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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Gauloisess"]Your kidding me right? Having large ammounts of individual sites does not make a community, if anythiung that would justg suggest there being a split in one. You are trying too much, justl ike you try too much on the bf3 forums. A gaming pc costs 1200, this is a high end one, a budget about 800 usd, a console costs no more then 350, why the hell wouild i buy a gaming pc? I dont know, in context of the forum (bf3) playing the version that is actually Battlefield 2's successor? amongst many other games,Show me an active Gears of War fansite than.
I can show more than 20 Diablo 2 community sites wich are being populated and updated regularly. And that is an old 2d sub HD hack and slash game. Face it, console gamers have no sense of community. And no, an online network like Live and PSN alone doesn't create a community.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Scandinavia is one of the home bases of PC gaming and with events like Dreamhack one of the leading parts of the world in competitive PC gaming. Traitor lol.
Birdy09
Considering i never played bf2 with 64 players for the most part only 32 to 40 max, which mind you according to dice is the fun area, i think i can live without it. Besides, knowing dice, the gameplay to scale ratio difference will be non existant. More players, bigger maps, more spread out players= same intensity as smaller maps with lesser players. Because numbers arent anything. Also, the battlefield 3 forums are horrible.
When I have hours and hours of time to kill, I go with PC.
When I just want to sit down for about five to ten minutes, I play console.
Overal, I'd say I prefer PC.
I dont know, in context of the forum (bf3) playing the version that is actually Battlefield 2's successor? amongst many other games,[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Your kidding me right? Having large ammounts of individual sites does not make a community, if anythiung that would justg suggest there being a split in one. You are trying too much, justl ike you try too much on the bf3 forums. A gaming pc costs 1200, this is a high end one, a budget about 800 usd, a console costs no more then 350, why the hell wouild i buy a gaming pc?Sandvichman
Considering i never played bf2 with 64 players for the most part only 32 to 40 max, which mind you according to dice is the fun area, i think i can live without it. Besides, knowing dice, the gameplay to scale ratio difference will be non existant. More players, bigger maps, more spread out players= same intensity as smaller maps with lesser players. Because numbers arent anything. Also, the battlefield 3 forums are horrible.
Seems alittle conveniant that you happen to play the same settings "between" (despite normal caps being 16 32 64) as an article to proove your point. but 64 players worked very well, actually gave a feeling of a warezone, and isnt possible on the console versions.Considering i never played bf2 with 64 players for the most part only 32 to 40 max, which mind you according to dice is the fun area, i think i can live without it. Besides, knowing dice, the gameplay to scale ratio difference will be non existant. More players, bigger maps, more spread out players= same intensity as smaller maps with lesser players. Because numbers arent anything. Also, the battlefield 3 forums are horrible.
Sandvichman
You're literally arguing in favor of fewer capabilities.
Also, small and large matches are not the same. One feels like a special forces skirmish whereas the other feels like a full-scale battle, there's a big difference. One is faster paced and an individual's actions are more important, the other is more strategic and depends more on teamwork.
They both have their place in video games, but they definitely aren't the same thing.
[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] I dont know, in context of the forum (bf3) playing the version that is actually Battlefield 2's successor? amongst many other games,Birdy09
Considering i never played bf2 with 64 players for the most part only 32 to 40 max, which mind you according to dice is the fun area, i think i can live without it. Besides, knowing dice, the gameplay to scale ratio difference will be non existant. More players, bigger maps, more spread out players= same intensity as smaller maps with lesser players. Because numbers arent anything. Also, the battlefield 3 forums are horrible.
Seems alittle conveniant that you happen to play the same settings "between" (despite normal caps being 16 32 64) as an article to proove your point. but 64 players worked very well, actually gave a feeling of a warezone, and isnt possible on the console versions. What, servers had caps of 40 mate, check it out. 32-30 was the sweet stop for me in bf2, and bc2 was just downright perfect with 24 for me. I would like more, but im not going to shell out 1200 for a bf3 capable gaming pc, just for one game, as there is little that interests me on the pc platform, especially after the waste of money that potato sack was on steam. And no, it didnt give a feeling of a warzone, that feeling was hindered by its horrible gunplay, overpowered weapons and aircraft, and the commander spam. There is nothing immersive about: ENEMY SPOTTED BOAT spotted ENEMY SPOTTET TANK SPOTTED JESUT SPOTTED ME SPOTTED SANDVICH SPOTTED, hearing the same crap in 3 different languages on that same text being all over my screen, no fun at all.[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]
Considering i never played bf2 with 64 players for the most part only 32 to 40 max, which mind you according to dice is the fun area, i think i can live without it. Besides, knowing dice, the gameplay to scale ratio difference will be non existant. More players, bigger maps, more spread out players= same intensity as smaller maps with lesser players. Because numbers arent anything. Also, the battlefield 3 forums are horrible.
superfluidity
You're literally arguing in favor of fewer capabilities.
