Official Halo Reach Thread

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#101 AgentA-Mi6
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I thought It was CGI at first but then I realized that cutscenes in Halo games have always used in game engine but I was tricked by the fact that there was absolutely no gameplay in the teaser and my brain made a correlation, no gameplay=CGI, sounds silly but most first shown trailers are CGI. :P Good thing I dont lose any sleep over any first person shooter unless its called Half Life Episode #.

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#102 Punjabiking101
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The trailer looks "okay" compared to ps3 games, but then again it looks better than any halo game before, and it still has ayear to improve. Day one buy for me. :)

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#103 gago-gago
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Halo Reach is definitely the best looking Bungie Halo game. Can't wait to rent ODST to get into the Reach beta.

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#104 LOXO7
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I don't know... New game engine takes shorter time to dev for?

Halo 3 2.4 years since rumored. http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/news.html?sid=6121637&mode=news

Halo odst 1.8 years http://www.gamespot.com/news/6198181.html?tag=result;title;8

Halo Reach 1.25 years http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/haloreach/news.html?sid=6210617&mode=news

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#105 navyguy21
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I don't know... New game engine takes shorter time to dev for?

Halo 3 2.4 years since rumored.

Halo odst 1.8 years

Halo Reach 1.25 years

LOXO7

Firstly, ODST was initially an expansion pack (was called Recon) but they had so much content that it bloomed into a full game

Secondly, the ODST team were comprised of the team that are workin on Reach, they just allocated them there to finish the project.

Thirdly, No dev does one job at a time unless they are small. For all we know, they couldve been working on the new engine when Halo 3 went gold. Thats a long time to create an engine...........especially if you only dev on one platform ;)

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#106 After_Math
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

I don't know... New game engine takes shorter time to dev for?

Halo 3 2.4 years since rumored.

Halo odst 1.8 years

Halo Reach 1.25 years

navyguy21

Firstly, ODST was initially an expansion pack (was called Recon) but they had so much content that it bloomed into a full game

Secondly, the ODST team were comprised of the team that are workin on Reach, they just allocated them there to finish the project.

Thirdly, No dev does one job at a time unless they are small. For all we know, they couldve been working on the new engine when Halo 3 went gold. Thats a long time to create an engine...........especially if you only dev on one platform ;)

Just want to clarify some points: Yes, Halo: Recon evolved into Halo: ODST as the project became bigger and more ambitious than Bungie originally planned. The ODST team was a small group of team members, most of the studio were working on Reach. When ODST finished, the team went to work on Reach as well.
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#107 nhh18
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halo reach looks amazing. The girls face though looks like a doll. And needs alot of touching up. If she is one of the main characters and I have to hear her talk make her model decent bungie.

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#108 Ultra_Combo
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Wow that was the first HD trailer I saw, before that I thought KZ2 looked at tad better. But if Reach really looks like that in game,and that's a big if then console graphics king fo sho IMO. And LOL at some cows comments looks ok compared to PS3 games, yah keep telling yourself that.
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#109 web966
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It looks really good, a big graphical improvement from Halo 3
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#110 D00nut
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Hopefully Reach won't make Halo evolve into a corridor shooter and still retain the same openness that most of Halo's battles hold.

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#111 93soccer
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halo reach looks amazing. The girls face though looks like a doll. And needs alot of touching up. If she is one of the main characters and I have to hear her talk make her model decent bungie.

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But she's gonna be wearing a helmet and you probably won't see her face :| Anyways, the trailer was amazing and it made me wanna pre order the game right now!!
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#112 swimdeadfish
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this will single-handedly destroy the ps3.

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#113 SpiritOfFire117
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I loved the trailer. The graphics looked great. The Spartan with the skull painted on his visor looked badass. As usual, Martin O'Donnel does a great job with the music. I also was quick to point out the "ONI" mention. I wonder how many of the users bashing this even know what ONI is? :? Overall, Halo Reach looks very promising.
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#114 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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I loved the trailer. The graphics looked great. The Spartan with the skull painted on his visor looked badass. As usual, Martin O'Donnel does a great job with the music. I also was quick to point out the "ONI" mention. I wonder how many of the users bashing this even know what ONI is? :? Overall, Halo Reach looks very promising.SpiritOfFire117

Those were my thoughts exactly :)

I'm also going to make a prediction here. That we'll see appearances from Sgt Johnson, Capt Keyes, and Cortana, but only much later in the game. When you figure how this game directly connects to Halo CE, where that game begins, it is only logical. I'm also predicting that the last 2 or 3 levels (or the last 3 stages of the last level) the mission objective will be about securing what is referred to as a "precious cargo", that is to say Master Chief's stasis pod, getting it aboard the Pillar of Autumn, and then making that final getaway from Reach. And no I fully expect NO appearance from the famous 117 at all, just his pod.

