XBOX ONE looks like the better made console. Better build quality.

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Better privacy spying it also seems thanks to microsoft.

Skype, which was bought by Microsoft in October 2011, worked with intelligence agencies last year to allow Prism to collect video of conversations as well as audio. Material collected through Prism is routinely shared with the FBI and CIA, with one NSA document describing the program as a "team sport"."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data

build quality? seen inside? i wouldn't be shocked if the consoles sony/MS showed of was just the casingk2theswiss

You can see the inside of the Xbox One online man http://www.redgamingtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/xbox-one-inside-the-console.jpg

I posted before explaining why I personally prefer the Xbox design, I just think it will prove to be quieter and cooler.

Nice blog post. 

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

Baurus_1

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

Baurus_1

Xbox One looks like one of the shittiest hardware designs I ever seen in a custom built device. So much wasted space. You can tell it was a rush job.

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

Baurus_1

Dude, what are you talking about? This sounds to me like you are just desperate to justify the higher price, told yourself it must be because of better build quality, then continued working backwards from there.

Just because the X1 looks like a brick, doesn't mean it is built like one.

If anyone thinks that the Xbox One or the PS4 are nice looking consoles I really think they need to go to Specsavers!Duckyindiana

People have been calling consoles they don't like "ugly" since the PS1 days. I've never found any console ugly with the exception of the original Xbox and that was just because I found the design to be uninteresting, not because it was literally ugly to look at.

This is the first gen where I looked at the consoles and though, "Really? That's what you came up with?" PS4 and X1 both seem pretty ugly to me.

[QUOTE="ojugyujxsygrh"][QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

The Xbox One will have better cooling, or i'd assume so. The PS4 uses all parts that run hotter than the One, yet it is smaller and slimmer, not allowing for a fan like this:

http://www.redgamingtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/xbox-one-inside-the-console.jpg

thats one big fan and heatsink, gigantic in fact. The one will have no heat issues, it seems that was their main concern for design.

Crypt_mx

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see which approach is better. How efficient will the PS4 be? Have you seen the inside? Do you know what the core temps and noise are going to be like? No, so until then we have no idea what approach they are taking. All im saying is the Xbox is designed like I would design a PC im building. Lots of room for air to move around, and a large cooler to spit the air out. Sony has hotter parts that are all closer together and will be cooled by multiple small fans(or im assuming so because there isnt much room). That isnt to say the PS4 will red ring you, but ill bet money that it is louder and hotter than the "silent" (thats what ms said) and cooler running Xbox One. This is assumption and opinion, I would design a console more like the One.

They're both pretty fricken ugly for consoles designed in the 2012/13 time frame.

Oh by the way...lol at the Sony fanboys trying to act like the PS4 is somehow an artistically designed console. It looks the same, but tilted a little, and a bit smaller...otherwise they look basically the same. Both boxy, both two tone matte, and shiny, and most importantly both fugly.

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]build quality? seen inside? i wouldn't be shocked if the consoles sony/MS showed of was just the casingCrypt_mx

You can see the inside of the Xbox One online man http://www.redgamingtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/xbox-one-inside-the-console.jpg

I posted before explaining why I personally prefer the Xbox design, I just think it will prove to be quieter and cooler.

Something is running hot in there,to have that huge ass fan,is even bigger than the Blu-ray drive.

They're both pretty fricken ugly for consoles designed in the 2012/13 time frame.

Oh by the way...lol at the Sony fanboys trying to act like the PS4 is somehow an artistically designed console. It looks the same, but tilted a little, and a bit smaller...otherwise they look basically the same. Both boxy, both two tone matte, and shiny, and most importantly both fugly.

coasterguy65

The PS4 looks better,doesn't look like a damn 80's VHS,and has a power supply build in,not a damn uggly power brick.

They're both pretty fricken ugly for consoles designed in the 2012/13 time frame.

Oh by the way...lol at the Sony fanboys trying to act like the PS4 is somehow an artistically designed console. It looks the same, but tilted a little, and a bit smaller...otherwise they look basically the same. Both boxy, both two tone matte, and shiny, and most importantly both fugly.

coasterguy65

Looks like two random parts put together, ugly as hell
And that pizza grill on the top looks stupid

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

[QUOTE="ojugyujxsygrh"] Just because the ps4 is smaller doesnt mean it will have poor cooling though. It is pretty apparent that sony is doing the "Efficiency" approach. MS is doing the "Big fan and lots o' space" approach.stereointegrity

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see which approach is better. How efficient will the PS4 be? Have you seen the inside? Do you know what the core temps and noise are going to be like? No, so until then we have no idea what approach they are taking. All im saying is the Xbox is designed like I would design a PC im building. Lots of room for air to move around, and a large cooler to spit the air out. Sony has hotter parts that are all closer together and will be cooled by multiple small fans(or im assuming so because there isnt much room). That isnt to say the PS4 will red ring you, but ill bet money that it is louder and hotter than the "silent" (thats what ms said) and cooler running Xbox One. This is assumption and opinion, I would design a console more like the One.

