PSM gives Warhawk a 6.5 and Lair a 5.0!!!!!! WTF??????????

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#1 CB4McGusto
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http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=93162

what that guy ^^ said he saw. If true then I don't know cows, you might have to wait for Haze, Ratchet, Uncharted, and UT3. Heavenly Sword seems to be getting some wishy washy reviews, so I don't know about that game. Anybody seen the magazine yet?

PSM = Playstation Magazine btw..... :?

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#2 CB4McGusto
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Oh yea, check out some of the fanboys replies on that page, there hilarious!

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:|

:lol:

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#4 ragrdoll21
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PSM doesn't gloss things over, they normally tell it like it is. Thing is, if they give a good review most lems will dismiss it because it came from PSM. All of a sudden only the bad reviews count. I'm buying both games by the way.
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#5 JPOBS
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I've been expecting lair to flop for ages. i thought it would get a 7 on gamespot but now? those games are gonna blinx rofl.

could be fake though.

edit: no there is a scan there. rofl. warhawk killzone'd :lol:

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#6 Koopaknight29
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Wow, and from their own syndicated magazine too...

Are those games that bad? Ouch. What went wrong there?Not that I was actually going to buy them. Hell I don't even own a PS3. I'm just wondering why.

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#7 No_Talent_Dev
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There is a magazine scan in that thread but you can't post it
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#8 da1on2
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So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

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#9 ragrdoll21
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Wow, and from their own syndicated magazine too...

Are those games that bad? Ouch. What went wrong there?Not that I was actually going to buy them. Hell I don't even own a PS3. I'm just wondering why.

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PSM is a independent Magazine.They say what they want,when they want.
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#10 mlbslugger86
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whoa..warhawks 6.5? i saw that coming, what i didn't expect was Lairs 5.0
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#11 ragrdoll21
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So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

da1on2
Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(
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#12 cosmostein77
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So yet again I ask myself, why did I get a PS3?

Other then being a Blu-Ray player which is handy when do the games start coming?

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#13 Shazenab
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Factor 5 really shouldn't have left Nintendo. It'll be the death of them =[.
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#14 FLamezero991
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Yeah, EGM gave them bad reviews as well. With all the hype Lair was getting I would have assumed they would have atleast tried to make it look good. Oh well, MGS4 will redeem the PS3, RIGHT??
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#15 Thanatos1337
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You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

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#16 MegaPigeon
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So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

da1on2

It's a crappy score coming from one of the most biased sources available. I believe these guys said Killzone killed the competition and gave it 9/10.... :|

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#17 FLamezero991
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[QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

ragrdoll21

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....dont forget PSM is biased toward PS games so what does that tell you???

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#18 ironwarrior2
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Yeah, Lair looked terrible on the spot
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#19 Devouring_One
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i didnt think lair was going to be good. warhawk sounds like a big disaster right now
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#20 ragrdoll21
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You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

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PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(
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#21 nintendo-4life
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So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

da1on2
exactly :)
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#22 Thanatos1337
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[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

ragrdoll21

PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(

They rate playstation games, and they know that if they rate higher, it may encourage sales of sony products, and the sale of sony products drive the sale of that magazine.

I call that an association.

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This is interesting. It is true that these aren't GS scores, but is this an indication of things to come or just a reviewer having a bad day? Only time will tell. :?
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#24 FLamezero991
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i didnt think lair was going to be good. warhawk sounds like a big disaster right nowDevouring_One

If Lair wasn't good I have a stange feeling warhawk isn't either.....

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#25 Nwebrme
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To all you guys making references to PSM being a PlayStation Magazine. The last time I bought an issue (3 years ago :P) PSM was not affiliated in any way with Sony unlike NP with Nintendo, I think, so one can't really complain that their reviews are biased any way. Maybe they aren't the most credible source but that's because I only have faifth in IGN for the most part and a little in GS :P.
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#26 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

FLamezero991

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....

I never said they weren't a creatable mag.(I subscribe to both of them plus Game informer)It just seems like lems/sheep only use them if it's a bad review,thats what we're talking about.Learn to read......
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Oh yea, check out some of the fanboys replies on that page, there hilarious!

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Oh yea, the people who have played it are making fanboy comments, not you whom I doubt have a PS3.
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#28 FLamezero991
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

Thanatos1337

PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(

They rate playstation games, and they know that if they rate higher, it may encourage sales of sony products, and the sale of sony products drive the sale of that magazine.

