Microsoft is getting slaughtered by the press regarding XB1

,microsoft say that they will not control games price on xbox marketplace who know maybe it will become steam like

nyzma23

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]PS4 reminds me an awful lot of PSP and Vita. A great machine for gamers which garners a lot of love and hype from gamers, but ultimately it's the reason why Sony are in the financial mess they're in. They're going around the same circle of offering gamers better hardware and better graphics and the same fundamental experiences every few years. PSP showed that people didn't care about graphics. Vita has demonstrated that ten fold. PS4 I think may be the same. Graphics have reached a level of fidelity now that I really doubt the next COD or Madden will look good enough to urge many people to run out and replace the PS3 they already own, which still feels perfectly capable. Microsoft have made a machine not aimed to appease gamers at all from the looks of things, but I have no doubt it will probably be a successful and popular machine because it's more in-tune with the future and what the broader population wants. The always-on, always-connected, cloud-based, all your games stored online, instant-gratification kind of setup is rejected from traditional gamers but exactly what people have wanted and bought into with every other entertainment industry. Look at iTunes, Netflix, Kindle. Microsoft want the xbox to be the gaming equivalent of those services. An entertainment service provider moreso than a platform holder.tormentos

Stop been a joke the reason why sony is in financial problems was the damn PS3 which they give player to much for to little,it was to expensive to make and they pay for it.

I hate people like you who defend companies like MS who all they do is rip off people,and then you flame sony who yeah loss a ton of money by giving people the best hardware a dollar has even buy in terms of value.

Is incredible how you give MS who just strip you of your rights as a gamer to sell something you legally own and give sony such a hard time,people like you deserve to be rip off by companies like MS,we have a say here that people get what they deserve..

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]PS4 reminds me an awful lot of PSP and Vita. A great machine for gamers which garners a lot of love and hype from gamers, but ultimately it's the reason why Sony are in the financial mess they're in. They're going around the same circle of offering gamers better hardware and better graphics and the same fundamental experiences every few years. PSP showed that people didn't care about graphics. Vita has demonstrated that ten fold. PS4 I think may be the same. Graphics have reached a level of fidelity now that I really doubt the next COD or Madden will look good enough to urge many people to run out and replace the PS3 they already own, which still feels perfectly capable. Microsoft have made a machine not aimed to appease gamers at all from the looks of things, but I have no doubt it will probably be a successful and popular machine because it's more in-tune with the future and what the broader population wants. The always-on, always-connected, cloud-based, all your games stored online, instant-gratification kind of setup is rejected from traditional gamers but exactly what people have wanted and bought into with every other entertainment industry. Look at iTunes, Netflix, Kindle. Microsoft want the xbox to be the gaming equivalent of those services. An entertainment service provider moreso than a platform holder.tormentos

Stop been a joke the reason why sony is in financial problems was the damn PS3 which they give player to much for to little,it was to expensive to make and they pay for it.

I hate people like you who defend companies like MS who all they do is rip off people,and then you flame sony who yeah loss a ton of money by giving people the best hardware a dollar has even buy in terms of value.

Is incredible how you give MS who just strip you of your rights as a gamer to sell something you legally own and give sony such a hard time,people like you deserve to be rip off by companies like MS,we have a say here that people get what they deserve..

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] man stfu defending this bullcrap... go buy your drmbox leave ps4 for the true gamersBigboi500

quick EDIT: I can never be a 'true gamer' as I've already lost my virginity and graduated college.

Actually MS won't

:P

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Man fvck Call of Duty and sh*t like it. Let's talk about first party. Sony already said they wont have drm for that, but Microsoft will. Now what?

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="legalize82"] and who started this crap ? evil empire MS who knows people like u are donkeys.. yhis is a last minute decision why do u think this pile of crap is not ready atlaunch ? they had pretty muchother plans more evil but they heard the internets and made it look softer... bah Ninja-Hippo

Publishers are going to flock to the console with the most gamers. Microsoft has spread the XB1 way too thin. Sony is focusing on games from the get-go which should be a large beacon for publishers. 

Good to know some of the biggest gaming sites are dragging the X1 :cool:Kaszilla

and they should be. almost everything about their new console sounds awful. mems_1224

Actually it isn't. It's getting slaughtered by dumbasses who don't read and have their head stuck so far up their ass they can't breath. The amount of stupidity behind the response of the XOne is hilarious. I mean really, it's like people don't listen. It's like the guy who interrupted Obama in a state of the union speech was like "You Lie!'.Brean24

Okay???

When it comes to consoles, the X1 is like a celebrity that you're going to hear everything about, good or bad. Meanwhile the ps4 is that average joe that no one cares about.Karnage108

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]":cry: b....bu....bu....but teh mainstream will love it because M$ has teh moniez" I knew this would happen. No company is immune from harsh criticism by the press if enough people out there are angry.Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]":cry: b....bu....bu....but teh mainstream will love it because M$ has teh moniez" I knew this would happen. No company is immune from harsh criticism by the press if enough people out there are angry.Douevenlift_bro

cool

They deserve it. Whether any of this stuff is true or not, they handled this reveal like a bunch of dumb ass amateurs.

Good. 

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

They have E3 to packpedal or to fully commit to these draconian anti consumer policies.

Ninja-Hippo

I think they've made some poor decisions regarding the global market, particularly emerging markets where internet availability makes the Xbone more or less irrelevant, but I really struggle to see anything on that list of proposals which either doesn't exist already or isn't clearly and obviously inevitable in the near future.

Sony are making a gamers machine, and I think they will be applauded for that by gamers. Like a lot of Sony electronics though, I think it'll ultimately be a bad decision. No matter how beloved their next platform may be by gamers, the days of the traditional games console and the traditional game itself are numbered. There will most certainly be a Playstation 5 in a few years time. I cant see Microsoft making a new box ever again.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

They have E3 to packpedal or to fully commit to these draconian anti consumer policies.

