What's Microsoft's answer to SFV?

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#1 XboxStache
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And before anyone brings up Killer Instinct...I have it. Both seasons with all DLC. It lacks the balance and polish of a proper Capcom fighter.

Daigo Umehara, Ricky Ortiz, Justin Wong, Snake Eyez, Nemo, Low tier God and all the greats will guarantee that "it factor" for the PS4...while Killer Instinct...excuse me...Killer Instink still plays "hurr hurr ha har-ya har har huh huh hoo am pull off big combo"...so what's Microsoft's answer to SFV in your opinion? I already re-bought a PS4 awaiting greatness that is SFV....

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#2 MonsieurX
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Why do they need an answer for it?

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#3  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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This is what you do, you upgrade to Windows 10 and then Stream it to your Xbox One from your PC. I think they should focus on their own IP, make a new one, and or pay someone to make them one exclusively. Can grab the Itagaki dude, he will be free soon.

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#4 drummerdave9099
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I still don't understand the appeal of fighting games.

But you already answered your own question, it's Killer Instinct. Not saying that it's better though

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#5 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Wouldn't you say SFV is Sony's answer to Killer Instinct?

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#6 XboxStache
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@MonsieurX: Are you really implying that fighting games aren't important? Evo says hello.

PS4 already has 3-4 fighting games not on Xbox One. Including USF4, GGXRD, SFV and so on. Microsoft gave us Fighter Within and KI.

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@XboxStache: SFV isn't greatness, so there really doesn't need to be an answer. SFV is basically SFIV with some new characters and more and better animation. That's about it. If you already own SFIV, you really don't need to get SFV. If you do, don't waste $60 on it.

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#8 XboxStache
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@GoldenElementXL: No. Because it's not worth answering at all.

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#9 NyaDC
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What is Sony's answer to Halo 5? What is their answer to Fable Legends? What is their answer to Forza 6? What is their answer to Rare Replay? What is their answer to Gears of War: Ultimate Edition?

Do you see where this is going? Just because a big game comes out on one platform does not mean it needs to be answered by the competitor.

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#10  Edited By Articuno76
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Microsoft don't have one. Simple as.

But it's not like the genre as a whole is passing MS up. The majority of fighters are still going to be multplat, meaning MS isn't under as much pressure to have a counter. Moreover it's not like SF is going to release in a window where MS has nothing at all. Unlike Sony this year who have no major exclusives hitting.

Short version: They have no counter, but it's really not that big a deal.

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#11  Edited By BassMan
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I stopped playing fighting games at the turn of the century. I am amazed how they have been pumping out the same shit for so many years and people are still playing.

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#12 OhSnapitz
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..as one poster already stated, SFV is Sony's answer to KI.

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#13 NyaDC
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@OhSnapitz said:

..as one poster already stated, SFV is Sony's answer to KI.

That's probably half the reason Killer Instinct is coming to PC as SFV will be there as well.

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@nyadc: Sure. Give your greatest competitor the edge when you're already losing. Look, I'm not saying that Microsoft needs a fighting game that's better than SFV (that's impossible), but they do need more than KI.

And btw, as an X1 owner, when Ponies were playing Bloodborne and all the good stuff...we had Sunset Overdrive (which is the same as Ratchet and Clank), and what exactly to hold us over this year? Exactly. I know Microsoft has games coming...but with all the money they have, they couldn't give us a fighting game worth playing? I don't want to play Killer Instinct...I want KOF, SFV and all the good stuff...so there.

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#15  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@XboxStache: I see your concern now, you want a big competitive fighting game, only way to do this is to make a new fun competitive IP i think. If i were Microsoft i would maybe buy King of Fighters. That would give them King of Fighters and Killer Instinct to play with. That would be the faster route.

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#16 MonsieurX
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Why do they need an answer for it?

@XboxStache said:

@MonsieurX: Are you really implying that fighting games aren't important? Evo says hello.

PS4 already has 3-4 fighting games not on Xbox One. Including USF4, GGXRD, SFV and so on. Microsoft gave us Fighter Within and KI.

Wasn't SFIV played on the 360 last evo?

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Oh but Killer Instinct doesn't count because TC said so.

Did anyone read that recent N4G article that KI is running at 90fps?

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#18  Edited By NyaDC
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Microsoft needs to buy into a deal with Capcom to create another Power Stone, it would be game over if that happened.

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Oh but Killer Instinct doesn't count because TC said so.

Did anyone read that recent N4G article that KI is running at 90fps?

Oh shit it does run at 90 FPS, and everyone was trying to make fun of its 720p (now 900p) resolution lol...

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SFV is not exclusive.