I call that an association.

I think he is trying to say that they are ONLY associated by name, not in any other way. Although Sony does pay them to promote their games, Im not so sure about rating them.....

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warhawk 6.5?????? bs!!!

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#30 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

Thanatos1337

PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(

They rate playstation games, and they know that if they rate higher, it may encourage sales of sony products, and the sale of sony products drive the sale of that magazine.

I call that an association.

lol....How in the hell can the sell of Sony products help sell their Mag?Thats the dumbest conspiracy theory I've ever heard!Does PSM come packaged with every Sony game?:roll:
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#31 bigLLL
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how strange I was in the beta for warhawk as well, and I luved it!!! and lair flopping so hard is quite shocking, it's weird though because ill probably enjoy the heck out of them both, I know I will fo sure with warhawk
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

FLamezero991

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....dont forget PSM is biased toward PS games so what does that tell you???

I was actually mainly talking about WarHawk, and how are they biased toward PS games yet thats the only type of games they rate:?

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#33 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

FLamezero991

PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(

They rate playstation games, and they know that if they rate higher, it may encourage sales of sony products, and the sale of sony products drive the sale of that magazine.

I call that an association.

I think he is trying to say that they are ONLY associated by name, not in any other way. Although Sony does pay them to promote their games, Im not so sure about rating them.....

They have Ads for 360 games in their Mag 2....hell for about 2months straight Gears had the back cover!
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#34 FLamezero991
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[QUOTE="FLamezero991"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

ragrdoll21

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....

I never said they weren't a creatable mag.(I subscribe to both of them plus Game informer)It just seems like lems/sheep only use them if it's a bad review,thats what we're talking about.Learn to read......

Oops, sorry. I agree though, people are very wish washy and have selective hearing.I personally was thinking Lair was gonna be atleast an A title.....

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#35 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="FLamezero991"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

FLamezero991

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....

I never said they weren't a creatable mag.(I subscribe to both of them plus Game informer)It just seems like lems/sheep only use them if it's a bad review,thats what we're talking about.Learn to read......

Oops, sorry. I agree though, people are very wish washy and have selective hearing.I personally was thinking Lair was gonna be atleast an A title.....

NP it happens...I'm still picking up the games.:)
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[QUOTE="FLamezero991"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

da1on2

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....dont forget PSM is biased toward PS games so what does that tell you???

I was actually mainly talking about WarHawk, and how are they biased toward PS games yet thats the only type of games they rate:?

so you agree that MP3 deserved the 10/10 from nintendo power?
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#37 FLamezero991
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[QUOTE="FLamezero991"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

ragrdoll21

PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(

They rate playstation games, and they know that if they rate higher, it may encourage sales of sony products, and the sale of sony products drive the sale of that magazine.

I call that an association.

I think he is trying to say that they are ONLY associated by name, not in any other way. Although Sony does pay them to promote their games, Im not so sure about rating them.....

They have Ads for 360 games in their Mag 2....hell for about 2months straight Gears had the back cover!

Its also a magazine dedicated to PS, even thought MS and Nintendo market in their Magazine PS is their main focus and brings popularity to the name and franchise....

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#38 Thanatos1337
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[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

ragrdoll21

PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(

They rate playstation games, and they know that if they rate higher, it may encourage sales of sony products, and the sale of sony products drive the sale of that magazine.

I call that an association.

lol....How in the hell can the sell of Sony products help sell their Mag?Thats the dumbest conspiracy theory I've ever heard!Does PSM come packaged with every Sony game?:roll:

I guess I have to hold your hand while going through this......if sony sells more products, it means more people within the sony fanbase means more potential buyers of the magazine.

For example if sony's systems have sold 100 million, and M$'s systems have sold 10 million, which official magazine will sell better?

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I'm really surprised by the Warhawk score. The beta was really fun, and critics have been nothing but positive about the game when talking about it in previews. I expected the game to be scoring 8s. Hopefully this is just a one off review.

As for Liar. I was excited for that game when it was first announced all those years ago, but every time I see gameplay of it the game just looks boring. I didn't expect it to be scoring 5s but I'm not expecting much from this game when it is released.

If both these games do end up flopping then that's gonna be tough on cows that only own PS3s.

