XBOX ONE looks like the better made console. Better build quality.

OP is 100% correct. The Xbox One is far superior to the PoS4 and the Xbox One has better games as well.

 

BlackShirt20

Poor lem... there is a long road of suffering ahead of you...

PS4 design looks lame. Looks like it was squashed or flatten by the Xbox One.

cows still thinking they have the better build?  lol ok good luck

XBOX GPU

Internet

CLOUD

 

 

XBOX GPU

 

 

 

Internet

 

 

CLOUD

 

 

 

AMD655

Just curious, do you have to use internet explorer with the Xbox? And you don't need to remind me, I know the browser in the PS3 sucks. I hope with the next gen we can all use the browser of our choice, but I'm not holding my breath. Plus I have only probably browsed the web on a console a few times so I guess for it really doesn't matter, but still curious.

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

The PS4 looks better,doesn't look like a damn 80's VHS,and has a power supply build in,not a damn uggly power brick.

xboxiphoneps3

No they look basically the same, only fanboys would argue otherwise. You can of course prefer the PS4's look, but don't try to act like it's dramatically different, or that it is some kind of artistic piece of hardware. The PS4s only real difference from the XBone is that it's tilted back, but it's the same ugly boxy console, only smaller.

Both consoles are butt ugly. Both have the same boxy look, and both have the same stupid matte / shiny combo. Both look like they were designed 30 years ago, not in 2012/13. If the XBone is an 80's VCR then the PS4 is an 80's CD player.   

Yeah it's rather stupid that the Xbone is going to have a power brick again. Especially considering it doesn't seem like it would be too hard to put a PSU inside of that oversized case. Still doesn't change the fact that both consoles are still boxy and and look like they were designed in the 80s. 

Really we are talking this

Versus this

:?

I prefer the 80's look, sharp and strong looking.

The butthurt is strong with the cows today!

Honestly? The one looks like a VCR player without any personality. It's just black and silver, evoking a heavy industrial feel. Thats okay if i'm looking for a professionally functional product, but this is for my personal entertainment center.

I want something that has a bit more personality than that, that can compliment me more. The slanted look provides a better look from multiple angles, and the blue light compliments the console with a stylish light strip that lets you know its functioning. And because it's for my personal use in my personal space, i'd prefer something a little smaller that takes up less space. As someone who has more space than others, it isn't such a big deal. But for the majority who may or may not, a smaller piece of equipment is just more considerate.

Shensolidus

yes, we all know microsoft make good hardware

Because PS3 also never had this happen either...

Bro went through 3 of them, he has my other PC now.

Because PS3 also never had this happen either...

 

 

Bro went through 3 of them, he has my other PC now.

AMD655

cows still thinking they have the better build?  lol ok good luck

XBOunity

The XBox One definitely has a better cooler for the APU than the PS4...superclocked

The Xbox One is just better built, period! There's no denying it.

We made one sucking console. Xbox One is the One console that sucks.

my pc is better built.

[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One definitely has a better cooler for the APU than the PS4...Baurus_1

The Xbox One is just better built, period! There's no denying it.

bigger case, its pretty hard to think otherwise.   

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One definitely has a better cooler for the APU than the PS4...XBOunity

The Xbox One is just better built, period! There's no denying it.

bigger case, its pretty hard to think otherwise.   

PS4 looks 100x better, Xbox One looks to have cheap plastic material

Also that blue light on the PS4 looks sexy

Davekeeh

You've never seen the inside of a console, have you? Open up any console and what you'll fine on the inside is...crap. The cheapest of the cheapest possible hardware. Did you mean that you think the cheap plastic on the new xbox looks nicer than the cheap plastic of the ps4?demi0227_basic

Well what do you think they should be? Do you think they should have $2000 worth of hardware and sell for $400? They are made to give the masses a good gaming experience for an affordable price, which looks like the XBO and the PS4 has pulled off. Personally I like the PS4 and think it is more then adequate for the task at hand. Plus the hardware in all consoles are nowhere near the cheapest of the cheapest hardware possible, also I would like to know what do you think the difference is between cheap plastic and expensive plastic? I'm quessing for some reason you think all PC's only have the rarest most exotic hand picked plastic ever available to man kind?                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                 

"Xbox"

"build quality"

:lol:

The 360 was one of the most unreliable consoles ever made. Scratched my disks for no reason, RROD, almost everyone I know that had a launch 360 had RROD.

