We may be able to score another one for the 360: OXM reviewed LFD2 9.5!!

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.sikanderahmed

i wouldnt say that, while i dont have any problem playing L4D2 with KB/M i still prefer controller coz its better + the graphics are SLIGHTLY worse on 360 so i dont see how you can call it a vastly inferior version

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.With-Hatred

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.aaronmullan

i wouldnt say that, while i dont have any problem playing L4D2 with KB/M i still prefer controller coz its better + the graphics are SLIGHTLY worse on 360 so i dont see how you can call it a vastly inferior version

i dont like user created content and the first thing i do when i get a pc game is find a way to disable user files from being downloaded to my laptop from servers.

Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.aaronmullan

That's not an exclusiveParasomniac

Vastly superior though? I mean the game isnt amazing looking anyway. Aside from the nicer resolution, I dont see that much difference b/w both versions (and yes I maxed it out on my PC)h575309

Even though this game is multiplat, doesn't this still count as a loss for PS3? Just seems to me that 360 and PC gamers are getting a top tier title, and PS3 is not.

Also, the difference between the 360 and PC version of L4D was barely noticable, and only if you looked. This game will be similar. Valve are not known for their graphics.

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

i wouldnt say that, while i dont have any problem playing L4D2 with KB/M i still prefer controller coz its better + the graphics are SLIGHTLY worse on 360 so i dont see how you can call it a vastly inferior version

sikanderahmed

i dont like user created content and the first thing i do when i get a pc game is find a way to disable user files from being downloaded to my laptop from servers.

[QUOTE="h575309"]Vastly superior though? I mean the game isnt amazing looking anyway. Aside from the nicer resolution, I dont see that much difference b/w both versions (and yes I maxed it out on my PC)aaronmullan

i doubt thats the case as there are several differences between 360 and pc demo, also why would valve go through the hassle of porting 360 demo to pc e.g. optimizing it and adding features like steam group play etc.i mean its just a demo

[QUOTE="h575309"]Vastly superior though? I mean the game isnt amazing looking anyway. Aside from the nicer resolution, I dont see that much difference b/w both versions (and yes I maxed it out on my PC)aaronmullan

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]Vastly superior though? I mean the game isnt amazing looking anyway. Aside from the nicer resolution, I dont see that much difference b/w both versions (and yes I maxed it out on my PC)delta3074

pc version looks better then 360 version but i agree that 360 can push source engine quite far though it seems lazy valve was unable to do that because 360 version should look exactly like pc version running on max settings but it looks slightly worse.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]Did you? We all know what the definitions are. Even if "console exclusive" is not accepted in SW, we all know what it means. It "twists" nothing, it is a description of a very real and meaningful concept. Only someone with an agenda can't see that, or pretends not to.nethernova

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

So sony and nintendo fans are really farm animals? It's pretty hilarious to see people debate dictionary definitions of terminology while ignoring all the other stupid terms that are already accepted.

[QUOTE="nethernova"]

[QUOTE="skektek"]

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

topgunmv

So sony and nintendo fans are really farm animals? It's pretty hilarious to see people debate dictionary definitions of terminology while ignoring all the other stupid terms that are already accepted.

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]That's not an exclusiveDoctor-McNinja

L4D2 is pretty cool.
It was nice playing in a day level.The melee weapons are alright I guess,I still don't prefer over dual wield.I only had the cooking pan,guitar and machete though.
The new weapons are nice too...Especially the AK.
The gore is awesome.Shooting zombies and seeing limbs fly off is very rewarding.Something I might pick up when it hits the bargain bin.

