its an alright magizine, and it gave LFD2 a 9.5, it also scored AC2 with a 9.0.
honestly i never got into LFD but after playing the demo every day its gets pretty addictive. Hopefully it scores well every where else.
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its an alright magizine, and it gave LFD2 a 9.5, it also scored AC2 with a 9.0.
honestly i never got into LFD but after playing the demo every day its gets pretty addictive. Hopefully it scores well every where else.
Although the score is very good and I am excited to play this game, it is not an exclusive so I do not see how this counts as a "point" for the 360 as it is on the PC as well (and will be the better version). Unless we are talking about console exclusives but I always thought that was a stupid argument
How do you not get that exclusivity (or lack thereof) is not the only thing that affects system comparisons?How is this another point for the 360?... It's not even the superior version, let alone exclusive.
WAIW
That's not an exclusiveParasomniacyeah but its a console exclusive. I don't focus on the PC in these sorts of things. Only the PS3. To be a hardcore PC gamer is out of the question for me right now and probably for years to come. For one, the games on the PC are almost always better anyway and that comes with a huge price tag IMO. I can't imagio n having to buy upgrades for almost every high end game that comes out, worrying about all the problems that a computer has in regardes to bugs and glithes. I won't argue that PC gamers have a better time with gaming but its just not in my reach. IMO PC is a superior beast lol, so just let us console gamers fight over the scraps :)
[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]That's not an exclusiveTrinitarianyeah but its a console exclusive. I don't focus on the PC in these sorts of things. Only the PS3. To be a hardcore PC gamer is out of the question for me right now and probably for years to come. For one, the games on the PC are almost always better anyway and that comes with a huge price tag IMO. I can't imagio n having to buy upgrades for almost every high end game that comes out, worrying about all the problems that a computer has in regardes to bugs and glithes. I won't argue that PC gamers have a better time with gaming but its just not in my reach. IMO PC is a superior beast lol, so just let us console gamers fight over the scraps :) The term "console exclusive" is not widely accepted here in GS. That said, the concept that it describes clearly has meaning, and L4D2 fits into that...
[QUOTE="WAIW"]How do you not get that exclusivity (or lack thereof) is not the only thing that affects system comparisons? Why would it not be "another point for the PC", but "another point for the 360?" It sounds as though he's one of the people trying to pass it off as a 360 exclusive.How is this another point for the 360?... It's not even the superior version, let alone exclusive.
dsmccracken
LFD? is that sarcasm, I can't tell...... LFD - left for dead- left four dead - left for dead - L4D, all the sameI'm just not use to people calling it LFD[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]
[QUOTE="Trinitarian"]well i meant compared to the PS3 not the PC. PS3 isnt getting LFD right?hkmp5a2
[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]That's not an exclusiveTrinitarianyeah but its a console exclusive. I don't focus on the PC in these sorts of things. Only the PS3. To be a hardcore PC gamer is out of the question for me right now and probably for years to come. For one, the games on the PC are almost always better anyway and that comes with a huge price tag IMO. I can't imagio n having to buy upgrades for almost every high end game that comes out, worrying about all the problems that a computer has in regardes to bugs and glithes. I won't argue that PC gamers have a better time with gaming but its just not in my reach. IMO PC is a superior beast lol, so just let us console gamers fight over the scraps :) Left 4 Dead is very very easy to run. You probably could build a computer to run it for less than a PS3 or Elite360. Also Console Exclusive means nothing here except to primuswhateverhisnameis.
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="WAIW"]How do you not get that exclusivity (or lack thereof) is not the only thing that affects system comparisons? Why would it not be "another point for the PC", but "another point for the 360?" It sounds as though he's one of the people trying to pass it off as a 360 exclusive. I would imagine that he's probably a consolite. Obviously, it is both a point for the 360 AND the PC.How is this another point for the 360?... It's not even the superior version, let alone exclusive.
WAIW
Cows (and sometimes Hermits) acting deliberately obtuse regarding the obvious meanings of those definitions :roll:Lemmings trying to twist definitions :roll:
skektek
is that sarcasm, I can't tell...... LFD - left for dead- left four dead - left for dead - L4D, all the sameI'm just not use to people calling it LFD[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]
[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]LFD?
sherman-tank1
Not realy any fault on your part; I'm not even used to it lol
Cows (and sometimes Hermits) acting deliberately obtuse regarding the obvious meanings of those definitions :roll:[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="skektek"]
Lemmings trying to twist definitions :roll:
skektek
Did you even try to think this out before you posted?
