We may be able to score another one for the 360: OXM reviewed LFD2 9.5!!

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#51 TheRapture
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I love anything zombie related, but this series is just garbage. It could so obviously be a mod it's not even funny. Why people paid for this once, let alone again a second time with it's "sequel", are beyond me. $30 is worth it for a toss away game like L4D, not $70.
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#52 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I have a subscription to OXM since they first started. I don't like their reviews so much in general, but it's still nice to know, thanks for posting!

It's like Nintendo Power or OPM, they are nice indicators, but the exclusive mags may overate games a tad.

rolo107

Then why stay subscribed?

Tax Write off...besides, It's not like I subscribe to magazines only for reviews.

Seriously, if you think about it, there is no reason to question me. These magazines have a ton of articles on various games, gear, and editorials.

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#53 mgkennedy5
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It's multiplat, so I don't see how it's another point. It doesn't matter, I'm getting the superior PC version
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#54 SpinoRaptor24
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I have a subscription to OXM since they first started. I don't like their reviews so much in general, but it's still nice to know, thanks for posting!

It's like Nintendo Power or OPM, they are nice indicators, but the exclusive mags may overate games a tad.

rolo107

Then why stay subscribed?

They have interesting articles.

And their magazine is enjoyable I guess.

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#55 santoron
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, playing gneralizations can be fun, even if inaccurate. Watch :

Sorry all Lemmings have a gaming PC capable of playing Crysis at max setting (To offset KZ2 & U2 Graphics)....unless it comes to L4D2, then they play their port to spite the Cows.

That's why you don't see me use phrases against the factions unless it's to make a point like this.

SolidTy

Lems mention Crysis every time a cow claims a PS3 game is graphics king, because there is only one king. There cannot be two, or three. Just one. They are not hiding behind the PC, all they are doing is stating a fact. The 360 will never have a graphics king, just as the PS3 will never have one either. Neither console can match Crysis.

L4D2 is a game that the PS3 will never have. It doesn't matter if it's on PC, or not. The PS3 doesn't get it. This gives the 360 an advantage, seeing as how well games on the 360 sell, compared to PC game. And, as such, I believe it's fair for people to use it against the PS3 without people saying it doesn't count, because they just want to pretend it doesn't exist.

Firstly, you just changed the subject to consoles exclusive argument...but whatever. I don't make the rules here, but what you are claiming would be a win against the PS3, would actually help the PS3. Upcoming PC/PS3 games like Agency and DC universe, not to mention FF14. Then there is all the PS3 games that don't count like Sinstar, Buzz, MLB:08:The Show, and AAA MLB:The Show 2009.

While I know that would be more fair, the PC users won't have any of this.

Like it's been said, it's SW,not console wars...but this isn't my forum, so I just abide. BTW, you completely changed the subject, yet take note...I answered your change in topic.

Back to my point, there is Console Graphics Kings, and there always will be. This term was popular back when Xbox bested the PS2 last gen, and it sure was popular back in 2006 when GeoW1 came out...it's still strong now.

The two ideas ARE NOT even in the same vein, so I don't know why you keep trying to say they are.

Well said. How hard can it be to understand that something that isn't an "Exclusive" won't be counted as an "Exclusive"? And it seems the only people that try and compare that to a console graphics king are the fanboys of the console without it. If the title shifts systems, then the fanboys switch over who likes it and who doesn't. :roll:
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#56 pitty8982
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another AAA game for the xbxo 360

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#57 PrimusGears
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another AAA game for the xbxo 360

pitty8982

that cant be played on the PS3.

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#58 PrimusGears
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, playing gneralizations can be fun, even if inaccurate. Watch :

Sorry all Lemmings have a gaming PC capable of playing Crysis at max setting (To offset KZ2 & U2 Graphics)....unless it comes to L4D2, then they play their port to spite the Cows.

That's why you don't see me use phrases against the factions unless it's to make a point like this.