System Requirements
Recommended:

Supported OS: Windows® 7 / Vista / Vista64 / XP
Processor: Intel core 2 duo 2.4GHz
Memory: 1 GB for XP / 2GB for Vista
Graphics: DirectX 9 compatible video card with Shader model 3.0. NVidia 7600, ATI X1600 or better
Hard Drive: At least 7.5 GB of free space
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card

I hate the term "Console" exclusive. If its on another platform then its NOT exclusive. End off!

it's exclusively on Pc and xbox 360. end off :D

not interested, but another big game which won't enrich the poor ps3 library

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="skektek"]

Did you even try to think this out before you posted?

skektek

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

Why are you talking down to him as if he was stupid? He gave you a reasoned responce that while you may disagree with, does make some sense. What he is trying to say is that it is still a benefit to the 360 game library when compared to that of the other consoles, the PS3 and Wii.

Sure its not an exclusive and system wars refuses (by some) to give any merit to the 360 game library for such multiplats but the fact remains that it is an ADDITION to the 360 game library. I also agree that a lot of cows act deliberately obtuse. Like I said its an ADDITION to the 360 game library NOT PS3, nothing more but certainly nothing less. Don't act like it means nothing at all!!

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Did you? We all know what the definitions are. Even if "console exclusive" is not accepted in SW, we all know what it means. It "twists" nothing, it is a description of a very real and meaningful concept. Only someone with an agenda can't see that, or pretends not to.DAZZER7

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

Why are you talking down to him as if he was stupid? He gave you a reasoned responce that while you may disagree with, does make some sense. What he is trying to say is that it is still a benefit to the 360 game library when compared to that of the other consoles, the PS3 and Wii.

Sure its not an exclusive and system wars refuses (by some) to give any merit to the 360 game library for such multiplats but the fact remains that it is an ADDITION to the 360 game library. I also agree that a lot of cows act deliberately obtuse. Like I said its an ADDITION to the 360 game library NOT PS3, nothing more but certainly nothing less. Don't act like it means nothing at all!!

The day people stop using the term "Console gfx king", is the day that "console exclusive" will have no place.

What lemmings really mean to say is "PS3 excluded", but that would infer that the Wii isn't excluded, but nobody cares if the Wii is excluded, or PC given the terms "console exclusive" and "console gfx king".

Really, neither should be allowed.

Hahahaha this is jokes. This game is sick, been playing the demo on XBL last couple days and its really fun...much,much more intense from the first game. My only complaint is people with really **** connections, pisses me off. I dont think people undetstand that you cant download porn and play online at the same time hahaha. But has anyone on PSN played it yet.................?

Still waiting to hear what lemmings have to say about MLB: The Show.nervmeister

not interested, but another big game which won't enrich the poor ps3 library

aia89

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Did you? We all know what the definitions are. Even if "console exclusive" is not accepted in SW, we all know what it means. It "twists" nothing, it is a description of a very real and meaningful concept. Only someone with an agenda can't see that, or pretends not to.DAZZER7

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

Why are you talking down to him as if he was stupid? He gave you a reasoned responce that while you may disagree with, does make some sense. What he is trying to say is that it is still a benefit to the 360 game library when compared to that of the other consoles, the PS3 and Wii.

Sure its not an exclusive and system wars refuses (by some) to give any merit to the 360 game library for such multiplats but the fact remains that it is an ADDITION to the 360 game library. I also agree that a lot of cows act deliberately obtuse. Like I said its an ADDITION to the 360 game library NOT PS3, nothing more but certainly nothing less. Don't act like it means nothing at all!!

I understand that SW is a land of extremes and a multiplat landing on one console but not another is something, but it certainly isn't an exclusive and it certainly isn't ownage.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

Lemmings trying to twist definitions :roll:

With-Hatred

...no it's twsting definitions. I think this thread already derailed the supposed definition of "Console Exclusive." For it to be a Console Exclusive, it can't be released on the PC platform. The Multiple MLB 09 the Show threads also proved that system wars does not acknowledge "Sony Exclusives" or "Microsoft exclusives" so you can't use that either. It's just a multiplat.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="skektek"]

Did you even try to think this out before you posted?

