If you belief in evolution and are atheist let me ask you a question ?
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You can't possibly sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and that they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Look at all of the greatest scientists ever. Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Jonhannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, even Albert Einstein! There are many more also. Here's the link: Link.They were still ignorant if the rejected evolution, that's not saying they weren't intelligent in other areas though.....anyways, Einstein was atheist :o
You can't possibley sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and thta they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Gamezilla57
Also, notice how all these people lived before darwins time.
They were still ignorant if the rejected evolution, that's not saying they weren't intelligent in other areas though.....anyways, Einstein was atheist :o[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]Look at all of the greatest scientists ever. Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Jonhannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, even Albert Einstein! There are many more also. Here's the link: Link.
You can't possibley sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and thta they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
withouthatred
Also, notice how all these people lived before darwins time.
Einstein was not Athiest and this link proves that he wasn't. I have found qoutes by him that point to a higher being on secular websites. Read this link: Link.
It's a little long, though.
[QUOTE="withouthatred"]They were still ignorant if the rejected evolution, that's not saying they weren't intelligent in other areas though.....anyways, Einstein was atheist :o[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]Look at all of the greatest scientists ever. Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Jonhannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, even Albert Einstein! There are many more also. Here's the link: Link.
You can't possibley sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and thta they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Gamezilla57
Also, notice how all these people lived before darwins time.
Einstein was not Athiest and this link proves that he wasn't. I have found qoutes by him that point to a higher being on secular websites. Read this link: Link.
It's a little long, though.
Einstein was not an athiest, I watched a thing on the history channel about him and he was a big time believer in God.
[QUOTE="withouthatred"]They were still ignorant if the rejected evolution, that's not saying they weren't intelligent in other areas though.....anyways, Einstein was atheist :o[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]Look at all of the greatest scientists ever. Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Jonhannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, even Albert Einstein! There are many more also. Here's the link: Link.
You can't possibley sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and thta they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Gamezilla57
Also, notice how all these people lived before darwins time.
Einstein was not Athiest and this link proves that he wasn't. I have found qoutes by him that point to a higher being on secular websites. Read this link: Link.
It's a little long, though.
No, most of the things he was quoted on about religion were just philosophical thougths, and I really doubt that the man who said this;
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954. It is included in Albert Einstein: The
ÂFrom a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954. It is included in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, published by Princeton University Press.Albert Einstein, Out of My Later Years (New York: Philosophical Library, 1950), p. 27.
This is of course secondary in my point which is that the disbelieve of evolution is an item of ignorance.
Look at all of the greatest scientists ever and they believed in God. Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Jonhannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, even Albert Einstein! There are many more also. Here's the link: Link.
You can't possibly sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and that they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Gamezilla57
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BTW you would consider me a athiest... and yes these great minds are ignorant when it comes to such things as the creation of existance... As we all are.. I find it rather arrogant and presumptious to assume otherwise.. IF we did know the actuality and true fact we wouldn't be having this debate now would we.. I am merely saying their is no way to even start this argument when all of mankind has absolutly no points or facts to truely with hold as truth or at least a valid statement on either side be it science or religion... Because like it or not we have utterly NO clue what eternity means... We in our minds can not understand such things when everything piece of evidence has lead to believe that everything has a beginning as well as a ending... Â
 You have to put this into perspective.. The fact of the matter is we have no real measurement nor experience that we can use to even define what eternal truely is.. That goes the same for god, if we believe that the great universe had a beginning surely god did as well. Because as it stands we have no idea what eternity is and have not once ever EVER seen something that did not at least change or cease to exist..
  One more thing btw... Your argument is mute when philosophically when arguments are suppose to be made by the wieght of the point and NOT who says that point regardless if he is a king, famous scientist, religious leader etc..
[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="withouthatred"]They were still ignorant if the rejected evolution, that's not saying they weren't intelligent in other areas though.....anyways, Einstein was atheist :o[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]Look at all of the greatest scientists ever. Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Jonhannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, even Albert Einstein! There are many more also. Here's the link: Link.
You can't possibley sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and thta they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
bacon_is_sweet
Also, notice how all these people lived before darwins time.
Einstein was not Athiest and this link proves that he wasn't. I have found qoutes by him that point to a higher being on secular websites. Read this link: Link.