Did you? We all know what the definitions are. Even if "console exclusive" is not accepted in SW, we all know what it means. It "twists" nothing, it is a description of a very real and meaningful concept. Only someone with an agenda can't see that, or pretends not to.Sorry all Cows have a gaming PC capable of playing crysis at max settings.....unless it comes to Dragon Age, then they play their port to spite the Lemmings.
tempest91
Well, playing gneralizations can be fun, even if inaccurate. Watch :
Sorry all Lemmings have a gaming PC capable of playing Crysis at max setting (To offset KZ2 & U2 Graphics)....unless it comes to L4D2, then they play their port to spite the Cows.
That's why you don't see me use phrases against the factions unless it's to make a point like this.
[QUOTE="tempest91"]
Sorry all Cows have a gaming PC capable of playing crysis at max settings.....unless it comes to Dragon Age, then they play their port to spite the Lemmings.
SolidTy
Well, playing gneralizations can be fun, even if inaccurate. Watch :
Sorry all Lemmings have a gaming PC capable of playing Crysis at max setting (To offset KZ2 & U2 Graphics)....unless it comes to L4D2, then they play their port to spite the Cows.
That's why you don't see me use phrases against the factions unless it's to make a point like this.
The real point isn't whether a cow can play a 360/PC game on their PC. Of course they can, and it doesn't take an incredibly expensive super-computer, either. I don't know the system requirements, but I doubt that L4D2 is on a level with Crysis. No, more to the point is that, for a cow to cite their PC, they would need to stipulate that it takes a $300 PS3 and a minimum $500 PC to counter what lems get for $250.[QUOTE="tempest91"]
Sorry all Cows have a gaming PC capable of playing crysis at max settings.....unless it comes to Dragon Age, then they play their port to spite the Lemmings.
SolidTy
Well, playing gneralizations can be fun, even if inaccurate. Watch :
Sorry all Lemmings have a gaming PC capable of playing Crysis at max setting (To offset KZ2 & U2 Graphics)....unless it comes to L4D2, then they play their port to spite the Cows.
That's why you don't see me use phrases against the factions unless it's to make a point like this.
pretty much /thread if this was another free for all ps3 - 360 - pc thread.. ow wait nm it is.It's just an awesome game the PS3 will never have.How is this another point for the 360?... It's not even the superior version, let alone exclusive.
WAIW
[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Cows (and sometimes Hermits) acting deliberately obtuse regarding the obvious meanings of those definitions :roll:dsmccracken
Did you even try to think this out before you posted?
Did you? We all know what the definitions are. Even if "console exclusive" is not accepted in SW, we all know what it means. It "twists" nothing, it is a description of a very real and meaningful concept. Only someone with an agenda can't see that, or pretends not to.I'll take that as a no.
Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:
"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.
[QUOTE="tempest91"]
Sorry all Cows have a gaming PC capable of playing crysis at max settings.....unless it comes to Dragon Age, then they play their port to spite the Lemmings.
SolidTy
Well, playing gneralizations can be fun, even if inaccurate. Watch :
Sorry all Lemmings have a gaming PC capable of playing Crysis at max setting (To offset KZ2 & U2 Graphics)....unless it comes to L4D2, then they play their port to spite the Cows.
That's why you don't see me use phrases against the factions unless it's to make a point like this.
Lems mention Crysis every time a cow claims a PS3 game is graphics king, because there is only one king. There cannot be two, or three. Just one. They are not hiding behind the PC, all they are doing is stating a fact. The 360 will never have a graphics king, just as the PS3 will never have one either. Neither console can match Crysis.L4D2 is a game that the PS3 will never have. It doesn't matter if it's on PC, or not. The PS3 doesn't get it. This gives the 360 an advantage, seeing as how well games on the 360 sell, compared to PC game. And, as such, I believe it's fair for people to use it against the PS3 without people saying it doesn't count, because they just want to pretend it doesn't exist.
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="skektek"]
Did you even try to think this out before you posted?
Did you? We all know what the definitions are. Even if "console exclusive" is not accepted in SW, we all know what it means. It "twists" nothing, it is a description of a very real and meaningful concept. Only someone with an agenda can't see that, or pretends not to.I'll take that as a no.
Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:
"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.
Console exclusive is about as dumb as console graphics king. Neither should be used. However, L4D2 definately gives the 360 the advantage.its an alright magizine, and it gave LFD2 a 9.5, it also scored AC2 with a 9.0.
honestly i never got into LFD but after playing the demo every day its gets pretty addictive. Hopefully it scores well every where else.