Since no other Spartans are seen in Halo CE, I'm kinda figuring you and your team make some sort of sacrifice to allow the PoA to make its escape.

I don't know if I should have put all that into a spoiler tag, but since Halo 1 has been around long enough, didn't really figure that would be necessary, as far as my Reach predictions go :oops:

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#115 VoodooHak
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Halo reach is about Jai-006 from gray team.

If you read the Halo books you'll know who this is and from the trailer it esay to tell. Grey team is a group made of 3 Spartans who where train to fight
independently from the others due being loners.

The Spartan that got off the wort hog was only wearing grey for one and the other Spartans called him a lone wolf.

So no more master cheif.....

So we trade one guy who doesn't talk enough for another guy who doesn't talk enough but has issues.....

Darn it, just show some gameplay.

dreman999

More specifically, he said, "I'm glad to have your skillset, but you can leave that lone wolf stuff behind."

"Is that our new six?"

"Yep"

To me, that says squad-based gameplay like Ghost Recon or maybe Republic Commando with the player controlling the new Lt..I'mthinking that the "six" reference was the team lead designation based on contemporary convention, telling meyou/he willbe issuing orders to the rest of the SPARTANs.

At least, that's my take on it.

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#117 AndyAlfredo
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this will single-handedly destroy the ps3.

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Couldn't be SW without posts like this!

No, it won't single-handedly destroy the PS3, but it looks like it may be one of the best if not the best FPS of all time. And when one of the Spartans said "You can leave than lone wolf stuff behind," it seems as though this game will encourage teamwork, maybe 4 player split screen or even more than 4 player online. The there's the multiplayer which will be amazing, new awesome maps, hopefully still no perks.

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#118 DonPerian
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God, another year another Halo. Don't you want to play anything else Lemmings?? I mean apart from Gears as well.

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#120 mr-krinkles
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

God, another year another Halo. Don't you want to play anything else Lemmings?? I mean apart from Gears as well.

DonPerian

Your comment was not needed.

Lol, I just saw the trailer...

It actually looks really sick.

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#121 BioShockOwnz
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Another 9.5 incoming. Halo Reach will be the next stellar FPS. MW2 who?

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#122 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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God, another year another Halo. Don't you want to play anything else Lemmings?? I mean apart from Gears as well.

mr-krinkles

hmmm, now that you mention it, I do want to play Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Forza 3, PGR 4, Beyonetta, Castlevania Lords of Shadow, Dead or Alive 4, SoulCalibur 4, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, and L4D2.

Wait a min!!! I CAN play all those on the X360 :o :o :o

Why didn't someone tell me this before I threw my console against the wall after reading MrKrinkles post??? :x

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#123 Cait__Sith
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Another 9.5 incoming. Halo Reach will be the next stellar FPS. MW2 who?

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Battlefield 3 will be the shooter of 2010.
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#124 Halo__Reach
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Another 9.5 incoming. Halo Reach will be the next stellar FPS. MW2 who?

BioShockOwnz
but until then mw2 is KING.
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#125 mr-krinkles
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

God, another year another Halo. Don't you want to play anything else Lemmings?? I mean apart from Gears as well.

AdobeArtist

hmmm, now that you mention it, I do want to play Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Forza 3, PGR 4, Beyonetta, Castlevania Lords of Shadow, Dead or Alive 4, SoulCalibur 4, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, and L4D2.

Wait a min!!! I CAN play all those on the X360 :o :o :o

Why didn't someone tell me this before I threw my console against the wall after reading MrKrinkles post??? :x

At least that saved it from the RROD!