[QUOTE="demi0227_basic"]You've never seen the inside of a console, have you? Open up any console and what you'll fine on the inside is...crap. The cheapest of the cheapest possible hardware. Did you mean that you think the cheap plastic on the new xbox looks nicer than the cheap plastic of the ps4?Ne-Plus-Ultra

Well what do you think they should be? Do you think they should have $2000 worth of hardware and sell for $400? They are made to give the masses a good gaming experience for an affordable price, which looks like the XBO and the PS4 has pulled off. Personally I like the PS4 and think it is more then adequate for the task at hand. Plus the hardware in all consoles are nowhere near the cheapest of the cheapest hardware possible, also I would like to know what do you think the difference is between cheap plastic and expensive plastic? I'm quessing for some reason you think all PC's only have the rarest most exotic hand picked plastic ever available to man kind?                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                 

For the most part, more exotic cases cost a bomb, i should know, i own a Silverstone Raven RVo2-BW, price for this chassis:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163213&Tpk=raven%20rvo2b&IsVirtualParent=1

[QUOTE="Ne-Plus-Ultra"]

[QUOTE="demi0227_basic"]You've never seen the inside of a console, have you? Open up any console and what you'll fine on the inside is...crap. The cheapest of the cheapest possible hardware. Did you mean that you think the cheap plastic on the new xbox looks nicer than the cheap plastic of the ps4?AMD655

Well what do you think they should be? Do you think they should have $2000 worth of hardware and sell for $400? They are made to give the masses a good gaming experience for an affordable price, which looks like the XBO and the PS4 has pulled off. Personally I like the PS4 and think it is more then adequate for the task at hand. Plus the hardware in all consoles are nowhere near the cheapest of the cheapest hardware possible, also I would like to know what do you think the difference is between cheap plastic and expensive plastic? I'm quessing for some reason you think all PC's only have the rarest most exotic hand picked plastic ever available to man kind?                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                 

For the most part, more exotic cases cost a bomb, i should know, i own a Silverstone Raven RVo2-BW, price for this chassis:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163213&Tpk=raven%20rvo2b&IsVirtualParent=1

Exactly my point, the outer case is plastic.

In my humble opinion, the PS4 has the better style, but i also like the box look of XBOX 1, just my opinion of course :)

In my humble opinion, the PS4 has the better style, but i also like the box look of XBOX 1, just my opinion of course :)

AMD655

I agree, they both look just fine, but all that really matters is that they get the job done.

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

The Xbox One is just better built, period! There's no denying it.

hoosier7

bigger case, its pretty hard to think otherwise.   

bigger cases = better cooling. There is a reason hermits use giant full size tower cases instead of small HTPC cases... and why high end after market cpu coolers are massive in comparison to the stock cooling.

that said bigger case = better cooling isnt a given, as the engineering of heat management plays a role. But the xbox one does seem to house a pretty monstrous fan and i would be surprised if the PS4 had better cooling.

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

bigger case, its pretty hard to think otherwise.   

BeardMaster

bigger cases = better cooling. There is a reason hermits use giant full size tower cases instead of small HTPC cases... and why high end after market cpu coolers are massive in comparison to the stock cooling.

that said bigger case = better cooling isnt a given, as the engineering of heat management plays a role. But the xbox one does seem to house a pretty monstrous fan and i would be surprised if the PS4 had better cooling.

PS4 has internal PSU, it would only be possible with a good cooling system.

Its basically, large slow vertical fan (X1) VS small fast multiple horizontal fans (PS4)

When it comes to hardware, i trust Sony more, they have been manufacturing high quality and mid quality hardware for much longer than MS.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="hoosier7"] Bigger case = more reliable? Wish that was true because i'd just put my gaming PC in a giant cardboard box...ManatuBeard

bigger cases = better cooling. There is a reason hermits use giant full size tower cases instead of small HTPC cases... and why high end after market cpu coolers are massive in comparison to the stock cooling.

that said bigger case = better cooling isnt a given, as the engineering of heat management plays a role. But the xbox one does seem to house a pretty monstrous fan and i would be surprised if the PS4 had better cooling.

PS4 has internal PSU, it would only be possible with a good cooling system.

