Who was smarter about controller batteries?

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#1 Edited by MrXboxOne (742 posts) -

With Sony you have a $60controller with a rechargeable battery inside. The downside however, once that battery doesn't hold a charge after about a year you have to buy another $60 controller even though your controller that doesn't hold a charge still works perfectly fine, just needs to be plugged in all the time now. Cost after a year roughly $120

Or Microsoft who also offers a $60 controller that will take AA batteries or by a $25 play and charge kit. Once the rechargeable battery no longer holds a charge, you can buy a new rechargeable battery for $15. After one year total cost is roughly $100 or more if you just buy AA batteries.

#2 Posted by SuperCowElitist (730 posts) -

Lol. Lemmings defending AA batteries, they must be old school.

#3 Edited by FPSfan1985 (2008 posts) -

I've had a ps3 for 5 years now. Original controller still going strong. Try harder.

#4 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

consumer satisfaction - sony

business - microsoft

the lithium ion cell in a dual shock 3 or 4 should last for over a year, assuming the user followed good practices.

#5 Posted by MrXboxOne (742 posts) -

Your one of the lucky ones because I have had to buy 4 DS3 controllers and my DS4 only last around 5-6 hours.

#6 Posted by NFJSupreme (5010 posts) -

if only MS included the rechargeable battery pack with the base model. If they did that then I'd go with the MS solution. But they didn't so I'd just take my chances with the li-ion controller (assume they use li-ion batteries).

#7 Edited by kingtito (4713 posts) -

I've had a ps3 for 5 years now. Original controller still going strong. Try harder.

That doesn't mean everyones controllers will work that long. It really depends on how much you use your controller. All rechargeable batteries will die at some point. Don't act like your battery is the exception to the rule.

You get an option with the XOne controller, you don't get with the DS4. Options>>>>>>>>>>>no options

#8 Posted by foxhound_fox (86589 posts) -

MS for offering as many options as possible.

more options >>>always>>> less options

#9 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (750 posts) -

I game everyday and I have had my controller for years

#10 Posted by farrell2k (5029 posts) -

Microsoft has the right ides with replaceable batteries. It's too inconvenient to have to plug your controller in while playing. I thought that went out two generations ago.

#11 Posted by Krelian-co (9774 posts) -

Your one of the lucky ones because I have had to buy 4 DS3 controllers and my DS4 only last around 5-6 hours.

sure u did.

#12 Edited by foxhound_fox (86589 posts) -
@FPSfan1985 said:

I've had a ps3 for 5 years now. Original controller still going strong. Try harder.

That is well beyond the average lifespan of a Li-ion battery. They are designed to last between 2-3 years under average use. At about the third year, they begin to drastically lose the ability to retain a strong charge. It's one of the reasons why cellphone replacement occurs within this time range.

Your experiences =/= the norm

#13 Edited by Couth_ (9907 posts) -

Fuck Microsoft system.. Anyone who sport that is a presidential tier goon..last gen i bought a wired 360 controller to not deal with batteries plus it doubled for PC..this gen they are forcing the play and charge or individual batteries

That's not options thats milkage.. But that's why they call them lemmings..not brain can't think for themselves just follow blindly

#14 Posted by 23Jarek23 (2616 posts) -

PS3 batteries are pretty good and if you buy a whole new controller because it's lost it's charge then you are a fool when all you have to do is buy a new battery from ebay for under $10.

#15 Posted by FinalFighters (1302 posts) -

I've had a ps3 for 5 years now. Original controller still going strong. Try harder.

#16 Posted by Couth_ (9907 posts) -

@FPSfan1985 said:

I've had a ps3 for 5 years now. Original controller still going strong. Try harder.

That is

well

beyond the average lifespan of a Li-ion battery. They are designed to last between 2-3 years under average use. At about the third year, they begin to drastically lose the ability to retain a strong charge. It's one of the reasons why cellphone replacement occurs within this time range.

Your experiences =/= the norm

All lemming this stupid.brb dual shock replacement battery $5. IPhone replacement battery $8..xbone play n charge $25

#17 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

In an ideal world, I'd want the PS4 controller and the XBox One controller to have removable, recharchable battery packs.