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#126 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

God, another year another Halo. Don't you want to play anything else Lemmings?? I mean apart from Gears as well.

mr-krinkles

hmmm, now that you mention it, I do want to play Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Forza 3, PGR 4, Beyonetta, Castlevania Lords of Shadow, Dead or Alive 4, SoulCalibur 4, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, and L4D2.

Wait a min!!! I CAN play all those on the X360 :o :o :o

Why didn't someone tell me this before I threw my console against the wall after reading MrKrinkles post??? :x

At least that saved it from the RROD!

Translation - couldn't actually back up what you originally said, when I completely dismembered your fail point, could you?

Or, would you prefer I retort with, "and what's saving your console from 3rd place?" ;)

In the fashion of an RPG, I'll let you choose which was my response, and then you can take it from there :P

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#127 mr-krinkles
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

hmmm, now that you mention it, I do want to play Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Forza 3, PGR 4, Beyonetta, Castlevania Lords of Shadow, Dead or Alive 4, SoulCalibur 4, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, and L4D2.

Wait a min!!! I CAN play all those on the X360 :o :o :o

Why didn't someone tell me this before I threw my console against the wall after reading MrKrinkles post??? :x

AdobeArtist

At least that saved it from the RROD!

Translation - couldn't actually back up what you originally said, when I completely dismembered your fail point, could you?

Or, would you prefer I retort with, "and what's saving your console from 3rd place?" ;)

In the fashion of an RPG, I'll let you choose which was my response, and then you can take it from there :P

Trolling is a art.

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#128 eNT1TY
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Can't wait for some local multiplayer, online is going to rock without a doubt but i get the feeling they will have some pleasant and unique surprises for local multiplay as well. This is the biggest title of 2010 and i dare say the only proper halo game after the masterpiece that was CE, this is what halo 3 should have been all along. I know there isnt that much info available but all will see this will be quite the departure from halo 2 and 3 and be closer in spirit to CE.

Visuals are quite decent but i believe there are better looking 360 games out already (and this is judging what the cutscene trailer has shown) but that is of no consequence, it by no means looks bad and halo was never about teh graphix. GOTY contender, sales king of the generation, biggest and longest lasting community of the generation (excluding WoW), highest number of pre-orders both retail and online, and highest grossing entertainment product of the decade!!!!!

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#129 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Trolling is a art.

mr-krinkles

You certainly would know, wouldn't you?

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#130 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

Trolling is a art.

AdobeArtist

You certainly would know, wouldn't you?

Why isnt he banned/suspended yet? I mean he clearly admits to trolling and annoying people
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#131 mr-krinkles
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

Trolling is a art.

AdobeArtist

You certainly would know, wouldn't you?

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#133 Rza_rectah
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I might check this game out it might restore myrespect forhalo.

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#134 PrimusGears
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I love the guy that uses the machette. Skull and Cross Bones. Game is gonna be EPIC.

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#135 Mordred19
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Graphics looked nice, though I care more about the music. That bit that played in the opening was especially nice.

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#136 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Graphics looked nice, though I care more about the music. That bit that played in the opening was especially nice.

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#137 iwasgood2u
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Another 9.5 incoming. Halo Reach will be the next stellar FPS. MW2 who?

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killzone big 3 baby. halo reach for a straw?
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#138 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Taken from another thread:

[QUOTE="gsgdvcbsa"]Final confirmation on Reach's graphics straight from a Bungie employee: "What you guys saw was in-engine and in-game but many underestimate how thoughtful camera work and tuned lighting can effect one's perceptions. Even when using the same engine and assets, a pre-planned and choreographed scene will always have more impact than an impromptu user controlled scene. I think this is where translation from an in-game cinematic to in-game play can breakdown. My two cents." Link: http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39658478&postRepeater1-p=2AdobeArtist

System Wars venerable tech expert, Teufulhuhn, had explained this very point. Choreographed cinematics where the camera is controlled, allows the renders to optomize the textures and lighting where its needed most (where the camera is always pointed). Whereas actual gameplay, where the camera is user controlled, means the textures have to be more flexible and adjustable to unpredictable direction.

So cinematics can be in-engine, but there's a difference between in-engine and in-game, and why cinematics will always look better than gameplay. This is true of any game where cinematics are using the game engine.