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@FoxbatAlpha: No. Those are your words. KI doesn't even compare to SFV; and denial isn't gonna change that perspective.

It's a niche title at best. Spam combo, spam combo, combo breaker, shadow counter, Ultra....and everyone uses Jago...the one guy with the most balance in the game. I'm not giving Microsoft a pass for this ****-up. They fucked up. Now Big-headed Phil can make it up to us.

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@nyadc said:

Microsoft needs to buy into a deal with Capcom to create another Power Stone, it would be game over if that happened.

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Oh but Killer Instinct doesn't count because TC said so.

Did anyone read that recent N4G article that KI is running at 90fps?

Oh shit it does run at 90 FPS, and everyone was trying to make fun of its 720p (now 900p) resolution lol...

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@blackace said:

@XboxStache: SFV isn't greatness, so there really doesn't need to be an answer. SFV is basically SFIV with some new characters and more and better animation. That's about it. If you already own SFIV, you really don't need to get SFV. If you do, don't waste $60 on it.

Even though this in essence is true, people who have sf4 will get 5

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#23  Edited By lamprey263
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They should pay Capcom and WBIE a buttload of money to make SF x MK an Xbox One exclusive.

Regardless if MS does that (which is a safe bet to say they won't), I still wish that game would come out, I've wanted it for 23 years.

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@blackace: This is rubbish

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@nyadc: Power Stone was so fun. I actually liked it more than DOA2, but slightly less than SC2. Just my opine.

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#26 Ghost120x
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KI sucks ass to me. I will try to get back into it, but that will be really hard. Xbox used to have deals with Dead or Alive, but now they gone full multiplat. So my guess would be they would pony up some money to get a new VF from SEGA. Since Xbox and SEGA have be declared as a somewhat spiritual successors in a way.

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Umm... SFV is on PC.

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@XboxStache said:

@MonsieurX: Are you really implying that fighting games aren't important? Evo says hello.

PS4 already has 3-4 fighting games not on Xbox One. Including USF4, GGXRD, SFV and so on. Microsoft gave us Fighter Within and KI.

Nintendo gave you Killer Instinct, microsoft brought out a sequel. In fact Nintendo brought you Street Fighter and Sony brought out a sequel.

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@blackace said:

@XboxStache: SFV isn't greatness, so there really doesn't need to be an answer. SFV is basically SFIV with some new characters and more and better animation. That's about it. If you already own SFIV, you really don't need to get SFV. If you do, don't waste $60 on it.

High sodium.

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LOL fighters. Its 2015, no one cares.

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@RR360DD: Apparently whole universe cares more than ever...

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#32 Notorious1234NA
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But Killer Instinct is the answer to SFV as MS said so publicly already- they are trying to build up their own IPs which takes time

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@blackace said:

@XboxStache: SFV isn't greatness, so there really doesn't need to be an answer. SFV is basically SFIV with some new characters and more and better animation. That's about it. If you already own SFIV, you really don't need to get SFV. If you do, don't waste $60 on it.

High sodium.

Can be detrimental for your health.

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Maybe they'll get Dead or Alive to be exclusive again.

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Um Microsoft owns 90.6% of the OS marketshare for Pc's, so yeah, I don't think they need to do anything as SF5 will be on PC.

Xbox has KI, it was amazing to watch the pro's play that game at Evo, the game is anything but "Spam combo, spam combo, combo breaker, shadow counter, Ultra....and everyone uses Jago", in fact, I only saw one person play as Jago. I saw a sick as hell Cinder doing never before seen combos and tricks performed at a competitive stage, I saw a guy give up a full bars health because he got cocky and in-front of hundreds of thousands of people watching.

I cant play KI for crap but that doesnt mean the game sucks, just that I do.

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#36  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Microsoft's answer to SFV is that shitty fighting game they have that no one cares about and gets bits added to it piecemeal.

They finished it yet?

@sailor232 said:

Um Microsoft owns 90.6% of the OS marketshare for Pc's, so yeah, I don't think they need to do anything as SF5 will be on PC.

Sorry bro, Valve controls the PC gaming market. MS isn't getting any more money from that one-off license fee, that's if the person playing it hasn't pirated it.

@nyadc said:

Microsoft needs to buy into a deal with Capcom to create another Power Stone, it would be game over if that happened.

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Oh but Killer Instinct doesn't count because TC said so.

Did anyone read that recent N4G article that KI is running at 90fps?

Oh shit it does run at 90 FPS, and everyone was trying to make fun of its 720p (now 900p) resolution lol...

Yeah, lems, that's how a 60fps lock works. It's not actually outputting at 90fps.

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#37  Edited By QuadKnight
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LOLKillerInstinctLOL. They have no response.

@RR360DD said:

LOL fighters. Its 2015, no one cares.

