Microsoft is getting slaughtered by the press regarding XB1

Below is some links to various articles about the XB1. It's not looking good at all for Microsoft.

• BBC: Xbox One: Microsoft defends pre-owned games rules
• Blorge: Why gamers hate the Xbox One
• Complex: Microsoft Finally Reveals Xbox One Details, It's Mostly All Bad News
• Destructoid: Xbox One kills game ownership, here's what Xbox fans say
• Eurogamer: Microsoft kills game ownership and expects us to smile
• Forbes Contributor: Microsoft Confirms Gamers' Fears Over Xbox One
• Forbes Contributor (2): Microsoft's Shortsighted Approach Might Have Already Killed Xbox One
• Forbes Contributor (3): The Xbox One Might Let Sony's PS4 Win By Default
• Giant Bomb: The Giant Bomb staff deciphers the digital-rights policies for Microsoft's new console through interpretive dance
• Kotaku: The Xbox One Just Had A Very Bad Day
• Kotaku (2): When Will Gamers Say Enough Is Enough?
• LazyGamer: Microsoft confirms insane Xbox One DRM
• MCV UK: Indie retailers desperate for Xbox One pre-owned answers
• MCV UK (2): Publishers quiet over Xbox One pre-owned intentions
• Metro UK: Xbox One and the corporate war against consumers
• NowGamer: Xbox One: It's For Publishers, Not For You
• PC Magazine: Microsoft Xbox One: No Internet? Big Problem
• Polygon: Xbox One policy is a lovely marriage proposal to big corporations
• TechnoBuffalo: Xbox One and Used, Borrowed and Sold Games The Official Word
• TechnoBuffalo (2): Xbox One: Unless Microsoft Changes Their Policies, Im Out
• TechRadar: Xbox One 'always online': What does it mean for gamers?
• TechSpot: Xbox One will force gamers to stay online after all
• The Diplomat: Has Microsoft Already Ruined the Xbox One?
• The Guardian: Xbox One requires daily net connection
• The Wall Street Journal: Microsofts Xbox One: Owning Your Video Games Is So 1994
• Time: Microsofts Xbox One Used Games Policies Are Clear as Mud
• VG247: Xbox One: the record is broken, long live the record
• WhatCulture!: Xbox One: 10 Shocking Things You Wont Believe

*Thanks to GAF for the list*

dream431ca

If you stop and think about it for a second, that is really really crazy.  There's really been ZERO positive press on the device.  The closest comparison would be the Virtual Boy.

I think most gamers around forums like these are hating on the Xbone and rightly so,its a very anti-consumer product.

There are really only a few hardcore lems(idiots) around here who are saying Xbone is a good thing and I expect even they are secretly going to get PS4 instead.

Right on, press. More of this please.

This is like the definitive; whose side are you on?
Are you just gonna sit there in silence while Microsoft blatantly aims to f*** over your readers in favor of Gamestop and publishers, or are you gonna help us?

good. Now maybe they'll do something about it. Drop the game fee. Connect ONE time for activation. Allow me to own the game and decide what I want to do with it,  and keep XBL the same price and I'll buy it day one (if the upcoming games look good).

EDIT: otherwise, I probably will just go play a sport and read books.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

They have E3 to packpedal or to fully commit to these draconian anti consumer policies.

TigerSuperman

They have E3 to packpedal or to fully commit to these draconian anti consumer policies.

SolidTy

It doesnt matter. The console will still sell and sell well. Heil68

I agree. Although I'm set on a PS4, if the XB1 has enough games that I want, I'll buy one too regardless of its "issues."

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]and they should be. almost everything about their new console sounds awful. mems_1224

it deserves the hate it getsNEWMAHAY

Noticed your signature... Last Of Us flopped? Since when as it's not out for another 6/7 days (depending where in the World you are at the moment), and currently has a metacritic score of 96 from 61 reviews.  Are mega-lems THAT desperate that they have to go making up shit to justify their faith in a console and a company that is selling them down the river one DRM game at a time??

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="legalize82"] and this is coming from you ? a super lem? ... this must be bad than....charlesdarwin55

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]it deserves the hate it getsOmenUK

Noticed your signature... Last Of Us flopped? Since when as it's not out for another 6/7 days (depending where in the World you are at the moment), and currently has a metacritic score of 96 from 61 reviews.  Are mega-lems THAT desperate that they have to go making up shit to justify their faith in a console and a company that is selling them down the river one DRM game at a time??

The article from Eurogamer is quite a read. Or should I say a reall eye opener.

And...

That is one review out of 61 so far, and the average score is still an impressive 96/100  in addition to that every review so far has been positive, if you are going to try making comments about the PS3 at least be an intelligient lem and use factually correct information, rather than being a trolling lem that makes s**t up because we both know deep down, when the new consoles are released you'll be among the first lems to jump ship to the PS4.

You people should really wait for E3.Bazooka_4ME

Why? We already know their policies on games and it sucks. Anybody who buys this thing is giving up all their consumer rights.

Below is some links to various articles about the XB1. It's not looking good at all for Microsoft.

