Playstation Plus tiers are here! Current PS Now members get a free upgrade to Premium!

How about to look at official price. So, GPU annual is 180$ right? You want to spin that fact??

at some point, you're gonna need to stop worrying about a 2 Trillion dollar company's finances as your primary point of concern.. Microsoft, Xbox, and 3rd party developers/publishers all seem to be very happy with Game Pass.. that's really all that matters at this juncture..

and what results from the "opposite strategy" are you anticipating?.. PS Now has been on the market for 7 years and only garnered around 3 million subscribers.. by contrast, Game Pass has 25 million subscribers in 5 years.. it seems the "growth stage" is working relatively well.. 🤷🏽‍♂️

and ultimately, PlayStation's strategy hasn't changed at all with this rebrand.. PS Now is still an afterthought in favor of the traditional per-unit sale of software (nothing wrong with that, btw. it's working for them) .. but literally nothing has changed with this announcement other than the idea that the relatively embarrassing PS Now sub numbers can be hidden among the respectible PS+ numbers.. yet, here you are talking about transparency?..

if Sony is as transparent as you say, i guess we'll be seeing a breakdown of the subscriber numbers per tier, correct?.. or will we just see a blanket statement of 50 million "PS+ numbers" instead?.. i have my prediction, what's yours?..

and why do you keep trying to shoehorn Halo Infinite into Game Pass discussions?.. the primary point of reference/criticism of Infinite is the multiplayer component (the lack of post-launch content and the player retention as a result) .. the multiplayer is F2P and has nothing to do with Game Pass and post-launch content has nothing to do with Game Pass.. you're literally hanging your hat on the game that has the least to do with the Game Pass model..

It is cheaper on month-to-month. The PS Premium saves you money if you get it for a full year and you don't take advantage of the discounts you get with XBL Ultimate. But, on a month-to-month subscription basis, Game Pass Ultimate is $15/mo and PS Premium is $18/mo.

PS Premium does not come with EA Pass or day 1 launches. There's a reason why every media site is saying Game Pass is superior.

Vast majority of PS+ users are using annual sub. Not like dumb Xbox fans who are spending more yearly because monthly sub. LOL, there are PS+ discounts in preorders for example. WTF are you talking about. Buying a yearly PS+ Premium + yearly EA play is STILL CHEAPER than yearly GPU.

So, how does this change the fact that PS Premium Tear is more expensive than GPU and offers less?

@SolidGame_basic:

MS does day 1 on game pass, because their games tend to flop when it comes to the sales dept, unlike Sony who’s 1st party always sell over 5 million so there no no need for Sony to follow MS when it comes to day one . Sony will be making tons of money by not doing a day one

Translation = "Sony is giving me a shitty deal and I have to find a way to justify it." 😂

Do you have a PS5 @mowgly1

even I had a ps5 AND a ps4 (2018). He's just lucky im lazy to post my psp pic. @mowgly1, wheres yours??

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@x_hedon said:

@mowgly1 said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@mowgly1: I have pics of my ps4 from 2018 and my ps5 from 3 months ago. I also have my psp 3000 still, so I can easily take pics of that. Though you're right, I don't care about convincing you, I do want to own you and make you look like a bigger clown than you are. 🤡

I guess spartaflop has caused you to become deranged, the butt hurt coming from you is extra strong today

Like i've said, even Jesus doesn't belive you

Do you have a PS5 @mowgly1

even I had a ps5 AND a ps4 (2018). He's just lucky im lazy to post my psp pic. @mowgly1, wheres yours??

also here @mowgly1

So, it's more expensive than GamePass Ultimate, doesn't offer day one new releases and doesn't feature native BC for games from the PS3 era and older?

Yeah, I'll pass.

Nice spin. PS+ Premium is vastly cheaper and offers more. More than 2x games compared to crappy GPU.

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@x_hedon said:

@mowgly1 said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@mowgly1: I have pics of my ps4 from 2018 and my ps5 from 3 months ago. I also have my psp 3000 still, so I can easily take pics of that. Though you're right, I don't care about convincing you, I do want to own you and make you look like a bigger clown than you are. 🤡

I guess spartaflop has caused you to become deranged, the butt hurt coming from you is extra strong today

Like i've said, even Jesus doesn't belive you

Do you have a PS5 @mowgly1

even I had a ps5 AND a ps4 (2018). He's just lucky im lazy to post my psp pic. @mowgly1, wheres yours??

It is easy go to friends house and wrote some crap on paper.

Nope. It is vastly cheaper. Why Xbox fans are dumb and can't do math??

@mowgly1: It offers less bud. No amount of spin changes that fact. And no amount of spin changes the fact it cost more monthly.😂

So, beyond that fallacy do you own a PS5?😎

It offers more. 2X games more. How many games GPU has on Xbox? Little over 400. Right. Well, PS Now has over 800.

I have a PS1.

Do you have a PS5? BTW, GPU is only $1 for 3 years.

I have a PS1

LOL. Of course Xbox fan will use deal excuse. I've bought yearly sub for both PS+ and PS Now for less than 60$. Cheapest PS+ yearly was 29$ on unnoficial sites, PS Now for 30$ and 3x is less than 180$ + 1$ for 3 years of GPU. I can post deals also like you, Kvally.

@mowgly1: Look at you padding the game list over 400 old games.🤣 Day one releases, PC included, EA included and first party games remain. You get less for paying more.😎

No, no....Gamepass doesn't have old games. LOL I think you need to check the list and see some release dates of some games there.

@mowgly1: Never stated anything about it not having older games. I pointed out that you were talking about 800 game when most of them are old, meanwhile Gamepass has Day One releases from first-party and third-party

Most of them ARE NOT day 1 releases on Gamepass. No need to spin this. Gamepass also has old games. No need to ignore it.