#18 Posted by Chutebox (36050 posts) -

Had a controller done ps3 was released and it's stillfine Find some other way to teltroll

#19 Edited by Gue1 (8981 posts) -

I still have 2 controllers from 2006 with the charge lasting over 20 hours. But is not even hard to change the battery to begin with. What becomes a problem after a while with DS3's are the sticks because they suck up sweat and shit and then you either need to open it up to replace the entire stick, which you can buy for cheap at amazon (only 1 cent!), or buy the little caps but they are not as tight as the originals, so I prefer to buy the sticks.

http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-Joystick-PS2-PS3-Controller-THUMBSTICKS/dp/B002G9DE24/ref=sr_1_32?ie=UTF8&qid=1385523616&sr=8-32&keywords=dualshock+3+sticks

#20 Posted by foxhound_fox (86589 posts) -
@Couth_ said:

All lemming this stupid.brb dual shock replacement battery $5. IPhone replacement battery $8..xbone play n charge $25

That's great. How long does it take to disassemble a DS3? An iPhone? A lot longer than the 5 second swap of a couple of batteries or a battery pack.

Sony was really dumb not to just make it an external battery pack.

#21 Posted by metal_zombie (2284 posts) -

My sixaxis controller from launch worked for years it broke from wear and tear before the battery stopped charging.

#22 Edited by Gue1 (8981 posts) -

@foxhound_fox said:
@Couth_ said:

All lemming this stupid.brb dual shock replacement battery $5. IPhone replacement battery $8..xbone play n charge $25

That's great. How long does it take to disassemble a DS3? An iPhone? A lot longer than the 5 second swap of a couple of batteries or a battery pack.

Sony was really dumb not to just make it an external battery pack.

removing 5 (to be exact) screws to replace the battery on a Dualshock only takes like 2 minutes at most and it'll last you for years! You can't be this ignorant.... lol

#23 Edited by Zophar87 (4332 posts) -

With Sony you have a $60controller with a rechargeable battery inside. The downside however, once that battery doesn't hold a charge after about a year you have to buy another $60 controller even though your controller that doesn't hold a charge still works perfectly fine, just needs to be plugged in all the time now. Cost after a year roughly $120

Or Microsoft who also offers a $60 controller that will take AA batteries or by a $25 play and charge kit. Once the rechargeable battery no longer holds a charge, you can buy a new rechargeable battery for $15. After one year total cost is roughly $100 or more if you just buy AA batteries.

Uh. My Dualshock 3 battery is still going strong over three years later.

#24 Posted by jhcho2 (4366 posts) -

Your one of the lucky ones because I have had to buy 4 DS3 controllers and my DS4 only last around 5-6 hours.

Bullshit. If you wanna lie, please don't make it so obvious. Most people have Dualshocks which lasted the full 7 years. Those who didn't had theirs fail for reasons other than the batteries. Only a very very small minority probably had their batteries fail. You however, are claiming to hit a jackpot 4 times in a row.

#25 Edited by foxhound_fox (86589 posts) -
@Gue1 said:

removing 5 or 7 screws to replace the battery on a Dualshock only takes like 2 minutes at most and it'll last you for years! You can't be this ignorant.... lol

I'm talking about swapping batteries. With the DS3, you have to wait for the controller to charge before using it again (unless you are one of those people with a 15' USB-miniUSB cable). You can't just "swap" out the DS3 pack every time you want to keep playing and the batteries are dead.

It's a personal preference, and having the option of using batteries, rechargeable batteries or a rechargeable battery pack is better than only a pack. The only ignorant people here are those trying to justify less options being better.

#26 Edited by Krelian-co (9774 posts) -

lems, showing the world how stupid they are since 2002

#27 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (5651 posts) -

I have rechargeables for my X1, but I feel MS should have included a battery, and a charge cable. You would still get the so called options, some here seem to care about.

#28 Edited by gago-gago (9075 posts) -

Not sure how long my DS3 was dead but yup its dead. Can I open it up and buy a battery on ebay or something? Anyway, I just don't get the hate for MS having the options to use AA batteries, rechargeable batteries, and Play & Charge kit. Plus they have 3rd party chargers too.

#29 Edited by Couth_ (9907 posts) -

Willing to bet most lemming idiots INCLUDING @FOXHOUND_FOX buy play n charge just to = same convenience as dual shock internal battery LOL options= extra$ $85 controller smh

#30 Posted by Zidaneski (8432 posts) -

I still have SIXAXIS controllers from 2007 and DS3 controllers from 2009 that work. The analog sticks and triggers may not function like they should but I've never had a controller that needed a replacement battery. Last time a ever had something that took batteries is my CD player...

#31 Posted by foxhound_fox (86589 posts) -
@Couth_ said:

Willing to bet most lemming idiots INCLUDING @FOXHOUND_FOX buy play n charge just to = same convenience as dual shock internal battery LOL options= extra$ $85 controller smh

No need for insults. Personally, I use AA batteries with my 360 since I don't use it very often, and find the battery packs and rechargeables don't hold a charge long enough in between the times that I use it.

I just wish the DS3 battery lasted longer. My PS3 is mostly just a Netflix box now, and we have to switch controllers every couple weeks despite the controller being on for 10 minutes every couple hours.