Also, small and large matches are not the same. One feels like a special forces skirmish whereas the other feels like a full-scale battle, there's a big difference. One is faster paced and an individual's actions are more important, the other is more strategic and depends more on teamwork.
They both have their place in video games, but they definitely aren't the same thing.
Of course not, i want more options, but they dont matter to me, as i never played in larger servers. BC2 gave it the feeling of a full scale battle, thats for sure.[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"]Seems alittle conveniant that you happen to play the same settings "between" (despite normal caps being 16 32 64) as an article to proove your point. but 64 players worked very well, actually gave a feeling of a warezone, and isnt possible on the console versions. What, servers had caps of 40 mate, check it out. 32-30 was the sweet stop for me in bf2, and bc2 was just downright perfect with 24 for me. I would like more, but im not going to shell out 1200 for a bf3 capable gaming pc, just for one game, as there is little that interests me on the pc platform, especially after the waste of money that potato sack was on steam. And no, it didnt give a feeling of a warzone, that feeling was hindered by its horrible gunplay, overpowered weapons and aircraft, and the commander spam. There is nothing immersive about: ENEMY SPOTTED BOAT spotted ENEMY SPOTTET TANK SPOTTED JESUT SPOTTED ME SPOTTED SANDVICH SPOTTED, hearing the same crap in 3 different languages on that same text being all over my screen, no fun at all.Considering i never played bf2 with 64 players for the most part only 32 to 40 max, which mind you according to dice is the fun area, i think i can live without it. Besides, knowing dice, the gameplay to scale ratio difference will be non existant. More players, bigger maps, more spread out players= same intensity as smaller maps with lesser players. Because numbers arent anything. Also, the battlefield 3 forums are horrible.
Sandvichman
Someone sucked at Battlefield 2
[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="dakan45"]I was gonna vote for console but considering how system wars is filled with pc gamers at 100% of the time rather console gamers for "some" reason :roll: i bet pc gamig will be much higher on the votes than console gaming...so i wont even bother voting to increse the votes, its a lost cause trully.dakan45These polls use to be alot closer, perhaps the reality is that these consoles are showing thier age, its not a lost cause,you just dont like the outcome. Actualy it is a lost cause because all the console gamers got tired of arguing with pc gamers and stop posting in those threads. As i said, its a lost cause. It was inevitable. It happened.
That's actually true, some months ago, this poll would have been much closer.
I think pc is better, but a lot of hermits started getting annoying and the console gamers got tired of it.
Console. I don't have to wait for a Windows screen.
berzerk0912
LOL!
No you have just have to wait for the console GUI to load, then find the DVD, the wait for the game to load...
On PC, I can come home from work, wiggle the mouse and double click my steam game. Boom! I'm playing left 4 dead, WAY before you start playign anything on a console.
[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"]Seems alittle conveniant that you happen to play the same settings "between" (despite normal caps being 16 32 64) as an article to proove your point. but 64 players worked very well, actually gave a feeling of a warezone, and isnt possible on the console versions. What, servers had caps of 40 mate, check it out. 32-30 was the sweet stop for me in bf2, and bc2 was just downright perfect with 24 for me. I would like more, but im not going to shell out 1200 for a bf3 capable gaming pc, just for one game, as there is little that interests me on the pc platform, especially after the waste of money that potato sack was on steam. And no, it didnt give a feeling of a warzone, that feeling was hindered by its horrible gunplay, overpowered weapons and aircraft, and the commander spam. There is nothing immersive about: ENEMY SPOTTED BOAT spotted ENEMY SPOTTET TANK SPOTTED JESUT SPOTTED ME SPOTTED SANDVICH SPOTTED, hearing the same crap in 3 different languages on that same text being all over my screen, no fun at all. Thats a valid point, that was a minor flaw that happened in all player counts though, something I hope doesnt return, spotting is a great edition, spamming voice com wasnt. I find it hard to believe there are no other pc games that would interest you either, and you always post negativly about it whenever the chance arises.Considering i never played bf2 with 64 players for the most part only 32 to 40 max, which mind you according to dice is the fun area, i think i can live without it. Besides, knowing dice, the gameplay to scale ratio difference will be non existant. More players, bigger maps, more spread out players= same intensity as smaller maps with lesser players. Because numbers arent anything. Also, the battlefield 3 forums are horrible.
Sandvichman
[QUOTE="berzerk0912"]
Console. I don't have to wait for a Windows screen.
Kinthalis
LOL!
No you have just have to wait for the console GUI to load, then find the DVD, the wait for the game to load...
