What's Microsoft's answer to SFV?

Would it upset you if it did, Davem?

Nope but it won't, so no reason to be upset.

Double Helix are a third party developer.

They will with all the new pc gamers buying MS keys.

Double Helix was not the sole developer, Rare was also involved, albeit not to the same degree. It's a 3rd/1st party game if you want to get technical.

@360ru13r:

LoL.... sounds good to me.

Um no, MS don't get a cent from PC gaming unless they themselves publish the game.

MS get NOTHING from SFV.

I'm talking about all the xbox gamers buying Microsoft Windows keys to start their PC gaming journey to play SFV.

lol but I thought Xbox gamers hated Capcom and SF all of a sudden, they would've gladly bent over for them when DR3 was exclusive.

WoW this is actually quite sad.... and not in a funny kind of way.

Since when did System Warriors get their panties in twist about Exclusive Fighting Games ?

Omg, thank you!

You worded this much better than I did. With Microsoft so far behind the PS4 (and keep in mind, it's not about outdoing PS4, it's about providing an equal playing field for your fanbase), you'd think Phil Spencer would think "there's so much hype for SFV...we can't give our Xbox players this game...so what else can we offer them?", but he doesn't. Fighting games are an important genre, especially in the competitive gaming scene...Lems are just damage controlling once again and it looks pathetic.

That's why PS4's the better choice...at least games are coming that Sony gamers actually anticipate coming.

lol not really bro. changed up fighting mechanics for this game...

and for a fighting games, every game has subtle differences that makes a big deal. i am a tekken player and every game, character balance changes...its significant if you try to play fighting games more than casually

Man i know this generation is a going to be a 5-6 year nightmare for the xbox fanbase, but you guys used to try harder. You're telling one the most dedicated fanbases in the world to skip the newest iteration of their beloved fighting franchise, to pass it up simply because its no on Xbox One, that's your take on this matter? It'd be reasonable to say, they dont have to Play it on PS4, its coming to PC and they can stream the PC from PC to Xbox one using windows 10 (PC piggy backing xbox is nothing but further humiliation on the poor thing) but at least thats an option, as a matter of fact someone else already brought it up.

Man is the xbox truly in such a pitiful state of affairs, being purposely ignored by more and more devs every year, that this sort of ridiculous answers is all xbox fans can come forward with, TELLING FANS OF A CLASSIC ALL TIME FAVORITE FIGHTING GAME TO PASS UP ON IT BECAUSE ITS NOT ON XBOX, sorry for the all caps but this is laughable.

@AgentA-Mi6 said:

@blackace said:

@XboxStache: SFV isn't greatness, so there really doesn't need to be an answer. SFV is basically SFIV with some new characters and more and better animation. That's about it. If you already own SFIV, you really don't need to get SFV. If you do, don't waste $60 on it.

Man i know this generation is a going to be a 5-6 year nightmare for the xbox fanbase, but you guys used to try harder. You're telling one the most dedicated fanbases in the world to skip the newest iteration of their beloved fighting franchise, to pass it up simply because its no on Xbox One, that's your take on this matter? It'd be reasonable to say, they dont have to Play it on PS4, its coming to PC and they can stream the PC from PC to Xbox one using windows 10 (PC piggy backing xbox is nothing but further humiliation on the poor thing) but at least thats an option, as a matter of fact someone else already brought it up.

Man is the xbox truly in such a pitiful state of affairs, being purposely ignored by more and more devs every year, that this sort of ridiculous answers is all xbox fans can come forward with, TELLING FANS OF A CLASSIC ALL TIME FAVORITE FIGHTING GAME TO PASS UP ON IT BECAUSE ITS NOT ON XBOX, sorry for the all caps but this is laughable.

it's ok bro, if lems thought 2015 was bad 2016 is going to be a nightmare. Most MS 2016 games don't even have projections dates but both SFV and UC4 are coming out within months of each other in 1st Quarter. It's going to be a nasty devastation of domination.