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Did you? We all know what the definitions are. Even if "console exclusive" is not accepted in SW, we all know what it means. It "twists" nothing, it is a description of a very real and meaningful concept. Only someone with an agenda can't see that, or pretends not to.dsmccracken

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

No, its a term used by raving fanboys in a desperate attempt at ownage.

Two wrongs doesn't make a right but your example is bunk anyway. When something is declared "Network Exclusive" it is only on NBC, CBS, FOX, etc(PS3, 360, Wii), it isn't concurrently airing on HBO, Cinemax, etc (PC).

In an effort to claim some sort of ownage he failed to grasp a fundamental concept, even after it was pointed out to him. I simply explained an utterly obvious concept to him in a way he might understand. Don't shoot the messenger.

I understand that SW is a land of extremes and a multiplat landing on one console but not another is something, but it certainly isn't an exclusive and it certainly isn't ownage.

skektek

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="skektek"]

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

No, its a term used by raving fanboys in a desperate attempt at ownage.

Two wrongs doesn't make a right but your example is bunk anyway. When something is declared "Network Exclusive" it is only on NBC, CBS, FOX, etc(PS3, 360, Wii), it isn't concurrently airing on HBO, Cinemax, etc (PC).

Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.aaronmullan

No, its a term used by raving fanboys in a desperate attempt at ownage.

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

[QUOTE="skektek"]

Lemmings trying to twist definitions :roll:

...no it's twsting definitions. I think this thread already derailed the supposed definition of "Console Exclusive." For it to be a Console Exclusive, it can't be released on the PC platform. The Multiple MLB 09 the Show threads also proved that system wars does not acknowledge "Sony Exclusives" or "Microsoft exclusives" so you can't use that either. It's just a multiplat.

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]Maybe it's cows doing damage control ;)

...no it's twsting definitions. I think this thread already derailed the supposed definition of "Console Exclusive." For it to be a Console Exclusive, it can't be released on the PC platform. The Multiple MLB 09 the Show threads also proved that system wars does not acknowledge "Sony Exclusives" or "Microsoft exclusives" so you can't use that either. It's just a multiplat.

Hahahaha this is jokes. This game is sick, been playing the demo on XBL last couple days and its really fun...much,much more intense from the first game. My only complaint is people with really **** connections, pisses me off. I dont think people undetstand that you cant download porn and play online at the same time hahaha. But has anyone on PSN played it yet.................?

destro123

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

...no it's twsting definitions. I think this thread already derailed the supposed definition of "Console Exclusive." For it to be a Console Exclusive, it can't be released on the PC platform. The Multiple MLB 09 the Show threads also proved that system wars does not acknowledge "Sony Exclusives" or "Microsoft exclusives" so you can't use that either. It's just a multiplat.

dsmccracken

which one? console graphics king or console exclusive?

This isn't exculsive in any way shape or form. This is "System Wars", meaning it includes all systems. The PC is included also.

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]That's not an exclusiveTrinitarian

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="clone01"] ^^this - i've said it before and i'll say it again: console exclusive and console graphics king are silly terms.clone01

which one? console graphics king or console exclusive?

This isn't exculsive in any way shape or form. This is "System Wars", meaning it includes all systems. The PC is included also.

lundy86_4

I say, and have always said, that it is a term with meaning, though it may not have a real world impact on all. It may be silly to you, in that you have a PC that is gaming-capable, but that doesn't make the term itself silly. It not affecting you personally is not the bar that it should be measured by.dsmccracken

which one? console graphics king or console exclusive?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This isn't exculsive in any way shape or form. This is "System Wars", meaning it includes all systems. The PC is included also.

dsmccracken

It isn't exclusive in the terms in which we apply it in this forum. Therefore it is not a way, shape or form ;)

All systems being welcome means we cannot exclude one for the benefit of the other. Meaning I am entitled to come in and also say "X game is on PC", and I cannot be held in the wrong for that. Therefore "Console Exclusive" does not work.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="clone01"]

which one? console graphics king or console exclusive?

clone01

so you think console graphics king is silly but console exclusive isn't?clone01