Source for where gddr5 runs cooler?

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see which approach is better. How efficient will the PS4 be? Have you seen the inside? Do you know what the core temps and noise are going to be like? No, so until then we have no idea what approach they are taking. All im saying is the Xbox is designed like I would design a PC im building. Lots of room for air to move around, and a large cooler to spit the air out. Sony has hotter parts that are all closer together and will be cooled by multiple small fans(or im assuming so because there isnt much room). That isnt to say the PS4 will red ring you, but ill bet money that it is louder and hotter than the "silent" (thats what ms said) and cooler running Xbox One. This is assumption and opinion, I would design a console more like the One.

Crypt_mx

Source for where gddr5 runs cooler?

GDDR5 actually does run cooler, it is lower voltage memory, just like DDR3 vs DDR2.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see which approach is better. How efficient will the PS4 be? Have you seen the inside? Do you know what the core temps and noise are going to be like? No, so until then we have no idea what approach they are taking. All im saying is the Xbox is designed like I would design a PC im building. Lots of room for air to move around, and a large cooler to spit the air out. Sony has hotter parts that are all closer together and will be cooled by multiple small fans(or im assuming so because there isnt much room). That isnt to say the PS4 will red ring you, but ill bet money that it is louder and hotter than the "silent" (thats what ms said) and cooler running Xbox One. This is assumption and opinion, I would design a console more like the One.

Crypt_mx

Source for where gddr5 runs cooler?

Let's throw a burger and some hot dogs up on that thing!

XBOX ONE Accessory kit!

just like that 360 quality eh.

 

Let's throw a burger and some hot dogs up on that thing!

 

 

XBOX ONE Accessory kit!

 

Netherscourge

Putting the grill on the top is a bad idea... people will place their game boxes on there and choke off the heat vents...

I hope that's just a design grill and not an actual vent - otherwise, it'll get HOT.

Not to mention general laws of gravity and dust...

Microsoft can't be that stupid. Not again (cough RROD cough)

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

Baurus_1

i agree, im loving the heatsink and huge 120 mm fan, i dont think we will have overheating this gen for sure from microsoft, looks like they learned there lesson, and i love the look of it, love the glowing xbox light

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

Gaming-Planet

i want the futuristic Kinect

I don't care about what looks more durable, I only care about which name comes first in the alphabet. P comes before X, FACT.

Teufelhuhn

i completely agree, the ps4 seems like a cheap block of plastic in terms of both exterior design and power specs. i don't think sony is taking their fans very seriously at all. :(

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

I don't care about what looks more durable, I only care about which name comes first in the alphabet. P comes before X, FACT.

Midnightshade29

 

Let's throw a burger and some hot dogs up on that thing!

 

 

XBOX ONE Accessory kit!

 

Netherscourge

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

 

Let's throw a burger and some hot dogs up on that thing!

 

 

XBOX ONE Accessory kit!

 

CJ_ofCamelot

So didn't the PS3 look like a grill! :lol: Second there is now power brick, like the PS4 the Xbox One has built-in power supply. 

So didn't the PS3 look like a grill! :lol: Second there is now power brick, like the PS4 the Xbox One has built-in power supply. 

xhawk27

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

So didn't the PS3 look like a grill! :lol: Second there is now power brick, like the PS4 the Xbox One has built-in power supply. 

Shensolidus

You got proof of that? I heard it's built-in like on the PS4. I find it hard to believe that the big case the Xbox one has to use a power brick but the tiny PS4 case doesn't. :?

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

So didn't the PS3 look like a grill! :lol: Second there is now power brick, like the PS4 the Xbox One has built-in power supply. 

xhawk27

You got proof of that? I heard it's built-in like on the PS4. 

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"] Actually, the Xbox One still has a power brick.Shensolidus

You got proof of that? I heard it's built-in like on the PS4. 

A dev unit is not the final hardware. 

