PC gaming IS dying... for different reason.

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#101 jedikevin2
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LOL someone got way too defense. I am speaking globally here. What you see globally is the move away from exclusivity all together as developers look to get the most amount of money for their game. Sorry you got mad bro. That was not my intent. Your stating the times of change of in decline for PC.. I'm stating things are in line for a more status quo for sometime.

What you will really see in the time to come is a move to everyone having multiplatform releases of games outside the first parties. Its just the best option for developers. With the way Pc hwardware is far outpacing performance needs, you will see more moderate computers and laptops being able to handle said games with ease. Again... a mutiplatform approach is more in line to whats to come outside of the whole cloud computing aspect of things. PC gaming etc will be going at the status quo for sometime here.. The big change in gaming on all platforming will be cloud base once the world infastructure can handle the load with ease. We are pretty far from that happening and sadly it may never happen if laws in place in many country's prohibit it.

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#102 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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pc is going more and more mobile. Who wants to keep their digital life at home?

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My pc is the oposite of mobile though. 20kg+ 800d and 3 monitors.
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#103 foxhound_fox
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Meh, that`s exactly what people were saying about the IPOD touch/Iphone until it recently came into the running for top portable gaming device, and still building steam.Boomshaffted

And yet both Sony and Nintendo are producing handheld devices with traditional button inputs and not going straight for touch-screen only games. They are different markets... and there are very few games on the iPhone that come close to the depth of many Nintendo or Sony portable games. iPhone games are generally for on-the-go casual entertainment... not actual investments of time like Pokemon.

The iPad is to PC's as the iPhone is to the DS and PSP. It is a different market that appeals to a different type of gamer.

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#104 mike_on_mic
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I don't see this happening, until, devices like the iPad will overtake a PC in terms of graphics. PC games like their PC gaming rigs due to the superior graphics if can provide to them running in very high resolutions. iPads aren't a replacement to this, they are a new entry into portable gaming and their competition is more the PSP and DS than any console or PC. I saw someone playing need for speed on an iPad and using the device as a steering wheel, though inovative, seemed annoying from perspective, as the screen you were looking at is tilting, every gaming platform I have ever gamed on has not had the screeen moving without you moving in conjuction with it. I don't see this platform overtaking PCs or Consoles any time soon.
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#105 NAPK1NS
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No no no no. There's so much wrong in that post. iPad will NEVER be a replacement for anything. It's a useless gadget that can provide 10 to 15 minutes of amusement and then be put back into the box it came on to never be used again. It provides ZERO productivity and really can't be used for anything in particular.nintendog66
Do you own one?
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#106 Blixxed
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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]No no no no. There's so much wrong in that post. iPad will NEVER be a replacement for anything. It's a useless gadget that can provide 10 to 15 minutes of amusement and then be put back into the box it came on to never be used again. It provides ZERO productivity and really can't be used for anything in particular.NAPK1NS
Do you own one?

He probably doesn't, I love my ipad.
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#107 cyanblues
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until iPads etc can do word processing or photoshop like a pc can, home desktop/laptops will never go away

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#108 AnnoyedDragon
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Why is it the ridiculous "consoles are dying" thread got locked, but this just as ridiculous thread is still open?

Anyway, I got a Android Tablet not too long ago, which is just a cheaper and less locked down IPAD. It does its job for what it does, but anyone claiming they will compete with PC are insane or flame baiting.

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#109 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="nintendog66"]No no no no. There's so much wrong in that post. iPad will NEVER be a replacement for anything. It's a useless gadget that can provide 10 to 15 minutes of amusement and then be put back into the box it came on to never be used again. It provides ZERO productivity and really can't be used for anything in particular.Blixxed
Do you own one?

He probably doesn't, I love my ipad.

Same, man. I think its really easy to hate on the iPad if you don't own one; they're completely frivolous items but so wonderful to own. To say that you can't be productive on one is incorrect. I take notes for my films, read books, manage my schedule and watch movies on the iPad all the time. It's one of my favorite pieces of technology, actually. :?
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#110 taterfrickintot
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The devices like iPad will rule at home.