It's a little long, though.
Einstein was not an athiest, I watched a thing on the history channel about him and he was a big time believer in God.
Exactly! Einstein believed in God. I've got to go though so if this argument keeps on, just take a look at the links I posted. Good luck! :)
[QUOTE="bacon_is_sweet"][QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="withouthatred"]They were still ignorant if the rejected evolution, that's not saying they weren't intelligent in other areas though.....anyways, Einstein was atheist :o[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]Look at all of the greatest scientists ever. Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Jonhannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, even Albert Einstein! There are many more also. Here's the link: Link.
You can't possibley sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and thta they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Gamezilla57
Also, notice how all these people lived before darwins time.
Einstein was not Athiest and this link proves that he wasn't. I have found qoutes by him that point to a higher being on secular websites. Read this link: Link.
It's a little long, though.
Einstein was not an athiest, I watched a thing on the history channel about him and he was a big time believer in God.
Exactly! Einstein believed in God. I've got to go though so if this argument keeps on, just take a look at the links I posted. Good luck! :)
Like I said, this is only secondary in this conversation, the whole point has been in regards to evolution.
[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]Look at all of the greatest scientists ever and they believed in God. Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Jonhannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, even Albert Einstein! There are many more also. Here's the link: Link.
You can't possibly sit there and tell me that these scientists didn't know anything and that they were all ignorant. That would just show ignorance in yourself.
Albert Eintein-"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
sSubZerOo
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BTW you would consider me a athiest... and yes these great minds are ignorant when it comes to such things as the creation of existance... As we all are.. I find it rather arrogant and presumptious to assume otherwise.. IF we did know the actuality and true fact we wouldn't be having this debate now would we.. I am merely saying their is no way to even start this argument when all of mankind has absolutly no points or facts to truely with hold as truth or at least a valid statement on either side be it science or religion... Because like it or not we have utterly NO clue what eternity means... We in our minds can not understand such things when everything piece of evidence has lead to believe that everything has a beginning as well as a ending... Â
 You have to put this into perspective.. The fact of the matter is we have no real measurement nor experience that we can use to even define what eternal truely is.. That goes the same for god, if we believe that the great universe had a beginning surely god did as well. Because as it stands we have no idea what eternity is and have not once ever EVER seen something that did not at least change or cease to exist..
  One more thing btw... Your argument is mute when philosophically when arguments are suppose to be made by the wieght of the point and NOT who says that point regardless if he is a king, famous scientist, religious leader etc..
  I also find this very entertaining when religions such as Christianity can't even get a clear and concise interpretation of their holy book from one person to the next, each having their own interpretations of it.. Yet some how people are trying to presume how the universe came to be, when they can not even agree on things such as Noah's Ark on whether if it was a metaphor, exageration, etc...
1. See number 2.
2. You first admit that objective means that something is true regardless of the belief, and then you turn around and contradict yourself in the next sentence. The truth does not change. The only thing that changes are what we believe to be true. You are confusing the truth itself to the belief of what the truth is. The truth of a statement is true or false whether or not we believe it to be true or false. 2+2 will always equal 4. Even if you believe that it equals 5, it will still equal 4.
And again, if truth is objective, then what drives us to discover this fact? Our subjective beliefs cause us to search for an objective fact to prove that our beliefs are true, thus it is subjectivity that drives human progress, not objectivity. For example, I don't bother to look for proof that God exists because I have already found proof, the Bible. I don't care whether or not it is full of holes, if it is 2000 years old, or not, the word of God remains constant.
3. The reason you should change your beliefs is that as I said earlier, you act as you believe. The decisions that you make in your day to day life, decisions that affect you and other people, are derived from the beliefs that you hold in your head. If you believe something something that is wrong, especially when you know it's wrong, then your actions will be the direct result of a belief that is wrong. It is also impossible to hold two beliefs that are contradictory to one another. You cannot believe "A" and "Not A" both at the same time.
You're right, you can't do that, but it doesn't matter. I believe that I am in the right, just as you believe you are in the right, and so long as humanity remains an opinionated creature, that is the way it will stay. We will continue to argue until either you or I give up, we bend to the other's will, or a moderator locks this thread, in which case it will be continued in another religion thread that we both grace with our prescences, the former and latter of which are the most likely.