• BBC: Xbox One: Microsoft defends pre-owned games rules
• Blorge: Why gamers hate the Xbox One
• Complex: Microsoft Finally Reveals Xbox One Details, It's Mostly All Bad News
• Destructoid: Xbox One kills game ownership, here's what Xbox fans say
• Eurogamer: Microsoft kills game ownership and expects us to smile
• Forbes Contributor: Microsoft Confirms Gamers' Fears Over Xbox One
• Forbes Contributor (2): Microsoft's Shortsighted Approach Might Have Already Killed Xbox One
• Forbes Contributor (3): The Xbox One Might Let Sony's PS4 Win By Default
• Giant Bomb: The Giant Bomb staff deciphers the digital-rights policies for Microsoft's new console through interpretive dance
• Kotaku: The Xbox One Just Had A Very Bad Day
• Kotaku (2): When Will Gamers Say Enough Is Enough?
• LazyGamer: Microsoft confirms insane Xbox One DRM
• MCV UK: Indie retailers desperate for Xbox One pre-owned answers
• MCV UK (2): Publishers quiet over Xbox One pre-owned intentions
• Metro UK: Xbox One and the corporate war against consumers
• NowGamer: Xbox One: It's For Publishers, Not For You
• PC Magazine: Microsoft Xbox One: No Internet? Big Problem
• Polygon: Xbox One policy is a lovely marriage proposal to big corporations
• TechnoBuffalo: Xbox One and Used, Borrowed and Sold Games The Official Word
• TechnoBuffalo (2): Xbox One: Unless Microsoft Changes Their Policies, Im Out
• TechRadar: Xbox One 'always online': What does it mean for gamers?
• TechSpot: Xbox One will force gamers to stay online after all
• The Diplomat: Has Microsoft Already Ruined the Xbox One?
• The Guardian: Xbox One requires daily net connection
• The Wall Street Journal: Microsofts Xbox One: Owning Your Video Games Is So 1994
• Time: Microsofts Xbox One Used Games Policies Are Clear as Mud
• VG247: Xbox One: the record is broken, long live the record
• WhatCulture!: Xbox One: 10 Shocking Things You Wont Believe

*Thanks to GAF for the list*

dream431ca

I could've sworn I've seen these links in another thread...gago-gago

You people should really wait for E3.Bazooka_4ME

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]You people should really wait for E3.NathanDrakeSwag

Why? We already know their policies on games and it sucks. Anybody who buys this thing is giving up all their consumer rights.

Exactly. I'm going to hold off. No day 1 purchase and I don't plan on getting it either.

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]You people should really wait for E3.McStrongfast

Say's the butthurt little  lem that doesn't like the truth that they're being left behind with an inferior console compared with the Playstation, all those articles link to people saying the same thing, you can deny it blindly all you want but you know damn well those articles tell it as it is.

Lmao so many people in this thread justifying this shit or hoping sony has something similar, it's hilarious and sad at the same time. 

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] No, that is not the law in Europe. Sorry. Copyright belongs to the copyright holder. It is licensed to you. It comes with an end-user license agreement stipulating what you may or may not do with your copy. That is all you own. A copy. The publisher is not obliged to ensure that copy can be transferred to anyone else or enjoyed by anyone else but the person they sell it to.Ninja-Hippo

In EU you have the right to sell even PC games..:lol:

So i could see MS getting in trouble in EU for the xbox one.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118245-EU-Court-Legalizes-Selling-Used-Digital-Games

You are wrong.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

In EU you have the right to sell even PC games..:lol:

So i could see MS getting in trouble in EU for the xbox one.

tormentos

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118245-EU-Court-Legalizes-Selling-Used-Digital-Games

You are wrong.

Nobody can stop you re-selling something you own. The right of first sale generally over-rules EULAs in most circumstances, although there have been cases where that was not the case. In terms of your legal right to re-sell something however, I find myself repeating what I have already told you. A publisher cannot stop you trading, selling or giving away your copy of a game. *They are under no obligation to make sure that the game then works for the person you gave it to.*

Your own link even makes this distinction. Can they stop you selling your games? No. Can a message come up on the screen of the person you sold it to saying "Sorry - no game for you." ? Yes.

When it comes to consoles, the X1 is like a celebrity that you're going to hear everything about, good or bad. Meanwhile the ps4 is that average joe that no one cares about.Karnage108

So the xbox is Amanda Bynes?

Holy shit, this all makes sense now.

All MS has to do is say something. But I doubt they will until E3, where even when they debunk all the statements tossed around the fatique of hatred will be too high to care.TigerSuperman

and they should be. almost everything about their new console sounds awful. mems_1224

Nobody should buy the xbox1 there is a listening device and a spycam that can't be turned off.  The mandatory 24hr internet check in. The insane drm and the closed box with no comp. Oh xbox live you still have to pay for that also. It is also weaker than the ps4 that has more exclusive games. Not sure why anybody would buy this x1 crap. Still sony might be just as bad on used games.

