I agree with the OP.
The KB/M setup makes the game lose immersion. With the controller, you get a more realistic feel for the game. Aiming is more realistic, shooting is more realistic. And of course flying planes and choppers is way more realistic with the DS4.
With a KB/M setup, aiming feels like you're just moving the little reticle dot around the screen. With a DS4, or any analog controller, it feels like you're actually wielding a gun and it feels like they have actual weight to them when turning and aiming. A KB/M gives you too much unrealistic precision, making it feel more arcadey.
Yeah ok, twiddling your thumbs like a bunch of idiots, THAT's more realistic. Lol!
Damn, man. You lost the last argument. BADLY. That thread got flipped on you mgihty quick.
And here you are again. Ready for round 2 I guess. You must be some sort of masochist or something.
Certainly your arguments haven't gotten any better.
It's laughable really.
M&K are superior... TOO SUPERIOR! Natch.
Network issues!!! Nevermind that everyone, ploygon, IGN, and a number of other outlets have said that the PS4 network issues are by far WORSE than the PC ones.
Question for you: Do you start these threads because you need to re-assure yourself you didn't just waste $400+ on a console with no games that runs the few games it has that aren't derivative crap, worse than your PC?
1440p is overrated
Yeah 4K is where it's at ;)
Seriously, that is probably going to be my next big PC upgrade. 4K + Gsync + 20 nm GPU = gaming bliss.
@lostrib: Steam survey says around 40% have 1080p or higher displays. That's close to 30 million people. Not too shabby.
Carmack is insane though. He could get Rage to play at 60fps on a Nintendo 3DS if he put his mind to it. What he believes can be done from his perceptions is a lot different than the capabilities of other programmers.
It's not just about programmer ability though. It's a vanishing point of diminishing returns and money AND time.
Yeah, you could spend an extra 25 million, god knows how many more man hours and the end result could be TLOU without a shitty framerate and with better AA. But who cares at that point? If they had done that, the game would be coming out next year and would never even hope to recoup the cost of development.
*Sigh* I still don't think you guys get my point. I'm not ignoring that there does actually exist differences between the two versions, but that to the naked eye, the differences would not be noticeable or barely noticeable. In other words, they are inconsequential.
To this naked eye they DO matter and they ARE noticeable.
@lostrib said:@Jankarcop said:
Factually speaking this thread is correct.
- The most played genres on the planet are PC genres. (MMO/MOBA)
- The most competative genres, and the only true competative scenes are PC ONLY
- Most games total. Most high scoring games total. Exclusives included.
- Best version of multiplats bar none.
For a Console-Kiddy to disagree will be completely his or her opinion, in which case they should Blog it.
but can you play GTA V?
Besides, we will. In the meantime we got liek 1,001 game sot choose from. On next gen consoles you got 6.0 and 7.5 AAA games ot play I guess :)
@seanmcloughlin said:@jhonMalcovich said:@seanmcloughlin said:@-Unreal- said:
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The resolution is the biggest difference, then the FOV. Other than that the PS4 is pretty damn impressive
Not only the resolution. Just check the terrain and vegetation. The PS4 textures are muddy as hell. The background and water look the same though. But probabluy sitting far enough blurs away the differences.
The muddy look o textures could be attributed to the lower resolution, if it was 1080p the textures would pop a bit more.
Lower rez contributes to the horrible texture IQ, but there's a clear lack of AF in "next gen" games on "next gen" consoles.
I don't know why. AF is essentially free on modern PC GPU's.... is it maybe an issue of bandwidth?
They;ve been having a demo out on the Samsung store by my place with a 4K TV and a 1080p TV standing next to each other. The cool thing is that the demo is on the outside of the store so you cna see it comign down a long mall hallway. Far away, we're tlaking 100 feet+ Obviously, there was no real difference, except the 4K looked a bit brighter. But by the time we got to 50 feet, it was already obvious which was which. even at that distance I could notice MORE detail on the 4K panel, mostly movement detail. On one I could see cars moving in the video, on the other I couldn't.
At less than 20 feet the difference was even mroe apparent. There was a ton of more detial and clarity on the 4K video. At 50 feet and less the experience was amazing. The video was of the empire state building and surrrounding streets/buildings, and in the 4K panel I could actually make out the camera flashes and tiny people on the top of the empire state building! Couldn not see them at all on the 1080p version.
The panels were both the same size (57" IIRC). So that chart is pure bull shit. It's more than just arcseconds. You can't boild down your eyes to just camera's. Our vision is more nuanced and complex than that.
Its amazing what graphics you can achieve when the FOV is set to 20.
Pretty much this on top of everything else.
Common you can't tell me you actually prefer to watch gamepad gameplay. Even if you enjoy PLAYING like that (for some odd reason) it's pretty undeniable that it FILMS at least better, right?
I personally don't care. I have friends who play on PC with a gamepad, and that's cool. But man, I can't stand watching their videos.
Talking about the horrible way FPs games look when playign with a gamepad. It's like you're stuck inside a tank at all times. Horrible to watch.
Compare your clip to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNrILp-dqwQ
THAT is a joy to watch. Smooth movement. Precise, purposeful. FUN.
And it ha snothign to do with your skill. It's just LOOKS and FEELs better than gamepad, herky jerky movement.
@_Matt_ said:@BluRayHiDef said:@_Matt_ said:
How does BF4 play on PS4?
I'm tempted to get it on PS4 over pc, simply because that's what my friends have it on, but I have played every previous BF on pc before now.
Also, why did you buy both versions?
On PS4, it's silky smooth. The frame rate is high and consistent; I've never noticed any drops. As for the multiplayer gameplay, it's very competitive and fast paced, but not as much as the PC version, which isn't a bad thing (it's just that PC is on another level).
As for why I bought both versions, I had $50.00 to blow and wanted to compare them in regard to graphics, performance, and the online multiplayer experience.
Well that's kind of another reason I might want it on PS4 over PC. I found it would take me a couple of matches to warm up in BF3 on pc, to get me to a standard I could enjoy and actually be competitive. That was fine at the time, but these days I just don't have time for 'warm up' rounds, I just want to feel like I'm having good games from the get go.
I uploaded a fifteen minute gameplay video of the PS4 version of Battlefield 4's multiplayer mode via the PS4's share function, but the video isn't showing up on my Facebook account. Damn. It's a good video too.
It finally popped up.
I know my FB account is pretty lame; I don't use it much.
Watching console gamers play FPS games with gamepads is the worst. All that tank camera movement, shooting past targets. It's just so bad.