4. Human beings are by nature irrational creatures. Most people don't want to hear the truth because many times the truth is no comfort. People will believe lies because they want to believe they are true. You only have to open up a history book to prove this much. The truth is one of those things that people will use when it's convienient, but are all to happy to toss it aside the moment it challenges their own deeply held beliefs.
So then I can truthfully believe that your beliefs are irrational and be in the right, according to your statement. You're right, the truth is one of those things, but it doesn't matter, because opinion on what the truth is will continue these debates.
5. That's fine, if you want to try and combine science to make sense out of religion. I'll still argue it's a futile endeavor, but that's beside the point. Natural Selection is the concept that deals with organisms surviving to live long enough to reproduce. By applying it to another concept, you are changing the meaning of the words. You can do it, but the concept changes along with the meaning and no one would understand what the hell you were talking about. It would be like having a cat, but walking around telling people that it is really a dog that meows.
And that's why you explain it. You can't just go around believing that all people are incredibly dense, or else it's a pathetic world we live in.
Decessus
can i ask you a question too? who created god? god can't create god. you just cant just up out of no where and then create the universe. here's a quote for you, "isn't not god who creates people, it's people who creates god."RPG-erAnd thats the truth. people create god.
Just because we don't know how something happened, doesn't mean some omnipotent being did it. God is nothing more than an easy (and probably wrong) answer for questions we do not yet know. Sure there is no proof that god does or doesn't exist, but that is so by design alone. There is no way to prove some invisable, untouchable being does or doesn't exist.Â
The only analogy I can think of at the moment is this: Say someone is about to ask you a math question. You don't know what the question is or even if the answer is in fact a number. Yet before the question is even asked, you just say "seventy-three". There's no way to prove that answer is wrong without the question being asked, but it's also a random guess. It's the same situation with god.
People came up with the idea because they didn't understand the world around them. Of course we know far more about the universe than we did then, but by now, so many people believe a god exists, that people are drawn to the religion through a combination of peer pressure, family tradition, and a fear of going to hell. At this point, your argument is probably something along the lines of "but you can't prove evolution or the big bang happened either". This is true. However, that theory sure has a hell of a lot more evidence than just saying god did everything.
[QUOTE="azargushasb"]Before the big bang whier the universe started their was no time , space , or matter . HOW COULD THE UNIVERSE HAVE BEEN CREATED FROM NOTHINGNESS . YOU CANNOT CREATE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING . It it not one of the laws of psychics ? Their for their had to be a god to to create something from nothing . If you have a answer for me please tell me .
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qetuo6
What created God?
Nobody, God is the creator of all things and he was not created.
[QUOTE="TSCombo"]Yes and I disregard your disbelief because you want to escape the burden of your belief by not stating it. By not believing a God you believe in the opposite. It's like order and disorder. You don't believe in a purpose driven life or existence so you believe in the opposite. There is no safe world that you wish to live in by saying I simply don't believe in a God therefore no one else should. Love, trust, and potential are irrational yet they exist. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Your life is more than physical existance but you want to simplify it into a physical day-to-day survival. I can't help you there but my awareness of a transcendent unity that pervades all existence is not shaken, so we can't agree. Decessus
I don't think you are understanding what I said. I do not hold a belief. I lack a belief. The only "proof" that one needs to not believe in God is that there is no proof of God. Just as someone cannot prove the existence of the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Do you believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn also?
I also never said anything about a purpose driven life. The concept of God is not required to have a life that is meaningful.
Love, trust, and potential are abstract concepts that exist within the human mind. There would be no such thing as "love" if humans didn't exist. Love, by most people's definition, is simply a word that describes the relationship two people have between each other.
I might not be able to change your belief, but that's really only a secondary matter. I like hearing other people's viewpoints.Â
That's the point I'm trying to make to you. An Invisible Pink Unicorn is different than a belief in God because it's not dealing with the origin or purpose of Human Life. If you believe that God is a Pink Unicorn that's one thing but not believing in a Pink Unicorn by itself doesn't present a counter-view point in place of it. The question of a God does present a counter-view automaticaly in it's place by not believing in a God, you believe that there is not a God and therefore human life doesn't have purpose because it wasn't created with purpose. I believe your life has purpose, but you believe humans beings don't.
