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Wait a minute, so cows went from "xbox gamepass is trash and will never be viable" to "ps gamepass is better"?

@rmpumper: I dunno, all I know is I'm keeping my 1st tier ps+ so I can play online, I'm good with that. Nothing else interest me with the other tiers or with gamepass.

@rmpumper: I dunno, all I know is I'm keeping my 1st tier ps+ so I can play online, I'm good with that. Nothing else interest me with the other tiers or with gamepass.

As someone who isn't interested in gamepass (despite being able to repeatedly get 3 months for $1), it's not even funny how little shit I give about Sony pass.

As long as I'm not forced into anything else, I'll continue to buy the games I want when I want them. Nintendo Switch is probably the last console I pay for a service for.

PlayStation old game pass is shit.

@simple-facts: Is it as shit as all your post Bluestar or not even close to that shit?

HaH

Cows move the goal posts from quality to quantity and back again so often it'll make your head spin.

Damage control one (quality): "YES, WE'RE NOT GETTING DAY 1 RELEASES, because Jim Ryan lied about it effecting the quality... Despite the fact that GT7 is always online and Sony tried to milk us dry with the in-game economy... Bu bu dat quality".

Damage control two (quantity): "Teh 800 games... Including PS1, PS2 and PSP games, you know, because BC is awesome now Sony are charging us for it, so lets pad out those numbers". You have to pull out a bunch of ancient games the average gamer will NEVER play to pad the numbers?

You keep saying the average PS gamer buys subscriptions yearly, well the average gamer is also not playing ancient PS1, PS2 and PSP games.

3D games from the 5th and 6th gen are not easy to get into on ANY platform, even the PC. Most 3D PS1 and PS2 games have not aged well AT ALL, you have to be hardcore into retro gaming to be able to play them.

And what happened to the other cow damage control of "we buy new systems for new games"?

Dont really see a problem with this. It will make money for Sony. Why the hate?

Cows getting a good butt kicking here. lol :P

@SecretPolice: lol playing make believe today?

@SolidGame_basic:

Always. lol :P

@HalcyonScarlet: So you list GT7 as the poster boy for Sony quality? Something tells me you're not being genuine.

It was literally the last Sony game to come out. :-S

And the irony of cows making Halo Infinite the poster boy for Gamepass. But I can't call out GT7?

New stuff scares people.

Sony scares Lems 🤣

You struck a nerve.

Sorry guy, this is just a bad take.

• The backwards compatibility on the PS service is mix of downloadable and streaming only (and they haven't specified what applies to what game). On Game Pass Ultimate, everything is downloadable, and some of those things are cloud.
• Price is in PS's favor. If you pay the monthly price you are just giving PS money for no reason. The yearly fee is the way to go, and honestly MS should do the same.
• Your last point makes NO sense, as MS's offering a better deal in terms of content, options, and versatility. GPU puts Sony's offering in a bad light.

Honestly, PS Plus Premium shouldn't be compared to GPU, it should only be compared to the basic PC or Console GP plan ($10 per month / $120 per year). If you do that, the PS's offering is comparable to MS's, and in some ways it may be better. But GPU encompasses console, Mobile, and PC, where you can download and/or stream games, get monthly free games, access to XBL services, and EA Play. Not to mention the day one games and the coming deals with other services (Ubisoft games are said to be on the way).

PS's subscription service is kind of DOA in terms of offerings in the wake of GPU.

@Pedro: It's all very lazy imo. Sony literally just consolidated services and adjusted the subscription... And demos. :-S

Feels like cows keep building up Sony and Sony delivers some flaccid products.

HERE COMES THE PLAYSTATION SHOWCASE 2021... there goes the playsation showcase 2021

HERE COMES 2 OUT 3 OF PS 2022 BIG AAAES... there goes 2 out of 3 of ps 2022 big aaaes

HERE COMES PLAYSTATIONS GAMEPASS KILLER... there goes playstations gamepass killer

It's only March 2022, Sony's already blown their load and flopped for the year.