SolidTy

Lems mention Crysis every time a cow claims a PS3 game is graphics king, because there is only one king. There cannot be two, or three. Just one. They are not hiding behind the PC, all they are doing is stating a fact. The 360 will never have a graphics king, just as the PS3 will never have one either. Neither console can match Crysis.

L4D2 is a game that the PS3 will never have. It doesn't matter if it's on PC, or not. The PS3 doesn't get it. This gives the 360 an advantage, seeing as how well games on the 360 sell, compared to PC game. And, as such, I believe it's fair for people to use it against the PS3 without people saying it doesn't count, because they just want to pretend it doesn't exist.

Firstly, you just changed the subject to consoles exclusive argument...but whatever. I don't make the rules here, but what you are claiming would be a win against the PS3, would actually help the PS3. Upcoming PC/PS3 games like Agency and DC universe, not to mention FF14. Then there is all the PS3 games that don't count like Sinstar, Buzz, MLB:08:The Show, and AAA MLB:The Show 2009.

While I know that would be more fair, the PC users won't have any of this.

Like it's been said, it's SW,not console wars...but this isn't my forum, so I just abide. BTW, you completely changed the subject, yet take note...I answered your change in topic.

Back to my point, there is Console Graphics Kings, and there always will be. This term was popular back when Xbox bested the PS2 last gen, and it sure was popular back in 2006 when GeoW1 came out...it's still strong now.

The two ideas ARE NOT even in the same vein, so I don't know why you keep trying to say they are.

help the PS3? please give me a break, 2. Lets be real here, you can have Buzz lol, AA the show 08, AAA the show 2009, and i will take Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, Upcoming Splinter Cell, L4D 1 AND 2 any day of the week, It wouldnt be an advantage for the PS3, maybe for you since you are a cow, but not to the rest of the world.

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#59 brennan7777
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Look at all the crazy lemmings in this thread.

So if the game is exclusive to xbox it is also exclusive to PC which doesnt make sense to me...

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#60 clone01
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we know cows, it cant be counted and doesnt make a difference cause its not exclusive. yet another great game that wont be available on the PS3

PrimusGears
console exclusive makes about as much sense as console graphics king.
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#61 PrimusGears
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[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

we know cows, it cant be counted and doesnt make a difference cause its not exclusive. yet another great game that wont be available on the PS3

clone01
console exclusive makes about as much sense as console graphics king.

we know and that makes about as much sense as 360 not getting credit for having a game that cant be played on the PS3.
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#62 scarface_dm
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Woooooohooooooooooo Count another AAA game to the 360 library, :D

360 just gets better and better

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#63 godzillavskong
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While I do like reading game magazines and game sites reviews on games, I find it a little hard to put a lot of faith in OXM reviews. I just feel like they may be a little biased. Official Xbox magazine reviewing games for a Xbox console makes it a little difficult for me. I do look at their reviews, but I check with Game Informer, Gamepro, IGN, and this site also.

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#64 pitty8982
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great year for the xbox 360

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#65 Ace6301
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Woooooohooooooooooo Count another AAA game to the 360 library, :D

360 just gets better and better

scarface_dm
Yes because OXM has SUCH good reviews and they so very often are the same as gamespots right? I say this as a HUGE L4D fan who has something like 320 hours in the first one on steam. Do I think it's going to get AAA? No. Probably not here. First one got 8.5 and this one is fairly similar and with tilt I can't see it doing any better. Doesn't mean I'm not going to love this game though.
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#66 gamecubepad
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Been playing the demo. Not surprised if this game gets AAA all over.

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#67 Pdiddy105
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they gave the first one the same score. this magazine isn't a good source.

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#68 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="PrimusGears"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

we know cows, it cant be counted and doesnt make a difference cause its not exclusive. yet another great game that wont be available on the PS3

console exclusive makes about as much sense as console graphics king.

we know and that makes about as much sense as 360 not getting credit for having a game that cant be played on the PS3.

Okay. Fine. Then MLB The Show counts for PS3 since it can't be played on 360.
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#69 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="PrimusGears"][QUOTE="clone01"] console exclusive makes about as much sense as console graphics king.nervmeister
we know and that makes about as much sense as 360 not getting credit for having a game that cant be played on the PS3.