Holiday Season be damned, Sony is going to release UC4 around income TAX season March-April (sony figured out that is when people in the US have the most disposable income). UC will be plaster on advertisements everywhere around that time and SF V will be the newest and biggest attraction for online fighting game in 2016. If MS doesn't release at least 2 of their biggest exclusive games and in the 1Q 2016, and be truely amazing.....it's over for xbone this generation.

Both SF and UC are the most praised in their respective genres and both are guaranteed to generate millions in sales. MS has shown some nice looking CGI but if they don't release some tangible games for this 1, 2 punch Sony is gearing up to slam in their face 1Q 2016 they are dead. If they wait til the end of the year to release all their big games like they have done this year, mark my words, it's a wrap.

@jsmoke03:

Na I'm with Blacklace..... so far the new features in Street Fighter V.... specifically the V-Skills are actually things other characters have been able to do normally since Street Fighter III.... they are literally just shuffling and repurposing old mechanics and give it a fancy name..... the few things that really are new to Street Fighter have existed in other Fighter for quite some time.....

So yeah.... SFV is not as progressive as it appears.

They won't have one, because not many fighting games have the fanbase of a Street Fighter. Most of that genre is going to need to sell respectable in Japan as well, so chances of them landing like a Tekken exclusive or something isn't happening.

Personally I think the game will be fantastic, because Street Fighter 4 is fantastic to this day. Chances they one up themselves on 4 is highly unlikely, but after the boredom fuel that is Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat X, I'm down for some Street Fighter. Otherwise my fighting game itch has only been handled by Guilty Gear and Smash, and I don't own an arcade stick for the PS4 yet, and Smash is fun, but it's not my type of fighting game (inb4 derp not a fighting game bitchanomics from both sides). SFV I plan on playing on my PC.

So system wars care about Street fighter now ?. after all that crap about the many versions of Street fighter IV. now all i see is a bunch of flipflop fan boys hopping on the bandwagon for a "exclusive" fighter. ill stay on SRK for fighter conversations its way too random on gamespot lol

Fine. It's a 2nd party - MS owns the IP.

It's already mutiplat PC/PS4 and as soon as it's announced coming to X1 as well suddenly nobody will care about this game.

Vanilla Street Fighter IV is horrendous what are you talking about? Not even close to more polished (but not trash.)

No because it took SFIV years and multiple iterations to reach that number. What is there to answer?

Again, MKX on Xbox One alone will probably sell more than SFV's LTD for a while.

SF strongest point in the franchise after running II into the ground, was the around 3 million it sold with Vanilla SFIV. SF isn't that strong of a franchise, and now we are talking about an exclusive game, with barely any BIG changes outside mechanics to 4, releasing in what? Spring? and this time there won't be separate iterations retail wise.

How much do you think it's going to actually sell?

@jg4xchamp:

No Love for DoA ? :(

@Junsei:

SRK is just not my type of Community, they have this mindset that I found very annoying.... I would call it Anti-Progressive.

You know how Street Fighter players are....

@Lulu_Lulu: SRK is the FGC. what is this mindset you are talking about ?. did you even play fighters ?. to you go to tourneys ?. i promise you will think differently if you are really involved

@Junsei:

"did you even play fighters ?"

LoL why would be on SRK if I didn't play Fighters ?

Anyway no I don't go to Tourneys..... probably because there aren't any to go to in my country. Not that it matters, my issue is with the SRK Forum. The majority mind set in there is very very welcoming but anti-progressive as if everybody their still thinks its the 90's compared to other Forums that are abit more open minded like Fantasy Strike, Free Step Dodge and possibly Whatever MKX calls theirs.

@Lulu_Lulu: I dont know man but i think you are wrong with anti-progressive talk but its your opinion i have no choice to respect it

@Junsei:

Its not just an oppinion.... go in there and bring up the topic that Street Fighter's 6 button set up is highly impractical and that they should reduce the number of necessary buttons to play the game down so that it work make using a modern controller more practical to play the game......

The majority of users there won't even consiser it.... any attempt to try and change something for better or worse, people treat it like its the work of Satan. I'm not saying that everybody on SRK but that is the dominating way of thinking there.

That type of thing is actually the Minority in FSD and VFDC.