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

You got proof of that? I heard it's built-in like on the PS4. 

xhawk27

A dev unit is not the final hardware. 

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"] Well, i'm a developer who works with one for one. But if you need to see it, here it is: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i.imgur.com/dDGBpTj.png&imgrefurl=http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t%3D560781&h=513&w=983&sz=418&tbnid=WNp1W8wNConqBM:&tbnh=63&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__UlLPqlN-qEaiwLffvbxGUUbu9E4=&docid=FCAylkE4l_rxdM&sa=X&ei=Y5jfUeGYAqmriQKi4YDIAQ&ved=0CEcQ9QEwAg&dur=728Shensolidus

A dev unit is not the final hardware. 

I didn't click on the link until now. Hahaha that is your proof. That could be anything like maybe the housing for the power-supply. You got any real proof? My friend who knows somebody that works at MS has said that the final hardware that the power-supply is inside the console. If you want to lose a million dollars make the bet. 

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

A dev unit is not the final hardware. 

xhawk27

I didn't click on the link until now. Hahaha that is your proof. That could be anything like maybe the housing for the power-supply. You got any real proof? My friend who knows somebody that works at MS has said that the final hardware that the power-supply is inside the console. If you want to lose a million dollars make the bet. 

More X1 news here guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaY7VTftPdY

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

Baurus_1

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

They're both pretty fricken ugly for consoles designed in the 2012/13 time frame.

Oh by the way...lol at the Sony fanboys trying to act like the PS4 is somehow an artistically designed console. It looks the same, but tilted a little, and a bit smaller...otherwise they look basically the same. Both boxy, both two tone matte, and shiny, and most importantly both fugly.

tormentos

The PS4 looks better,doesn't look like a damn 80's VHS,and has a power supply build in,not a damn uggly power brick.

No they look basically the same, only fanboys would argue otherwise. You can of course prefer the PS4's look, but don't try to act like it's dramatically different, or that it is some kind of artistic piece of hardware. The PS4s only real difference from the XBone is that it's tilted back, but it's the same ugly boxy console, only smaller.

Both consoles are butt ugly. Both have the same boxy look, and both have the same stupid matte / shiny combo. Both look like they were designed 30 years ago, not in 2012/13. If the XBone is an 80's VCR then the PS4 is an 80's CD player.   

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

They're both pretty fricken ugly for consoles designed in the 2012/13 time frame.

Oh by the way...lol at the Sony fanboys trying to act like the PS4 is somehow an artistically designed console. It looks the same, but tilted a little, and a bit smaller...otherwise they look basically the same. Both boxy, both two tone matte, and shiny, and most importantly both fugly.

coasterguy65

The PS4 looks better,doesn't look like a damn 80's VHS,and has a power supply build in,not a damn uggly power brick.

No they look basically the same, only fanboys would argue otherwise. You can of course prefer the PS4's look, but don't try to act like it's dramatically different, or that it is some kind of artistic piece of hardware. The PS4s only real difference from the XBone is that it's tilted back, but it's the same ugly boxy console, only smaller.

Both consoles are butt ugly. Both have the same boxy look, and both have the same stupid matte / shiny combo. Both look like they were designed 30 years ago, not in 2012/13. If the XBone is an 80's VCR then the PS4 is an 80's CD player.   

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"] You really want to believe it doesn't have one don't you? You're talking to someone who works with it daily. Those "dev units" are exactly what the console looks like, and the internal die is the same. There is literally no difference between the consoles you see in those pictures and the ones you'll be buying in November. If you really believe it doesn't include it, i'd be willing to wager an easy million bucks. Easiest million I will have ever made.Shensolidus

I didn't click on the link until now. Hahaha that is your proof. That could be anything like maybe the housing for the power-supply. You got any real proof? My friend who knows somebody that works at MS has said that the final hardware that the power-supply is inside the console. If you want to lose a million dollars make the bet. 

Ok I made that part up about my friend knows somebody at MS. Still that could be an early protype or maybe that is for the Kinect. MS should be ashamed of themselves if Sony can put in the powersupply in the smaller case in the PS4 but in the huge case MS can't. Is the Power Brick smaller than on the 360 because from the picture it looks like it. Also I am not buying one at launch so I don't care and I am not betting. ;)

In the event of a nuclear war the Xbox does look like it will take the blast better.

That is not a good enough reason for a $100 price diffrence though.

OP is 100% correct. The Xbox One is far superior to the PoS4 and the Xbox One has better games as well.