Keep saying this if it helps you sleep better at night.

@sailor232 said:

Um Microsoft owns 90.6% of the OS marketshare for Pc's, so yeah, I don't think they need to do anything as SF5 will be on PC.

Xbox has KI, it was amazing to watch the pro's play that game at Evo, the game is anything but "Spam combo, spam combo, combo breaker, shadow counter, Ultra....and everyone uses Jago", in fact, I only saw one person play as Jago. I saw a sick as hell Cinder doing never before seen combos and tricks performed at a competitive stage, I saw a guy give up a full bars health because he got cocky and in-front of hundreds of thousands of people watching.

I cant play KI for crap but that doesnt mean the game sucks, just that I do.

LOL, you lems are delusional.

@megane said:

Maybe they'll get Dead or Alive to be exclusive again.

Not likely. Especially since DOA 5 sold considerably better on PS3 and PS4, and M$ foolishly doesn't support F2P model so DOA Core Fighters which is a huge part of Team Ninja's DOA revenue is exclusive to Playstation. Also, the guy who was responsible for DOA being exclusive in the past (Itagaki) has been fired and Hayashi his replacement is a huge PS fanboy.

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#38  Edited By Gue1
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street fighter is on a pedestal. When talking about daigo and the fgc street fighter series will always be the absolute best fighting game series there is even if it sucks just because of what it is, its history and what it represents. In the real world the likes of MK still sell more than multiple capcom fighters combined and most fighting games are way more fun to play than street fighter has ever been.

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@quadknight said:

LOLKillerInstinctLOL. They have no response.

@RR360DD said:

LOL fighters. Its 2015, no one cares.

Keep saying this if it helps you sleep better at night.

@sailor232 said:

Um Microsoft owns 90.6% of the OS marketshare for Pc's, so yeah, I don't think they need to do anything as SF5 will be on PC.

Xbox has KI, it was amazing to watch the pro's play that game at Evo, the game is anything but "Spam combo, spam combo, combo breaker, shadow counter, Ultra....and everyone uses Jago", in fact, I only saw one person play as Jago. I saw a sick as hell Cinder doing never before seen combos and tricks performed at a competitive stage, I saw a guy give up a full bars health because he got cocky and in-front of hundreds of thousands of people watching.

I cant play KI for crap but that doesnt mean the game sucks, just that I do.

LOL, you lems are delusional.

@megane said:

Maybe they'll get Dead or Alive to be exclusive again.

Not likely. Especially since DOA 5 sold considerably better on PS3 and PS4, and M$ foolishly doesn't support F2P model so DOA Core Fighters which is a huge part of Team Ninja's DOA revenue is exclusive to Playstation. Also, the guy who was responsible for DOA being exclusive in the past (Itagaki) has been fired and Hayashi his replacement is a huge PS fanboy.

LOL you cows are idiots. Microsoft doesnt need an answer to crap. Microsofts net worth = 340.8B, Sony poor ass Net worth 34.2B. Come on, you cows love numbers, how are you not getting this, though I am sure Microsoft are REALLY hurting that they didnt get a game on their console when its coming to 90% of the pc's out in the world anyway.

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Microsoft should buy the guys behind King of Fighters, or the Virtua Fighter team. The problem is that the characters of Street Fighter are now so legendary. If MS is never going to get the game, ever, then they ought to attach a license to a fighter done by a great development team.

Maybe I'm crazy but Power Rangers immediately came to my mind when I thought that.

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SF5 is a crap answer to KI, seriously, just sayin.

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#42  Edited By QuadKnight
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@sailor232 said:
@quadknight said:

LOLKillerInstinctLOL. They have no response.

@RR360DD said:

LOL fighters. Its 2015, no one cares.

Keep saying this if it helps you sleep better at night.

@sailor232 said:

Um Microsoft owns 90.6% of the OS marketshare for Pc's, so yeah, I don't think they need to do anything as SF5 will be on PC.

Xbox has KI, it was amazing to watch the pro's play that game at Evo, the game is anything but "Spam combo, spam combo, combo breaker, shadow counter, Ultra....and everyone uses Jago", in fact, I only saw one person play as Jago. I saw a sick as hell Cinder doing never before seen combos and tricks performed at a competitive stage, I saw a guy give up a full bars health because he got cocky and in-front of hundreds of thousands of people watching.

I cant play KI for crap but that doesnt mean the game sucks, just that I do.

LOL, you lems are delusional.

@megane said:

Maybe they'll get Dead or Alive to be exclusive again.