On PC, I can come home from work, wiggle the mouse and double click my steam game. Boom! I'm playing left 4 dead, WAY before you start playign anything on a console.
And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game.[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
[QUOTE="berzerk0912"]
Console. I don't have to wait for a Windows screen.
berzerk0912
LOL!
No you have just have to wait for the console GUI to load, then find the DVD, the wait for the game to load...
On PC, I can come home from work, wiggle the mouse and double click my steam game. Boom! I'm playing left 4 dead, WAY before you start playign anything on a console.
And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game. Eh I put mine in sleep 24/7 when not in use, so boot up is litterally a second or 2, click the icon and im in, woop woop. Regaurdless, a pretty reason none the less surely?Wussup with the results of this poll? I thought this was cowspot? Must be a lot of people with Vaio's.
[QUOTE="berzerk0912"]And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game. Eh I put mine in sleep 24/7 when not in use, so boot up is litterally a second or 2, click the icon and im in, woop woop. Regaurdless, a pretty reason none the less surely?You probably have a high electric bill if you don't live with your parents. I prefer to just shut my console completely off.[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
LOL!
No you have just have to wait for the console GUI to load, then find the DVD, the wait for the game to load...
On PC, I can come home from work, wiggle the mouse and double click my steam game. Boom! I'm playing left 4 dead, WAY before you start playign anything on a console.
Birdy09
Both.
Though this year it looks like my purchases are leaning more towards PC.
PC- Crysis 2, STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl, King's Bounty: Armored Princess, Bad Company 2
Console- Mass Defect 2, Sin and Punishment: Star Successor
That's like, 50% more on PC right? And we're like, five months into the year? Yeah. :P
I prefer console gaming simply because that is were my favorite games have always been. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Ninja Gaiden, Dragon Quest, Team Ico games, Gran Turismo, Mario Kart, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Oddworld, etc.. are just among a few series that I enjoy that are (mostly) exclusive to consoles. If I were to make a list of all my favorite games, over 95% of them would be console only.
Not a knock against PC by any means. Objectively, it is the very best platform. The most games, the best graphics, the best performance, and by far the most options. If a multiplat is on PC then I will usually opt for that version, and from time to time PC exclusives do spark my interest, but at the end of the day consoles just have my favorite games and that's all that matters to me.
Eh I put mine in sleep 24/7 when not in use, so boot up is litterally a second or 2, click the icon and im in, woop woop. Regaurdless, a pretty reason none the less surely?You probably have a high electric bill if you don't live with your parents. I prefer to just shut my console completely off.[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="berzerk0912"]And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game.
berzerk0912
Putting a PC in sleep mode does not consume very much power at all. Really man, that's just grasping.
And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game.
berzerk0912
Not sure if you're kidding.
I hit spacebar, 2 seconds later I see my desktop, I click the game icon and the game loads much faster than any console could. On my consoles it probably takes 10-15 times as long to actually get into the game overall.
What, servers had caps of 40 mate, check it out. 32-30 was the sweet stop for me in bf2, and bc2 was just downright perfect with 24 for me. I would like more, but im not going to shell out 1200 for a bf3 capable gaming pc, just for one game, as there is little that interests me on the pc platform, especially after the waste of money that potato sack was on steam. And no, it didnt give a feeling of a warzone, that feeling was hindered by its horrible gunplay, overpowered weapons and aircraft, and the commander spam. There is nothing immersive about: ENEMY SPOTTED BOAT spotted ENEMY SPOTTET TANK SPOTTED JESUT SPOTTED ME SPOTTED SANDVICH SPOTTED, hearing the same crap in 3 different languages on that same text being all over my screen, no fun at all.[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] Seems alittle conveniant that you happen to play the same settings "between" (despite normal caps being 16 32 64) as an article to proove your point. but 64 players worked very well, actually gave a feeling of a warezone, and isnt possible on the console versions.ChubbyGuy40
Someone sucked at Battlefield 2
Fail, to counter arguement, result to insultng other arguers skill'' Also, you cant say bf2 gunplay was good, the shots were completly random, if my barrel is pointed at somethhing, it should go in that direction,Fail, to counter arguement, result to insultng other arguers skill'' Also, you cant say bf2 gunplay was good, the shots were completly random, if my barrel is pointed at somethhing, it should go in that direction,Sandvichman
Yeah, BF2 gun mechanics were pretty bad.
[QUOTE="berzerk0912"]
And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game.
superfluidity
Not sure if you're kidding.
I hit spacebar, 2 seconds later I see my desktop, I click the game icon and the game loads much faster than any console could. On my consoles it probably takes 10-15 times as long to actually get into the game overall.
