PC gaming IS dying... for different reason.

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Why do nvidia cards have such random memory amounts?

04dcarraher

To be honest, I have no idea.

I'm assuming those are all from nvidia cards? In which case I revert to my previous statement.

So your going to use your Ipad to make and test games?

So your going to use your Ipad to make and test games?

strangeisland

First of all, I did not say iPad will replace PC, I said iPad like devices - big difference. Today, it is iPad and Android tablets (are there good Windows 7 tablets?), in 10 years, they will be much better, much more functional, may be even with sliding keyboad. And yes, laptops will die too, because for HOME USE, tablet interface (touch screen) is just better.

Laptops and PCs will not exist if they are just purely gaming platform, they exist for different reasons, and those reasons will disapear with iPad devices being dominant...

MxM

How's is that random amount? thats 1.5 gb of memory, in the last 5 years we have had 256mb 384mb, 512mb 768mb, 1024mb, 1280mb, 1536mb, and 2048mb

04dcarraher

Because most of the time they were just doubling then they decided to do weird numbers, Nvidia adds 256 + 512 and weirdness like that.

First of all, I did not say iPad will replace PC, I said iPad like devices - big difference. Today, it is iPad and Android tablets (are there good Windows 7 tablets?), in 10 years, they will be much better, much more functional, may be even with sliding keyboad. And yes, laptops will die too, because for HOME USE, tablet interface (touch screen) is just better.

Laptops and PCs will not exist if they are just purely gaming platform, they exist for different reasons, and those reasons will disapear with iPad devices being dominant...

An Android tablet is essentialy a PC. A limited one, but still PC. Anyway, I doubt a standard computers will die anytime soon. I expect tablet computing to become very popular, but killing the laptop formfactor? Doubt it.

To be honest...most likely tablet games will die out in the next decade or two . Same with PC games and console games.

All those gaming platfrorms will propably die out as we know them now and be replaced with browser games. The current model of making separate versions for separate platforms just can't surive the increasings dev costfs forewer. In future we all will be playing browser games that we'll be able to access through variety of devices like smartphones, PCs, tablets, TV media centres etc

[QUOTE="McStrongfast"][QUOTE="MxM"]

First of all, I did not say iPad will replace PC, I said iPad like devices - big difference. Today, it is iPad and Android tablets (are there good Windows 7 tablets?), in 10 years, they will be much better, much more functional, may be even with sliding keyboad. And yes, laptops will die too, because for HOME USE, tablet interface (touch screen) is just better.

Laptops and PCs will not exist if they are just purely gaming platform, they exist for different reasons, and those reasons will disapear with iPad devices being dominant...

MxM

Yes, you miss my point. It is not that people will lose interest to PC games, it is that they will lose interest to PC itself. And PC only as a gaming platform will not prosper (will die). PC gaming exists only because there are PCs in the first place, and those PCs are used for many things, such as e-mail and internet browsing. Once those reasons disappear, and gaming will be the only reason to have PC, this platform will not survive.

We've been doing the internet and emails since the 90's yo. There has almost always been outdated desktops that can pull off basic tasks like those, I'd go out on a limb and declare that most PC's out there are not suitable/used for gaming. Hasn't killed PC gaming yet. Why would it in the future? Why would people interested in PC gaming predominantly purchase a PC on which there inexplicably is no such thing?

I'll add that in case something I say is dumb it's probably because I'm really tired in the head. Pre-emptive potential apologies.

An Android tablet is essentialy a PC. A limited one, but still PC. Anyway, I doubt a standard computers will die anytime soon. I expect tablet computing to become very popular, but killing the laptop formfactor? Doubt it.

To be honest...most likely tablet games will die out in the next decade or two . Same with PC games and console games.

All those gaming platfrorms will propably die out as we know them now and be replaced with browser games. The current model of making separate versions for separate platforms just can't surive the increasings dev costfs forewer. In future we all will be playing browser games that we'll be able to access through variety of devices like smartphones, PCs, tablets, TV media centres etc

AdrianWerner

There will be My Cloud powered by Google and people will make dumb Highlander jokes. Or well, old people like us anyway.