Its basically, large slow vertical fan (X1) VS small fast multiple horizontal fans (PS4)

When it comes to hardware, i trust Sony more, they have been manufacturing high quality and mid quality hardware for much longer than MS.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="hoosier7"] Bigger case = more reliable? Wish that was true because i'd just put my gaming PC in a giant cardboard box...ManatuBeard

bigger cases = better cooling. There is a reason hermits use giant full size tower cases instead of small HTPC cases... and why high end after market cpu coolers are massive in comparison to the stock cooling.

that said bigger case = better cooling isnt a given, as the engineering of heat management plays a role. But the xbox one does seem to house a pretty monstrous fan and i would be surprised if the PS4 had better cooling.

PS4 has internal PSU, it would only be possible with a good cooling system.

Its basically, large slow vertical fan (X1) VS small fast multiple horizontal fans (PS4)

When it comes to hardware, i trust Sony more, they have been manufacturing high quality and mid quality hardware for much longer than MS.

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

bigger cases = better cooling. There is a reason hermits use giant full size tower cases instead of small HTPC cases... and why high end after market cpu coolers are massive in comparison to the stock cooling.

 

that said bigger case = better cooling isnt a given, as the engineering of heat management plays a role. But the xbox one does seem to house a pretty monstrous fan and i would be surprised if the PS4 had better cooling.

superclocked

PS4 has internal PSU, it would only be possible with a good cooling system.

Its basically, large slow vertical fan (X1) VS small fast multiple horizontal fans (PS4)

When it comes to hardware, i trust Sony more, they have been manufacturing high quality and mid quality hardware for much longer than MS.

PS4 reminds me a bit of the PS2. Aesthetics-wise of course.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

PS4 has internal PSU, it would only be possible with a good cooling system.

Its basically, large slow vertical fan (X1) VS small fast multiple horizontal fans (PS4)

When it comes to hardware, i trust Sony more, they have been manufacturing high quality and mid quality hardware for much longer than MS.

hoosier7

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Sony has a high rate of hardware problems. Their high definition LCD's have always had issues, and games are barely playable on the new Playstation3 Super Slim console... Also, the Playstation consoles use laptop type coolers.. The XBox One uses a large desktop type cooler... superclocked

I dont think that glueing a desk fan to a dissipator is really a high tech solution... but since that eSRAM will heat nearly to meltdown point, might have been the only solution they found... (which forced them to have an external power brick).

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

The PS4 looks better,doesn't look like a damn 80's VHS,and has a power supply build in,not a damn uggly power brick.

xboxiphoneps3

No they look basically the same, only fanboys would argue otherwise. You can of course prefer the PS4's look, but don't try to act like it's dramatically different, or that it is some kind of artistic piece of hardware. The PS4s only real difference from the XBone is that it's tilted back, but it's the same ugly boxy console, only smaller.

Both consoles are butt ugly. Both have the same boxy look, and both have the same stupid matte / shiny combo. Both look like they were designed 30 years ago, not in 2012/13. If the XBone is an 80's VCR then the PS4 is an 80's CD player.   

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="hoosier7"] I think you need to look up the phrase high rate. When it's come to hardware this gen, you can't argue Sony's been a lot better.ManatuBeard

I dont think that glueing a desk fan to a dissipator is really a high tech solution... but since that eSRAM will heat nearly to meltdown point, might have been the only solution they found... (which forced them to have an external power brick).

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looksmore stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

nice to know youve seen the ps4** upclose, used it, felt the material , etc. go blog it. 

First off this is what you said.

You've never seen the inside of a console, have you? Open up any console and what you'll fine on the inside is...crap. The cheapest of the cheapest possible hardware. Did you mean that you think the cheap plastic on the new xbox looks nicer than the cheap plastic of the ps4?demi0227_basic

Well what do you think they should be? Do you think they should have $2000 worth of hardware and sell for $400? They are made to give the masses a good gaming experience for an affordable price, which looks like the XBO and the PS4 has pulled off. Personally I like the PS4 and think it is more then adequate for the task at hand. Plus the hardware in all consoles are nowhere near the cheapest of the cheapest hardware possible, also I would like to know what do you think the difference is between cheap plastic and expensive plastic? I'm guessing for some reason you think all PC's only have the rarest most exotic hand picked plastic ever available to man kind?

Then you replyed with this.

