SystemWars Monthly 2.0 - June 2010 (It's About Time Edition - 56k Warning)

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[QUOTE="NatalataN"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Only one 360 game was covered in SWM this month... ?siLVURcross
more then enough. with those AA and A scores let alone letting the E's out but thats just a matter of opinion these days at least until the agency, oh and FF forteen

You've lost me.

I think he's referring to something saying that 1 360 game is more than enough (saying that having anything 360-related is wrong) and that there shouldn't be any emphasis on A-AA games and I'm guessing the "E" is for exclusive and he's saying something about PC/360 multiplats shouldn't count as exclusives but it doesn't matter because its a matter of opinion.

Then, he says this will change when The Agency and FF14 comes out because they are PC/PS3 multiplats and Cows will use them as ownage?

I don't know that was just my shot in the dark

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"] You've lost me.789shadow

I think he's referring to something saying that 1 360 game is more than enough (saying that having anything 360-related is wrong) and that there shouldn't be any emphasis on A-AA games and I'm guessing the "E" is for exclusive and he's saying something about PC/360 multiplats shouldn't count as exclusives but it doesn't matter because its a matter of opinion.

Then, he says this will change when The Agency and FF14 comes out because they are PC/PS3 multiplats and Cows will use them as ownage?

I don't know that was just my shot in the dark

I think he's talking about cherry pie.

Mmmmm, cherry pie.

lol for all we know, you could be spot on

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#154 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I think he's referring to something saying that 1 360 game is more than enough (saying that having anything 360-related is wrong) and that there shouldn't be any emphasis on A-AA games and I'm guessing the "E" is for exclusive and he's saying something about PC/360 multiplats shouldn't count as exclusives but it doesn't matter because its a matter of opinion.

Then, he says this will change when The Agency and FF14 comes out because they are PC/PS3 multiplats and Cows will use them as ownage?

I don't know that was just my shot in the dark

BPoole96

I think he's talking about cherry pie.

Mmmmm, cherry pie.

lol for all we know, you could be spot on

And I haven't even tasted cherry pie. :P

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#155 Silverbond
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On a 5000x more serious note, where's my Halo? :x

Because, you know... I like my Halo.

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#156 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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On a 5000x more serious note, where's my Halo? :x

Because, you know... I like my Halo.

Silverbond
That's a good point. We have no Halo this issue. OMG WE SO BIASED. lulz.
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#157 jg4xchamp
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I got lazy and didn't write one up. I'll make sure I do a Halo related article every month for you Silverbond. *gasp* maybe I should ask willy to do me the honor of co-writing an article with the legendary willy about Halo. It shall be majestic.
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

On a 5000x more serious note, where's my Halo? :x

Because, you know... I like my Halo.

Stevo_the_gamer

That's a good point. We have no Halo this issue. OMG WE SO BIASED. lulz.

Next issue, the interview with Cortana ;) :P

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#161 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.

None of Sony's games were leaked before e3 they were announced (more false information in a SW mag :roll: ). And who cares if they were announced a week before e3 the first time we got to see the game play was at e3. Many sites (they'reare places out side SW) thoughtSony's e3 was only slightly below Nintendo who pulled the win with 3ds.

Its clear to see who the leading faction running this mag is. :roll:

Respawn-d

Contradiction? I see one.

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srry but there is way too much 360 coverage and not enough ps3NatalataN

You have to remember, none of the writers actually get copies of games to review for free, we have to literally go and spend our money for these titles.

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#163 h575309
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Im pretty sure I see more Wii and PC articles than 360. Data mine for teh bias!

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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.

None of Sony's games were leaked before e3 they were announced (more false information in a SW mag :roll: ). And who cares if they were announced a week before e3 the first time we got to see the game play was at e3. Many sites (they'reare places out side SW) thoughtSony's e3 was only slightly below Nintendo who pulled the win with 3ds.

Its clear to see who the leading faction running this mag is. :roll:

It's rare someone contradicts themselves within two sentences.

i dont get it hes supporting ps3 so whats the problem
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.

None of Sony's games were leaked before e3 they were announced (more false information in a SW mag :roll: ). And who cares if they were announced a week before e3 the first time we got to see the game play was at e3. Many sites (they'reare places out side SW) thoughtSony's e3 was only slightly below Nintendo who pulled the win with 3ds.

Its clear to see who the leading faction running this mag is. :roll:

789shadow

It's rare someone contradicts themselves within two sentences.