Is that after the long wait from the BIOS screen, and then the Windows startup screen? You also must be talking about your Sega Saturn if it takes 10-15 times as long, because you didn't specify which console you own if you really own one.Consoles have considerably better exclusives then the PC. 5 years ago, it's PC no doubt, but anymore the only game I'd want on PC are the RTS and multiplats that I could just get on PS3 or 360.
magnax1
Did you seriously just lump in All 3 consoles against the Pc to make your argument sound compelling? Regardless, your base is full subjectivity. I can easily state Pc has better exclusives to any console but as you can see there is no facts to it...
Pc fact wise still offers:
i like the console eco system better. But i also like how you can get the most out of your game with the pc.
[QUOTE="magnax1"]
Consoles have considerably better exclusives then the PC. 5 years ago, it's PC no doubt, but anymore the only game I'd want on PC are the RTS and multiplats that I could just get on PS3 or 360.
jedikevin2
Did you seriously just lump in All 3 consoles against the Pc to make your argument sound compelling? Regardless, your base is full subjectivity. I can easily state Pc has better exclusives to any console but as you can see there is no facts to it...
Pc fact wise still offers:
[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]
[QUOTE="magnax1"]
Consoles have considerably better exclusives then the PC. 5 years ago, it's PC no doubt, but anymore the only game I'd want on PC are the RTS and multiplats that I could just get on PS3 or 360.
berzerk0912
Did you seriously just lump in All 3 consoles against the Pc to make your argument sound compelling? Regardless, your base is full subjectivity. I can easily state Pc has better exclusives to any console but as you can see there is no facts to it...
Pc fact wise still offers:
And don't forget back, neck cramps from sitting on a office chair all day vs. a comfy sofa with a console, and beer on the coffee table.
berzerk0912
Yet mine is connected to my HDTV (the same as my consoles) in front of my bed... Oh wait, that destroys your point... My back is so sore :(
[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
[QUOTE="berzerk0912"]
Console. I don't have to wait for a Windows screen.
berzerk0912
LOL!
No you have just have to wait for the console GUI to load, then find the DVD, the wait for the game to load...
On PC, I can come home from work, wiggle the mouse and double click my steam game. Boom! I'm playing left 4 dead, WAY before you start playign anything on a console.
And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game. the game that takes 30 seconds to load? impossibru!I like my PC better, it's usually more customizable and I can play RTSes and simulations on it. I do however play on my console more, sometimes even if I have the option to play the same game on my PC (if the performance is close enough that is). I just downloaded KOTOR off of Steam to play, and ended up breaking out my X-Box version instead due to my back killing me for sitting there for hours at a time.
When I'm gaming, I like to be lounging back on my comfy couch with my feet up rather than hunched in front of a relatively small screen in comparison to my HDTV hooked up to an awesome sound system. I know it's possible to hook my PC up to my TV, but it's such a major hassle. I also like just being able to pick up a controller and play. But overall, despite the discomfort factor, I believe the PC to give a better more satisfying gaming experience than any console can. If one day I go through the pain of connecting it all up to my TV, then I'll choose PC, but at this point I kind of prefer consoles.
And that's the bottom line.
With the exception of a couple of exclusives, consoles can do NOTHING that my PC can't do better. And my PC can do a ton of things consoles can't do.
Like right now, my home theater PC is recording 3 things while I watch another channel. And my wife is streaming a blu-ray from it to her iPad. I'm also obviously surfing the web, while I plan out my next turn in Shogun 2 total War. And yesterday I edited some home HD movies for a friend.
And now friends want to play the new Mount Blade, so l8tr :)
[QUOTE="superfluidity"]
[QUOTE="berzerk0912"]
And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game.
berzerk0912
Not sure if you're kidding.
I hit spacebar, 2 seconds later I see my desktop, I click the game icon and the game loads much faster than any console could. On my consoles it probably takes 10-15 times as long to actually get into the game overall.
Is that after the long wait from the BIOS screen, and then the Windows startup screen? You also must be talking about your Sega Saturn if it takes 10-15 times as long, because you didn't specify which console you own if you really own one.I haven't shut my computer off in months.
I own a 360 and used to have a Wii.
Eh I put mine in sleep 24/7 when not in use, so boot up is litterally a second or 2, click the icon and im in, woop woop. Regaurdless, a pretty reason none the less surely?You probably have a high electric bill if you don't live with your parents. I prefer to just shut my console completely off.[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="berzerk0912"]And by the time you do all that I'll be on the next stage of my game.
berzerk0912
Are you new to computers or something? When a computer is in sleep mode it uses an immaterial amount of power. My last PG&E bill was $37, and yes I can back that up if necessary. Though if you put me through the trouble I ask that you unequivocally admit to being wrong about this.
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