I suspect that a completely new system will emerge in next 10 years. A quantum computer per haps? Who knows? But the whole technological world will transform in a ways we can't even imagine today. Take an Emptiv EPOC for example, i expect that this brain-to-computer type controller will dominate the market as opposed to current input devices. You may think that the motion control is something unque, but controlling a game simply by thoughts is beyond everything... Humans also will start merge theyr minds (brains) into a network trough the brain-computer interface devices, literally greating an internet from brain to brain.

I suspect that a completely new system will emerge in next 10 years. A quantum computer per haps? Who knows? But the whole technological world will transform in a ways we can't even imagine today. Take an Emptiv EPOC for example, i expect that this brain-to-computer type controller will dominate the market as opposed to current input devices. You may think that the motion control is something unque, but controlling a game simply by thoughts is beyond everything... Humans also will start merge theyr minds (brains) into a network trough the brain-computer interface devices, literally greating an internet from brain to brain.

BattleforAzerot

So your going to use your Ipad to make and test games?

strangeisland

I hearby declare a jyhad on ALL topics of platforms dying. That goes for them all; PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, and PC.

AdobeArtist

What about DS is dying ?

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I hearby declare a jyhad on ALL topics of platforms dying. That goes for them all; PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, and PC.

R4gn4r0k

What about DS is dying ?

What bout dying is dying?

Everyone else advances double the previous amount. 4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024-2048.

topgunmv

And a 1.5 GB card can be cheaper than a 2 GB card.

It's all gravy when the first card I started out with back in '05 had only 256 MB.:P

There are already many alternatives for dekstops/laptops in theory, but a big screen and a good keyboard/mouse is still the most comfortable way to go when working or surfing the net for a longer period, I don't see people abandoning that for tablets.

I am a PC gamer, and PC is my prefered platform for games, as long as they will exist. However, looking into my crystal ball I can see that the PC gaming will die, because home PC themselves will die! The devices like iPad will rule at home, and as a result PC will be used mostly for work and at work. There will be less and less incentives to produce PC game, at the same time more and more games will come to iPad like devices.

It will not happen tomorow, but in 10 years I will bet that most homes will not have PC, but rather iPad-like device, or something build into TV...

MxM

I am a PC gamer, and PC is my prefered platform for games, as long as they will exist. However, looking into my crystal ball I can see that the PC gaming will die, because home PC themselves will die! The devices like iPad will rule at home, and as a result PC will be used mostly for work and at work. There will be less and less incentives to produce PC game, at the same time more and more games will come to iPad like devices.

It will not happen tomorow, but in 10 years I will bet that most homes will not have PC, but rather iPad-like device, or something build into TV...

MxM

What you say makes no sense. The ipad isn't catered for the gaming market. People who get the ipad as their primary form of computing device definitely don't play games...or don't play games in a way where they contribute to the growth of the gaming industry in general. PC gamers always have a gaming pc in addition to whatever peripherals they may get in future.

The whole 'consoles replacing the pc' argument makes more sense than your's. At least consoles are tailored for gamers, the same gamers who may want to game on the pc.

TC, judging by your logic, console gaming will die aswell.

I LOL'd at ipad replacing pc gaming haha

IPad... IPad?...... IPAD????????

Don't know what stuff you're smoking, TC, but it certainly IS very strong.

I'm pretty sure, from all the data we can easily find all over the place concerning PC gaming (presence on Steam, GoG, D2D etc, graphics cards sales, massive online success of so many games) that it is much bigger now than 10 years ago.

And seriously.... IPad? Who buys that over-priced piece of junk, apart from tech-nuts?

PCs will evolve of course, but I'm quite confident that in years to come you'll still find huge success for powerful systems equipped with this glory that is the KB/mouse combo (unsurpassed for many game genres to this day) and the possibility to plug in any other kind of controller. So PC gaming isn't going anywhere, except maybe through the roof....

Sad that I'm hearing this from a "PC gamer." Wasn't PC gaming suppose to die like 3 years ago?

SwagSurf

Shame that dev's use PC's to make the games.

Oh well, ill find a new hobby.