And Bungie delivered exactly on what they promised, a showcase of the game engine. There was NO CGI there. Fanboys simply tried to twist the words that Bungie suppoosedly promised gameplay footage to try and fabricate ownage, where they can't actually claim it.

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#139 Mordred19
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I'm glad to hear that the tone of the game will be very bleak. That is really the only thing appropriate for such a large-scale battle that's also doomed to fail. Too many jokes and quips between spartans wouldn't seem believable for this.

I remember that Bungie wanted to have melee combos in Halo 2, but they had to make a choice between that and duel wielding. Hopefully, we can have both, and that melee combat won't simply be a matter of elbowing something and it dies when the hit points are low enough, but at the same time, it's not something that would be handeled with quick-time events, for instance.

It would be great to have a sprint ability, to really show off a Spartan's strength and agility. Click the left stick, accelerate to top speed, and then deliver a kick that can flip over a car.

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#140 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

hmmm, now that you mention it, I do want to play Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Forza 3, PGR 4, Beyonetta, Castlevania Lords of Shadow, Dead or Alive 4, SoulCalibur 4, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, and L4D2.

Wait a min!!! I CAN play all those on the X360 :o :o :o

Why didn't someone tell me this before I threw my console against the wall after reading MrKrinkles post??? :x

AdobeArtist

At least that saved it from the RROD!

Translation - couldn't actually back up what you originally said, when I completely dismembered your fail point, could you?

Or, would you prefer I retort with, "and what's saving your console from 3rd place?" ;)

In the fashion of an RPG, I'll let you choose which was my response, and then you can take it from there :P

Dang nice. The first post of yours was the jab then the second was a right cross. He was owned in both posts.

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#141 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"]

At least that saved it from the RROD!

CanYouDiglt

Translation - couldn't actually back up what you originally said, when I completely dismembered your fail point, could you?

Or, would you prefer I retort with, "and what's saving your console from 3rd place?" ;)

In the fashion of an RPG, I'll let you choose which was my response, and then you can take it from there :P

Dang nice. The first post of yours was the jab then the second was a right cross. He was owned in both posts.

Did you see his later comments (perhaps even an admission) of trolling? He then replies about how w was just "joking", but deletes that post. Looks like he realized he had to make a strategic withdrawl ;)

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#142 Wasdie  Moderator
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So am I blind, or does Halo Reach look just average for graphics?

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#143 navyguy21
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So am I blind, or does Halo Reach look just average for graphics?

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PC gamer i suppose? :P
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#144 WilliamRLBaker
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So am I blind, or does Halo Reach look just average for graphics?

Wasdie
yes your blind.
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#145 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

So am I blind, or does Halo Reach look just average for graphics?

navyguy21
PC gamer i suppose? :P

Yeah, but even still I was very unimpressed by it. I mean Uncharted 2 is pretty hard to beat, Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 are also major lookers. I just saw bland environments. Though they were very open which makes me very happy. I love Halo and I love the large battles.
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#146 bochoy
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Perhaps it's the art direction/style that's not appealing to you?
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#147 Wasdie  Moderator
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Perhaps it's the art direction/style that's not appealing to you?bochoy

There is this really fake quality about all of the Halo games. They have a cartoonish overtone and the graphics engine has TONS of rough edges (tons of sprites, low res textures, bad enviromental models).

Watching the trailer I saw nothing to spectacular. I mean people complained about the lack of color in Killzone 2 and Halo Reach had this really dark overtone to it. Don't get me wrong I am excited for the game, I love Halo, I am just saying that the graphics didn't blow me away one bit.

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#148 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

So am I blind, or does Halo Reach look just average for graphics?

WilliamRLBaker

yes your blind.

As i read through these i keep getting the impression that its YOU that needs to pull of the fanboy goggles...

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#149 timmy00
Member since 2006 • 15360 Posts

Halo Reach graphics isn't the best but it certainly isn't bad. Of course this is on;y a trailer so I'll wait for the full game to decide.

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#150 iwasgood2u
Member since 2009 • 831 Posts

So am I blind, or does Halo Reach look just average for graphics?

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ur opinion will anger the fanboys. shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! someone....................... lend wasdie your goggles. help him see the rainbow graphics of Reach.