MxM
this is where the thread failed. curse apple and there overly dumbed downed computers.
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#111 icyseanfitz
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Why is it the ridiculous "consoles are dying" thread got locked, but this just as ridiculous thread is still open?

Anyway, I got a Android Tablet not too long ago, which is just a cheaper and less locked down IPAD. It does its job for what it does, but anyone claiming they will compete with PC are insane or flame baiting.

AnnoyedDragon

fairly one sided on this site alright isnt it, someone hates on consoles (joking might i add) and his thread gets locked but these ever present "pc is dying" threads are never locked.

as for the ipad...its a big ipod touch whats so special about it? ive seen one been used and its a complete and utter waste of money

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#112 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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No no no no. There's so much wrong in that post. iPad will NEVER be a replacement for anything. It's a useless gadget that can provide 10 to 15 minutes of amusement and then be put back into the box it came on to never be used again. It provides ZERO productivity and really can't be used for anything in particular.nintendog66

:roll: We use ours everyday, My GF love the thing, you have no idea what you are talking about, the Ipad is a awesome device.

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#113 dc337
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Same, man. I think its really easy to hate on the iPad if you don't own one; they're completely frivolous items but so wonderful to own. To say that you can't be productive on one is incorrect. I take notes for my films, read books, manage my schedule and watch movies on the iPad all the time. It's one of my favorite pieces of technology, actually. :?NAPK1NS
Yea but you can do all those things on a netbook that costs less and has a better game selection. The ipad isn't going to be as popular as the iphone. Typing on the same screen you are looking at is annoying and leaves fingerprints.

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#114 XboxGuy1537
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It's definetaley slowing down....

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#115 Hakkai007
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:roll: We use ours everyday, My GF love the thing, you have no idea what you are talking about, the Ipad is a awesome device.

Advid-Gamer

The iPad is just way over priced.

There are tablets that are out and coming out that are many times more powerful, offer much more and are cheaper.

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#116 AnnoyedDragon
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fairly one sided on this site alright isnt it, someone hates on consoles (joking might i add) and his thread gets locked but these ever present "pc is dying" threads are never locked.

icyseanfitz

Never seen a console gamer get in trouble for calling all PC gamers thieves either, which is quite the statement when you think about it. I've been moderated for calling a console gamer a hypocrit, but it's ok to declare all PC gamers pirates?

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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]No no no no. There's so much wrong in that post. iPad will NEVER be a replacement for anything. It's a useless gadget that can provide 10 to 15 minutes of amusement and then be put back into the box it came on to never be used again. It provides ZERO productivity and really can't be used for anything in particular.Advid-Gamer

:roll: We use ours everyday, My GF love the thing, you have no idea what you are talking about, the Ipad is a awesome device.

What do you do on it that's actually productive?

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#118 icyseanfitz
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[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

fairly one sided on this site alright isnt it, someone hates on consoles (joking might i add) and his thread gets locked but these ever present "pc is dying" threads are never locked.

AnnoyedDragon

Never seen a console gamer get in trouble for calling all PC gamers thieves either, which is quite the statement when you think about it. I've been moderated for calling a console gamer a hypocrit, but it's ok to declare all PC gamers pirates?

dont even bother you will probably get modded just for pointing this kind of stuff out i know i have been before

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#119 ActicEdge
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That's a creative answer. Its wrong but hey, I haven't heard that one before tbh.

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#120 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

:roll: We use ours everyday, My GF love the thing, you have no idea what you are talking about, the Ipad is a awesome device.

Hakkai007

The iPad is just way over priced.

There are tablets that are out and coming out that are many times more powerful, offer much more and are cheaper.

I got mine for 396.00, have a family member that works for apple. Haters gonna hate, and there are tons of haters on this site.
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#121 DudeNtheRoom
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It's definetaley slowing down....

