime, it's common knowledge that immigrants generally commit more crime than people that were born in the country... it's a very narrow minded point of view.

l4dak47

Immigrants does not fuel crime, so no. Their health is horrible since they can't fvcking afford health care. Illegals can't even get Medicaid.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"] Ah, another leftist domestic America-hater. What a surprise, you follow me around everywhere because I break through your narratives. The best schools and universities are in America (private schools, of course). I would address the rest of what you said, but.... what's the point? You're boring as hell. Keep coveting the possessions of those that have what you want. Jealousy and resentment compose the backbone of leftist ideology, and you're a testament to that. kingkong0124

Ah, the rightist moron. You can't adress the rest of my post. And you haven't broken though any of my narratives, you're a blind right winger. The best universites are in American, but can cost over $100k+ of debt. The U.S's student loan debt is far greater than any other loan. A good amount of our economic problems stems from such high costs.

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Immigrants does not fuel crime, so no. Their health is horrible since they can't fvcking afford health care. Illegals can't even get Medicaid.

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Immigrants does not fuel crime, so no. Their health is horrible since they can't fvcking afford health care. Illegals can't even get Medicaid.

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Immigrants does not fuel crime, so no. Their health is horrible since they can't fvcking afford health care. Illegals can't even get Medicaid.

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Immigrants does not fuel crime, so no. Their health is horrible since they can't fvcking afford health care. Illegals can't even get Medicaid.

kingkong0124

Do immigrants take American jobs? It?s a common refrain among those who want to tighten limits on legal immigration and deny a "path to citizenship" ? which they call "amnesty" ? to the millions of immigrants living in the U.S. illegally. There?s even a new Reclaim American Jobs Caucus in the House, with at least 41 members.

But most economists and other experts say there?s little to support the claim. Study after study has shown that immigrants grow the economy, expanding demand for goods and services that the foreign-born workers and their families consume, and thereby creating jobs. There is even broad agreement among economists that while immigrants may push down wages for some, the overall effect is to increase average wages for American-born workers.

But yes, Illegals do hurt us. Immigrants that come here legally do not hurt us, but Illegals workers do cause an expense to the American worker.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]'

Ah, the rightist moron. You can't adress the rest of my post. And you haven't broken though any of my narratives, you're a blind right winger. The best universites are in American, but can cost over $100k+ of debt. The U.S's student loan debt is far greater than any other loan. A good amount of our economic problems stems from such high costs.

Omni-Wrath

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

On top of that if you've only got a HS education, you're making less money, so your credit is going to be worse because you spend less.

Basically the poor/middle class would get raped financially, and I honestly think this is the goal of modern conservatives.

But yes, Illegals do hurt us. Immigrants that come here legally do not hurt us, but Illegals workers do cause an expense to the American worker. Omni-Wrath

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] many illegal immigrants DO take our jobs. they are often willing to be paid less than legal immigrants and other American citizens...kingkong0124

These corporations allow it since they want a BIGGER PROFIT.

Also, rebut on the student loans post.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] many illegal immigrants DO take our jobs. they are often willing to be paid less than legal immigrants and other American citizens...kingkong0124

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] solution to the student loan debts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGL-Ex1CD1c&t=2m54sTopTierHustler

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

On top of that if you've only got a HS education, you're making less money, so your credit is going to be worse because you spend less.

Basically the poor/middle class would get raped financially, and I honestly think this is the goal of modern conservatives.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] solution to the student loan debts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGL-Ex1CD1c&t=2m54sTopTierHustler

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

On top of that if you've only got a HS education, you're making less money, so your credit is going to be worse because you spend less.

Basically the poor/middle class would get raped financially, and I honestly think this is the goal of modern conservatives.

Conservatives also are into the American Dream delusion. If you just work hard enough, you'll be rich. However, it dosen't work like that if you are at the bottom without any help or an education.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

Omni-Wrath

On top of that if you've only got a HS education, you're making less money, so your credit is going to be worse because you spend less.

Basically the poor/middle class would get raped financially, and I honestly think this is the goal of modern conservatives.

Conservatives also are into the American Dream delusion. If you just work hard enough, you'll be rich. However, it dosen't work like that if you are at the bottom without any help or an education.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]'

Ah, the rightist moron. You can't adress the rest of my post. And you haven't broken though any of my narratives, you're a blind right winger. The best universites are in American, but can cost over $100k+ of debt. The U.S's student loan debt is far greater than any other loan. A good amount of our economic problems stems from such high costs.

Omni-Wrath

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

Omni-Wrath

On top of that if you've only got a HS education, you're making less money, so your credit is going to be worse because you spend less.

Basically the poor/middle class would get raped financially, and I honestly think this is the goal of modern conservatives.

Conservatives also are into the American Dream delusion. If you just work hard enough, you'll be rich. However, it dosen't work like that if you are at the bottom without any help or an education.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] solution to the student loan debts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGL-Ex1CD1c&t=2m54skingkong0124

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

Conservatives also are into the American Dream delusion. If you just work hard enough, you'll be rich. However, it dosen't work like that if you are at the bottom without any help or an education. Omni-Wrath

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]Conservatives also are into the American Dream delusion. If you just work hard enough, you'll be rich. However, it dosen't work like that if you are at the bottom without any help or an education. kingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Not at all. If the government were to stop federal loans, private companies would have a complete monopoly on student loans. Private student loans, even now, are more expensive. Without Federal Loans, there would probably be more debt or private companies would be selective and less would be able to go to college.

In a socialist country, university is free. Your tax money pays for it and it works well. The OVERALL EDUCATION, not just single universities, of socialist counties is much better.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]Conservatives also are into the American Dream delusion. If you just work hard enough, you'll be rich. However, it dosen't work like that if you are at the bottom without any help or an education. l4dak47

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I guess this is why Indian immigrants can come to America with no college education and own several gas station and earn a good living, while Americans born here are scraping by with their philosophy/art history degree. kingkong0124

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I guess this is why Indian immigrants can come to America with no college education and own several gas station and earn a good living, while Americans born here are scraping by with their philosophy/art history degree. kingkong0124

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Private loans would be cheaper, through competition...federal loans are the reason why the cost is so high. and in a socialist country, the people who work for their money get screwed over with the higher taxes....it's easy for you to sit here and say "higher taxes, woot woot!", when you haven't worked in a real job your whole life. kingkong0124

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Private loans would be cheaper, through competition...federal loans are the reason why the cost is so high. and in a socialist country, the people who work for their money get screwed over with the higher taxes....it's easy for you to sit here and say "higher taxes, woot woot!", when you haven't worked in a real job your whole life. surrealnumber5

How would it be a short term problem, unless the government were to intervene?