eh, i subscribe to OXM, but i can't say its really a neutral source for reviews.[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]That's not an exclusiveTrinitarianyeah but its a console exclusive. I don't focus on the PC in these sorts of things. Only the PS3. To be a hardcore PC gamer is out of the question for me right now and probably for years to come. For one, the games on the PC are almost always better anyway and that comes with a huge price tag IMO. I can't imagio n having to buy upgrades for almost every high end game that comes out, worrying about all the problems that a computer has in regardes to bugs and glithes. I won't argue that PC gamers have a better time with gaming but its just not in my reach. IMO PC is a superior beast lol, so just let us console gamers fight over the scraps :) thats great and all, but GS doesnt feel the same as you do
[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]That's not an exclusiveTrinitarianyeah but its a console exclusive. I don't focus on the PC in these sorts of things. Only the PS3. To be a hardcore PC gamer is out of the question for me right now and probably for years to come. For one, the games on the PC are almost always better anyway and that comes with a huge price tag IMO. I can't imagio n having to buy upgrades for almost every high end game that comes out, worrying about all the problems that a computer has in regardes to bugs and glithes. I won't argue that PC gamers have a better time with gaming but its just not in my reach. IMO PC is a superior beast lol, so just let us console gamers fight over the scraps :)
wait OXM gave an Xbox/PC game a high score? Alert the press. What's next PSM gave lair a 10? KukicAdoDude, I don't thing the developers of Lair, themselves, would give it a 10.
OXM? Didn't they give Mass Effect, COD4 and Halo 3 all a score of 10?
Regardless, L4D2 isn't exclusive. And to be honest, I'm not interested in it.
another great console exclusvie for the 360. I think it'll be AAA
aia89
If it is, it should OFFSET the Console Exclusives MLB08:The Show, Multiple BUZZ games, Mulitple SingStar Games, and AAA MLB2009:The Show!
Oh yeah, there is no console exclusives...
Also, I predict AA, but I would love to see an AAA score.
we know cows, it cant be counted and doesnt make a difference cause its not exclusive. yet another great game that wont be available on the PS3
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
[QUOTE="tempest91"]
Sorry all Cows have a gaming PC capable of playing crysis at max settings.....unless it comes to Dragon Age, then they play their port to spite the Lemmings.
MortalDecay
Well, playing gneralizations can be fun, even if inaccurate. Watch :
Sorry all Lemmings have a gaming PC capable of playing Crysis at max setting (To offset KZ2 & U2 Graphics)....unless it comes to L4D2, then they play their port to spite the Cows.
That's why you don't see me use phrases against the factions unless it's to make a point like this.
Lems mention Crysis every time a cow claims a PS3 game is graphics king, because there is only one king. There cannot be two, or three. Just one. They are not hiding behind the PC, all they are doing is stating a fact. The 360 will never have a graphics king, just as the PS3 will never have one either. Neither console can match Crysis.L4D2 is a game that the PS3 will never have. It doesn't matter if it's on PC, or not. The PS3 doesn't get it. This gives the 360 an advantage, seeing as how well games on the 360 sell, compared to PC game. And, as such, I believe it's fair for people to use it against the PS3 without people saying it doesn't count, because they just want to pretend it doesn't exist.
Firstly, you just changed the subject to consoles exclusive argument...but whatever. I don't make the rules here, but what you are claiming would be a win against the PS3, would actually help the PS3. Upcoming PC/PS3 games like Agency and DC universe, not to mention FF14. Then there is all the PS3 games that don't count like Sinstar, Buzz, MLB:08:The Show, and AAA MLB:The Show 2009.
While I know that would be more fair, the PC users won't have any of this.
Like it's been said, it's SW,not console wars...but this isn't my forum, so I just abide. BTW, you completely changed the subject, yet take note...I answered your change in topic.
Back to my point, there is Console Graphics Kings, and there always will be. This term was popular back when Xbox bested the PS2 last gen, and it sure was popular back in 2006 when GeoW1 came out...it's still strong now.
The two ideas ARE NOT even in the same vein, so I don't know why you keep trying to say they are.
I have a subscription to OXM since they first started. I don't like their reviews so much in general, but it's still nice to know, thanks for posting!
It's like Nintendo Power or OPM, they are nice indicators, but the exclusive mags may overate games a tad.
SolidTy
Then why stay subscribed?
[QUOTE="Trinitarian"][QUOTE="Parasomniac"]That's not an exclusiveAce6301yeah but its a console exclusive. I don't focus on the PC in these sorts of things. Only the PS3. To be a hardcore PC gamer is out of the question for me right now and probably for years to come. For one, the games on the PC are almost always better anyway and that comes with a huge price tag IMO. I can't imagio n having to buy upgrades for almost every high end game that comes out, worrying about all the problems that a computer has in regardes to bugs and glithes. I won't argue that PC gamers have a better time with gaming but its just not in my reach. IMO PC is a superior beast lol, so just let us console gamers fight over the scraps :) Left 4 Dead is very very easy to run. You probably could build a computer to run it for less than a PS3 or Elite360. Also Console Exclusive means nothing here except to primuswhateverhisnameis. Exactly. If you have a PC capable of running Vista, you shouldn't have much problem running L4D at levels comparable to consoles. And everyone knows by now what an oxymoron "Console Exclusive" is. Still will be another solid title in for the PC/360.
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