To the replier of my post, you are a moron. My point is that BOTH consoles will not have high quality components. Now, when you decide to your'self that quality=specs, that's what makes you are moron. Let me give you an example...let's use PSUs. Here are 2 1200w psus... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152045 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139039 Odds are you won't bother to look at both items, but I can tell you the biggest difference. Quality. Quality wiring, quality capacitors, quality etc. PCBs can be of lesser or greater quality depending on thickness, materials used, etc. So, see? Quality does NOT equal differing components (650 vs Titan) but rather the QUALITY of the individual pieces making up that particular component. Do I think a console should have 2k worth of equipment in it? Well, I won't address that as its such a stupid question, as shown just barely (you don't understand the difference between build quality and differing components, but hopefully you do now). So, AGAIN, the BUILD QUALITY OF ALL CONSOLES WILL ALWAYS BE VERY LOW END. As in, CHEAPLY BUILT. Sure...perhaps they should be. That doesn't change the fact they are CHEAPLY BUILT AND USE LOW QUALITY COMPONENTS. As far as plastics go, YES, there are INDEED DIFFERENT PLASTICS. Some are more durable, some more attractive. I know...it's crazy there are more than one type of plastic, and hate to blow your' mind on that one, but I want you to learn. Now you know...there are some plastics that are better than others. As far as your' last question, why would I think all pc's have the best plastic ever? That's RETARDED and shows you may have a disability. Perhaps I should take it easy on you. Another lesson...PC'S HAVE DIFFERENT CASES. I know...crazy again, but there you go. Also, many pc's use METALS for their casing. I have a Fortress 2 case, and a Cosmos 2. The Fortress is aluminum and steel, the Cosmos a mix of steel, aluminum, and plastic. There you are with an example of how there are different computer cases. I hope you learned something from this reply, and good luck to you.demi0227_basic

First off, do you even have the faintest idea what you are replying to? You stated that consoles have the cheapest of the cheapest hardware and well they don't, but now you changed that in your reply to low end which is different then the cheapest of the cheapest, then you want to compare two 1200w PSU's to a consoles 360w PSU and you're calling me the moron. If you really want to look at the quality of the components then since it is all custom made you would first have to look at it piece by piece, now I really don't want to spend hours looking through my Digi-Key and Mouser catalogs just to school you so I'm just going to give you one example on how it is not the cheapest of the cheapest. Right now I am looking at a motherboard from a 2007 60 GB PS3 and one of the components is a capacitor like this http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/EEE-FK1C151XP/PCE3784CT-ND/766160 now Sony could of used a cheaper capacitor like this http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/UPW1C151MED/493-1781-ND/589522 even though they would of worked just as well, this completely ruins your cheapest of the cheapest theory. Now you're right there are different types of plastic, I should know because I have some plastic molding machines in my machine shop and the same type of plastic is used for the vast majority of consoles and PC's so I don't know why you think that consoles use "cheap" plastic (maybe because you're obviously a moron.) Now obviously I was being condescending to a degree and lightly joking when I made the assumption that you thought all PC's were made out of some exotic plastic but I guess you really think that PC plastic is better since you think console plastic is "cheap" and once again you are calling me the moron, then you bring up aluminum and steel, once again comparing apples to oranges, I guess you have to do something to try to make yourself feel superior. Don't feel bad though it'll be alright, just chug a couple Mountain Dew's have some beef jerky and some candy bars then look over at that picture of your pretend hot wife and go do some more dreaming on Newegg then get back to WOW and let your mommy do the real thinking. By the way, before you go on a pointless rant you should realize that many of the gamers on here aren't fifteen year old immature fanboys and many of them are professionals that have had many many years of experience in their fields, I would mention my past but since this is a forum it would just come off as BS anyways. I'm just pointing this out because you obviously have insecurities and need to inflate your ego to make yourself feel better, so in the future you should make statements that can be easily argued, this way you can keep your confidence up without getting angry and going on pointless rants with misspelled words, all caps sentences and name calling (which is a sign of frustration and insecurity) while trying to defend a stupid post you made, plus it would also help if you tried to get a better grasp on the English language and work on your reading comprehension, just saying, I hope you get some help.

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

bigger cases = better cooling. There is a reason hermits use giant full size tower cases instead of small HTPC cases... and why high end after market cpu coolers are massive in comparison to the stock cooling.

 

that said bigger case = better cooling isnt a given, as the engineering of heat management plays a role. But the xbox one does seem to house a pretty monstrous fan and i would be surprised if the PS4 had better cooling.

superclocked

PS4 has internal PSU, it would only be possible with a good cooling system.

Its basically, large slow vertical fan (X1) VS small fast multiple horizontal fans (PS4)

When it comes to hardware, i trust Sony more, they have been manufacturing high quality and mid quality hardware for much longer than MS.