Not likely. Especially since DOA 5 sold considerably better on PS3 and PS4, and M$ foolishly doesn't support F2P model so DOA Core Fighters which is a huge part of Team Ninja's DOA revenue is exclusive to Playstation. Also, the guy who was responsible for DOA being exclusive in the past (Itagaki) has been fired and Hayashi his replacement is a huge PS fanboy.

LOL you cows are idiots. Microsoft doesnt need an answer to crap. Microsofts net worth = 340.8B, Sony poor ass Net worth 34.2B. Come on, you cows love numbers, how are you not getting this, though I am sure Microsoft are REALLY hurting that they didnt get a game on their console when its coming to 90% of the pc's out in the world anyway.

and how does this help the Xbone from getting destroyed on a monthly basis by PS4? We are not in company wars you buffoon. Last time I checked we were in SYSTEM WARS. Get that MS stick out of your ass and realize OP was talking about the Xbox when he made this thread. No one gives two shits about M$' net worth around here.

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#43 Shewgenja
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Their same answer for everything this generation. They'll send it to the same place where Cloud and DX12 have gone so their fanbase won't ask questions.

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@blackace said:

@XboxStache: SFV isn't greatness, so there really doesn't need to be an answer. SFV is basically SFIV with some new characters and more and better animation. That's about it. If you already own SFIV, you really don't need to get SFV. If you do, don't waste $60 on it.

lol does spouting nonsense like this actually help convince you lems of the stupidity you're saying?

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@Gaming-Planet said:

Umm... SFV is on PC.

Um so?

MS don't get any money for the game.

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@quadknight said:
@sailor232 said:
@quadknight said:

LOLKillerInstinctLOL. They have no response.

@RR360DD said:

LOL fighters. Its 2015, no one cares.

Keep saying this if it helps you sleep better at night.

@sailor232 said:

Um Microsoft owns 90.6% of the OS marketshare for Pc's, so yeah, I don't think they need to do anything as SF5 will be on PC.

Xbox has KI, it was amazing to watch the pro's play that game at Evo, the game is anything but "Spam combo, spam combo, combo breaker, shadow counter, Ultra....and everyone uses Jago", in fact, I only saw one person play as Jago. I saw a sick as hell Cinder doing never before seen combos and tricks performed at a competitive stage, I saw a guy give up a full bars health because he got cocky and in-front of hundreds of thousands of people watching.

I cant play KI for crap but that doesnt mean the game sucks, just that I do.

LOL, you lems are delusional.

@megane said:

Maybe they'll get Dead or Alive to be exclusive again.

Not likely. Especially since DOA 5 sold considerably better on PS3 and PS4, and M$ foolishly doesn't support F2P model so DOA Core Fighters which is a huge part of Team Ninja's DOA revenue is exclusive to Playstation. Also, the guy who was responsible for DOA being exclusive in the past (Itagaki) has been fired and Hayashi his replacement is a huge PS fanboy.

LOL you cows are idiots. Microsoft doesnt need an answer to crap. Microsofts net worth = 340.8B, Sony poor ass Net worth 34.2B. Come on, you cows love numbers, how are you not getting this, though I am sure Microsoft are REALLY hurting that they didnt get a game on their console when its coming to 90% of the pc's out in the world anyway.

and how does this help the Xbone from getting destroyed on a monthly basis by PS4? We are not in company wars you buffoon. Last time I checked we were in SYSTEM WARS. Get that MS stick out of your ass and realize OP was talking about the Xbox when he made this thread. No one gives two shits about M$' net worth around here.

I know that, I'm making a point that in the grand scheme of things, who gives a crap at Microsoft that they didn't get one game, they is making money by the truck loads, now if they start losing more and more and more games to Sony, then yes, that's a problem because that would mean third parties are no longer interested in Xbox, one game isnt the end of the world, and its also a game that will be-able to be played on Microsoft Windows pc's.

Plus the title does say Microsoft, not Xbox, so Microsoft (the company as a whole) wouldnt give a crap about Street Fighter, especially not since Killer Instinct has been doing great and has a great competitive scene.

Wow Apple should come to the console scene, they are worth twice what Microsoft is, then we would have fans more dedicated than the cows.

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Jesus reading the thread is actually quite annoying as a gamer in general, just seeing a fun game like Killer Instinct get so much shit because it's not as polished or as deep as a Capcom game even though it's still an insanely fun game (only reason I kept Xbox One).

Then the lems trying to convince themselves that SFV is just another SFIV (even though if you have half a brain you can tell from gameplay it's not true) and that the PC version will make MS money or can be streamed to Xbox (both ain't happening).

Pathetic.

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This thread is going no where.

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

This thread is going no where.

It's just pointless bashing of good games on both sides to try and convince fanboys that their game is better, while I think SF destroys the shit out of Killer Instinct I at least still REALLY enjoy KI.