I pay monthly for GPU. So, if I were to do the same with PPP, I would be spending $18 monthly. So, yeah, going that route, it would be more expensive.

But it's moot. Like I said, I'll pass, so it really doesn't matter how much I'd be paying because I won't be paying it anyway.

Nothing in my response stated anything about most. It clearly states that Gamepass has day one releases from first party and third party, PS Plus Tears doesn't offer that. You are trying your best to spin the fact that GamePass Ultimate is a better deal.😂

It is a real shame you are shilling so hard for a system you don't own.😎

@mowgly1: If you have a PS1 then why do you have PS+ and PS Now? PS1 doesn’t support those services.

I bet you don’t have a PS5. You probably have a PS4 or PS4 Pro. If true that’s pretty damn embarrassing.

Why can’t the 3 years for $1 be used today? It seems to be tossed around like candy when you cows claim MS is desperate and “nobody pays full price for that, we all just keep renewing for the $1”

Now it’s full price? Come on bro. You can do better.

Love,

Kvally

@mowgly1: so basically you got owned hard, and now you double down on acting a clown🤣.

@x_hedon: How is it embarrassing to still be on PS4? I'm still on PS4 and I'm still enjoying plenty of new releases. Hell, I didn't even buy a PS4 until 2017 and that was just to play FFXV. I'll do the same thing again and will be picking up a PS5 when FFXVI comes out.

@HalcyonScarlet: Okay, MS has more money than Sony. What's your point? Very basement dweller like behavior to live vicariously through another company. How much money do you have? People are willing to buy Sonys games, thus day one isn't needed. I wouldn't want that as the quality would suffer. Spin it anyway you want.

Because i'm using official prices, not deals excuses and try to cover my ass like Xfanies are doing all the time.

I bet you don’t have a PS5. You probably have a PS4 or PS4 Pro. If true that's pretty damn embarrassing

You just proved that you're an Xbox dumbass, Kvally.

@valgaav_219: because of what he keeps bragging about PS5 related yet hasn’t used one. He is bragging all the PS5 games look the best and hasn’t even played them on a PS5.

It’s also sad that he won’t answer the question.

Thanks for inquiring

I'll bet that you would buy an annual GPU sub if there as any. Savings on annual subs are big.

@x_hedon: Okay, I get it. I lowkey forgot that you were in the midst of a heated debate lmao. I'm in no rush to get the new console until we start seeing truly next gen content, though. With 100 million PS4's out in the wild I don't see Sony alienating that fanbase anytime soon.

@mowgly1: be nice. I love you,

Kvally

@valgaav_219:

Just some spring cleaning 🧹

@SolidGame_basic said:

@Pedro said:

@davillain said:

I stole this while on Twitter lol:

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That is funny but true. I am not sure why some people are not expecting more from Sony. After all, competition is good, right?

Not really true as you get PS4 and PS5 games and it will be supported by third parties. Also, annual rate is $120 which is significantly cheaper than Game Pass ultimate.

But PS5 games are PS4 games, unless they alternate between Returnal and Ratchet every other month. :-S

Ryan said that PS Plus day 1 releases would hurt first party games.

https://wccftech.com/ps-plus-day-1-releases-would-hurt-first-party-playstation-games-things-can-change/

[In terms of] putting our own games into this service, or any of our services, upon their release... as you well know, this is not a road that we've gone down in the past. And it's not a road that we're going to go down with this new service. We feel if we were to do that with the games that we make at PlayStation Studios, that virtuous cycle will be broken. The level of investment that we need to make in our studios would not be possible, and we think the knock-on effect on the quality of the games that we make would not be something that gamers want.

Is this just rolling PSNow and PS+ into a package, and adding some things like free trials and older-gen games, or am I missing something?

You're the one spinning, what the ever living crap are you talking about? :-S

How's that's Gran Turismo 7 "quality" going versus Forza Horizon 5?.. 🤔

Are people really arguing over GPU being cheaper than PS Plus highest tier? Currently, the only way to buy GPU is monthly at $15 per month. If you buy per month with PS Plus highest tier it's $18 but you don't have to do so- you can choose to buy a year's worth for $120. Unreal that people are denying this

Yep, and don't forget, PS Plus includes online. If you want online with Game Pass, you have to get Ultimate. Sony's is cheaper and has more stuff.

First Sony makes it online only Xbox One E3 style, then they try to milk the living daylights out of their fans who are paying $70 for Sony to allow them to access it while the servers are up.

But as long as that quality doesn't suffer. :-S

Cows told me they don't like renting games. How can you feel like you own a game when 90% of it is inaccessible when the servers are down.

Is there a chance Sony will offer online for the PS3 games they put on this service I wonder?

That would be cool. Resistance 2 co-op anyone?

Sounds interesting that major 3rd party publishers are supporting the new ps plus. It's not as good without day and date obviously, but as a consumer I'd pick up a month or two here and there.

Monthly cost per year for PS Premium $216 with no PC support or day 1 releases from first party and third party. Only some games can be played natively and no EA Play.

Monthly cost per year for GamePass Ultimate $180, PC included, day 1 releases from first party and third party. All games are downloadable for native play and includes EA Play.

Note, cloudsaves are not included with GamePass cause it is free.

Let the spinning begin.😎

@SolidGame_basic: Sony also charges for cloud saves…like seriously? Nintendo as well

"Update: Major 3rd party publishers to support the service!"

Well, they already did support PS Now, so I wouldn't see why that wouldn't be the case here, they offered their games to PS Plus too, so I wouldn't imagine a rebranding would change that any.

@Pedro: "Only some games can be played natively"

That's unfortunate if that also means games beyond the PS3 library of it.