That's like saying jesus turned water into wine...until you prove it happened it's just an answer to a question. There is no proof of HOW it happened...that is what science is about.selbiewell it depends on what a person believes and faith. I believe and have faith in Allah but is there scientific evidence that there is an Allah? Maybe yes maybe no but that doesnt make a difference to me because I have faith.
[QUOTE="qetuo6"][QUOTE="azargushasb"]Before the big bang whier the universe started their was no time , space , or matter . HOW COULD THE UNIVERSE HAVE BEEN CREATED FROM NOTHINGNESS . YOU CANNOT CREATE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING . It it not one of the laws of psychics ? Their for their had to be a god to to create something from nothing . If you have a answer for me please tell me .
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Abdullahcoolyo
What created God?
Nobody, God is the creator of all things and he was not created.God obviously created himself.
Seriously though, there wasn't nothing before the Big Bang. If people knew at least one thing about the Big Bang, they would know it came from a super dense, super heated piece of mass and energy. I don't even believe the Big Bang.
We don't know, but evolution makes alot more sense IMOzeroman089x2hahahhahaha I love your sig
BOOYAKUSHA!
How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
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joezer3003
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.cause he is god?The creator of everything? SHAK IN BAKE!!!
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
[QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.cause he is god?The creator of everything? SHAK IN BAKE!!! Ah yes, that makes perfect sense. *sarcasm* :roll:
BOOYAKUSHA!
Abdullahcoolyo
[QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
Buffalo_Soulja
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
[QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
Buffalo_Soulja
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs.[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs. And the future to defy scientific beliefs?[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs. the hair in our nose has a purpose, the hair in our armpits have a purpose, our liver[QUOTE="Abdullahcoolyo"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.cause he is god?The creator of everything? SHAK IN BAKE!!! Ah yes, that makes perfect sense. *sarcasm* :roll: the hair in our nose has a purpose, the hair in our armpits have a purpose, our liver have a purpose so you saying us as a whole human being have no purpose makes perfect sense?
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
[QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
TSCombo
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs. And the future to defy scientific beliefs? I don't deny that the knowledge we humans know is flawed. Especially chemistry. Btw, that epi of Naruto is ****ing awesome. You seen epi 133 yet?[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs.I suppose. History does tend to repeat itself, however not much mentioned in the Bible has repeated.... I find common sense debunks a few religous beleifs too. :lol: I'm not always against religion though, some athiests have some pretty flimsy excuses for believing that God doesn't exist.
[QUOTE="TSCombo"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs. And the future to defy scientific beliefs? I don't deny that the knowledge we humans know is flawed. Especially chemistry. Btw, that epi of Naruto is ****ing awesome. You seen epi 133 yet? is naruto in english? and is it free to download or what?[QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
Buffalo_Soulja
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
Yo hombre, Time cannot be created by an entity, it exists because all other dimensions exist.
[QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
Abdullahcoolyo
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs. the hair in our nose has a purpose, the hair in our armpits have a purpose, our liver[QUOTE="Abdullahcoolyo"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.cause he is god?The creator of everything? SHAK IN BAKE!!! Ah yes, that makes perfect sense. *sarcasm* :roll: the hair in our nose has a purpose, the hair in our armpits have a purpose, our liver have a purpose so you saying us as a whole human being have no purpose makes perfect sense? I'm saying we chose our own purpose in life. Religion was created to explain things that were unexplainable at the time. The thing that really cooks my noodle is how people think that their religion is the correct one. For all that I know, the Greeks could have been right the whole time, and right now, Zeus is overlooking us, sharpening his lightning bolts about to strike a foolish mortal. The only reason you believe in the religion you believe right now is because someone, somewhere in the history of the word forced others to believe what he believes. Someone with power that is.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
Yeah, but I can't remember which one that is, I stopped watching right after the fillers started.TSComboGaargh! I know what you mean. I'm trying to get through all those fillers directly after *OMFG MAJOR SPOILERS!* Right after Sasuke goes off to Orochimaru. *SPOILERS OVER!* I'm almost finished with them..... I hope :(
[QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="TSCombo"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
Abdullahcoolyo
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs. And the future to defy scientific beliefs? I don't deny that the knowledge we humans know is flawed. Especially chemistry. Btw, that epi of Naruto is ****ing awesome. You seen epi 133 yet? is naruto in english? and is it free to download or what? There is Naruto in Japanese with English subtitles available on youtube :) Plus, you can d/l the latest 5 episodes for free off narutocentral.com[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
-The-Freeman-
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
Yo hombre, Time cannot be created by an entity, it exists because all other dimensions exist.