Lastly, it wasn't my first choice but by some miracle I now own a old  40" Sony flat screen LCD and my god, it looks better then allot of LED TV's and I should know, I sold them for years in a store that made me learn every little bit about them. Say what you want about Sony, they know how to make good long lasting hardware that is dependable. Unlike my 6th xbox that broke the day after I bought it, ya know this one

I have to say at least Microsoft replaced at least 2 of them in general which took weeks to send through the mail.

Lastly, Sony's fan is like that because it doesn't attract dust on the hardware pieces themselves, its much easier to clean a PS3 then an Xbox 360. Their heat sink also isn't that bad in terms of cooling as I hardly feel any heat drawn from my PS3 unlike my 360 which randomly shuts down if I don't have my air conditioner on. Also before you give me a rude comment, I have built more PC's then you could possibly imagine, don't think you can lecture me on heat sinks.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

PS4 has internal PSU, it would only be possible with a good cooling system.

Its basically, large slow vertical fan (X1) VS small fast multiple horizontal fans (PS4)

When it comes to hardware, i trust Sony more, they have been manufacturing high quality and mid quality hardware for much longer than MS.

TrooperManaic

Lastly, it wasn't my first choice but by some miracle I now own a old  40" Sony flat screen LCD and my god, it looks better then allot of LED TV's and I should know, I sold them for years in a store that made me learn every little bit about them. Say what you want about Sony, they know how to make good long lasting hardware that is dependable. Unlike my 6th xbox that broke the day after I bought it, ya know this one

I have to say at least Microsoft replaced at least 2 of them in general which took weeks to send through the mail.

Lastly, Sony's fan is like that because it doesn't attract dust on the hardware pieces themselves, its much easier to clean a PS3 then an Xbox 360. Their heat sink also isn't that bad in terms of cooling as I hardly feel any heat drawn from my PS3 unlike my 360 which randomly shuts down if I don't have my air conditioner on. Also before you give me a rude comment, I have built more PC's then you could possibly imagine, don't think you can lecture me on heat sinks.

I disagree. I don't know how you can tell by just looking at it.

[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Sony has a high rate of hardware problems. Their high definition LCD's have always had issues, and games are barely playable on the new Playstation3 Super Slim console... Also, the Playstation consoles use laptop type coolers..XBox One uses a large desktop type cooler... superclocked

Lastly, it wasn't my first choice but by some miracle I now own a old  40" Sony flat screen LCD and my god, it looks better then allot of LED TV's and I should know, I sold them for years in a store that made me learn every little bit about them. Say what you want about Sony, they know how to make good long lasting hardware that is dependable. Unlike my 6th xbox that broke the day after I bought it, ya know this one

I have to say at least Microsoft replaced at least 2 of them in general which took weeks to send through the mail.

Lastly, Sony's fan is like that because it doesn't attract dust on the hardware pieces themselves, its much easier to clean a PS3 then an Xbox 360. Their heat sink also isn't that bad in terms of cooling as I hardly feel any heat drawn from my PS3 unlike my 360 which randomly shuts down if I don't have my air conditioner on. Also before you give me a rude comment, I have built more PC's then you could possibly imagine, don't think you can lecture me on heat sinks.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] Whoa, Sony has a high rate of hardware problems? I have owned two PS3s, Both of which still work flawlessly. Maybe you mistaked it for the RROD360, also you obviously don't own a PS3 super slim. I can game on it all day in the summer heat and there is absolutely no problems. You obviously are getting paid to say this.

 

Lastly, it wasn't my first choice but by some miracle I now own a old  40" Sony flat screen LCD and my god, it looks better then allot of LED TV's and I should know, I sold them for years in a store that made me learn every little bit about them. Say what you want about Sony, they know how to make good long lasting hardware that is dependable. Unlike my 6th xbox that broke the day after I bought it, ya know this one

I have to say at least Microsoft replaced at least 2 of them in general which took weeks to send through the mail.

Lastly, Sony's fan is like that because it doesn't attract dust on the hardware pieces themselves, its much easier to clean a PS3 then an Xbox 360. Their heat sink also isn't that bad in terms of cooling as I hardly feel any heat drawn from my PS3 unlike my 360 which randomly shuts down if I don't have my air conditioner on. Also before you give me a rude comment, I have built more PC's then you could possibly imagine, don't think you can lecture me on heat sinks.

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