I agree with this. Look at how SFXTekken was treated due to gems and such. Also, a lot of users do not have very nice things to say about other fighting games besides SF. Not the best forum for fighting games.

@intotheminx:

Which is messed up because they do have Boards for other Fighting Games there like Skull Girls and Mortal Kombat.

Personally I think if you don't play Street Fighter then theres no reason to be integrated with SRK's community... rather go to the forums that are actually for the fighting games you like..... for Dead Or Alive its FSD and I think for Tekken I think its Tekken Zaibatsu..... lol I really don't like Tekken

sounds like gamespot forums doesnt it

So, you aren't really a core fighting gamer, just a casual who happens to play a few fighters, that makes sense.

What you are suggesting is like telling a hard core PC FPS player they should use a console controllers instead of keyboard and mouse because it's simpler to just use one device for controls.

I've never heard anything so ridiculous from anyone who's a fighting gamer before. If these games were important to you then you'd by a custom controller for the issue you are referring to, not ask to have the controls and game dumbed down. But then again you were hyping up Killer Instinct over SF so whateves lol it all makes sense now.

@Junsei:

LoL.... it does... it really does.

@playharderfool:

"So, you aren't really a core fighting gamer..."

Thats a very bold statement to be making just because I'm not a Core STREET Fighter. You know didly squat about which fighting games I actually do specialise in.

"If these games were important to you then you'd by a custom controller"

Fighting Games are difficulty to get into and Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter have a high execution barrier..... Arcade Sticks and Fight Pads are expensive. Do you honestly think some newbie is going to gamble $200 on a controller for a game they're not sure they might even enjoy. Yeah I think at the very least they should consider that fact before they include Just Frames and Tiger Knee Motions that are too impractical for normal default controllers..... which make up the majority of people who buy fighting games.

How many did SF sell in total ? Alot right...... how many of those people do you think own Arcade Sticks ?

This is exactly what I dislike about SRK. They don't give 2 shits about new players or practicality. Street Fighter has 6 buttons and difficult physical execution because of "Reasons".

You should have seen the article James Chen put on SRK regarding the roller of input execution in fighting games. That community just thinks differently from a normal, default controller using, gamer such as myself.....

I like KOF, Blazblue, Guilty Gear, Samurai Showdown, Kaiser Knuckle (yes, even though it's brutally difficult), the old World Heroes series, Bloody Roar series, Naruto, Dead or Alive and many more...but I'm not gonna pretend that Street Fighter isn't the most balanced of fighting games that's easy to jump into but hard to master...you need spacing, reaction time, reads, combos, defense and an understanding of frames to master street fighter...when I play Blazblue, Persona or Guilty Gear, it's different, hell, even KOF is a much different monster.

@XboxStache:

Haha.... you really think Street Fighter (pick any version you want) is the most balanced fighting game ?

Mind you this is the same series with so many counter matchups that people think if only 5 of its entire roster is tournament viable then its a perfecr game.

I'm sorry but I just don't buy it.... and I don't even know what Street Fighter's Tier Chart looks like.

I don't support Hayashi, Tecmo didn't pay my boy Itagaki and ruined Ninja Gaiden, you know assuming if Ninja Gaiden 3 existed, which it doesnt, so I do not care if his tribute band made a "mechanically more balanced" game. Because otherwise as much as I like Itagaki and found DOA 2-4 fun, I was more of a Virtua Fighter guy in 3d, and when I wanted a dumber 3d fighter, I'll admit Soul Calibur is my jam for that. I might cave on DOA 5 on the next steam sale.

@jg4xchamp:

That last part made me smile. :)

There's no answer. MS aren't focus on anything but shooters because that's their main audience.

This post is an oldie. 2004 vintage.

Pretty sure Sony has more shooter franchises too lol.

Street Fighter V is about to usher in new golden era for fighting games. Well maybe not, but SFV itself is going to be HUGE and PS4/PC gamers will be playing it for a long time.

I don't think multiplats going exclusive(or console exclusive) is a good thing so I won't gloat, but Xbox One only gamers are gonna miss out big time. So much hype for the beta tomorrow l.

