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#1 EntropyWins
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Master_Live"] This. Master_Live

What if that way turned out to be the extinction of the human race? Or gruesome wars with millions dead just to preserve a shitty, unfair and stagnant order?

 

Then that happens. Nobody said it would be pretty.

So your solution is to do nothing in the name of letting nature take its course and kill off all humans? I don't see why we shouldn't even attempt to preserve our existence if at all possible.
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#2 EntropyWins
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There's no reason why an interventionist capitalist system is going to be any worse at handling overpopulation issues as compared to any other kind of economy.

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It would seem to me that our current system promotes uninhibited consumption of resources at an increasingly dangerous pace. Now I'm not advocating for any particular economic system to replace the current one, but it would seem that at the very least something should be tweaked to account for the realities of the world we live in that are not accounted for by economic theory, except as passing references to externalities.
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#3 EntropyWins
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Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

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I don't disagree with any of your initial statements. But I don't understand why you think limited resources and overpopulation issues are BS?

What do you think wars are fought over? Maybe limited resources? Food is one of many resources that are currently being wasted at an alarming rate by a percentage of our planet. A troubling trend for me though is that instead of us learning to consume less, we are teaching the rest of the world how awesome it is to consume and waste more.

The wealth disparity only exacerbates the issue.Honestly, I don't think most people mind that there are super wealthy people as long as we still are living decent lives, but if resources become more scarce and prices go up the rest of us will suffer while the wealthy still enjoy their gluttonous lifestyles then conflict is inevitable also.

So I guess I would like you to explain what you mean when you refer to those issues as BS.

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I just look around the world and it seems like the population keeps growing, natural resourses are being depleted, and we havea majority of politicians that think that the short term benefits of unsustainable economic growth are more important than the long term ramifications of protecting our planet. They say we should wait until big business thinks it is financially worth it to try and create a sustainable system to preserve our species and planet.

Are we stuck in a "progress trap" where our efficient and mass consumption will be our own undoing?

 

I'd like to be an optimist, but it seems more and more that this is a problem intertwined into the human condition that will ultimately be our end.  Are there any thoughts on soutions to this problem? Is there any hope? Should there be some type of population control? Will we ever be able to live within the limits that a sustainable world demands?

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#5 EntropyWins
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Sick fvck.

But what exactly is wrong with being against abortion? I mean sure many of the protestors get way too worked up but there's nothing wrong with not supporting it.

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"not supporting" abortion is different than trying to force people to abide by your moral opinions on a complex issue through legal means, which is what most anti abortion people do.
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#6 EntropyWins
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So are they going to be selling 720s exclusively at RentACenter and Aarons now? It will be a big hit with the folks who like to vastly overpay for things for the convenience of a cheap initial payment.

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#7 EntropyWins
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EA thinks that if you hate EA it must be because you are a homophobe.

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#8 EntropyWins
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I don't think overt racism exists on a widespread level anymore. I do think that black people as a group got stuck on the bottom end of a power structure that does a very good job of maintaining the status quo of society. I do think it is true that they were originally put their because of their skin color, but until there is a serious shift in the power structure of this country nothing will change for them and the rest of those regardless of skin color stuck in their abysmal situation. The cycle of despair will continue on.

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#9 EntropyWins
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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

A progressive liberal in New York pushed through draconian gun control in a Republican controlled senate. A president is proposing using executive powers to push through gun control, and he's also a progressive liberal. I see no upside.

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You could always move to Texas if you don't like it. We won't miss you.

At least the government wouldn't tell him what size drinks he can buy.

I don't think he lives in New York City the only place in NY to my knowledge where that rule exists. And if anyone wants to change that law they have the ability to vote for someone else. I wonder, however, if you are as passionate about gov't telling people what to do when it comes to a woman's right to her own body if she decides not to carry a pregnancy to term.
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#10 EntropyWins
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A progressive liberal in New York pushed through draconian gun control in a Republican controlled senate. A president is proposing using executive powers to push through gun control, and he's also a progressive liberal. I see no upside.

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You could always move to Texas if you don't like it. We won't miss you.