If you beleive in God I'm sure it's not very hard a stretch to believe Time was created.
[QUOTE="Abdullahcoolyo"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs. the hair in our nose has a purpose, the hair in our armpits have a purpose, our liver[QUOTE="Abdullahcoolyo"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.cause he is god?The creator of everything? SHAK IN BAKE!!! Ah yes, that makes perfect sense. *sarcasm* :roll: the hair in our nose has a purpose, the hair in our armpits have a purpose, our liver have a purpose so you saying us as a whole human being have no purpose makes perfect sense? I'm saying we chose our own purpose in life. Religion was created to explain things that were unexplainable at the time. The thing that really cooks my noodle is how people think that their religion is the correct one. For all that I know, the Greeks could have been right the whole time, and right now, Zeus is overlooking us, sharpening his lightning bolts about to strike a foolish mortal. The only reason you believe in the religion you believe right now is because someone, somewhere in the history of the word forced others to believe what he believes. Someone with power that is. well iv looked up at other religions and the problem iv found they are written by humans. There is often mistakes and other stuff. but when I read the Quran and look at the proof(mathmatical numerals,atoms,skies,ocean,sky,iron) which are being discovered recently have been said in this book 1,400 years ago. There couldve been 3 ways the Quran got it right. 1. Muhammed(saw) knew there was something smaller than an atom because he had a microscope which needs lenses(remember this is 1,400 years ago) 2. all of those things were a coincedance 3. They are the words of God.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
[QUOTE="-The-Freeman-"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
Buffalo_Soulja
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
Yo hombre, Time cannot be created by an entity, it exists because all other dimensions exist.
If you beleive in God I'm sure it's not very hard a stretch to believe Time was created.
  Yeah but that doesn't make your opinion any more correct over his... Or vice versa..
[QUOTE="-The-Freeman-"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
Buffalo_Soulja
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
Yo hombre, Time cannot be created by an entity, it exists because all other dimensions exist.
If you beleive in God I'm sure it's not very hard a stretch to believe Time was created.
That's a statement that many people don't understand. If you don't believe in God, good for you, but if you want to have a discussion about God then you can't create the idea of God then limit him.It's like saying that a bird can't exist because it wouldn't be able to fly :?  That's what the concept of a bird doesÂ
[QUOTE="Abdullahcoolyo"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="TSCombo"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
joezer3003
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
You agnostic, religious, atheist? I'm just curious to find out where you stand in this topic.Agnostic with a Physics background
Interesting, I usually turn to chemistry to explain how things may or may not occur. I suppose physics works too... History is prolly the best medium to defy religious beliefs. And the future to defy scientific beliefs? I don't deny that the knowledge we humans know is flawed. Especially chemistry. Btw, that epi of Naruto is ****ing awesome. You seen epi 133 yet? is naruto in english? and is it free to download or what? There is Naruto in Japanese with English subtitles available on youtube :) Plus, you can d/l the latest 5 episodes for free off narutocentral.com my friend was watching it on my computer so i might start watching it with him. But problem is there is like 100 episodes o.O[QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="-The-Freeman-"][QUOTE="Buffalo_Soulja"][QUOTE="joezer3003"]How did God come from nothing? Answer me that.
BOOYAKUSHA!
TSCombo
God must have created Time, therefore at the commencement of Time God had existed... thus God always existed.
That's supposing that God exists.
Yo hombre, Time cannot be created by an entity, it exists because all other dimensions exist.
If you beleive in God I'm sure it's not very hard a stretch to believe Time was created.
That's a statement that many people don't understand. If you don't believe in God, good for you, but if you want to have a discussion about God then you can't create the idea of God then limit him.It's like saying that a bird can't exist because it wouldn't be able to fly :? That's what the concept of a bird does
Omnipotence and breaking the laws of physics is something different than biological distinctiveness.Please Log In to post.
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