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No it's not.
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#122 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="nintendog66"]No no no no. There's so much wrong in that post. iPad will NEVER be a replacement for anything. It's a useless gadget that can provide 10 to 15 minutes of amusement and then be put back into the box it came on to never be used again. It provides ZERO productivity and really can't be used for anything in particular.rpgs_shall_rule

:roll: We use ours everyday, My GF love the thing, you have no idea what you are talking about, the Ipad is a awesome device.

What do you do on it that's actually productive?

What do you mean productive? What do you do on your video game systems that is productive? WE use it like a normal computer, it is connected to the internet. I dont see what your point is.

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#123 lowe0
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[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

No no no no. There's so much wrong in that post. iPad will NEVER be a replacement for anything. It's a useless gadget that can provide 10 to 15 minutes of amusement and then be put back into the box it came on to never be used again. It provides ZERO productivity and really can't be used for anything in particular.nintendog66

:roll: We use ours everyday, My GF love the thing, you have no idea what you are talking about, the Ipad is a awesome device.

What do you do on it that's actually productive?

This is a gaming site. Are you seriously calling technology out for not being productive?
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#124 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

:roll: We use ours everyday, My GF love the thing, you have no idea what you are talking about, the Ipad is a awesome device.

Advid-Gamer

What do you do on it that's actually productive?

What do you mean productive? What do you do on your video game systems that is productive? Dont ask stupid questions.

Productive as in, used to a achieve a relevant task obviously. Video game systems are used to play video games, its not productive in the literal sense but they are meant for entertainment purposes. I think the point was that an iPad doesn't excell in any relevant area that other devices may. IE, Computer, better for work, internet browsing, watching movies, game systems, better for actually playing games.

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#125 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

What do you do on it that's actually productive?

ActicEdge

What do you mean productive? What do you do on your video game systems that is productive? Dont ask stupid questions.

Productive as in, used to a achieve a relevant task obviously. Video game systems are used to play video games, its not productive in the literal sense but they are meant for entertainment purposes. I think the point was that an iPad doesn't excell in any relevant area that other devices may. IE, Computer, better for work, internet browsing, watching movies, game systems, better for actually playing games.

If you people dont know how or what you can use a Ipad for, there is no point in discussing it. Nothing but haters on this site and I am sure they just want to bash the Ipad because they dont have one. This site is getting boring.
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#126 millerlight89
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This site is getting boring.Advid-Gamer
You can easily leave :?
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#127 millerlight89
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It's definetaley slowing down....

XboxGuy1537
And the Xbox isn't :P Well at least it is in good games, you guys still get those Kinect games :lol:
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#128 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] What do you mean productive? What do you do on your video game systems that is productive? Dont ask stupid questions.Advid-Gamer

Productive as in, used to a achieve a relevant task obviously. Video game systems are used to play video games, its not productive in the literal sense but they are meant for entertainment purposes. I think the point was that an iPad doesn't excell in any relevant area that other devices may. IE, Computer, better for work, internet browsing, watching movies, game systems, better for actually playing games.

If you people dont know how or what you can use a Ipad for, there is no point in discussing it. Nothing but haters on this site and I am sure they just want to bash the Ipad because they dont have one. This site is getting boring.

What at all makes you think I don't know? Your reasoning isn't good, you think people on a website, some who buy tons of games andsome with collections hundreds of games big can't afford an iPad? Lol, please.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] What do you mean productive? What do you do on your video game systems that is productive? Dont ask stupid questions.Advid-Gamer

Productive as in, used to a achieve a relevant task obviously. Video game systems are used to play video games, its not productive in the literal sense but they are meant for entertainment purposes. I think the point was that an iPad doesn't excell in any relevant area that other devices may. IE, Computer, better for work, internet browsing, watching movies, game systems, better for actually playing games.

If you people dont know how or what you can use a Ipad for, there is no point in discussing it. Nothing but haters on this site and I am sure they just want to bash the Ipad because they dont have one. This site is getting boring.

what can you do on an ipad that you cant on a netbook? which by the way will be much better speced for the price of an ipad, you have a somewhat biased opinion seeing as someone in your family works for apple

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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Productive as in, used to a achieve a relevant task obviously. Video game systems are used to play video games, its not productive in the literal sense but they are meant for entertainment purposes. I think the point was that an iPad doesn't excell in any relevant area that other devices may. IE, Computer, better for work, internet browsing, watching movies, game systems, better for actually playing games.

