Typical. New they'd do it. Not that I care because I don't have it but even though they made billions in profit they're still feeding off of people who will undoubtedly feel compelled to waste cash on this. Greedy bastards.

The line on the palm rests will interfere with the natural positioning of the hand and goes across the base of the thumb.

I can see this controller being less smaller hand friendly.

@Gamerhomer Doesn't matter, it wouldn't take long to get used to to be honest and rumble serves to just reduce the battery quicker. Keyboards and Mice don't rumble yet PC gamers don't care.

I have an underlying fear that this will dilute the PC Steam experience and ultimately cause havoc among Keyboard + Mouse users vs Steam Controller users in certain games.

This may be a good idea for the living room, but for actual PC users with Keyboard and Mouse, I don't see how the two can mix when playing the same game.

I agree, instead of branching off away from their PC base and trying to lure in console-lovers for extra cash, they should be making new games. What new shit have Valve made in the past few years? Bugger all.

I said this a few days back and I'll say it again. Valve are getting greedy and they're turning into the new EA, or Apple. Starting to wish I didn't invest so much in Steam over the last year or 2. Might go back to ye old disc based games.

@Gamerno6666 If only it was about the gameplay and not the graphics then next gen consoles would be good, but sadly draining the FPS in favour of graphics will ultimately result in a premature downfall.

@NeoBillbine @PC-RUL3S No I think people were expecting better games, but naturally a huge wave of naive people thought it was going to be a much more powerful system. 30fps already is laughable.

@DarkSaber2k @UKFX I know that, but it doesn't matter still and when GFWL finally leaves (YAY) then I will unlock the frame rate.

@DarkSaber2k @UKFX Because it wasn't needed. At 30fps it was fine with a controller but that didn't stop me using DSFix and running SSAO, AA and AF. I didn't unlock the FPS because there is chance that MS will detect this as cheating as lock my account. Not that I play Xbox these days anyway but I'd rather that not happen.

Edit: I also changed it so Dark Souls rendered at 1080p and with all the eye candy turned on, playing with the F510 on PC, looked and played brilliantly.