XboxStache

I think they've made some poor decisions regarding the global market, particularly emerging markets where internet availability makes the Xbone more or less irrelevant, but I really struggle to see anything on that list of proposals which either doesn't exist already or isn't clearly and obviously inevitable in the near future.

Sony are making a gamers machine, and I think they will be applauded for that by gamers. Like a lot of Sony electronics though, I think it'll ultimately be a bad decision. No matter how beloved their next platform may be by gamers, the days of the traditional games console and the traditional game itself are numbered. There will most certainly be a Playstation 5 in a few years time. I cant see Microsoft making a new box ever again.

what is funny to me is that regular consumers  won't remember this was all negative stories.

all they will rem this fall is xbox xbox xbox.

sorry but that is just human nature.

toyota sales increased during the middle of a huge recall in which the cars accelerated uncontrollably and were plowing into things.

why?

because they got free commercials on the news every night.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-01/toyota-s-u-s-sales-surge-42-unhurt-by-recalls-nissan-hyundai-climb.html

life is funny.  ;)

Riverwolf007

Toyotas will not stop working if you don't connect them to the internet every 24 hours,and you can sell your toyota to who ever you want...

When sites like Forbes that were kissing M$' ass before this news are bashing this console you know its in trouble.

[QUOTE="legalize82"] all this time u puntill now i coul resell my games etc... so dont compare it with somethin 20 years old.. and isf sony doing the same crap i quit.. so be it 2nd here in europe the law is ro consumer if i bu a game ita MINE i can fo with it what i want.. If i wanna shit on a game i shit on itNinja-Hippo

In EU you have the right to sell even PC games..:lol:

So i could see MS getting in trouble in EU for the xbox one.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]Good to know some of the biggest gaming sites are dragging the X1 :cool:TigerSuperman

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]Good to know some of the biggest gaming sites are dragging the X1 :cool:TigerSuperman

Everthing was confirmed..:lol:

[QUOTE="XboxStache"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] It's the exact same setup as Steam. I sympathise with the traditional box-and-disc collectors, but nostalgia is not a decent reason to hold back on moving forwards. Digital delivery isn't where the industry is going, it's where the industry already is. Entertainment isn't something you purchase as own any more, it's a service which is delivered. iTunes has been like this for years. Amazon has the exact same setup with Kindle. Steam, if not the whole PC gaming market, has existed in this manner for over a decade.

 

I think they've made some poor decisions regarding the global market, particularly emerging markets where internet availability makes the Xbone more or less irrelevant, but I really struggle to see anything on that list of proposals which either doesn't exist already or isn't clearly and obviously inevitable in the near future.

 

Sony are making a gamers machine, and I think they will be applauded for that by gamers. Like a lot of Sony electronics though, I think it'll ultimately be a bad decision. No matter how beloved their next platform may be by gamers, the days of the traditional games console and the traditional game itself are numbered. There will most certainly be a Playstation 5 in a few years time. I cant see Microsoft making a new box ever again.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Apple. iPad. Enough said.Ninja-Hippo

Comprende?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]Totally. different. Enough said.

Douevenlift_bro

Comprende?

what is funny to me is that regular consumers  won't remember this was all negative stories.

all they will rem this fall is xbox xbox xbox.

sorry but that is just human nature.

toyota sales increased during the middle of a huge recall in which the cars accelerated uncontrollably and were plowing into things.

why?

because they got free commercials on the news every night.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-01/toyota-s-u-s-sales-surge-42-unhurt-by-recalls-nissan-hyundai-climb.html

life is funny.  ;)

Riverwolf007

E3 is gonna be so much fun this year

*Thanks to GAF for the list*dream431ca

Microsoft have made a machine not aimed to appease gamers at all from the looks of things, but I have no doubt it will probably be a successful and popular machine because it's more in-tune with the future and what the broader population wants. The always-on, always-connected, cloud-based, all your games stored online, instant-gratification kind of setup is rejected from traditional gamers but exactly what people have wanted and bought into with every other entertainment industry. Look at iTunes, Netflix, Kindle. Microsoft want the xbox to be the gaming equivalent of those services. An entertainment service provider moreso than a platform holder.Ninja-Hippo

and as a gamer, you're happy for that because/????? 

As a gamer, this is the reason that I'll be voting with my wallet, buying a PS4 next gen.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]and they should be. almost everything about their new console sounds awful. crimsonman1245

Microsoft deserves it.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="legalize82"] all this time u puntill now i coul resell my games etc... so dont compare it with somethin 20 years old.. and isf sony doing the same crap i quit.. so be it 2nd here in europe the law is ro consumer if i bu a game ita MINE i can fo with it what i want.. If i wanna shit on a game i shit on ittormentos

In EU you have the right to sell even PC games..:lol:

So i could see MS getting in trouble in EU for the xbox one.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Microsoft have made a machine not aimed to appease gamers at all from the looks of things, but I have no doubt it will probably be a successful and popular machine because it's more in-tune with the future and what the broader population wants. The always-on, always-connected, cloud-based, all your games stored online, instant-gratification kind of setup is rejected from traditional gamers but exactly what people have wanted and bought into with every other entertainment industry. Look at iTunes, Netflix, Kindle. Microsoft want the xbox to be the gaming equivalent of those services. An entertainment service provider moreso than a platform holder.IshmaelSonata

and as a gamer, you're happy for that because/????? 

As a gamer, this is the reason that I'll be voting with my wallet, buying a PS4 next gen.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]Totally. different. Enough said.

Douevenlift_bro

Comprende?

And it's totally deserved. Some MS decisions for X1 are so stupid, they are hard to believe!