I hearby declare a jyhad on ALL topics of platforms dying. That goes for them all; PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, and PC.

AdobeArtist

I am a PC gamer, and PC is my prefered platform for games, as long as they will exist. However, looking into my crystal ball I can see that the PC gaming will die, because home PC themselves will die! The devices like iPad will rule at home, and as a result PC will be used mostly for work and at work. There will be less and less incentives to produce PC game, at the same time more and more games will come to iPad like devices.

It will not happen tomorow, but in 10 years I will bet that most homes will not have PC, but rather iPad-like device, or something build into TV...

MxM

pc is going more and more mobile. Who wants to keep their digital life at home?

pc is going more and more mobile. Who wants to keep their digital life at home?

dontshackzmii

Laptops have been around for a long time now. It's not news.

Seriously op, ipad is going to replace pc? A book reader?

The moment anyone says PC gaming is dying, they can be instantly disregarded, as they have demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of just what exactly PC gaming is. If they had any actual understanding, they would know it's next to indestructible.

Who do you take out to kill PC gaming? It is no single target, it is a collective of millions of companies selling their products and services on a open platform. Even if a major target like Intel or Nvidia were to go bankrupt, the free market fills the gap. Consoles on the other hand very easily die, their existence is dependant on the success of the 1st party in the games market. If they don't do good enough, they die, like the Sega system did.

pc is going more and more mobile. Who wants to keep their digital life at home?

dontshackzmii

Same could be said about consoles right? Especially with the crazy handheld market right now.

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pc is going more and more mobile. Who wants to keep their digital life at home?

edidili

Laptops have been around for a long time now. It's not news.

Seriously op, ipad is going to replace pc? A book reader?

The OP is so smart

Do you think I can play Shogun 2 on an ipad without it bursting into flames?

I hearby declare a jyhad on ALL topics of platforms dying. That goes for them all; PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, and PC.

AdobeArtist

the only people buying gaming desktops are gamers and the desktop is perfect for gamers seeing as its upgradeable (unlike laptops ipads and other gimmicks), in other words the whole gaming pc segment is being kept alive by us and we dont want to replace the desktop so it isnt going anywhere

the only people buying gaming desktops are gamers and the desktop is perfect for gamers seeing as its upgradeable (unlike laptops ipads and other gimmicks), in other words the whole gaming pc segment is being kept alive by us and we dont want to replace the desktop so it isnt going anywhere

icyseanfitz

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the only people buying gaming desktops are gamers and the desktop is perfect for gamers seeing as its upgradeable (unlike laptops ipads and other gimmicks), in other words the whole gaming pc segment is being kept alive by us and we dont want to replace the desktop so it isnt going anywhere

MxM

really so a normal pc needs an i7 and a specific mobo for that i7 as well as say a gtx 570, my pc shares basically nothing in common with an average pc besides the lcd and Ram, gaming pc's do not rely on pc technology built for low end consumers if anything its the other way around

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the only people buying gaming desktops are gamers and the desktop is perfect for gamers seeing as its upgradeable (unlike laptops ipads and other gimmicks), in other words the whole gaming pc segment is being kept alive by us and we dont want to replace the desktop so it isnt going anywhere

icyseanfitz

really so a normal pc needs an i7 and a specific mobo for that i7 as well as say a gtx 570, my pc shares basically nothing in common with an average pc besides the lcd and Ram, gaming pc's do not rely on pc technology built for low end consumers if anything its the other way around

Actually you would be surprised how easily it is to have a "gaming pc" even when you buy prebuilt.. I just finished taking a HP q8300, 4 gb ram, windows home personal computer that a family bought for 600 dollars a year and a half back from best buy and put a 5670 ATI graphics card in it... Now they are able to play countless new PC games in the medium quality range. PC hardware has outpaced performance needed by a great bit in last 2-3 years. PC gaming is redicoulously flexible so the "normal pc needs" is very subjective to what a user wants... Even my gaming Pc I have is well under the requirements of a I7, mobo for i7 and a gtx 570 but I can play every game maxxed out (exception metro 2033 which sits at 30 fps and cryostasis which is as 30 fps) on the monitors I have. The low end consumer to high end consumer is very offbase.. There is actually more low end consumer video cards, gpu's, and even ram on the market then the other way around.