@HalcyonScarlet:

Pointing out all that is going make you a target. keep your head on a swivel, cows don't play fair and will lash out when you least expect it...

lolol :P

I don't think that price advantage is a huge deal in that, it's something that wouldn't take a lot of effort for MS to be competitive with. They used to have 6 month and yearly Gamepass offerings, maybe this will encourage MS to take another look at that.

I just mean it's not the hardest thing MS is going to have to deal with. But as it stands, the yearly subscription cost is in PSs favour.

It's possible that MS went to monthly and 3 monthly as they were considering adjusting the price. But maybe these new price points from PS will deter any rise in price for Gamepass. So it could be a good thing.

Your thinking to big my guy. Lol! Most people who follow gaming / participate in the console war just don't have the history, or the ability to think that long term and pay attention to trends.

Still can't play PS3 games natively which is a shame but it was obvious sony had to do something. I would have thought would have just added ps plus and ps now together and be done with it.

Technically they did.

Ah, that's actually a good point. Touché. You make a good point. We'll see!

Put that monacle on and lets make some investments my find sir!

Ultimate has substantially more stuff than the PS offering.

The real question is, will Lems keep parading the total Game Pass sub numbers around this board, or is that something to ignore now?

you know whats funny, the biggest PS5 hit to release is a MS game, deathloop. And ghostwire tokyo, another MS published game.

buddy, even the basic GP service gets day and date access. I didn't know cloud streaming was only for GPU, but thats definitely a bonus for GPU subscribers. I said before that the PS Plus service is good as a stand alone product, but its obvious they aren't trying too hard to compete with GP. The PS Plus service is worth while as you do get games like spiderman, miles morales, returnal for free. You would normally pay $70 plus tax for each of these games. So thats a BIG savings right there. For ps5 fans, the subscription service might make sense on a month to month basis.

My other point about the ps plus tiers being bad for GP is also true. Do you know how businesses work? They only offer better services when theres COMPETITION. This service by sony might make sense for ps5 fans, but in the broader subscription market, its actually pretty ass compared to GPU. If MS isn't feeling any pressure to keep prices low on GPU, why should they? They can go ahead and slowly raise prices without any fear.

Netflix always thinks twice now about raising prices because disney plus is there, and a bunch of other streaming services. Without these other COMPETING services, netflix would probably cost $25/month right now. Its not any different for microsoft and game pass. End of the day competition is what matters.

why would anyone ignore total Game Pass numbers?..

it seems Game Pass no longer has a direct competitor in terms of one-for-one sub counts (formerly 3 million vs 25 million).. Sony is just going to rely on PS Plus, which is the more popular and established service.. honestly, it's their best move at this point.. but PlayStation Network Plus has historically been compared to Xbox Live Gold; not Game Pass..

I mean, other than the most rabid cow or fakest "concerned" fan, I doubt anyone is dumb enough to believe that "50 million PS+" users suddenly means there are more PS+ Extra/Premium subscribers than the 25 million Game Pass and Game Pass Ultimate subscribers.. this is just a play to hide the poor PS Now numbers (something you're usually "concerned" about 🤷🏽‍♂️)..

Ultimately, unless Sony is going to provide PS Plus subscription numbers per tier for Essential, Extra, and Premium, there's no longer any direct comparison to be made to Game Pass numbers.. maybe that will change if/when Microsoft fully dissolves the paywall of Xbox Live Gold into Game Pass but i doubt that's happening anytime soon..

I think it needs to be clarified and stressed that backwards compatibility and Game Pass are completely separate things within the Xbox ecosystem..

if you have already purchased a supported OG Xbox, Xbox 360, and/or Xbox One title, that game simply works on the Xbox Series X|S for free, natively, and, in many cases, with improved resolution and performance..

by contrast, Sony is placing backwards compatibility for PS1, PS2, and PS3 games behind the paywall of PS+ Premium.. this is regardless of if you already own those games and the entire PS3 library is streaming only..

I think the real question is: Do cows want and support day-and-date releases into PS Plus Extra/Premium for 3rd party titles?..

if so, why not Sony 1st party titles?.. 🤔

@blaznwiipspman1: And the cows would have loved Deathloop if it wasn't a MS game. XD

Hopefully I can play Persona 4 Golden

@Antwan3K: Are we ever gonna get a breakdown of Game Pass Xbox vs PC vs Ultimate?