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Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....dont forget PSM is biased toward PS games so what does that tell you???

FLamezero991

but they only review PS gmes???

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[QUOTE="FLamezero991"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

ragrdoll21

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....

I never said they weren't a creatable mag.(I subscribe to both of them plus Game informer)It just seems like lems/sheep only use them if it's a bad review,thats what we're talking about.Learn to read......

look here's the deal:

mainly some mags review games and give them HIGHER scores for advertisment, this is true and we have seen it many times before, to make things clearer, think of gamespot giving EVERY game that lands on the PS3 2 extra points for no reason what so ever, if a game is originally scored a 7.5, it would be a 9.5, and taking away scores will not do any good, so they only add.... now using that logic if a game showed up to us scoring a 4.5... the original score would be..................
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[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

ragrdoll21

PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(

They rate playstation games, and they know that if they rate higher, it may encourage sales of sony products, and the sale of sony products drive the sale of that magazine.

I call that an association.

lol....How in the hell can the sell of Sony products help sell their Mag?Thats the dumbest conspiracy theory I've ever heard!Does PSM come packaged with every Sony game?:roll:

isnt it obvious the more sony products out the more potential buyers of a sony related games magasine..... :|

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#43 SMR-Venom
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^!GASP!^ :o I didnt expect Lair to be all that great but not that bad either.

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#44 bulletmath
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LMAO even crap like Blue Dragon is getting good reviews fromthe single format magazines

Lair and Warhawk must be REAL bad

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i don't believe him!
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#46 deviates1080
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So even when a Playstation magazine gives them bad reviews they are being called 'biased' or bad reviews by the PS3 owners? lol, hilarious.

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#47 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="FLamezero991"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

nintendo-4life

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....

I never said they weren't a creatable mag.(I subscribe to both of them plus Game informer)It just seems like lems/sheep only use them if it's a bad review,thats what we're talking about.Learn to read......

look here's the deal:

mainly some mags review games and give them HIGHER scores for advertisment, this is true and we have seen it many times before, to make things clearer, think of gamespot giving EVERY game that lands on the PS3 2 extra points for no reason what so ever, if a game is originally scored a 7.5, it would be a 9.5, and taking away scores will not do any good, so they only add.... now using that logic if a game showed up to us scoring a 4.5... the original score would be..................

?what the hell.......I can tell you've never read one damn article of PSM.They don't take bribes and they bash OPM for doing so.You're barking up the wrong tree!
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#48 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="FLamezero991"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="da1on2"]

So good reviews from playstation sources= not credible but bad ones = flop?

Lets wait for GS

ragrdoll21

Yeah,thats what it seems like.:(

Whats the diffence?? EGM and PSM give it bad reviews, if you wanna buy it buy it but I believe they are still credible sources....

I never said they weren't a creatable mag.(I subscribe to both of them plus Game informer)It just seems like lems/sheep only use them if it's a bad review,thats what we're talking about.Learn to read......

look here's the deal:

mainly some mags review games and give them HIGHER scores for advertisment, this is true and we have seen it many times before, to make things clearer, think of gamespot giving EVERY game that lands on the PS3 2 extra points for no reason what so ever, if a game is originally scored a 7.5, it would be a 9.5, and taking away scores will not do any good, so they only add.... now using that logic if a game showed up to us scoring a 4.5... the original score would be..................

?what the hell.......I can tell you've never read one damn article of PSM.They don't take bribes and they bash OPM for doing so.You're barking up the wrong tree!

read the very first quote...... you're not seeing the big picture.
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#49 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"]

You also have to keep in mind, because psm is associated with sony, they are probably overating these games.

Just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting.

muppet1010

PSM is NOT associated with Sony in any way, shape or form.....talking out of your butt FTL!:(

They rate playstation games, and they know that if they rate higher, it may encourage sales of sony products, and the sale of sony products drive the sale of that magazine.

I call that an association.

lol....How in the hell can the sell of Sony products help sell their Mag?Thats the dumbest conspiracy theory I've ever heard!Does PSM come packaged with every Sony game?:roll:

isnt it obvious the more sony products out the more potential buyers of a sony related games magasine..... :|

No it isn't!So should GS just rate all PS3 games AAA,that wont hurt their reputation(if they have one)@ all right?You're grasping for straws.
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#50 niall077
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so what im still getting warhawk