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Nobody should buy the xbox1 there is a listening device and a spycam that can't be turned off. 

no-scope-AK47

ignorance is bliss

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

Nobody should buy the xbox1 there is a listening device and a spycam that can't be turned off. 

R3FURBISHED

ignorance is bliss

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

Nobody should buy the xbox1 there is a listening device and a spycam that can't be turned off. 

no-scope-AK47

ignorance is bliss

So they're lying when they said:

You can pause Kinect if you don't want it on while playing games. From there, you can still say "Xbox Off" to turn off the console. When Xbox One is off, it's only listening for the "Xbox On" voice command, Microsoft said, and you can turn that feature off too. "Some apps and games may require Kinect functionality to operate, so you'll need to turn it back on for these experiences."

[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"]Good to know some of the biggest gaming sites are dragging the X1 :cool:tormentos

Everthing was confirmed..:lol:

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"] With unconfirmed statements and rumors.TigerSuperman

Everthing was confirmed..:lol:

Lol and WHO ARE YOU AGAIN? Your word is basically nothing against the clusterfuk that is the media and the entire internet.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Below is some links to various articles about the XB1. It's not looking good at all for Microsoft.

• BBC: Xbox One: Microsoft defends pre-owned games rules
• Blorge: Why gamers hate the Xbox One
• Complex: Microsoft Finally Reveals Xbox One Details, It's Mostly All Bad News
• Destructoid: Xbox One kills game ownership, here's what Xbox fans say
• Eurogamer: Microsoft kills game ownership and expects us to smile
• Forbes Contributor: Microsoft Confirms Gamers' Fears Over Xbox One
• Forbes Contributor (2): Microsoft's Shortsighted Approach Might Have Already Killed Xbox One
• Forbes Contributor (3): The Xbox One Might Let Sony's PS4 Win By Default
• Giant Bomb: The Giant Bomb staff deciphers the digital-rights policies for Microsoft's new console through interpretive dance
• Kotaku: The Xbox One Just Had A Very Bad Day
• Kotaku (2): When Will Gamers Say Enough Is Enough?
• LazyGamer: Microsoft confirms insane Xbox One DRM
• MCV UK: Indie retailers desperate for Xbox One pre-owned answers
• MCV UK (2): Publishers quiet over Xbox One pre-owned intentions
• Metro UK: Xbox One and the corporate war against consumers
• NowGamer: Xbox One: It's For Publishers, Not For You
• PC Magazine: Microsoft Xbox One: No Internet? Big Problem
• Polygon: Xbox One policy is a lovely marriage proposal to big corporations
• TechnoBuffalo: Xbox One and Used, Borrowed and Sold Games The Official Word
• TechnoBuffalo (2): Xbox One: Unless Microsoft Changes Their Policies, Im Out
• TechRadar: Xbox One 'always online': What does it mean for gamers?
• TechSpot: Xbox One will force gamers to stay online after all
• The Diplomat: Has Microsoft Already Ruined the Xbox One?
• The Guardian: Xbox One requires daily net connection
• The Wall Street Journal: Microsofts Xbox One: Owning Your Video Games Is So 1994
• Time: Microsofts Xbox One Used Games Policies Are Clear as Mud
• VG247: Xbox One: the record is broken, long live the record
• WhatCulture!: Xbox One: 10 Shocking Things You Wont Believe

*Thanks to GAF for the list*

blackace

[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

Everthing was confirmed..:lol:

Crossel777

Lol and WHO ARE YOU AGAIN? Your word is basically nothing against the clusterfuk that is the media and the entire internet.

Good, maybe this will convince Microsoft to change its tune.Stevo_the_gamer

All I know is that I have zero interest in getting one at this moment.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Good, maybe this will convince Microsoft to change its tune.TigerSuperman

No I'm not. And the fact that you just posted a link to a general EU story about digital rights management and hoped it might prove a point rather than making one yourself shows that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

 

Nobody can stop you re-selling something you own. The right of first sale generally over-rules EULAs in most circumstances, although there have been cases where that was not the case. In terms of your legal right to re-sell something however, I find myself repeating what I have already told you. A publisher cannot stop you trading, selling or giving away your copy of a game. *They are under no obligation to make sure that the game then works for the person you gave it to.*

 

Your own link even makes this distinction. Can they stop you selling your games? No. Can a message come up on the screen of the person you sold it to saying "Sorry - no game for you." ? Yes.

Ninja-Hippo

Buying and reselling any form of digital software is perfectly legal, the Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled. Software authors or in the gaming world, publishers can not stop customers from reselling their games, even if the publisher attaches an End User License Agreement prohibiting resale.

"The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale," the court has found.

This ruling covers customers in European Union member states, and games bought through services such as Steam or Origin. The initial purchaser is now entitled to sell the license of a game and allow someone else to download it directly from the publisher's website. The tricky part now is selling the actual license, since there is no system in place for any such transaction. The initial buyer would need a code for a game's license and upon selling it, he would no longer be able to access that game on his account.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/07/03/eu-court-rules-its-legal-to-resell-digital-games-software/

Please they can even download it from the servers of the game seller..:lol:

EULA is not abode the law not matter what they put there.