ActicEdge

If you people dont know how or what you can use a Ipad for, there is no point in discussing it. Nothing but haters on this site and I am sure they just want to bash the Ipad because they dont have one. This site is getting boring.

What at all makes you think I don't know? Your reasoning isn't good, you think people on a website, some who buy tons of games andsome with collections hundreds of games big can't afford an iPad? Lol, please.

I dont need any reasoning, I am not trying to hype the Ipad, I\ only qouted a guy guy saying it was useless trash and said it was not, I use mine every day, I dont need to convince anyone of any thing. Dont like it dont buy it.
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#133 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]This site is getting boring.Advid-Gamer

You can easily leave :?

I dont post here near as much, but whats it to you? Get off my %^$$ back MF

Why you mad ? :P :lol:
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#134 RadecSupreme
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Once I saw Ipad mentioned there, I automatically marked this as a troll thread. But here I am thinking how this thread made it to 7 pages

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#136 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] I dont post here near as much, but whats it to you? Get off my %^$$ back MF

Advid-Gamer

Why you mad ? :P :lol:

I have noticed that your soul purpose on this site is to annoy people.

Yet I'm not the one calling people this site dumb asses. What is wrong with this picture? :|

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#137 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] If you people dont know how or what you can use a Ipad for, there is no point in discussing it. Nothing but haters on this site and I am sure they just want to bash the Ipad because they dont have one. This site is getting boring.Advid-Gamer

What at all makes you think I don't know? Your reasoning isn't good, you think people on a website, some who buy tons of games andsome with collections hundreds of games big can't afford an iPad? Lol, please.

I dont need any reasoning, I am not trying to hype the Ipad, I\ only qouted a guy guy saying it was useless trash and said it was not, I use mine every day, I dont need to convince anyone of any thing. Dont like it dont buy it.

No one said you were hyping the pad, I simply was saying that money to buy gadgets isn't a problem for a lot of people on this site which you inferred was. The pad is not trash at all, its just not very needed for a lot of people around these parts it seems, I don't see why you have to be all like"get of my ****ing back" and "come at me bro" about it :?

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#138 rpgs_shall_rule
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[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

What do you do on it that's actually productive?

Advid-Gamer

What do you mean productive? What do you do on your video game systems that is productive? WE use it like a normal computer, it is connected to the internet. I dont see what your point is.

I don't do anything productive on video game consoles, as they're designed to waste time. I do however do homework, send e-mails, do research, study and such on my PC. Are you saying you do all those things on your Ipad?

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#139 RK-Mara
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In ten years, who knows what will happen? It's possible we are all using Onlive by then.
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#140 legol1
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pc gaming is in decline because there is not enough powerful software to really take advantage of the hardware.
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#141 rpgs_shall_rule
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pc gaming is in decline because there is not enough powerful software to really take advantage of the hardware.legol1

And console gaming is in decline because there is no powerful software and it uses ancient hardware?

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#142 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

gtx 580

It's only been 5 years since the last consoles, and look at what the PC has now - GDDR-5:o

When the PS3 was released, they had just begun placing 512 MB of GDDR-3 on GPU cards.

With innovations from nVidia and ATI, no way PC desktops will die out.:lol:

topgunmv

Why do nvidia cards have such random memory amounts?

Nothing random about it. That's 1.5GB (more properly, 1.5GiB).

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#143 AnnoyedDragon
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pc gaming is in decline because there is not enough powerful software to really take advantage of the hardware.legol1

So to break down your argument, you are using the reduction in high end PC games this generation; to argue that PC is in decline? Essentially saying that developers lack of support for PC in this area, is a indication of developers not wanting to support it.

Of course, what if I were to point out that the exact same thing is happening on consoles? That the vast majority of console hardware utilizing games are paid for by the console 1st party, not the 3rd party. Therefore creating the illusion of market support where it does not exist.