Okay. Fine. Then MLB The Show counts for PS3 since it can't be played on 360.

Neither counts for either. Thems the rules.
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#70 Lionheart08
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SW really is a revolving door of lems and cows trying to bend the rules to suit them.

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#71 Syferonik
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That source engine is very outdated i dunno wut OXM been smoking giving this a 9.5 but then again they gave Dead Space a freaking 6/10 so hmmm.
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#72 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

we know cows, it cant be counted and doesnt make a difference cause its not exclusive. yet another great game that wont be available on the PS3

console exclusive makes about as much sense as console graphics king.

They both make sense.
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#73 PrimusGears
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

we know cows, it cant be counted and doesnt make a difference cause its not exclusive. yet another great game that wont be available on the PS3

SparkyProtocol

console exclusive makes about as much sense as console graphics king.

They both make sense.

lol very true.

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#74 Lethargika
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I'm not sure I understand the concept behind "console exlusive." I'm assuming that means "exclusive to consoles", in which case, is not true because it's on PC. If it's on PC, it's not exclusive to only consoles. I might be interpreting this term incorrectly, but this new found concept seems like a bit of a twist and stretch to me. Why don't we just keep it simple....SYSTEM WARS, after all, that's the very forum we're posting in.

P.S. this is definitely a bone for the 360, but I don't think the word "exclusive" belongs in the equation as long as the game is on PC. Throwing the word console in front of exclusive seems a bit silly.

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#75 -Tretiak
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Why do people act like they're confused by what console exclusive means? It means that no other console gets the game. Simple. I don't agree with it, but it's simple.

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#76 Ace6301
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I'm not sure I understand the concept behind "console exlusive." I'm assuming that means "exclusive to consoles", in which case, is not true because it's on PC. If it's on PC, it's not exclusive to only consoles. I might be interpreting this term incorrectly, but this new found concept seems like a bit of a twist and stretch to me. Why don't we just keep it simple....SYSTEM WARS, after all, that's the very forum we're posting in.

Lethargika
They use it to refer to 360 games that are on PC but not on PS3 because the 360s only competitor is the PS3 according to lemmings now :P
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#77 ASK_Story
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I know this game will be better than the first and will get high scores. But I'm not going to get this one.
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#78 Lethargika
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Why do people act like they're confused by what console exclusive means? It means that no other console gets the game. Simple. I don't agree with it, but it's simple.

-Tretiak

Ok, but you could simply throw the word "exclusive" behind any word. Can I call the PC version of Dragon Age a "superior graphics exclusive?"

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#79 drakecool1
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Woooooohooooooooooo Count another AAA game to the 360 library, :D

360 just gets better and better

scarface_dm

that game is multiplat so it doesnt count.

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#80 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="scarface_dm"]

Woooooohooooooooooo Count another AAA game to the 360 library, :D

360 just gets better and better

drakecool1

that game is multiplat so it doesnt count.

It only counts for the poor GS community that has no PC.
I'm of the opinion that multiplayer FPS's shouldn't count on consoles at all as they're always so lacklustre compared to PC. (Controls, chat, options, communities.)

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#81 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

we know cows, it cant be counted and doesnt make a difference cause its not exclusive. yet another great game that wont be available on the PS3

SparkyProtocol
console exclusive makes about as much sense as console graphics king.

They both make sense.

not in SW. logic dies here.
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#82 imprezawrx500
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really another one for the pc. l4d just isn't right with that crippled controller. plus the x360 version is like playing on low setting with crappy frame rate.
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#83 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="WAIW"]

How is this another point for the 360?... It's not even the superior version, let alone exclusive.

MortalDecay
It's just an awesome game the PS3 will never have.

true but the thing is no 360 is need to play all these game that lems try and call console exclusives. only game like forza are x360 exclusives.
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#84 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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How is this another point for the 360?... It's not even the superior version, let alone exclusive.