PS... my statement is a combination between the 2 members stated above.. Not toward either one.

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[QUOTE="MxM"] Gaming PC shares lots of component with a standard PC. If there are no PC, producing only gaming PC becomes very expensive. Gaming PC relies on technology developed for non-gaming in mind. jedikevin2

really so a normal pc needs an i7 and a specific mobo for that i7 as well as say a gtx 570, my pc shares basically nothing in common with an average pc besides the lcd and Ram, gaming pc's do not rely on pc technology built for low end consumers if anything its the other way around

Actually you would be surprised how easily it is to have a "gaming pc" even when you buy prebuilt.. I just finished taking a HP q8300, 4 gb ram, windows home personal computer that a family bought for 600 dollars from best buy and put a 5670 ATI graphics card in it... Now they are able to play countless new PC games in the medium quality range. PC hardware has outpaced performance needed by a great bit in last 2-3 years. PC gaming is redicoulously flexible so the "normal pc needs" is very subjective to what a user wants... Even my gaming Pc I have is well under the requirements of a I7, mobo for i7 and a gtx 570 but I can play every game maxxed out (exception metro 2033 which sits at 30 fps and cryostasis which is as 30 fps) on the monitors I have.

i know this im just trying to point out that pc gamers are keeping the gaming tower alive as its the most versitile platform ever created and that lower end pc components are generally gimped from the higher end components not the other way around

The iPad and similar tablet computers are not PC's. They are a completely different market. If anything, the laptop market will die when the iPad and similar devices get powerful enough to match them (and cheap enough to afford). Nothing is dying here... and the iPad has no bearing on the state of PC gaming. Two entirely different animals (PC gaming being for gamers, and iPad gaming being for Starbucks-going non-gamers).

The iPad and similar tablet computers are not PC's. They are a completely different market. If anything, the laptop market will die when the iPad and similar devices get powerful enough to match them (and cheap enough to afford). Nothing is dying here... and the iPad has no bearing on the state of PC gaming. Two entirely different animals (PC gaming being for gamers, and iPad gaming being for Starbucks-going non-gamers).

foxhound_fox

Operating systems as we know it will die first in favour of cloud based OSs like Google Chrome and then local hardware will die out in favour of streamed services likes OnLive which will be HTML5/browser based.

So it may well be that people will end up playing games on tablets/ipads but they sure as hell won't be native apps like they are now.

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The iPad and similar tablet computers are not PC's. They are a completely different market. If anything, the laptop market will die when the iPad and similar devices get powerful enough to match them (and cheap enough to afford). Nothing is dying here... and the iPad has no bearing on the state of PC gaming. Two entirely different animals (PC gaming being for gamers, and iPad gaming being for Starbucks-going non-gamers).

Boomshaffted

That argument goes 2 fold as top exclusive console developers have also moved away to the multiplatform arena.. Ad in consoles keep moving toward being a PC, tv's are trying to incorporate computer technology so not seeing anything bad for PC.. Pc will always be there for the forseeable future... The winds of normality is blowing. mark my words. Pc gaming may be looking at the status quo for the next couple decades.

You could make a better argument that console platform is in slow and spectrum shift over the next 2 decades.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

The iPad and similar tablet computers are not PC's. They are a completely different market. If anything, the laptop market will die when the iPad and similar devices get powerful enough to match them (and cheap enough to afford). Nothing is dying here... and the iPad has no bearing on the state of PC gaming. Two entirely different animals (PC gaming being for gamers, and iPad gaming being for Starbucks-going non-gamers).

jedikevin2

That argument goes 2 fold as top exclusive console developers have also moved away to the multiplatform arena.. Ad in consoles keep moving toward being a PC, tv's are trying to incorporate computer technology so not seeing anything bad for PC.. Pc will always be there for the forseeable future... The winds of normality is blowing. mark my words. Pc gaming may be looking at the status quo for the next couple decades.

You could make a better argument that console platform is in slow and spectrum shift over the next 2 decades.