I pointed that out already, dammit Shadow! :P
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Perhaps some people don't understand that it's okay to disagree with what they read in a publication. SWM is just like any other magazine, and it's rare to see 100% of the population like or agree with every published word.

And remember, observing the way in which people disagree or criticize is just as important as observing what it is they're criticizing. The more cantankerous the tone, the less important the criticism.

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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.

None of Sony's games were leaked before e3 they were announced (more false information in a SW mag :roll: ). And who cares if they were announced a week before e3 the first time we got to see the game play was at e3. Many sites (they'reare places out side SW) thoughtSony's e3 was only slightly below Nintendo who pulled the win with 3ds.

Its clear to see who the leading faction running this mag is. :roll:

siLVURcross

Contradiction? I see one.

Where exactly ?
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.

None of Sony's games were leaked before e3 they were announced (more false information in a SW mag :roll: ). And who cares if they were announced a week before e3 the first time we got to see the game play was at e3. Many sites (they'reare places out side SW) thoughtSony's e3 was only slightly below Nintendo who pulled the win with 3ds.

Its clear to see who the leading faction running this mag is. :roll:

siLVURcross

Contradiction? I see one.

It always comes down to people see bias when they can't reconcile that others would have an opinion and viewpoint not in agreement with their own. Because only their own matters :rolls:

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.

None of Sony's games were leaked before e3 they were announced (more false information in a SW mag :roll: ). And who cares if they were announced a week before e3 the first time we got to see the game play was at e3. Many sites (they'reare places out side SW) thoughtSony's e3 was only slightly below Nintendo who pulled the win with 3ds.

Its clear to see who the leading faction running this mag is. :roll:

Respawn-d

Contradiction? I see one.

Where exactly ?

Why on earth would Sony allow big new sequels to be announced so close to E3? Why would they not keep them under wraps for just a few more days, thereby hightening the impact of their announcement? As it stood, it was just "Oh, hey, it's Little Big Planet 2" instead of "OH MY GOD IT'S LITTLE BIG PLANET 2 OMG!!!!!!!!!"

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.

None of Sony's games were leaked before e3 they were announced (more false information in a SW mag :roll: ). And who cares if they were announced a week before e3 the first time we got to see the game play was at e3. Many sites (they'reare places out side SW) thoughtSony's e3 was only slightly below Nintendo who pulled the win with 3ds.

Its clear to see who the leading faction running this mag is. :roll:

Respawn-d

Contradiction? I see one.

Where exactly ?

Where I bolded.
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#178 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]

Contradiction? I see one.

siLVURcross

Where exactly ?

Where I bolded.

They were announced officially by Sony not leaked. There is no contradiction

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#179 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]

Contradiction? I see one.

789shadow

Where exactly ?

Why on earth would Sony allow big new sequels to be announced so close to E3? Why would they not keep them under wraps for just a few more days, thereby hightening the impact of their announcement? As it stood, it was just "Oh, hey, it's Little Big Planet 2" instead of "OH MY GOD IT'S LITTLE BIG PLANET 2 OMG!!!!!!!!!"

Hype. And even if its not the fact is they were officially announced by Sony and not leaked.
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#180 Aboogie5
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i see mostly nintendo... other wise great job.

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#181 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"] Where exactly ? Respawn-d

Why on earth would Sony allow big new sequels to be announced so close to E3? Why would they not keep them under wraps for just a few more days, thereby hightening the impact of their announcement? As it stood, it was just "Oh, hey, it's Little Big Planet 2" instead of "OH MY GOD IT'S LITTLE BIG PLANET 2 OMG!!!!!!!!!"

Hype. And even if its not the fact is they were officially announced by Sony and not leaked.

Twisted Metal was leaked, which was why Jaffe was vehemently denying that he was making the game. And on topic, great issue as usual, guys. Love it!
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Why on earth would Sony allow big new sequels to be announced so close to E3? Why would they not keep them under wraps for just a few more days, thereby hightening the impact of their announcement? As it stood, it was just "Oh, hey, it's Little Big Planet 2" instead of "OH MY GOD IT'S LITTLE BIG PLANET 2 OMG!!!!!!!!!"

DarkLink77

Hype. And even if its not the fact is they were officially announced by Sony and not leaked.

Twisted Metal was leaked, which was why Jaffe was vehemently denying that he was making the game. And on topic, great issue as usual, guys. Love it!