Honestly, AA batteries give the best flexibility, offering both replaceable and rechargeable.

#32 Posted by Couth_ (9907 posts) -

@foxhound_fox: if you are one of the rare people who prefer AA battery than okay. But most people prefer play n charge model and ms is money greedy for not having it built into the controller..if they really cared about options they would include the lion pack and make the lion pack removable, not charge an extra $25 for it

#33 Edited by SolidTy (41310 posts) -

My GBA SP, DSs, smartphones, 3DS, Vita, PS3 (never replaced my launch PS3 controllers :0), Wii U, Tablets, and PS4 all have internal batteries.

I'm Lovin' it.

#34 Edited by Heil68 (42461 posts) -

Still on my launch controllers for PS3. 5 years and growing stronger every day. Quality-->Technology-->Value, the hallmarks of Sony.

#35 Edited by Bruin1986 (1164 posts) -

I think people care considerably too much about what kind of batteries are in the controller considering that as soon as they start dying, you just plug the controller in...

And no, spending 60 seconds to change the batteries isn't going to kill you.

Have we had an objective analysis on which controller lasts longer on a full charge/new batteries?

#36 Edited by Basinboy (10891 posts) -

Choice is king

#37 Edited by ShadowDeathX (10524 posts) -

SONY WINS!! No seriously, Sony wins. That battery will be just fine for 3 years or so.

And if your battery ever starts acting funny, it takes like 5 minutes to unscrew the controller, pop the clips, and replace the battery.

Is 5 minutes too much? Nope.

#38 Posted by Truth_Hurts_U (9048 posts) -

I've had a ps3 for 5 years now. Original controller still going strong. Try harder.

My 60 GB PS3 fat remote still works and holds around 8 hours charge over 6 years later.

#39 Posted by Merex760 (4278 posts) -

I consider Sony's battery decision better. The way I see it I would of bought a play and charge kit anyway for an Xbox One controller. Sony is just saving me $25.

#40 Posted by joel_c17 (2798 posts) -

Never had a problem with my ps3 controllers and they are 5 years old. Love how lems buy into the non replicable drivel that MS feeds them.

#41 Posted by hippiesanta (9715 posts) -

My DS3 is going to 4 years and still can hold up to 6 hours gamplay in rumble mode

#42 Posted by danjammer69 (4099 posts) -

I've had a ps3 for 5 years now. Original controller still going strong. Try harder.

Same for me.

I have launch controllers that are working perfectly fine. Also controllers from 2008.

Not sure where this 1 year thing is coming from.

#43 Posted by EducatingU_PCMR (428 posts) -

DS4 5 hours per charge, lol what a joke.

#44 Edited by I_can_haz (6382 posts) -

lol lems still defending AA batteries in 2013.

My PS3 controllers from launch '06 still work fine and I still use them. I've had three PS3s since then and all the controllers I got with them still work.

#45 Edited by BeardMaster (1580 posts) -

Hate these battery discussions since i know alot more about batteries than everyone here.

Buy these batteries

Then buy this charger, or this charger... and then you can legitimately look down on peasants using built in li-ions or play and charge kits.

#46 Posted by l34052 (3053 posts) -

With Sony you have a $60controller with a rechargeable battery inside. The downside however, once that battery doesn't hold a charge after about a year you have to buy another $60 controller even though your controller that doesn't hold a charge still works perfectly fine, just needs to be plugged in all the time now. Cost after a year roughly $120

Or Microsoft who also offers a $60 controller that will take AA batteries or by a $25 play and charge kit. Once the rechargeable battery no longer holds a charge, you can buy a new rechargeable battery for $15. After one year total cost is roughly $100 or more if you just buy AA batteries.

You're talking shit. Ive had 2 DS3 controllers since launch and ive never once had any problems with either of them and they still hold charge as if they were new still so stop making up shit to make yourself feel better.

#47 Posted by sebbi11 (1190 posts) -

Internal battery is a pain in the a$$, pay $60 to have a partly wired solution with a shitty battery life... you have to be an idiot to defend this. A good charger and eneloops, nothing beats it.

#48 Edited by The-Apostle (12063 posts) -

Sony. Had my PS3 for 5-7 years. Played it all the time. Never once had to replace any controller.

360 batteries suck. The remotes suck because they only work for about an hour before they stop working. Blu-Ray remote is far better, since I only had to replace the batteries like once a year.

God, I miss my PS3...

#49 Posted by Rayrota (1456 posts) -

I've had two of my rechargeable batteries for my 360 controllers die due to a lack of use...

#50 Posted by silversix_ (13409 posts) -

hahah some actually defend AA batteries in 2013 rofl