@StrongBlackVine:

And that's the cold hard truth. :(

Anyway have fun in the beta and I'd be more than happy to read your initial impressions if you decide to blog or thread it. ;)

Hopefully, my PS4 arrives tomorrow! The hype is beyond epic!

Microsoft disagrees with you. They aren't going to "make it up to you" because they don't care. Sorry. They have KIller Instinct, if you don't like it...oh well. You can play fighters on PS4 if you'd prefer, as it appears you soon will.

Microsoft does on the other hand have a stellar lineup in the next year for non-fighters, which will undoubtedly move millions of Xbones.

What is the Sony "answer" for Halo? They don't have one. I guess Sony has to "make it up" to Sony fans? No, they don't. Consoles don't have to offer directly mirrored game lineups to compete with each other.

I don't know about other people here but I'm a huge fighting game fan and have always cared about Street Fighter. I own almost all the SF games even though SF isn't the main fighter I play. SF is very popular in the fighting game community for a reason, and MS losing it is a huge blow.

Well some people here have little to no knowledge of what Street Fighter IV was and what Street Fighter V is. Most of the buzz around Street Fighter V right now is how vastly different from IV it is.

-No focus attacks and all related mechanics such as FADC

-No invincibility on back dashes

-no crouch techs

-less reliance on jab confirms

-almost no hard knockdowns

-addition of new meter/mechanic called the V-gauge

-combo breaking

-no more ULTRA comeback mechanic. Instead players have to skillfully utilize their V-gauge to make a comeback.

-etc,etc, etc

and why would they need an answer to Halo when COD and BF sell better than any Halo game? They already have exclsuive marketing rights to Black Ops 3 (easily the biggest game this year) and Star Wars Battlefront 3 which will sell millions of PS4s to shooter fans.

MS doesn't have anything remotely close to Street Fighter in terms of selling Xbox consoles to fighting game fans. With SFV being exclusive to PS4/PC most of the fighting game community will move on to PS4.

I have't purchased a street fighter game since it was on Super Nintendo. I don't feel like I care about this at all, but for some reason Sony fans are telling me that I do care...so I guess that means I have to...?

I don't care what Microsoft agrees with. That's why they're so far behind the PS4 right now and fail to send a message to 360 owners. When I had 360, and even the PS3, (still have them) I wasn't worrying about lack of game genres, I literally had the world at my fingertips. Killer Instinct is an okay game, but will never compare to SFV. Just think of character recognition, outside of TJ Combo, Cinder, Orchid and Jago, no one actually cares about the roster at hand.

In Street fighter there's Ken, Akuma, Chun-Li Dan, Ryu, Balrog, Bison, Blanka, Dhalsim, Sagat and damn near the entire roster being memorable save for low-tier guys like Deejay.

Graphically speaking, they're worlds apart. Killer Instinct looks like anything the 360 was capable of with the exception of Particles. Gameplay-wise, guys like Daigo Umehara, Momochi, Low tier God, Pie Smug and the gang aren't really after the KI scene at all. Sorry to burst your bubble.

And what's Sony's answer to Halo? Who cares!!! Halo 5 looks like it runs on the Halo 4 engine anyway, and 343 still aren't gonna give the fans what they want like Offline multiplayer with bots or split screen...think about Uncharted 4 and dat epic mud graphics and next-gen gameplay before you bring up tired Halo. I'm not even hyped for it; and while you nitpick Sony, at least Sony hasn't shown an exclusive for the PS4 3 years in a row without a proper release like Quantum Break..you're just making excuses for big head Phil and Microsoft when they're out of touch. Watch the X1 flop despite me actually owning and liking the console.

VGchartz has a history of never being accurate.

The only legit way you can use vg chartz is by saying something like, "xyz game has sold at least xyz units" VGChartz is known for underestimating not overestimating:

• For months VGchartz pretended PC sales for BF3 did not exist straight up ignored them in their total count.
• Another example is that Bethesda claimed Skyrim sales surpassed 20m, but VGchartz still haven't updated about 2m short.

Anyway, his main point was that KI is nowhere near close in terms of popularity compared to SF franchise. They know it, we know it, right now well they were just jerking his chain cuz on this forum you bloody well can.