Twisted Metal has been rumored for years but never fully leaked till its announcement

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#183 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Respawn-d"] Hype. And even if its not the fact is they were officially announced by Sony and not leaked. Foliage-King

Twisted Metal was leaked, which was why Jaffe was vehemently denying that he was making the game. And on topic, great issue as usual, guys. Love it!

Twisted Metal has been rumored for years but never fully leaked till its announcement

It was leaked, and was even posted on System Wars.

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#184 fabz_95
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i see mostly nintendo... other wise great job.

Aboogie5
Thanks. Remember, it's hard for us to have equal content for all platforms since we can only review games that SWM members own. We'd love to have more (for example) PS3 reviews, we just need a reviewer who has plenty of PS3 games and is willing to review one or two every month.
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#185 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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A friendly reminder:

If you think *insert system here* should get more attention, you are more than welcome to submit a review, editorial etc.

We are a limited ammount of people with a limited ammount of time and games, so any difference inthe way each system is covered is merely circumstantial, and in no way intentional.

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#186 Willy105
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="NatalataN"] 1. i think he has very valid points, which have already been adressed by wasdie who informed us that the reason is because poor ppl buy 360's so its ok to compromise the integrity of the editorialsNatalataN

Alright, you have got to be ****ing kidding me.

also willy mentioned earlier that bias is OK with SWM :lol:

Yeah, in SWM 1.0, not SWM 2.0. I originally intended the magazine to be like Daily Show/Colbert Report, that satirizes the game industry as a real life System War. But my writers thought it would be best to be a serious magazine, and they took off and never looked back.
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[QUOTE="NatalataN"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Alright, you have got to be ****ing kidding me.

Willy105

also willy mentioned earlier that bias is OK with SWM :lol:

Yeah, in SWM 1.0, not SWM 2.0. I originally intended the magazine to be like Daily Show/Colbert Report, that satirizes the game industry as a real life System War. But my writers thought it would be best to be a serious magazine, and they took off and never looked back.

Should we insert the "Internet: Serious Business" pic at this point? ;) :P

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#188 HarlockJC
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i see mostly nintendo... other wise great job.

Aboogie5

That a given when most Mega Man games have been on Nintendo consoles.

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#189 fabz_95
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[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]

i see mostly nintendo... other wise great job.

HarlockJC

That a given when most Mega Man games have been on Nintendo consoles.

Haha, yeah. Sorry to whoever feels that there is too much Nintendo, previous feedback suggested we didn't have enough Nintendo so I guess we tried to make sure we didn't receive those complaints again.

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LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.Respawn-d

You're right, if it was average, then it would have been at least somewhat enjoyable. Unfortunately, it was not very enjoyable. Some of the SWM members explained some of my thoughts already so it would be redundant to repeat myself.

Besides, musicalmac already touched on this point anyways. Touche Mr. Mac.

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#191 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

LOL at the Sony e3 description. Sonys e3 was far from average.Stevo_the_gamer

You're right, if it was average, then it would have been at least somewhat enjoyable. Unfortunately, it was not very enjoyable. Some of the SWM members explained some of my thoughts already so it would be redundant to repeat myself.

Besides, musicalmac already touched on this point anyways. Touche Mr. Mac.

Or better yet, we all submitted our reviews of all the E3 conferences. It's not too late either, as the latest magazine release is still active. How about you post right here and share your thoughts on the 3 big shows, Respawn-d? After all, the magazine consists of everybody's say :)

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AdobeArtist, I second your proposition. if one disagrees with any of SWM assertions or opinions, showcase your retort against them by providing your own views.
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#194 Sooshy
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Wow! This magazine has come a long way. Really awesome work, guys!
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#195 fabz_95
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Wow! This magazine has come a long way. Really awesome work, guys!Sooshy
Thanks! It's great looking at our older issues and seeing how far we've come.
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"]Wow! This magazine has come a long way. Really awesome work, guys!fabz_95
Thanks! It's great looking at our older issues and seeing how far we've come.

The typed up layouts are a far improvement from the crayon writings :P

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#197 mitu123
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How do you guys do it?

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How do you guys do it?

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Plenty of time, some money, and a lot of caffeine.
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#199 timmy00
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Great issue. Always a joy reading it.

Parasite Eve was one of my favorite games for the PS1. Still love playing it today. Though the sequal was better.

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#200 Willy105
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

How do you guys do it?

Stevo_the_gamer
Plenty of time, some money, and a lot of caffeine.

I did for free, in three hours, in the day it was meant to be posted. Without caffeine.