Common sense suggests that if PC and consoles are showing the exact same thing, once you remove the artificial supplementation of the 1st party, then there are factors outside of the individual platforms that are at play here. Namely that development costs have skyrocketed, and 3rd party developers flight to safety is cross platform development or cheaper games.

The impact being a reduction in high end 3rd party exclusives across all platforms.

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#144 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="legol1"]pc gaming is in decline because there is not enough powerful software to really take advantage of the hardware.AnnoyedDragon

So to break down your argument, you are using the reduction in high end PC games this generation; to argue that PC is in decline? Essentially saying that developers lack of support for PC in this area, is a indication of developers not wanting to support it.

Of course, what if I were to point out that the exact same thing is happening on consoles? That the vast majority of console hardware utilizing games are paid for by the console 1st party, not the 3rd party. Therefore creating the illusion of market support where it does not exist.

Common sense suggests that if PC and consoles are showing the exact same thing, once you remove the artificial supplementation of the 1st party, then there are factors outside of the individual platforms that are at play here. Namely that development costs have skyrocketed, and 3rd party developers flight to safety is cross platform development or cheaper games.

The impact being a reduction in high end 3rd party exclusives across all platforms.

The opposite has been happening recently anyways. More and more multiplates are getting makeovers for the pc version.

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#145 AnnoyedDragon
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The opposite has been happening recently anyways. More and more multiplates are getting makeovers for the pc version.

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I wouldn't say makeovers, just ATI/NVIDIA sponsorship; throwing a few extra features in to justify their more up to date hardware. Frankly I think higher resolution art assets would add a lot more to the visual experience than GPU physics, ambient occlusion and tessellation. Hell, PC has memory to spare when it comes to console ports.

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#146 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

:roll: We use ours everyday, My GF love the thing, you have no idea what you are talking about, the Ipad is a awesome device.

Advid-Gamer

The iPad is just way over priced.

There are tablets that are out and coming out that are many times more powerful, offer much more and are cheaper.

I got mine for 396.00, have a family member that works for apple. Haters gonna hate, and there are tons of haters on this site.

I personally don't hate it. I just fell it's not ready for me. Call me again when it gets color e-ink and a better battery. I want to be able to use the thing as a viable e-book reader, indoors or out.
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#147 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Productive as in, used to a achieve a relevant task obviously. Video game systems are used to play video games, its not productive in the literal sense but they are meant for entertainment purposes. I think the point was that an iPad doesn't excell in any relevant area that other devices may. IE, Computer, better for work, internet browsing, watching movies, game systems, better for actually playing games.

icyseanfitz

If you people dont know how or what you can use a Ipad for, there is no point in discussing it. Nothing but haters on this site and I am sure they just want to bash the Ipad because they dont have one. This site is getting boring.

what can you do on an ipad that you cant on a netbook? which by the way will be much better speced for the price of an ipad, you have a somewhat biased opinion seeing as someone in your family works for apple

Try reading an e-book with one hand. I happen to be an avid reader and I love my Sony Reader. But I'd be willing to jump for a color e-ink device so I can start adding comic books to my collection.
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#148 Cruxis27
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The personal computer will never die, it can only take on a different form. Sonn.

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#149 KalDurenik
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The personal computer will never die, it can only take on a different form. Sonn.

Cruxis27
But will the PC always be a Computer if it take on a new form? Oh well i guess we wont be around by the time that kind of change happen anyway. :P
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#150 XIntoTheBlue
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I am a PC gamer, and PC is my prefered platform for games, as long as they will exist. However, looking into my crystal ball I can see that the PC gaming will die, because home PC themselves will die! The devices like iPad will rule at home, and as a result PC will be used mostly for work and at work. There will be less and less incentives to produce PC game, at the same time more and more games will come to iPad like devices.

It will not happen tomorow, but in 10 years I will bet that most homes will not have PC, but rather iPad-like device, or something build into TV...

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Now why the hell would I prefer an iPad or other mobile devices to a PC when it comes to video games? No other device has surpassed a desktop in terms of computing power. The iPad is no different. So find another reason why PC gaming is dying.