You’re already asking for more transparency from PS+ than you’ve EVER asked from Xbox…

@girlusocrazy: Couldn't agree more

I guess I would have to be classified as a "cow", seeing how I've only owned Sony consoles since the og Xbox, but this "news" is about as anemic as it gets.

I guess it depends a little on what the titles are, but out of those 400+, 340+, 700+ games, how many are current ps+ and ps now games? There's already been 700+ games released on PS+, and many of the 800+ on PS now are on PS+! And the vast majority of those, aren't worth your time. This could be said about any console, but out the thousands of games on PlayStation consoles, about 100 or less are actually exceptional. The next 100-200 games could be good, but after that, you're digging through the trash. So unless they're just scooping up the cream (that hot white cream), you're going to be picking cherries out of dumpster sludge.

It's like a battered women's shelter up in this mofo. Remember when demos and online were free? I do! Now everyone is bragging because their boyfriend only leaves bruises under the clothes!

yes, it would definitely be interesting to see a breakdown of Game Pass vs Game Pass Ultimate vs Game Pass PC vs Cloud Streaming and more.. will we ever get those numbers?.. probably not..

the overall number of Game Pass subscribers is indeed provided though and that's arguably the most important metric.. and that's actually way more transparent than completely hiding PS Now numbers within PlayStation Plus "tiers"..

so, do you think we'll get a breakdown of each tier of subscribers across Essential, Extra, and Premium?.. or do you think Sony will just hide those numbers within the general metric of "PlayStation Plus Subscribers"?..

if it's the latter, are you "concerned"?.. 🤔

@girlusocrazy:

Then you wouldn't need Playstation Plus if you could play digital PS1, PS2, PSP games. I have a ton I would like to just download if Sony had that option on PS4.

So 2 tiers are Ok, but 3 are too diabolical for you?

Some of those PS1 and PS2 classics are vastly better than anything crappy Xbox first party ever offered on Gamepass

@goldenelementxl: Two? Xbox has three.

@mowgly1: Leave it to you to say something stupid 🤣

Game Pass is separated into 3 "tiers" currently: Game Pass for console, Game Pass for PC, and Game Pass Ultimate.. the overall subscriber count for Game Pass is 25 million..

PlayStation Plus is separated into 3 tiers currently: PlayStation Plus Essential, PlayStation Plus Extra, and PlayStation Plus Premium.. the overall count for PlayStation Plus is roughly 50 million..

But what happened to PlayStation Now?.. we used to know that there were 3 million subscribers before the PS Now rebrand to "PS+ Extra/Premium".. and now that it's been folded into PS+, those numbers are now hidden..

but hey, i see your selective critical thinking has kicked in.. let me put this in terms you'd understand:

Imagine if Microsoft decided to rebrand Game Pass into an Xbox Live tier called "Xbox Live Platinum" and simply claimed that they have over 100 million Xbox Live users across Silver, Gold, and Platinum; never mentioning "Game Pass" numbers again..

We all know you'd be the first one "concerned" about how shady that looks and how Xbox is fudging numbers.. but with PS Plus, we aren't seeing that same energy for some reason.. 🤔 quite the opposite actually.. 🤡

Then Xbox has 4 tiers.🤔

yeah, the entire concept of Xbox Live Gold is completely outdated.. I anticipate Gold going away down the line, depending on Game Pass adoption..

@Antwan3K: Gold needs to die. It is overpriced and dated.

@Antwan3K: Poor guy…

PS hasn’t published a number and the service isn’t even technically out yet. But here you are, talking about how unfair it is… The one metric you had, reduced to meaninglessness

PS Now gets rolled into the top 2 tiers of PS+. One clearly better than the other. But this will blow the service up for sure

And XBL has a free tier. Sure there are 100 million active accounts, but we don’t know how many of those are paid. All PS+ tiers have a cost. But you don’t care about money, so “active users” still works I guess. 🤡🙄🤡

At $120 a year, PS Plus Premium is a steal. Talk about value!