WAIW

Nobody compares PS3 vs 360 vs PC. SW is more about 360 Vs. PS3.

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#85 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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really another one for the pc. l4d just isn't right with that crippled controller. plus the x360 version is like playing on low setting with crappy frame rate. imprezawrx500

Lol what? You might want to get your eyes checked.

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#86 delta3074
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well i meant compared to the PS3 not the PC. PS3 isnt getting LFD right?Trinitarian
L4D due, but yeah it's another point to the 360 as far as 'console' exclusives are concerned, thats if it scores AAA on GS, it's highly unlikely it won't, but you know GS,stranger things have happened,lol
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#87 nethernova
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]Did you? We all know what the definitions are. Even if "console exclusive" is not accepted in SW, we all know what it means. It "twists" nothing, it is a description of a very real and meaningful concept. Only someone with an agenda can't see that, or pretends not to.skektek

I'll take that as a no.

Grab your crayons I'll give you a lesson:

"console exclusive" literally means 'exclusive to consoles' (we can infer the plurality because no one console is cited). In the case of L4D it is not a "console exclusive" because A) Its also on the PC and B) It's only on one console (Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno would be examples of "console exclusives"). Maybe you mean its a "360 exclusive", but again that isn't the case either because it is also on the PC. You are trying to claim some sort of ownage based on exclusivity where there is none. L4D is a multiplat game, nothing less, nothing more. Don't try to spin it into something it is not, you just make yourself look silly.

Thank you, good sir. It's just a matter of understanding the english language. The term "console exclusive" does indeed exist but Left 4 Dead just isn't one. Final Fantasy 13 is exclusive to consoles, it's not on PC, therefore it's a console exclusive. Left 4 Dead is on PC. Calling it a console exclusive is simply wrong. People need to find another word to describe games that aren't on the PS3 if they want to claim ownage.

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#88 delta3074
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really another one for the pc. l4d just isn't right with that crippled controller. plus the x360 version is like playing on low setting with crappy frame rate. imprezawrx500
no it isn't , i have never encountered a single framerate drop on the 360 version of left4dead,have you actually played left4dead on low settings on the PC? the 360 version looks nothing like that,lol
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#89 BodyElite
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How is this another point for the 360?... It's not even the superior version, let alone exclusive.

WAIW

PC isnt in competition with the 360. Its just like Ferarri isnt in competition with Ford. One will sell a hell of a lot more than the other

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#90 wooooode
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]LFD?

is that sarcasm, I can't tell...... LFD - left for dead- left four dead - left for dead - L4D, all the same

I'm just not use to people calling it LFD

Each game has one acronym or people would get confused alot more like people calling gears of war GoW instead of GeoW, it is L4D.
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#91 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

How is this another point for the 360?... It's not even the superior version, let alone exclusive.

Nobody compares PS3 vs 360 vs PC. SW is more about 360 Vs. PS3.

Correct. That is why Microsoft and Sony release games on PC too and why Console Exclusive is used. The two dorect competitors are PS3 and 360.
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#92 PAL360
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Great score. I cant wait for next week

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#93 rogerjak
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Not the superior version + not exclusive = no point.

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#94 planbfreak4eva
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well i meant compared to the PS3 not the PC. PS3 isnt getting LFD right?Trinitarian
but pc is. so not exclusive...
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#95 With-Hatred
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buying it day 1 :D

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#96 With-Hatred
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Lemmings trying to twist definitions :roll:

skektek

Maybe it's cows doing damage control ;)

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#97 aaronmullan
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Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.
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#98 With-Hatred
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Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.aaronmullan
Minus keyboard and mouse and user created maps, it's the same thing.

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#99 sikanderahmed
Member since 2007 • 5444 Posts

Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.aaronmullan

i wouldnt say that, while i dont have any problem playing L4D2 with KB/M i still prefer controller coz its better + the graphics are SLIGHTLY worse on 360 so i dont see how you can call it a vastly inferior version

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#100 h575309
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Yes, this is going to be a great multiplat. Too bad the 360 gets the vastly inferior version.aaronmullan
Vastly?